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Hacking Weight Loss: What I Learned Losing 30 Pounds

reifman writes The CDC reports that 69% of adult Americans are overweight or obese. Techies like us are at increased risk because of our sedentary lifestyles. Perhaps you even scoffed at Neilsen's recent finding that some Americans spend only 11 hours daily of screen time. Over the last nine months, I've lost 30 pounds and learned a lot about hacking weight loss and I did it without fad diets, step trackers, running or going paleo. No such discussion is complete without a link to the Hacker Diet.

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  1. eliminate extra sugar by i.r.id10t · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I did it by eliminating extra sugar. Doc warned me I was pushing hte pre-diabetic stage with my morning blood sugar.

    No more sweet tea, coke, or adding sugar to my coffee. Sucked for about a week, after that, no problems, and I've dropped 30lbs with no real effort other than breaking the sugar habit in that first week.

    Quit smoking 2 weeks ago, we'll see how that part goes and if I end up gaining weight back ('cause food will taste better, supposedly, or maybe just noshing as a replacement for having a smoke ... so far hasn't happened)

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    1. Re:eliminate extra sugar by Nemesisghost · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Keep off the sugar by replacing your cigarettes with veggie sticks, like carrot or celery. Sugar free gum works too.

    2. Re:eliminate extra sugar by fermion · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Eating concentrated calories that do not fill you up is the problem. All simple carbohydrates, chips, white bread, wheat tortillas, fried potatoes are an issue. An 8 oz steak is 25% of the calories most us need for a day. A Chippendale carnitas burrito is half.

      So there is also an issue of food availability. When I was young I split all entrees at restaurants with the person I was with. I don't do that anymore and it has become an increasing issue. Also, one does not burn off calories and fat as easily when one gets older

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    3. Re:eliminate extra sugar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I used to have 2 sugars in my tea or coffee. After I quit smoking, I found it disgusting because my taste buds started working again. Now I have tea with no sugar, and coffee with half a sugar.

      I believe my experience isn't the norm, however.

    4. Re:eliminate extra sugar by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Worry beads also help. I used to have a hand mouth habit, but kept getting sick. Substituted worry beads (something to fiddle with) and I stopped getting sick. Do not underestimate the power of keeping your fingers away from your mouth.

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    5. Re:eliminate extra sugar by jabuzz · · Score: 2

      Think of sugar as "teeth rotting granules", because that is what it is and it should be easier to cut out.

    6. Re:eliminate extra sugar by erp_consultant · · Score: 2

      First off - congrats on losing the weight. 30lbs is nothing to scoff at.

      Here's my take on it....

      There are three pilers to good health - nutrition, exercise and rest. A lot of people forget about the rest part but it's important. Exercise will make you feel better, and probably look better.

      For me nutrition is the most important factor. It's the fuel your body uses and the first line of defense on disease prevention. Eating the right foods can prevent things like high blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes, even some cancers.

      So what to eat? Supermarkets are full of unhealthy products with little or no nutritional value. I try to stay away from the "white stuff" - white sugar, white flour, white rice, white bread, etc. and substitute whole wheat where possible. Whole wheat has a lot of fiber in it and that is essential for weight loss. Fiber sort of expands in your stomach so that you feel more full eating less food. It's also good for your digestive track.

      More fruits and vegetables are always good. If you're not big on that then get a juice machine.

      Here's my recipe for a morning smoothie:

      1 banana (organic if you can get it)
      3-4 strawberries
      A hand full of Kale (that dark leafy green vegetable. it's full of Omega-3 - great stuff)
      1 egg (or egg white if you are more health conscious. eggs are one of the best sources of protein you can get)
      1 teaspoon of ground flax seed (excellent source of fiber)
      1 cup of water ( substitute juice if you like)

      It's filling and really good for you. If you drink one of those a day it will contain all the fruits and vegetables you need.

      Keep up the good work!

    7. Re:eliminate extra sugar by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      All simple carbohydrates, chips, white bread, wheat tortillas, fried potatoes are an issue

      Hogwash! I used to eat more whole-grains, nuts, and protein, but had to cut back due to kidney stones such that I had to go back to "starchy" foods. My weight changed NONE: still plump.

      But again, every body is different. Extrapolation of one experience needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Pun intended.

    8. Re:eliminate extra sugar by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Informative
      Reading the article I saw this:

      It helps greatly if you are willing to eat similar foods day to day that are easy to track

      THIS is my problem. I tend to rarely eat pre-packaged processed food, or simple things. I cook from scratch, large batches of things, to eat as leftovers for most of the week.

      Let's say since greens are in season now, I cook a HUGE 6-7QT pot of greens, Basically the only fat in the thing is 1lb of Andouille sausage. This pot will easily be 6-10 portions/meals. Granted this is a simple dish with few ingredients, but what about the same size pot of mushroom chili? Or something else that is complex and has a lot of ingredients and I don't really know how many meals will come put of it, or maybe it is something I'd combine with other leftovers into a different dish, for example I might grill out a bunch of eggplant, onions and zucchini...I might eat some in a salad, or maybe some as a wrap with yogurt sauce..etc.

      The thing is...I rarely cook anything simple with an easy to find and read ingredients list, It would take forever to figure what the calories and all were from what I cook since so much of it is fresh vegetable and meat based, etc.

