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Man Claiming Half Ownership of Facebook Is Now a Fugitive

alphadogg writes Paul D. Ceglia, who was arrested in 2012 for defrauding Facebook on the claim that he owns half the company, is now a fugitive. Ceglia cut off his electronic monitoring bracelet some time around last Friday and left home in violation of the conditions of his bail, court papers said. Ceglia claimed in a 2010 lawsuit that he was entitled to half ownership of Facebook under a 2003 contract with Mark Zuckerberg, who had done programming work for Ceglia's StreetFax.com.

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  1. Like many former facebook users.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe he just had enough of being monitored all the time?

    1. Re:Like many former facebook users.. by penguinoid · · Score: 2

      No, what would be funny is if he had been charged for espionage, privacy violations, or something along those lines.

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    2. Re:Like many former facebook users.. by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Funny

      It was probably that 43,278,965th Candy Crush friend request that did it to him.

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    3. Re:Like many former facebook users.. by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Funny

      He'll be caught soon . . . when he logs on to Facebook to brag about being a fugitive, the cops will know where he is . . .

      . . . with Facebook providing free info to the cops!

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    4. Re: Like many former facebook users.. by ruir · · Score: 2

      Were you born so dense, or was it the TV that did that to you? Could you read that tagline up your comment? Are you able to recognise dark humor and sarcasm? Do you have social skills?

    5. Re: Like many former facebook users.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Would if he fled years ago and the person wearing the bracelet was his 90 year old grandma who just passed away and her jewlery and the bracelet were removed at the morgue? Meanwhile Paul is staying in a trailer near mark Zuckerberg's house watching him eat his bagel every morning. Then Mark notices him and they talk it out over more bagels. Then they go shopping for the new iPhone watch. Paul pays for both because he was always the gentleman-type.

  2. Poor Mr. Ceglia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    He should have known: There's far too much money on the table for justice to be allowed. Did he really think he was going to take billions of dollars of value away from the people who quite literally run the world?

    1. Re:Poor Mr. Ceglia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Somebody has allowed "them" to rule the world. They aren't really smart, actually most of them are pretty stupid, they are just very good at lobbying, they've been doing it for 2000 years. Americans let "them" in after WWII. Now have fun living in a country whose financial, media, and internet industries are controlled by "them".

    2. Re:Poor Mr. Ceglia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm afraid you don't know how the capitalistic system works. If you own half of the common shares of a company, you have a 50% voting power at the shareholders meeting and the right to get half of the dividends, whether you also work for it or not. Not that I consider it fair, but that's how it works.

      I don't know whether Ceglia's claim is legit or not, however it should be noted that no other company has ever had so many ownership claims as facebook in the last few years. It seems that several businessmen had to do with zuckerberg and claim they were fraud victims. Are they really all liars? I don't know, but honestly I think would never do business with mark zuckerberg.

  3. Re:So did he write facebook or not? by TWX · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I worked for a boss once that would attempt to claim anything and everything that an employee did that was in any way possibly related to the field that the business was in could be his property as a work-for-hire, even when his employees were hourly so there couldn't even be a claim that any work in the field of computers could be applicable to a salaried staff member.

    I do not know the man in question, but I imagine that it is not impossible that his claim against Zuckerberg was something along this line. I don't say this out of any appreciation for Facebook either, for what it's worth.

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  4. Re:Is he dangerous? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The US's private prison system is stuffed to the gills with drug criminals and violent felons, so someone who does a crime that:

    A: Is not drug related.
    B: Is not weapons/firearms related.
    C: Is not violent.
    D: Doesn't fall under some "terrorism" catch-all

    will likely see house arrest, or just be out on bail. In fact, people who do white collar crimes are almost celebrities in the US. White collar crimes are almost never enforced unless there is a major collapse of a market... then someone gets scapegoated.

  5. Re:So did he write facebook or not? by jandrese · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, the claim was that he loaned Zuckerberg $1000 in exchange for half of the company, and that both of them forgot about this until he stumbled across the contract while doing a little housecleaning or something. It should be noted that this guy has a history of contract fraud and forgery.

