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Google: Our New System For Recognizing Faces Is the Best

schwit1 writes Last week, a trio of Google researchers published a paper on a new artificial intelligence system dubbed FaceNet that it claims represents the most accurate approach yet to recognizing human faces. FaceNet achieved nearly 100-percent accuracy on a popular facial-recognition dataset called Labeled Faces in the Wild, which includes more than 13,000 pictures of faces from across the web. Trained on a massive 260-million-image dataset, FaceNet performed with better than 86 percent accuracy.

The approach Google's researchers took goes beyond simply verifying whether two faces are the same. Its system can also put a name to a face—classic facial recognition—and even present collections of faces that look the most similar or the most distinct.
Every advance in facial recognition makes me think of Paul Theroux's dystopian Ozone.

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  1. Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The NSA and CIA must love the direction this company has taken.

    1. Re:Google by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 3, Interesting

      there was speculation that, early on, the nsa was a key funder of google. I think there was some dns registration stuff that made people do a double-take (long time ago, when google first started).

      could google have gotton so far without nsa's help? one wonders. and one will never actually know, either.

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    2. Re:Google by mbkennel · · Score: 3, Interesting


      > could google have gotton so far without nsa's help? one wonders. and one will never actually know, either.

      It's the other way around. NSA was interested in techniques and technology from google, especially high-performance large scale data processing. NSA was/is behind, and they knew it, and they knew the best didn't want to work with them any more when they could get a pre-IPO position at Google when Google had stunningly capable & ambitious people (2000-2005) on average.

    3. Re:Google by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      and they knew the best didn't want to work with them any more

      "Hey, do you want to work for us? People hate us, you'll have to pass paranoid security evaluation, but at least you'll get awesome government salary."

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  2. Confusion by clam666 · · Score: 4, Funny

    FaceNet achieved nearly 100-percent accuracy...

    " performed with better than 86 percent accuracy. "

    I'm not able to parse these numbers, or I have a misunderstanding as to what nearly means.

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    1. Re:Confusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Different databases used for different tests.
      13,000 pictures used in Labeled Faces in the Wild test
      260M pictures used in another test

    2. Re:Confusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      100-percent accuracy and recognizing the presence of a face in a photo
      86-percent accuracy in determining the identity of the face in the photo

    3. Re:Confusion by clam666 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Thanks for clearing that up.

      Maybe I screwed up by being on reddit to long earlier, but unless it detects cats I see no use for this technology.

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    4. Re:Confusion by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      100-percent accuracy and recognizing the presence of a face in a photo
      86-percent accuracy in determining the identity of the face in the photo

      Also two different databases. The "nearly 100%" was from a standard 13,000 photo data-set. The 86% result was from a different data-set of 260M photos. Very large training sets are critical to accurate neural net performance, so it isn't clear that they have better algorithms, rather than just more thorough training. Even using GPUs, training on that many images must have sucked up a lot of power. I am glad I don't have to pay their electric bill.

    5. Re:Confusion by RingDev · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The part that intrigues me is that they claim to return a name with the face.

      This would imply that their facial recognition isn't just a image match, but that it looks at the context of the photos it finds to attempt to identify meta data about the people within it. Assuming that their facial recognition is no better than anyone else's recognition, by adding meta data to the calculation, especially given Google's propensity to collect and search meta data, it would seem likely that they use the meta data to make stronger identifications and find more reference photos of potential matches.

      For example, if they do the first facial only search and come up with 10,000 possible matches, then they do meta searches on those 10,000 to find more pictures of them, then those pictures are compared for stronger 'training', you wind up with a much higher level of accuracy.

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    6. Re:Confusion by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      Really? My new system for recognizing numbers has deemed these numbers as identical.

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  3. why do we continue to do research.. by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    on really BAD ideas and freedom-killing ideas?

    you don't think this will be mostly used against us, one way or another?

    do no evil? yeah, right. I have this bridge here I can sell you...

    yet another example of 'lets plow ahead and not care about social blowback from our research'. scientists and engineers really need to go back to school and take an ETHICS course or two. maybe they'd realize that 'because you can, does not mean you should'.

    I see nothing good coming from this. nothing at all. just pure evil to be used against people.

    it takes a wise person to realize that some things should not be done. of course, google has geniuses but those geniuses have no idea at all how they are being played and how their work will be used to reduce freedom and privacy. sad that smart people can be conned into working against their own best interests ;(

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    1. Re:why do we continue to do research.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      why do we continue to do research..
      on really BAD ideas and freedom-killing ideas?

      Same reason we continue to write posts with the first sentence in the title:

      Because we are fucking self-centered assholes who think we are clever and
      don't give a damn whether or not our actions make life harder for other people.

    2. Re:why do we continue to do research.. by TFlan91 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Scientists and engineers are by definition not supposed to be ethical.