      I dunno what a portion would be in so many cases...although it is largely healthy food.

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    9. Re:eliminate extra sugar by losfromla · · Score: 2

      It's not that hard, just weigh everything as you are putting it in. Chances are you are using the same ingredients over and over and all you need is a list of the calories, fat, carbs in those ingredients and with how much is in a pot and how much you consume, it should not be hard to figure out. This is slashdot so I assume we can all do basic math.

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    10. Re:eliminate extra sugar by Copid · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It also recenters your brain's assumptions about what is "sweet enough" in other foods. If you've been drinking soda regularly to the point where a good apple tastes like cardboard, the calories from the sweet drinks has become only part of the problem. I know people who knocked off the zero-calorie diet sodas and suddenly found their overall eating habits improved because they didn't crave as much sweetness in other foods.

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    11. Re:eliminate extra sugar by losfromla · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I would note that the guy who dies at 65 with a Bic Mac in hand appears to be happier than the guy who dies at 82 on a treadmill sweating his bloody ass off.

      Really? Some fat guy with high cholesterol, a non-functioning penis, out of breath from walking from his car to McDonalds looks happier than the 82 year old who has a fully functioning body and still wears out his old lady? Besides, he's likely to die instead while running outside on a bright sunshiny day or harvesting in his garden. Even if he is in the gym, he died while doing what he wanted to do and outlived the 65 year old fattie by almost 20 years, win!

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    12. Re:eliminate extra sugar by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

      Oh my ... and oure starge is digested and pulled into the blood stream and likely already on the way to be converted into fat after how many minutes?
      How does the same question look for unrefined whole grain?

      Why do people who have no clue about nutrition and are likely fat themselves try to give advice to other fat people?

      How much starch does a pound refined grain contain? How much starch does a pound of whole grain contain? Oh? You did not think there was a difference?

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    13. Re:eliminate extra sugar by NotDrWho · · Score: 4, Informative

      First off - congrats on losing the weight. 30lbs is nothing to scoff at.

      Not to be too much of a dick about it, but I never congratulate someone for losing weight. If pushed, I'll tell them I'll congratulate them in 5 years, if they've managed to KEEP it off.

      Losing weight is actually not that hard. Some of us have done it many, many, many times. It's keeping it off in the years that follow that's really tough.

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    14. Re:eliminate extra sugar by losfromla · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Glycemic index is the immediate response, glycemic load is how much sugar you took in. Sorry, I confused your responses with Tablizer's who mentioned he was still plump.

      Yes, beer does contain carbs and should also be eliminated. Your tone makes it sound as if eliminating that is out of the question or beyond the pale.

      I am pretty close to zero carbs, it is not impossible but it does require work and discipline, like anything that is worth doing in life. Any extra calories from carbs that are not needed immediately need to be cleared as they are digested as you know. Since most of us lead sedentary lives, that means most of them will need to be cleared(stored) as they are digested. Fat on the other hand can happily float about without causing the body to panic and cause an insulin response. This is why eating fat is much healthier, the body doesn't feel a compelling need to shove it into storage to maintain a healthy/low blood sugar level. I think we agree more than we disagree as I also believe that losing weight on a low carb diet is the best way to do it. That some people are too weak to do it is another matter.

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    15. Re:eliminate extra sugar by Kjella · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The thing is, you don't really need to all OCD on the calories, just get it ballpark right.

      Veggies and fruit? Mostly <50 kcal/100g
      Lean food? 100 kcal/100g.
      Average food? 200 kcal/100g.
      Fatty food? 300 kcal/100g
      Sweets? 400 kcal/100g
      Snacks? 500 kcal/100g

      Oh and beer 200kcal/0.5L... partying is hard on your weight :/ particularly since it makes me hungry for late night supersized junk food too, which is as stupid as it gets. Volume is also a big thing, when I wanted to binge I could make myself 300 grams of pasta, add 400 grams of sausage and pour a glass of 500 ml sauce over it. That's a 3*350 (uncooked, ~100 cooked)+4*200+5*40 = 2000 kcal dish. I knew it was too much, but I guess I just didn't want to know how much. These days I make about 40% of that and it's still a slightly oversized dinner. So I'd say weighing it is the main thing, you can mostly ballpark how healthy it is.

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    16. Re:eliminate extra sugar by miller701 · · Score: 2

      I've cut down to 12 oz of pop a day (from the 40-50 oz) and it was tough the first week and I've pretty much stuck to it.It's about changing habits and like in the like he did some changes then some more than some more. It's working well so far.

    17. Re:eliminate extra sugar by losfromla · · Score: 2

      Fiber provides zero nutrition so it does not stave off hunger, bloated is not the same as energized. 4 teaspoons of sugar is four teaspoons of sugar.

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  2. Move more, eat less by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Another thing is to eat slower. Put your knife and fork down between mouthfulls.

    1. Re:Move more, eat less by NatasRevol · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not sure why you're down voted, but this is how I reduced my caloric intake. A drink between every single bite. Slows down intake, makes you feel fuller, satiety sets in sooner.

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    2. Re:Move more, eat less by Tx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unless you have more on your plate than you need (in which case there's a better obvious solution to the problem), I don't see where this gets you in terms of calorific intake; eating slowly doesn't change the number of calories on the plate. It might make a difference to the rate of increase of blood glucose, which has its own benefits, but I doubt it will make much difference to that, because its the rate of digestion that's going to determine blood glucose levels.