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  6. Re:Is he dangerous? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    cite please? I know many douchebags who are not white... heck Kanye West is perhaps one of the biggest entitled douchebags around...

  7. nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Apparently he didn't fully pay Zuck for the StreetFax.com project. Zuck threated to sue, so he sent a scan of the StreetFax.com contract to his lawyer. Later after Cegilia sued Zuck, the courts got a hold of that contract and noticed it wasn't the same as the one saying Cegilia owned "the facebook".

  8. Re:Is he dangerous? by Ichijo · · Score: 2

    Because the main purpose of justice in the USA is revenge, which legal types call "retribution." If the main purpose of justice was to protect the public, drunk drivers would lose their licenses instead of being thrown in prison (prison should be reserved for those who drive without a license), and they wouldn't automatically get their licenses back (or become eligible to be re-licensed) after serving their time. Instead, they would be required to pass a medical-psychological assessment as in Germany.

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  9. Re:So did he write facebook or not? by tompaulco · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wouldn't doubt that Zuckerberg did promise him some share in the company. This is a standard business practice. Executives will promise shares of the company to the developers, who then toil day and night in hopes of a payoff. The executives are very careful never to put this in writing, and every time you ask about it, they never can seem to get around to putting it in writing, but their word is golden. Then, when the company finally starts to make money, they conveniently forget about all of their promises. In fact, I recently got terminated from one such place because they finally started to make money and could no longer dance around the fact that they hadn't given me the shares in the company that they had been promising for the previous 9 years.

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  10. Re: Is he dangerous? by Redmancometh · · Score: 2

    They just get drunk and stop caring about not having a license. Then drive drunk again.

  11. Re:So did he write facebook or not? by ckatko · · Score: 4, Funny

    But... but... we're supposed to hate Zuckerberg! Next thing you'll tell me Bill Gates was a programmer!

    ... crap.

  12. Re:Is he dangerous? by Existential+Wombat · · Score: 3, Informative

    Why the heck did he have a tracking bracelet to begin with? He was convicted of being a fraudster and financial criminal, but was he convicted of violent crimes? Do they really give tracking bracelets to non-violent criminals in the USA?
    That's truly fucked up if so.

    I'm not even convinced that the guy is guilty of anything other than pissing off a rich, white, entitled douchebag.

    Ask Martha Stewart...

  13. Re:Is he dangerous? by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 2

    Because as part of his punishment, he has to obey certain terms and conditions. The monitoring bracelet allows police to ensure he's abiding by some of those terms and conditions.

    Only it did not ensure that at all. He cut it off.

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  14. Re:Is he dangerous? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

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  15. Re:Is he dangerous? by Dereck1701 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Bail is supposed to be a fee that you pay"

    Not quite. Its supposed to be a guarantee that you'll show up for your court case, and if you don't you either lose a significant chunk of change far in excess of your crime or you have a bail bondsman with a very good reason to hunt you down. The problem is that bail has been corrupted beyond all reason, people who would have no cause (minor crimes, roots in the community, etc) to flee are held under tens of thousands of dollar bail. People with minor DUI crimes will sometimes have bail in excess of $100K. Its become more of a pre-punishment then a guarantee that you'll return to court, if you have the money you're effectively paying hundreds to thousands of dollars (in lost interest, both investment and inflation) if you don't you're paying a bail bondsman ~10% on your bond. And with court cases dragging on more and more each year (its not uncommon for trial to take 2 years) people are paying more and more.

  16. Re:Is he dangerous? by Xenkar · · Score: 2

    Obviously by giving the jewish interviewer the secret jewish handshake. You'll need to ask your parents or rabbi about it since they forgot to teach you about it.

