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Demand For Linux Skills Rising This Year

Nerval's Lobster writes This year is shaping up as a really good one for Linux, at least on the jobs front. According to a new report (PDF) from The Linux Foundation and Dice, nearly all surveyed hiring managers want to recruit Linux professionals within the next six months, with 44 percent of them indicating they're more likely to hire a candidate with Linux certification over one who does not. Forty-two percent of hiring managers say that experience in OpenStack and CloudStack will have a major impact on their hiring decisions, while 23 percent report security is a sought-after area of expertise and 19 percent are looking for Linux-skilled people with Software-Defined Networking skills. Ninety-seven percent of hiring managers report they will bring on Linux talent relative to other skills areas in the next six months.

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  1. It's happening!! by bhcompy · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Year of Linux is finally here!

    1. Re:It's happening!! by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 2

      On the desktop?

    2. Re:It's happening!! by NotInHere · · Score: 2

      No, the year of the linux skill demand!

    3. Re:It's happening!! by arth1 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Linux certification, not Linux skill.
      The two may have a correlation larger than zero, but not much larger.

    4. Re:It's happening!! by Kjella · · Score: 1

      I see you're a bit late to the party but I can inform you that here on /. it's been the year of Linux for some time already.

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  2. Nice Dice spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So when will this dying site finally shut down for good?

    1. Re:Nice Dice spam by ganiman · · Score: 2, Informative

      Dying site? I found my last two jobs on Dice, both which turned out to be really great. I have always found Dice to be an excellent job resource site for IT professionals. Maybe the jobs you applied for through Dice didn't hire you :P

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    2. Re:Nice Dice spam by Duhavid · · Score: 1

      The garbage disposer shows a reference to the item...

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  3. More of the same ... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yet another report that doesn't give hard numbers either in the summary or the article. And of course, the pdf is walled behind a "give us your information and we'll let you download it" page.

    The criteria are pretty slack - as long as a company is thinking about hiring one linux worker, that's counted as a win. No saying if it's because they've consolidated several previous linux positions into one future job, or how many non-linux workers are being hired, to put the numbers into perspective.

    Notably missing was the "how many linux workers have/will you lay off" question, even though we know this is happening thanks to off-shoring, etc/

    I doubt we will ever have an unbiased set of numbers to work with - that would require someone who doesn't have a vested interest in the outcome.

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    1. Re:More of the same ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I shy away from hiring people who highlight Linux experience as part of their skillset. My experience with them is that they are constantly trying to rework things that are already functional using OSS tools that are poorly documented and supported and when they leave to chase the next shiny job no one is quite sure what the hell they did. Knowledge of standard commercial tools that we already use is the most important thing.

    2. Re:More of the same ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This is 90% of the reason we use Microsoft products. Everything is C#/.Net, IIS, & SQL Server. We never deal with whatever the FOTM software package the community is pushing. Although I do miss people telling me that they need a Hadoop cluster for their 60GB datasets.

    3. Re:More of the same ... by Creepy · · Score: 1

      Even worse would be linking to GPL libraries before they leave and then telling the Gnu foundation about it just to screw your former company and deny responsibility because you wiped all systems logs after hacking root. I would never do such a thing, personally, but I do know how to think evil :)

    4. Re:More of the same ... by Anon-Admin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That was worth the laugh!

      Your windows delusion is grand for an anonymous coward! Having spent the better part of 20 years working as a Linux professional I can tell you that all the fortune 500 and above companies have, use, and enjoy Linux. It is well supported, COTS apps are all over the place, and the OSS tools are well documented within the companies where they are used. They are far better documented than the custom internally developed apps for windows that every company has.

      Windows has it's place in business just a Linux does. No one OS can do it all perfectly and any manager/person who claims that all your problems can be solved by switching to (Linux/Windows/Mac/Solairs/HP-UX/AIX) should be fired on the spot!

    5. Re:More of the same ... by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

      Many HR people also think VMWARE=LINUX=CLOUD. OpenStack etc shows cheaper implementations of virtualization, and the requirement of virtual networking shows too. To me, M$ dropped the ball with their HyperVisor, it's just not getting the traction like VMWare/RHEL. At my job I can see thousands of virtual servers for MANY companies, even the WIN boxes are run virtualized on RHEL on Intel and Sun boxes. There's another giant failing of M$, not having an OS that can "bridge" the transition away from big Sun boxes...well, more of a triumph of Open Source to be able to quickly adapt to the ecosystem and fill niches. This niche has really boomed "behind the scenes".