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    3. Re:Move more, eat less by NatasRevol · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not everyone puts the *exact* right amount of calories on their plate. Apparently that's not obvious to you.

      This helps you feel fuller before all the food is gone & not finish everything on your plate.

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    4. Re:Move more, eat less by itzly · · Score: 2

      It takes a while for the body to feel full. If you eat slowly, there's more chance you'll actually feel full at the end of the plate/meal, and not go back for seconds.

    5. Re:Move more, eat less by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As far as I'm concerned this is the real problem. Most meals come with way, way more calories than you should have, particularly if you're eating any form of take-out. To the point where you may be eating two days of food in one sitting, and not really even realize it. I looked at one meal at a restaurant my wife likes, and calculated 4500 calories. We like to laugh at the imgur photos with the fat person and 5 buckets of KFC, but this particular meal did not look nearly so gluttonous.

      Eat slowly, take drinks, but if you clean your plate like mom asked then you just ate 2 days worth of food in one sitting and probably didn't even realize it (and will be hungry in a few hours, depending on how starchy it all was). I've lost 50 lbs by just packing my own food 19/21 meals a week (and actually eating 3x a day, which goes to OPs point about spacing things out a bit, which does help). Not only does it save a ton of money, it takes the pounds off.

      Take-out has a dilemma, in that labor and rent is a high cost to them, so they tend to give you too much food which is relatively cheap in the US to make you feel like you got your money's worth. But what we really need is half that amount of food, spaced better through the day.

    6. Re:Move more, eat less by GTRacer · · Score: 2

      Occasionally take more than you want to eat and then THROW IT OUT

      I... I cannot do this. I joke with my family that I have a food-waste neurosis. It is incredibly difficult for me to toss out viable food. I used "viable" specifically because I eat a lot of leftovers and will eat food that's bordering on expired rather than throw it out.

      The upside is that for places that pack in two meals' worth in one order I get two meals out of it (usually dinner the day I ordered and lunch at work the next). I also have an amazingly-tolerant tummy in terms of food quality - I rarely get sick from eating whatever, whenever. I have some hardy flora in there. Maybe some fauna too.

      The downside is that I have occasionally crossed the "expired" line and wind up with no lunch at all...

      More context: I'm early 40s, cut out sugary sodas about 5 years ago and dropped about 45 pounds off that alone (I take about 5 sodas a day). Got to a good weight years ago and maintained it for a long time until this past November when I had some major life events stressing me out, which led to stress-eating and the gain of about one stone over 4 months. Got most of the stress sorted and am actively trying to regain control of my eating...

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    7. Re:Move more, eat less by nealric · · Score: 2

      I can't find something like that funny. But it is instructive. When I see a morbidly obese person roll up to the checkout counter, their food choices are awful. EVERY SINGLE TIME. They are buying nothing but soda by the case, prepackaged meals, and bags of candy. I've literally never seen someone who was 100lbs or more overweight come to the checkout counter with a significant amount of fresh produce. The correlation is so strong I can estimate someone's BMI pretty accurately just by looking at their unattended shopping cart.

    8. Re:Move more, eat less by orgelspieler · · Score: 2

      I'm the same way. I hate throwing away something that hasn't completely turned into slime mold. Easy solution that doesn't involve throwing anything away: Bring reusable leftover containers to dinner. Cut meal in half. Put one half in container. Eat the other half. Bring container to work the next day for lunch. As long as you're not eating super-bad-for-you food all the time, this should help you lose a good 15-20 lbs. If you find that you haven't eaten the leftovers in a couple of days, put them in the freezer (since throwing them out will make you twitch). Plus you don't end up throwing away as much Styrofoam as you would using restaurant to-go boxes.

    9. Re:Move more, eat less by jimbobborg · · Score: 2

      No one is forcing you or anyone else to eat the whole plate full of food at a restaurant. Split the meal in half, eat one side and take home the rest. It's not that hard, folks.

  3. Common sense by sadness203 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Eat well.
    Exercice

    Everything else is plain wishful thinking.

    1. Re:Common sense by gatkinso · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't eat anything that wasn't alive.

      For instance, there is not a creature called a "Dorito"

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    2. Re:Common sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You can do it without either of those, I dropped from 215 pounds to 170 pounds and have held it off for years with almost no exercise and a pretty poor diet. I really didn't change what I ate at all, I just strictly regulated how much of it I did. Smaller portions for everything to keep myself averaging around 1,500 kcal a day.

    3. Re:Common sense by danbob999 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Neither was one called "Salad" or "Tofu".

    4. Re:Common sense by jedidiah · · Score: 2

      "Don't anythng that wasn't alive" is a poor way of putting it.

      It's more like, don't buy anything ready made. Buy only agricultural commodities. Buy only components.

      You avoid most of the junk that way.

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    5. Re:Common sense by nikhilhs · · Score: 2

      Tofu is processed soy, so I'm not a fan of it. But salad is just a bowl of lettuce, tomato, cucumber, etc., all of which were alive.

    6. Re:Common sense by Anubis+IV · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Ayup. If there's one thing I've learned from hearing all of the success stories from real people (as opposed to people selling a product or service), it's that it always boils down to eating well and exercising, and that those two things look different for different people.

