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How a Kickstarter Project Can Massively Exceed Its Funding Goals and Still Fail

An anonymous reader writes: In November, 2013, a Kickstarter project for a software-defined camera trigger scored £290,386 (~$450,000) in funding after asking for a mere £50,000. After almost a year of delays, they've now announced the project is dead. Their CEO has published a lengthy article about how such a successful funding round can still turn into a failed product. In short: budgeting. To get their software into a workable state, they ended up spending 940% of the amount they'd originally allocated to software development. Their protoyping went over budget, too, and they had to spend a fair bit in legal fees to fend off a major camera manufacturer complaining about their product's name.

Still, they had more funding than they expected, and would have been able to deal with these costs. Unfortunately, the bill of materials for their final product clocked in way higher than they expected. They would have had to sell the device at about $350 each, when they were originally targeting a $99 price point. (And that figure assumes good sales — with a smaller production run, price per unit goes even higher.) The company is now going to refund the remaining money left over from its Kickstarter campaign — about 20% of the total. They're also open sourcing the software and sharing the PCB designs and schematics.

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  1. New News: Product Design is Hard! by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you think it's going to be easy to put together a real techy product with software and circuits and PCBs and enclosures and EM certification and patent minefields and manufacturing and packaging and distributors and competition, you might want to examine why you think that.

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  2. Many successful projects went bankrupt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...and are still delivering value. The Suez canal is a prime example, but if you do some research, you will come up with others.

    The most important thing is that the achievements not be thrown away, and in software, there's a very nice way of doing it (no: it's not "some Intellectual Property Vulture feeds on the remnants"). So kudos for releasing the software and the hardware blueprints.

    So yay for the visionaries of triggertrap (those who worked hard at it and those who risked their money). May you survive the crash and be richer after that. May the explosion disperse seeds far and wide for new things to grow.

  3. Re: Morale of the Story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, people should never ever try something never done before!!!

    Or, maybe⦠you know⦠crowfund it just because traditional investors are too scared to do new things; but add a disclaimer about it not being a traditional buy but comes with some risks. You know, just like it's being done on sites like Kickstarter!

  4. In the end they were fair by aepervius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Rather than spend all the money, 20% will be refunded. And a software source and PCB will be offered. It is a failed kickstarter, but not as bad as those which went home with the money breaking all promised delivery. Like moulyneux and godus for example.

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  5. The real morale of the story by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Informative

    Morale: gloomy

    But!

    That doesn't mean you should never contribute to hardware kick starters. It's a good idea to carefully examine what they have done before to see if they can handle making the new thing...

    But!

    Sometimes, it's just plain good to kickstart something even if it looks unlikely they will reach the goal. I would argue that is what happened in this case, because they found out a LOT about making this thing a lot of people want, and are sharing what they found. Eventually the thing people really wanted may well get made. If I had contributed to this Kickstarter (I did not) I wouldn't be mad, just a bit sad it didn't go through.

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    1. Re:The real morale of the story by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I've signed up for a few hardware kickstarters and they've worked out fine. Maybe because I've had 30 years of product design and I can spot the naive ones a mile off. Generally, if it involves wireless interfaces or software that requires and operating system, avoid - the risks are significant.

      The reflowster toaster oven reflow soldering controller is a classic. Simple, useful and you know you could do it yourself if you weren't so lazy. You're paying them to be less lazy that you.

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  6. Re:Insurance by lindseyp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The rewards offered on kickstarter are pitiful given the risk to the capital, and complete lack of upside if the product is successful.

    Just look at Oculus Rift. Sure the backers got "goodies" such as, ooh... prototype oculus rifts, but did they get any of the $2b Facebook bought the company for? No! If Kickstarter were a real investment platform backers should benefit from the success of the company just as easily as they can lose their money when it fails.

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  7. Re:Insurance by Boronx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not an investment platform, it's a begging platform with door prizes. Investors get ownership for their money and can demand accountability *during* the life of the project.

  8. Re:Insurance by St.Creed · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, kickstarter is not allowed to give out equity under US law *yet*, but that may change soon. ANd if they want to stay relevant, they should, because the kickstarter model is starting to show cracks.

    A company called Symbid (symbid.nl) has been doing this for quite some time now because they're not in the US and under Dutch law they can already do this. You can invest small sums of money (20 euro and upwards) and in exchange you get equity. That sounds simpler than it is, but it seems to be working for them. They take over all the hassle of the process of issuing shares, the lawyer part of it etc. and make things cheap and easy enough to work for small sums.

    If I ever invest money, it will be through something similar. But not through kickstarter. Kickstarter is where you give donations. Investors go elsewhere.

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  9. Re: Morale of the Story by geogob · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, because no one ever tried to produce a watch that does more than tell the time before pebble. [/sarcasm]

    I do not fully agree with AC and I find he is definitely going too far. But he also speaks some truth. If it seems too good to be true, it often also is too good to be true. The problem is that for most people, the concept of risk in design is quite abstract. As an engineer, I can weight the risks not only because I know how to do that and have experience doing it, but also because I understand the technologies and problems linked with project management. So when I support a KS project, I have an idea what the risk level is and how good my investment is placed.

    Now, most people cannot do this for one reason or another and their decision to invest is solely based on enthusiasms, thrust and first impression. It may be deeply driven by technological ignorance. The person have a high risk of being disappointed because they have implicit expectations of success for a project which may actually have very little chance of succeeding. This is exacerbated by the fact that project closer to the leading edge (or even to the "bleeding edge"), are those who stir the most enthusiasms and interest, even though they are also the projects with the highest risk. This is a dangerous combination when money is in play, as the investors are not fully aware or informed of the risks.

    Investing only is safe and low-risk projects as the AC proposes is a solution, but it's not the best promote incubation of new ideas. But maybe better inform KS users of the risks maybe a good idea. Maybe a open risk assessment could be a solution (a bit like an open peer review of KS projects). The potential investors would then be informed of the potential risk associated with backing a project before they do so. Maybe a project with high risk hoping for 500k funding won't get 2 million USD funding anymore, but that maybe for the best as experience showed.

  10. Re: Morale of the Story by clickety6 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Venture Capatalists expect to see a profit on their investment. On Kickstarter, you might get something slightly earlier at a reduced price. It's not an investment. It's more like group patronage.

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  11. Re: Morale of the Story by whoever57 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or, maybeæ you knowæ crowfund it just because traditional investors are too scared to do new things

    Stop right there. People don't "invest" on kickstarter. They have no ownership interest in the business. The people who fund in kickstarter take all the risk, while having no possible upside beyond the products that they buy.

    I could make a political point about how kickstarter and its kin are a response to laws that limit risky investments by all except the wealthy and the effect of "the closure" in Venice in the 14th centuary.

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