      From the runbooks I've read, ESX is being used to "move" from old hardware, seeing there are many 2000/2008 servers running. Virtualize it, keep the old hardware as a backup for awhile, then trash it. Copy it again for testing for an OS upgrade...it's beautiful LOL.

    6. Re:More of the same ... by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

      LOL "well documented" indeed. I work at HP, and it's over-documented sometimes to the extreme. Our clients demand ITIL level documentation on everything, we have two different SharePoint pages because of all the documentation. We also have vast amounts of Linux on the backend, I daresay you can't make an airline reservation without using RHEL somewhere in the back. It's all used with VMWare, massive virtualization, etc. So are these job descriptions...especially with the CloudStack requirements it looks like all these companies are hiring virtualized cloud engineers. Win for Linux, with solid software and hardware, including Sun support (which is a big deal at the moment). M$'s HyperVisor / Azure just doesn't cut it for needing to do MILLIONS of transactions per second with mainframes LOL.

    7. Re:More of the same ... by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 2

      N machines where N > 2.

      As long as N > 2, the problem is unchanged for any value of N.

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    8. Re:More of the same ... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Sure, but those VMs don't exactly create a ton of job opportunities (which is why they're so popular - you don't need a huge staff to run a server farm of VMs). Companies go to VMs in "the cloud" because it's cheaper - fewer people on the payroll. So, they lay off most of their linux workers and hire one VM specialist. Sounds like many linux jobs are in danger.

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    9. Re:More of the same ... by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 1

      Don't hold your breath. I lost a 800K account years ago after one of their "upgrades"; seems they couldn't be bothered to parse a nick with a "special" character in it - the complete lack of give-a-fuck on their part was breathtaking. Hence my current nick.

    10. Re:More of the same ... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, it allows them to be a lot more casual about throwing up far more servers than they normally would, so it tends to balance out.

      Not really.

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    11. Re:More of the same ... by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      Sure, but those VMs don't exactly create a ton of job opportunities (which is why they're so popular - you don't need a huge staff to run a server farm of VMs). Companies go to VMs in "the cloud" because it's cheaper - fewer people on the payroll. So, they lay off most of their linux workers and hire one VM specialist. Sounds like many linux jobs are in danger.

      Whilst it is a perception that I can agree with my experiences are that the underlying issues created by using VM infrastructure is that it creates new classes of issues that frustrate organizations from utilizing the VM infrastructure that they get. Few people understand these issues until they come up to configuring CPU and IO schedulers in virtual environments.

      It may be easy to build a VM but you have to configure it differently or it has an effect on other VMs that you didn't intend - some of those failure modes are difficult to detect and replicate (and the results are sometimes as amusing as they are annoying).

      That said, Openstack and Xen are two really interesting technologies.

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    12. Re:More of the same ... by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Again, this has nothing to do with increasing the number of linux jobs - to the contrary, it decreases the number, which gets back to my original point - the "study" is extremely badly done, its conclusions are bogus, and it's just another example of the linux foundation's false boosterism.

      For a long time, linux and open source in general was FUN as well as useful. Now the wanna-be suits/overlords have pretty much ruined it by trying to intermediate themselves into the process for their own personal benefit. Whether it's the mozilla foundation, shuttleworth, fsf, whatever ... their credibility level keeps plumbing new nadirs. Too bad there's neither a way to turn back the clock nor to fix it.

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  4. 100% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    100% are looking for a H1-B that they can pay as little as possible while holding a green card like it's the sword of damocles over their head.

  5. What is a Linux Skill? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I am not sure how you quantify a Linux skill? What does knowing your way around Linux even mean? Is knowing your way around Linux quantifiable by doing some odd configuration with hardware, ie disabling TCP offload for troublesome NICs? Or is it simply setting up services for others to use?

    Most people can do this stuff. Kernel development however ...

  6. weird numbers on certs by Trepidity · · Score: 2

    I can see companies caring about Linux expertise; after all, the vast majority of servers run Linux, so if you're hiring for someone doing devops you probably want them to know their way around Linux. But 44% prefer people with "Linux certification"? I know some companies care about stuff like RHEL certifications, but I didn't think it was that many.

    1. Re:weird numbers on certs by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      ... the vast majority of servers run Linux, ...

      Um... "vast majority"? Citation please.

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    2. Re:weird numbers on certs by Trepidity · · Score: 1

      Well, the majority of web-facing servers anyway. According to Netcraft, about 30% of servers run Windows/IIS, and just about all the rest run either Apache/Linux or nginx/Linux (plus a few running *BSD, of course).