      Whether it means engaging in better portion control*, cutting back on specific food groups that your gut metabolizes better than the majority of the population, or simply exercising more so that you burn more calories, the only constant between everyone I've talked to who lost the weight and kept it off is that they found the right balance of eating well and exercising that worked for them.

      * I saw an article a few months ago that was talking about how doctors have been seeing a disturbing number of people coming in complaining of abdominal pain. Upon further investigation, it's turning out that these people are suffering from nothing more than hunger pangs because they've forgotten how they feel. That's when I realized it was time for me to do better portion control, since I couldn't remember having had a hunger pang in at least six months. That plus a budget that I needed to tighten led to less junk food in the house and less eating out. End result? I dunno, but I've been consistently losing weight (about 20 lbs. so far) at a slow but steady rate that's producing visible improvements, without making any other changes to my lifestyle. It won't work for everyone, but it is working for me.

    7. Re:Common sense by CaptainDork · · Score: 2

      Why is this modded at zero?

      The answer to weight loss is consuming fewer calories.

      Exercise is beneficial for reasons other than weight loss.

      I can choose to walk on a treadmill for an hour and burn 140 calories or simply decline to eat two (2) slices of bread.

      Leave the remark at 2, for crying out loud.

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    8. Re:Common sense by itzly · · Score: 2

      And sugar is just processed sugar cane (or sugar beets), which was also alive.

    9. Re:Common sense by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      Eat well. Exercise

      "Eat, drink, and be merry" is somehow more catchy, though.

  4. Eat less than you burn by Thanshin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How fricking complicated is it to eat less than you burn?

    Calories and Macros

    Basic Terminology
    1/ BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate): The amount of calories you need to consume to maintain if you were comatose (base level).
    2/ NEAT (Non-Exercise Associated Thermogenesis): The calorie of daily activity that is NOT exercise (eg: washing, walking, talking, shopping, working). ie: INCIDENTAL EXERCISE! It is something that everyone has a good amount of control over.
    3/ EAT (Exercise Associated Thermogenesis): The calorie requirements associated with planned exercise. Unless someone is doing a whole heap of exercise (eg: two or more hrs training a day) it usually doesn't add a stack of calories to your requirements (30 minutes of 'elliptical training' isn't going to burn 6000 cals)
    4/ TEF (Thermic effect of feeding): The calorie expenditure associated with eating. This is NOT dependent on MEAL FREQUENCY. It is a % of TOTAL CALORIES CONSUMED (and 15% of 3 x 600 cal meals is the same as 15% of 6 x 300 cal meals). It varies according to MACRONUTRIENT and FIBER content. For most mixed diets, it is something around 15%. Protein is higher (up to 25%), carbs are variable (between 5-25%), and fats are low (usually less than 5%). So more protein, more carbs, and more fiber = HIGHER TEF. More FAT = LOWER TEF.
    5/ TEE (Total Energy Expenditure): The total calories you require. It = sum of the above (BMR + NEAT + EAT + TEF).
    To make things simple, NEAT + EAT + TEF is often just calculated through a daily ACTIVITY FACTOR.

    How much do I Need?
    A multitude of things impact MAINTENANCE calorie needs.
    - Age & sex (males generally need > females)
    - Total weight & lean mass (more lean mass = more needed)
    - Physiological status (eg: sick or injured, pregnant, growth')
    - Hormones
    - Exercise level (more activity = more needed)
    - Daily activity level (more activity = more needed)
    - Diet (that is - macronutrient intake)

    In order to calculate your requirements the most accurate measure is Calorimetry [the measure of 'chemical reactions' in your body & the heat produced by these reactions], either directly (via a calorimeter where the heat you produce is measured) or indirectly (eg: HOOD studies where they monitor how much oxygen you use/ carbon dioxide and nitrogen you excrete over a given time). But these are completely impractical for most people & we rely on pre-set formula to calculate our needs.

    Estimating Requirements
    The simplest method uses a standard 'calories per unit weight (usually kgs)'. They calculate a TOTAL CAL REQUIREMENT (TEE). That means you DO NOT need to x by an ACTIVITY FACTOR. They are:
    - 26 to 30 kcals/kg/day for normal, healthy individuals with sedentary lifestyles doing little physical activity [12.0-14 kcal/pound]
    - 31 to 37 kcal/kg/day for those involved in light to moderate activity 3-5 x a week with moderately active lifestyles [14-16 kcal/ pound]
    - 38 to 40 kcals/kg/day for those involved in vigorous activity and highly active jobs [16-18 kcal/ pound].
    For those involved in HEAVY training (eg: athletes) - the demand is greater:
    - 41 to 50 kcals/kg/day for those involved in moderate to heavy training (for example: 15-20 hrs/ week training) [18.5-22 kcal/ pound]
    - 50 or above kcals/kg/day for those involved in heavy to extreme training [> 22 kcal/ pound]

    THEN - There are also other formula which calculate BMR. For these you then ADD AN ACTIVITY FACTOR TO REACH TEE. These are:
    1/ Harris-Benedict formula: Very inaccurate & derived from studies on LEAN, YOUNG, ACTIVE males in 1919. Notorious for OVERESTIMATING requirements, especially in the overweight. DON'T USE IT!
    MEN: BMR = 66 + [13.7 x weight (kg)] + [5 x height (cm)] - [6.76 x age (years)]
    WOMEN: BMR = 655 + [9.6 x weight (kg)] + [1.8 x height (cm)] - [4.7 x age (years)]

    2/Mifflin-St Jeor: Developed in the 1990s and more realistic in todays settings. Still doesn't cons

    1. Re:Eat less than you burn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      "How fricking complicated is it to eat less than you burn?"