      You and I, as private citizens, take what they produce, determine if it's ethical/profitable/whatever, and act accordingly. Whether that is enacting a law banning said product, regulating it, or saying let the market do with it as it pleases.

      As a programmer, I applaud their skill, and even more so that they were able to complete what they set out to do. As a programmer, I understand why we celebrate these type of stories.

      As a private citizen, I do fear for my privacy.

      But do not confuse the two perspectives.

    3. Re:why do we continue to do research.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think it is unnecessary to say the two are exclusive of each other. Of course my opinion: but I feel like scientists and engineers should have an ethical responsibility for what they create, and have the forethought and wisdom to think of its potential usages and then weigh the pros and cons.
      The destruction possible through malpractice of technology, programming, and engineering is magnitudes greater than many other disciplines. That was the gist of what I learned in my ethics of computer science classes.

    4. Re:why do we continue to do research.. by McGruber · · Score: 4, Informative

      Scientists and engineers are by definition not supposed to be ethical.

      Professional Engineers (PEs) disagree:

      Ethics - National Society of Professional Engineers

      and

      National Society of Professional Engineers (NSPE) Code of Ethics for Engineers

    5. Re:why do we continue to do research.. by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2

      I disagree; by the time the thing has been developed or invented, its already too late.

      inventors HAVE to be sensitive to how their ideas will be abused.

      again, because it can be done, does not mean it should be done.

      I don't give inventors a pass, sorry. they need to think about their actions and they should be responsible for when bad things happen directly due to their poor choices. if no one is held responsible, then bad idea will continue to enslave us.

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  4. Obligatory.... by Kenja · · Score: 2

    Yup, that's a face. I'd recognize one of those things anywhere.

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  5. Re:Somehow I don't feel like celebrating by clam666 · · Score: 2, Funny

    But how will they ever tag neckbeards? There's too much data interference to get a good analysis of the face for the neural network. Neckbeards will take over us all and be immune to surveillance. We'll have to go back to reading license plates of cars at Taco Bell at 3am.

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  6. but I don't WANT to get faced by swschrad · · Score: 2

    how about instead, when Google face recognition blinks green, it provides the SSN and path to school for Sergey or Larry, instead of me. doesn't that sound appropriate?

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  7. Can we get an API. by jellomizer · · Score: 2

    I wouldn't mind getting my hand on their API. I am almost done with SkyNet. I just needed better face matching... Too many accidents.

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  8. Real Names by thegoldenear · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now do you understand Google+'s initial policy on real names?

    Pete Boyd

  9. Re:Somehow I don't feel like celebrating by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hmm... you're right, we have to get that under control.

    Get the PR dept to slap together a press kit. What we need is footage of some murderers and generally insane people with neckbeards. Make sure that you add a few shots of those islamist loonies, they're full of face wool, too. Tell them to not waste all their powder on one shot, have them release it slowly so it can sink in with the targets. Try to get that Stallman guy in there too, somehow, that way we might get a shot at that open source stuff where we can't sensibly include our backdoors. At least with the boomers it should stick, they know jack about computers but trust the TV.

    Networks should gobble this up without asking, it's free news, that's all they care about.

    For the millennials, try to get the story into one of those "10 things you didn't know" pages. Slap something together about 10 things you don't know about neckbeards, 10 most heinous murderers (of course you pick the neckbeard fraction), get creative! They'll love it.

    Find celebrities and make sure they hate beards. Beards have to become "uncool". Only clean shaven guys get the chicks. And guys, let's not forget the fags.

    Get back to me when this is rolling, maybe we don't even have to do more.

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  10. Now combine this with GoogleGlass... by mrego · · Score: 2

    This would help people like me, who can't put names to faces or fail to notice when a face is the same as the one I saw last year... Perfect Glass application.

  11. This is why: by fyngyrz · · Score: 2

    That sounds good. The problem is, and will always be, that you may have the right ethics handled, but somewhere else, someone doesn't, and they'll just create and use the tech against you in an environment where you've not looked at it in a real world sense, and properly compensated for it to the extent that is possible.

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  12. Speak for yourself; most of us DO have ethics by FreeUser · · Score: 2

    Scientists and engineers are by definition not supposed to be ethical.

    "I just invented the bomb. I didn't drop it."
            --Brice, Max Headroom Episode 1 "Blipverts", 1987

    Reference (in particular, the third video clip): http://www.avclub.com/article/...

    Back then that line was meant as tongue-in-cheek humor, funny because of its ridiculousness Depressing that we've degenerated so far that you've actually said the equivalent with all seriousness. (The same could be said for many things in that once funny, now prophetic series.)

    As engineers and scientists we do NOT check our humanity at the door, or our ethics. At least, good engineers and scientists do not.

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