  17. Re:OMG your right! by ihtoit · · Score: 2

    there are three companies running 14 prisons in the UK. Yes, I said companies. Her Majesty's Prison Service runs places like The Maze, still, which houses the most violent prisoners, but for just about all the "low risk", they're in Hotel Sodexo (which is really more of a Gulag, ask Melanie Shaw if you can get a visit - they're not letting ANYONE in to see her at the moment, not even a legal adviser or a family member), Group 3 (one got away - old joke, now better known as G4S, a throwback acronym to one of their previous names - Group 4 Securicor - they do most of the prisoner transport to and from court as well, and they're particularly famous for not only fucking up the security for the Olympics in 2012 and trying to fuck off with the money paid to them to run the security, they got their no-bid contract to run the prisons and transport renewed!), Serco (who do a lot of police desk work and probation as well as manage a few of the Category C (low risk) prisons).

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  18. Re: Is he dangerous? by BlueTrin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That seems an awful system. You mean that even if you are innocent you will end up losing the interest on the bail ? That probably lead to all kind of bullying from the police and law officers.

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  19. Re:So did he write facebook or not? by penguinoid · · Score: 2

    In fact, I recently got terminated from one such place because they finally started to make money and could no longer dance around the fact that they hadn't given me the shares in the company that they had been promising for the previous 9 years.

    Would you like to work for my company? We can't pay too much right now, but you'll get shares in the company, work hard and we'll make your rich beyond your wildest dreams.

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  20. Re: Is he dangerous? by BevanFindlay · · Score: 2

    I'm just going to leave this here:

    "The Christ myth theory is the proposition that Jesus of Nazareth never existed... This theory has very little support among scholars."

    The Wikipedia article that quote is from gives a lot more sources. The only people I have ever heard say they don't believe Jesus was a real person are those who don't want him to have existed - never from anyone who has actually studied the subject. You can debate what he did and said, but trying to say he didn't exist shows you haven't studied near-East first century history at all.

  21. Re:So did he write facebook or not? by tompaulco · · Score: 2

    To be honest, the people who were first in charge were probably trustworthy but had no authority to grant shares. Then after about 3 years, they started getting weeded out and replaced with people who had no intentions of ever following through but continued to say they would. After three years, they were so far in my debt that I had to let it ride in hopes that it would payoff. I guess it was kind of like gambling. I figure altogether they owe me about $1 million in overtime, COLA, raises and vacation days.

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  22. Re: Is he dangerous? by The+Rizz · · Score: 2

    If I write an wikipedia article about Batman being real, will you use it too as reference?

    I'm not sure about that, but if given the choice I'd definitely choose Batman as my personal Lord and Savior over the zombie guy.

  23. Re:So did he write facebook or not? by Aighearach · · Score: 2

    To be honest, the people who were first in charge were probably trustworthy but had no authority to grant shares. Then after about 3 years, they started getting weeded out and replaced with people who had no intentions of ever following through but continued to say they would. After three years, they were so far in my debt that I had to let it ride in hopes that it would payoff. I guess it was kind of like gambling. I figure altogether they owe me about $1 million in overtime, COLA, raises and vacation days.

    Complete nonsense. If they were too far in debt to pay it off, and you sued them, you'd end up with the whole thing. The reality is unlikely to be thus, though. It is never too late for them to issue real shares to pay off their debt, if you'll accept those shares. Even if they had to split the stock to get it done.

    Another reality is that instead of meaning you "had to let it ride," you should have understood that you "had to take legal action immediately."

  24. Re:Is he dangerous? by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 2

    It must be different there. Tracking bracelets here are not just track violent offenders, they are also used for low-risk house arrest types ie white collar crims. Instead of expensive incarceration in a low security hotel like facility, the offender is forced to stay at home. It serves a similar purpose (ie restriction of freedom) but costs the taxpayer a whole lot less.

  25. Re: Is he dangerous? by Dog-Cow · · Score: 2

    Semites are not Blacks.

    That Jews from a region look like non-Jews from the same region is due to intermarriage. At the time Jesus lived, or is purported to live, it is very unlikely that his family tree would have contained enough African genes to make him what we would call a Black.