      Followed by a huge, complicated, wall of text.

      I suppose it's THAT complicated!

      Here's an easier alternative:
      1. Eliminate all sugar (read labels... do not eat anything over 2g of sugar)
      2. Eat vegetables (brussel sprouts, celery, broccoli, peppers, onions)
      3. Eat fish
      4. Eat nuts
      5. Eat salad
      6. Eggs and bacon for breakfast
      7. Drink lots of water, and eat salt as you crave it

      Fat is good, protein is good, carbs should be avoided, but if you must eat carbs, eat fresh potatoes.

    2. Re:Eat less than you burn by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 2

      How fricking complicated is it to eat less than you burn?

      Like I stated above, having an office job and not exercising, one would only need ~1300 calories for equilibrium. Eating under that, let alone 300-500 calories less than that to start shedding fat is not only HARD, it may be damn well impossible for some people

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    3. Re:Eat less than you burn by itzly · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How fricking complicated is it to eat less than you burn?

      It's not complicated, just hard.

    4. Re:Eat less than you burn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How fricking complicated is it to eat less than you burn?
       
      Obviously it is more involved or you wouldn't have felt the need to go into a damn-near novel length dissertation that included (GASP!) numbers and talk about such concepts as protein intake...
       
      Seriously, if you think you have it all figured out with a simple sentence then good on you. Some of us know that it's not as simple as taking in less than you expel. The point isn't just to lose weight but to do it in a controlled fashion that also provides good nutrition. If it was as simple as taking in less and putting out more then most people would just lose weight by drinking water and eating celery. Any lunkhead knows that isn't going to work. So, no, it's not that simple and you know that.
       
      Now stop being a snide, rude jackass about it.

    5. Re:Eat less than you burn by jones_supa · · Score: 2

      Just put a quick summary in the beginning. :) There's so much information surrounding us these days that it's hard to judge whether reading all of your text is worth it.

    6. Re:Eat less than you burn by avandesande · · Score: 2

      I've been on low carb for more than two years now and lost 40# without having to count calories. I am not going to say it would work for anyone but as I got older my blood sugar would swing wildly after eat starch or sugar- now I don't have to worry about it.

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    7. Re:Eat less than you burn by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 2

      Ugh, one of the things that I hate about BMR calculations is that they always seem to think that you're going to have an active job AND be an athlete when you get to high activity levels. I've got a sedentary job, but I'm an active competitive swimmer.

      And then not all exercise is created equal. I burn more calories training 6 hours a week as a swimmer than I did training 10-12 hours a week as a cyclist. Part of it is just biomechanical efficiency--bikes make everything easier--but there's actually an effect of being in cold water 6 hours a week that's not insignificant. Not to mention I have more muscles being active while swimming than when I'm cycling.

      But I guess at this point, I'm actually beyond using these estimators. I've got good direct estimates of power and calories while I'm on the bike, and my swimming is just more than that. Now I just eat to keep up and stop feeling hungry.

    8. Re:Eat less than you burn by jedidiah · · Score: 2

      Yup. That's why you need to EXERCISE. Excercise will increase your metabolic rate for about 18 hours afterwards. This will help counteract your body's tendency to go into panic shutdown mode due to lack of food.

      Diet and exercise.

      They go together like a horse and carriage.

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    9. Re:Eat less than you burn by CaptainDork · · Score: 2

      Goddam ...

      Tl;dr

      It's way to fucking complicated.

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    10. Re:Eat less than you burn by njnnja · · Score: 2

      Every other animal on this planet eats about as much as it can, whenever it can get it, because it doesn't know when the next meal will come by.

      We evolved to do that too and so our brain (or at least the lizard part of it) is screaming at us to "EAT THAT ALL NOW!!!" and that is the problem.

    11. Re:Eat less than you burn by rhazz · · Score: 2

      Have to agree with this. One of the biggest difficulties is becoming educated on what (enjoyable) foods you can still eat are. My wife chose to lose 30 lbs prior to having kids, and found a free app that enabled her to know her daily intake just by tracking content and serving sizes and setting goals - it was essentially a free competitor to the Weight Watchers app. The app had a large online database of specific food products along with their exact serving sizes, the only additional thing she needed was a food weight scale (~$30). Everything had a point scale and you were allotted X points per day, with an additional Y points per week if you choose to go out during the week.

      It was frankly amazing to us how much caloric content is in very small amounts of food. One week my wife had done well and still had weekly points, so we decide to get a slice of Pizza Pizza. Of course the pizza slice had a high point cost, but the shocker was that a single serving of the garlic dipping sauce was almost as many points as the slice itself.

      Overall, it worked out for my wife mainly because she enjoyed a variety of raw vegetables and fruits with low calories. Finding low calorie food that you enjoy is probably a significant hurdle for many. It also requires support from those you live with - I personally have a great metabolism and have a terribly high caloric intake which caused many temptations for my wife until I made concessions.