    3. Re:weird numbers on certs by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

      That stat is also counting a vast amount of virtualized servers that used to be stand-alone that technically run BOTH Windows and Linux. They are Windows servers running on top of ESX, Red Hat's name for VMWare's virtual OS. The actual hardware can be Intel, AMD, PowerPC (older Sun boxes)...anything Linux can run on which is why it's made such inroads into the market in a "backdoor" way. Your old hardware is failing, virtualize it. Now your running Linux too! Unless you use HyperVisor...but M$ doesn't scale well to a data center level no matter what "Datacenter Edition" 2012 claims HAHAHA.

    4. Re:weird numbers on certs by Trepidity · · Score: 1

      Yeah I can see Linux being important, I just didn't think companies put much stock in the certifications themselves, vs. work experience or interviews or other such screening methods. There was a period in the '90s when certs were a big deal, Microsoft's MSCE and Certified Novell Administrator and Cisco's CCNA and whatever, but in the 2000s the certs started being more ignored, at least in my experience, b/c they weren't that reliable a demonstration that the employee was actually any good. Maybe they're back, or the RHEL ones are taken more seriously?

    5. Re:weird numbers on certs by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      Agreed, but rather than M$ systems, I was thinking other Unix systems, and not necessarily Internet facing. I've worked several places, admittedly a while ago, that still rely on big-iron systems running Solaris, HP-UX, etc... That kind of hardware can have advantages over a lot of hardware usually used to run Linux (VMs or bare-metal), but you also pay for it.

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    6. Re:weird numbers on certs by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      According to Netcraft, about 30% of servers run Windows/IIS...

      ...and those servers serve only 11% of active (not parked) web sites, implying that the average Linux server handles roughly - um - 3.5 times as many active sites as the average Windows server. No wonder there is a brand preference.

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    7. Re:weird numbers on certs by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

      I think their looking for RHCVA's and such, because those people can do official "warranty" or "support" work, have access to RH's support system, etc. As to the quality of employees with them, well...lol

  7. Perhaps a more interesting metric would be... by WoodstockJeff · · Score: 1

    ... to ask these same managers how their hiring goals of 2014 were met during 2014. That is, if they planned on hiring someone with skill X within 6 months, did they hire someone with skill X? Did they actively LOOK for someone with skill X? Or was it, "If someone with skill X comes in, they get 2 extra Brownie Points"?

    It's all well and good to say you plan on hiring certain skill sets in a given period, but if you haven't been fulfilling your goals in the past, what does that bode for the future?

    1. Re:Perhaps a more interesting metric would be... by bangular · · Score: 2

      From Simpsons Poochie episode
      "So you want a realistic, down-to-earth show that’s completely off the wall and swarming with magic robots?"

      My experience with most companies is that what they say and do are two completely different things. Of course they're going to ask for all skills ever possible, but they aren't willing to pay for the skills they claim to want. The question I always see is "are critical thinking skills important to you?" Of course every business is going to claim they want critical thinking skills. But in reality, most won't pay the premium those skills cost, nor do they want those skills to question stupid business practices.

      Again, how they respond to these stupid surveys and what they do in practice are two different things.

  8. Percentages means bad statitics. by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    For the most part, because the US is leaving a recession, that means there are more people hiring.
    Having Linux on your resume has never been a bad thing to have. Even if you are working in a Microsoft Shop, the chances are there will be the odd Linux system for some particular application. And hiring people with more skills then less is normally a good thing.

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    1. Re:Percentages means bad statitics. by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

      these job descriptions are Cloud Engineers really. Even an MS shop can't deny the lack of MS in the Cloud, Azure is new and shaky compared to Red Hat's ESX. Capturing VMWare and Novel is proving to be a boon for everyone involved, it's a serious force inside the data center.

  9. Wait...which one do you want? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2

    >> want to recruit Linux professionals...likely to hire a candidate with Linux certification

    Wait...which one do you want? Professionals or certified neophytes?

    1. Re:Wait...which one do you want? by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They want RHEL certifications that deal with the Cloud, specifically. These certs enable better support from RH, streamlined patching, etc. Like Cisco "engineers" have TAC access, and that is a major point to the cert. At my job we submit crash / debug reports to Red Hat support all the time; eventually they come back with some patches or a work-around. HR isn't looking for some basement dweller running Slackware on a 386; these are people who can virtualize existing systems, integrate Cloud redundancies, and work with established API's for meshing. Virtual networking is pretty new too. My company (HP) has a VAST amount of virtualized WINTEL on ESX...literally thousands of servers for hundreds of companies, at multiple data centers. Tying all of this together and keeping it all working is quite complicated LOL.