    12. Re:Eat less than you burn by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How fricking complicated is it to eat less than you burn?

      It's way more complicated than you make it out to be. You're offering the very best advice 1983 had to offer.

      Until you factor in the rates of digestion, the enzyme production rate of the individual, the hormone response of the individual, and the freaking liver and pancreas, not to mention the brain which mediates the whole thing, the very best you can offer is an order-of-magnitude estimate. There aren't seven billion different metabolisms out there, but there is at least an n-by-m matrix of them for every variability in the human metabolic system.

      This is why so many people fail even at strict calorie-counting diets. Humans are NOT bomb calorimeters! Say it again and again until it sinks in.

      For Pete's sake, there are leptin-resistent people who can put weight on at 500 calories a day.

      Until we have mastered DNA analysis on this to genotype individuals, cutting out simple and refined carbohydrates is at least a way to claw back the worst of the modern diet, and avoid big swings in the leptin/ghrelin/insulin feedback systems - most people eat because they are hungry.

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  5. Not a diet, but a lifestyle change by QuietLagoon · · Score: 5, Insightful
    If you "go on a diet" you are defeated before you even start.

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    If you want to lose weight, you have to go into the process with the goal of changing your lifestyle permanently, otherwise the weight will return when you finish the diet.

    Go into the weight loss process with the right mindset - a permanent change of what and how you eat, along with any changes in your activity regimen.

    The reason most people regain the wieght they lose on a diet is that they view a diet as something temporary, which it is.

    Don't go on a diet (Hacker's Diet or otherwise), but do make a permanent change to your lifestyle.

    1. Re:Not a diet, but a lifestyle change by itzly · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Don't go on a diet (Hacker's Diet or otherwise), but do make a permanent change to your lifestyle.

      In other words: go on a diet, but never quit.

    2. Re:Not a diet, but a lifestyle change by dave562 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This is spot on and should be modded up.

      Enter personal anecdote...

      About fifteen years ago I was starting to struggle with sciatic nerve pain due to years spent driving a car with a heavy racing clutch in traffic, and a lack of exercise. I considered my options and decided to start practicing tai chi. I caught a bit of a break and found a legitimate sifu. After a couple years of tai chi, I started training kung fu as well. It has been over a decade and I train on a daily basis. I can eat whatever I want because I burn it off.

      None the less, it is a struggle. Despite all of the benefits, there are plenty of days when I would rather go home after work and play video games instead of heading over to the temple to train or teach classes. I still have not overcome the "exercise sucks" mentality. Sure, the endorphins are great and being able to defend myself is great, and have a strong and healthy body is great... but it is still work for me, not fun.

  6. Amazing post by kamapuaa · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow! The guy ate less calories, and he lost weight!

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    1. Re:Amazing post by kamapuaa · · Score: 2

      True, I was simplifying. But basically he just said he ate less and exercised. Why would this be a hack? It's just common sense. A hack implies some kind of clever nerdy invention.

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    2. Re:Amazing post by jabuzz · · Score: 2

      Show me the obese Tour de France cyclist? These guys consume around 10,000 calories a day. The only and I repeat ONLY way these guys are not obese is because they are exercising. Sure this is an extreme example but the point is that even at 10,000 calories a day sufficient exercise will burn it all off, and myths about exercise and weight loss are proved false.

      The exercising does nothing for weight loss is an excuse for lazy obese people not to exercise.

    3. Re:Amazing post by Kjella · · Score: 2

      That they need to eat 10,000 calories a day to sustain them doesn't mean they could eat 2000 kcal and net a -8000 loss. The most strenuous one day event I've done burns 5-6000 kcal, anything less than 3-4000 kcal in and you're likely to run into a proverbial brick wall. It's common to try overdoing it on exercise while cutting the intake and the result is a body with no power at all, that engine needs fuel to work and pure body fat won't do.

      But over to the obese people, when I started out I could do maybe 350-400 kcal/hour and I'd probably not last the full hour. And the body feels like total shit afterwards, it's real easy to end up with excessive strain due to weight on muscles and joints that aren't used to it. It's almost like a U-curve, if you're fat and don't strain your body you're pretty comfy. If you're healthy and exercise you're comfy. But in the middle is a rather ugly place. So you come home, feel bloody miserable but hey you exercised and did good so you can give yourself a little bonus right? Turns out the kind of bonus you need on your high-sugar, high-fat diet pretty much negates any calorie benefit.

      If you don't start with your intake you'll never get anywhere. Exercise is a nice accelerator, but it's really, really hard to counteract a +500 kcal intake with exercise. And that's not particularly much soda, snacks, sweets and junk food.

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  7. Re:It's simple. Eat less and eat less crap by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 4, Insightful

    East less calories? Gotcha.

    The problem isn't so much "too many calories" consumed, but that the sedimentary lifestyle people are accustomed doesn't require even close to the 2000 calorie "standard diet". If you drive to work, sit behind a desk all day, go home and even do mundane, unimpactful chores, like vacuuming and wiping things down, and average person would be lucky to need maybe 1200-1300 calories as their TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure). Even drinking nothing but water, and consuming mostly calorie empty foods like lettuce/salad, you still need your macronutrients, which when adding carbs and fat now will take you to your quite low TDEE with very little food/effort.

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  8. dyson mod by xombo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Was I the only one who went to his site hoping for an Arduino mod for my dyson that will turn it into a liposuction machine?

  9. Here's the scientific evidence by nbauman · · Score: 5, Informative

    I realize that randomized, controlled trials in peer-reviewed journals may not be the whole, final truth, but this is a nice catalog of everything that you can argue over.

    http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/1...
    Myths, Presumptions, and Facts about Obesity
    Krista Casazza, Kevin R. Fontaine, Arne Astrup, et al.
    N Engl J Med 2013; 368:446-454. January 31, 2013. DOI: 10.1056/NEJMsa1208051 [FREE]

    Results. We identified seven obesity-related myths concerning the effects of small sustained increases in energy intake or expenditure, establishment of realistic goals for weight loss, rapid weight loss, weight-loss readiness, physical-education classes, breast-feeding, and energy expended during sexual activity. We also identified six presumptions about the purported effects of regularly eating breakfast, early childhood experiences, eating fruits and vegetables, weight cycling, snacking, and the built (i.e., human-made) environment. Finally, we identified nine evidence-supported facts that are relevant for the formulation of sound public health, policy, or clinical recommendations.

  10. Cut Calories and Increase Exercise. My god! by lordmage · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My Fitness Pay is a great "Food log" which was told I should use 25 years ago when I first started noticing the "behind the desk" effect. I still play sports constantly but the weight gain was huge.

    I lost 50+ lbs on MyfitnessPal. I didn't need to eat the crappy "whey" and other tasteless stuff. I chose to eat a bowl of cereal in the morning, low cal lunch (100-200 cals from a frozen quick meal) and I would eat a big dinner. Big dinner? Steak and Potato with a Salad at Outback. All that under the calorie limit to sit sedentary and lose 1.5 lbs a week.

    When I stopped Myfitnesspal, I gained weight. Its a simple equation: Get a real Food Diary and use it.

    Now, to get that my fitness pal back on track.

    Oh, and avoid Diet Drinks. This guy mentions he ate high protein to make sure he burned FAT but diet drinks just make you crave food. I really think high protein foods = less sugar = less cravings. Thus the steaks are much better than burgers effect for losing weight. They stay in you longer and are half the calories.

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  11. Hacking? by jdharm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You didn't hack crap. You just acted like a reasonable person and not a mindless sedentary eating machine. That's like walking and saying you "hacked sitting" to get you from point A to point B.

  12. Keep track of what you eat by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

    The best way to lose weight is to burn more calories than you consume. One problem is that it is really easy in our society to consume calories. You just ate a plate of whole wheat pasta with veggies. Healthy right? No, because you likely had about 3 servings of pasta.

    I used MyFitnessPal to help me track my calorie intake. One helpful feature is the bar code scanner. You can scan almost any product and get the nutritional information right into your mobile device. I dropped about 20 pounds while using that.

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    1. Re:Keep track of what you eat by Strider- · · Score: 2

      One helpful feature is the bar code scanner. You can scan almost any product and get the nutritional information right into your mobile device.

      And there's the problem... Good food doesn't have a barcode. Very little of what I bring home from the grocery store has barcodes on it, and what does usually just has the internal store code on it (meat), or is a bulk package (20lb bag of flour, etc...). All these food tracking/diary apps are really built for tracking packaged/prepared foods, and are a pain to use when you make stuff from scratch. As such, unless you're going to weigh and add all the ingredients manually (I'm way too lazy for that), you're left with generic estimates of what you're eating "Plate of pasta" or "Steak Dinner" or whatever, which can be wildly inaccurate if you're like me and tend to invent as you go and/or substitute ingredients based on what you have.

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  13. Not difficult.... by mseeger · · Score: 2

    To (miss)quote Mark Twain: Nothing is easier than loosing 70 pounds, I've done it several times ;-).

    Original quote: http://www.goodreads.com/quote...

    Loosing weight is always easy, not picking it up again is the hard part.

  14. Re:It's simple. Eat less and eat less crap by blue9steel · · Score: 2

    You need very little fat. You can cut most of it out and not have any problems (besides hunger).

    Well aside from rabbit starvation if you go too low and the fact that your testosterone production will drop through the floor, but hey who needs to feel good anyways?

  15. Sigh by ledow · · Score: 2

    Eat less.

    Not losing weight?

    Eat less.

    Still not losing weight.

    Eat less.

    Granted, you still want to be having a mix of foods and not just less "burgers and only burgers 24/7", but it's a pretty simple rule to follow.

    So long as you're eating a mix, you won't veer into malnutrition like this unless you ACTUALLY have a medical problem that requires constant treatment.

    Of every person I ever see who diets, or who over-exercises in order to compensate, etc. I'm always just shocked that - rather than follow some faddy diet that's complicated and expensive and has all sorts of problems with it - they don't think to weigh what they eat over the course of a week and eat less the next week.

    1. Re:Sigh by itzly · · Score: 2

      I'm always just shocked that they don't think to weigh what they eat over the course of a week and eat less the next week.

      I'm equally shocked that smokers don't count the cigarettes they smoke in a week, and smoke less the next week.