    2. Re:Wait...which one do you want? by goarilla · · Score: 1

      HR isn't looking for some basement dweller running Slackware on a 386

      Heej ! I feel personally offended by this. Although I'm in the attic running Slackware 14.1 multilib on a AMD FX8350.

    3. Re:Wait...which one do you want? by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

      LOL honestly your probably over-qualified for the jobs! I know I am at my job, but it's great getting paid to watch netflix all night...nice CPU, btw

  10. Just Maybe by sycodon · · Score: 3, Funny

    When the retards in H.R. post a job opening requiring ten years experience in something, it will actually be possible to meet the requirements.

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    1. Re:Just Maybe by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      Nah... They'll probably want 10 years of Linux On The Desktop....

  11. The report methodology seems biased by devforhire · · Score: 1
    From the Dice article: (at the bottom under methodology of the study)

    Respondents needed to have hired at least one Linux professional in the last year, or have plans to hire Linux professionals in 2015 to participate in the survey, and they were allowed to check as many responses to questions as appropriate.

    So they only surveyed people that hired a Linux professional last year or plan to hire one this year to determine if the need for Linux talent was on the rise?

  12. Slashdice are you fucking joking? by Graymalkin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh man sweet an unbiased report about the importance of Linux certifications! From a job board and a organization selling Linux certifications no less. I bet this report is totally legit and has hard numbers to back up all of the claims. I'm probably not going to be disappointing from some obvious slashvertisement.

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  13. INSERT INTO slashdot VALUES strawman .. by lippydude · · Score: 1

    @BarbaraHudson: 'Yet another report that doesn't give hard numbers either in the summary or the article. And of course, the pdf is walled behind a "give us your information and we'll let you download it" page.'

    If you haven't downloaded it, how do you know it doesn't gave any hard numbers. Besides, you can fill in any ole name and download it.

    Key findings from the 2015 Linux Jobs Survey and Report show that:

    "The 2015 Linux Jobs Report reveals and analyzes the responses from more than 1,000 hiring managers at corporations, small and medium businesses (SMBs), government organizations, and staffing agencies across the globeâ"as well as responses from more than 3,400 Linux professionals worldwide."

    @BarbaraHudson: "I doubt we will ever have an unbiased set of numbers to work with - that would require someone who doesn't have a vested interest in the outcome."

    Yes - of course - you're absolutely right - the Linux foundation obviously have a hidden agenda here ..

    1. Re:INSERT INTO slashdot VALUES strawman .. by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      And yet your quote STILL doesn't give hard numbers. How many new linux jobs vs how many lost linux jobs (those "cloud" deployments are cheaper for a reason - employers can cut salaries). Also, the survey was self-selected. One that picks a uniform distribution across all employers, or, say, the top 1000, giving the hire/fire ratios, would be more accurate than this PoS "survey".

      Think of it - business has 10 linux employees. They will lay off all 10 this year because they're going to hire one new linux employee to move their stuff to VMs in "the cloud." That counts as linux employment going up? Bull. Crap.

      Yes, the linux foundation has a hidden agenda - to keep doing busywork like this so they can justify their jobs. Duh. Otherwise, they would use a proper, open, and repeatable methodology, instead of surveys with huge omissions in the questions that give a distorted view of what's happening.

      I used to be a big defender of all things linux. Not any more. "Studies" that are borderline lies is only part of it.

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  14. Re:excuse to hire cheap labor by geekmux · · Score: 2

    Cheap H1B labor is typically 'certified', so they can use that to disqualify actual talent (who often doesnt have the time or interest in the certification process).

    If the company priority is controlling cost, then that will likely be your end result.

    I won't argue with that mentality. I will simply gently remind them that you get what you pay for.

  15. Hay H1B Applicants! by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

    Time to dump Mac and Windose manuals and download a Linux copy today! American jobs are waiting for you!

  16. Re:I can answer that. by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    If you can compose, out of your head, in under five minutes, a find -prune command that executes a gawk script that selectively runs bash commands, and successfully run that script against a 10 million node filesystem on a heavily loaded mission critical box, and nothing breaks, you are linux skilled.

    Yeah, funny thing is I had to do that not so long ago but filling in the change request takes a whole lot longer!

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