  16. Re:It's simple. Eat less and eat less crap by itzly · · Score: 2

    Different kinds of fatty acids also also needed as essential building blocks for all kinds of stuff the body needs. Carbs are just for energy.

  17. How I lost weight by EdMcMan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've lost over 45 pounds and kept it off for over three years so far. And best of all, I didn't do it by starving myself.

    I've considered myself overweight for most of my adult and childhood life. Oddly enough, I had always been fairly athletic, and exercised regularly throughout my life. I had strong willpower. But I just couldn't seem to keep weight off.

    I lost my weight by signing up for weight watchers online. Weight watchers online is a program that allows you to conveniently keep track of the food you eat. All of it. I don't think weight watchers is magic; instead, I think the process of making eating a deliberate and measured action is what helped me. I like numbers. I can do numbers.

    What I found by recording everything I ate is that a small number of foods accounted for a large amount of calories. Beef, fries, bread, snacks. I've largely eliminated these foods from my diet. It's not that I can't eat them, I just don't feel that the value is high enough for the calories to eat them a lot. I was able to decrease the number of calories I ate without starving myself by eating smart. The other benefit of recording food is that there are some replacement foods that are significantly healthier. For me, I started snacking more on pretzels, which I found a lot more filling, but contained less calories than many of the other snacks I ate.

    After about a year, I stopped using weight watchers. I had internalized most of the good behaviors, and no longer needed to record everything I ate. I continued to lose weight, slowly but steadily. Eventually I stopped at a healthy weight, and I feel great. Over time, even though I was never starving myself, I started eating higher calorie foods and exercising more regularly to offset it. On that note, for burning calories, exercising longer and with lower intensity is better than short, intense workouts. I like to use the elliptical; I can exercise for 90 minutes without killing myself, and burn over 1000 calories. I've found that playing video games at the same time really distracts me from the act of exercising, and even makes it enjoyable.

    If you're skeptical, and think you know enough about dieting to not record everything, think again. There are simply too many surprises. Go to your favorite restuarant's website and look at the nutrition information. I used to go to Chili's quite often. I haven't been there for a long time. I don't know how they cook their food, but it's insanely high in calories. Even seemingly safe foods like salad can be high in calories depending on the dressing. The opposite is true as well. Some fast food, like KFC, can be very low in calories (although probably bad for other reasons). Over time, you'll learn what fills you up and doesn't have a ton of calories. If you just start "eating less" without any data, you'll still be eating the same inefficient foods, and you'll probably gain your weight back after you can't take it anymore.

  18. Re:Hack your coffee cup ... by CastrTroy · · Score: 2

    Stop using Keurig. I had one, and while I really liked the ease with which I could make a coffee, I decided it was too expensive for the quality of coffee produced. Also, I'm not a big fan of the amount of waste it produces. I got an Aeropress and I'm very happy with my coffee now. It's cheap, tastes good, and produces no garbage. I can use any coffee I want. Clean up is a little more time consuming than with Keurig, but it doesn't really take that much effort.

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  19. Consider the alternative question by Average · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The flip side of the question is "Why are skinny people not fat?".

    It's a more interesting question than you may think. One bit of semi-famous research is the 1970s Vermont 'prisoner overfeeding study' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5Rv8JnFgw4). Like bits of Nazi science, this is probably irreproducible, as it'd *never* get past a human subject review committee today.

    A number of lifetime-normal-weight prisoners were fed substantially over their basal metabolic needs for an extended period. Their input was rigorously controlled (being prisoners), and their exercise regimen was pretty easy to monitor and control. Most of them gained weight, but almost none of them nearly as much as the standard "3500 kCal is a pound of fat" Standard Model would predict. Several plateaued on weight gain, and a few lucky (?) prisoners were *never* able gain 10% of their body weight when eating nearly 10,000 Calories a day. Simply couldn't do it.

    A lot of people are overeating in the western culture. A lot more that, by the numbers, should be in the 300-pound range. And while there are no shortage of very-very-fat people, they're not nearly as common as they should be if you study individual diet patterns. This is part of the problem. People look at their skinny friends' diets, and some of those skinny friends are like the luckier Vermont prisoners.

  20. Re:bacteria reward cycle by courteaudotbiz · · Score: 2

    Well, at least, changing the bacterial flora to make him crave for healthy foods would have been a hack. What the guy did is not a hack in any way.

  21. Re:It's simple. Eat less and eat less crap by fwarren · · Score: 2

    Dr Atkins died because he slipped on an icy sidewalk outside of his New York City office. He later died while in a coma. While in the coma he suffered from swelling. His autopsy shows he had heart damage. This is the headline most people have heard. The full story is that he had heart damage as a young man and the corner did note there was heart damage, but did not attribute it to his diet.

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  22. Temperature regulation for caloric expenditure by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One way to passively burn more energy that I don't see mentioned enough is to simply lower the ambient temperature (and don't add more clothing). Staying in a cooler room (or not using a heavy blanket when sleeping, etc) can use a significant amount of extra energy. Sleeping humans use between 20 and 80 kCal/hour, depending on ambient temperature, blankets, etc. (80-20)*8=480kCal potential burn, per night of sleep. Over the course of a week that's 3360kCal, or nearly a pound of body fat's worth of energy. Use your basal metabolic rate to burn more energy by staying in cooler environments.

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