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NJ School District Hit With Ransomware-For-Bitcoins Scheme

An anonymous reader sends news that unidentified hackers are demanding 500 bitcoins, currently worth about $128,000, from administrators of a New Jersey school district. Four elementary schools in Swedesboro-Woolwich School District, which enroll more than 1,700 students, are now locked out of certain tasks: "Without working computers, teachers cannot take attendance, access phone numbers or records, and students cannot purchase food in cafeterias. Also, [district superintendent Dr. Terry C. Van Zoeren] explained, parents cannot receive emails with students grades and other information." According to this blog post from security company BatBlue, the district has been forced to postpone the Common Core-mandated PARCC state exams, too. Small comfort: "Fortunately the Superintendent told CBS 3’s Walt Hunter the hackers, using a program called Ransomware, did not access any personal information about students, families or teachers." Perhaps the administrators can take heart: Ransomware makers are, apparently, starting to focus more on product support; payment plans are probably on the way.

167 comments

  1. I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...they went after these criminals.

    If our government actually did something about stuff like this, I think people would believe in their government a bit more, but as it stands, it seems like the NSA and such only want to either spy on us or topple governments that don't tow the line for the US.

    I cannot imagine that finding these criminals is beyond the abilities of the US Government, it just seems like they don't even try.

    1. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by OrangeTide · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And why would the NSA potentially reveal the techniques just to capture some crooks? That classified information is surely worth more than the $128K. If it were up to the NSA, they would just pay the ransom and focus on finding terrorists instead.

      --
      “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
    2. Re: I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right?! This is how I feel as well. I also see all kinds of news stories about ISIS stuff on twitter and Facebook and I just think "isn't this your job?!"

    3. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pay one group of terrorists so they can keep searching for another?

    4. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by jeffmeden · · Score: 4, Interesting

      ...they went after these criminals.

      If our government actually did something about stuff like this, I think people would believe in their government a bit more, but as it stands, it seems like the NSA and such only want to either spy on us or topple governments that don't tow the line for the US.

      I cannot imagine that finding these criminals is beyond the abilities of the US Government, it just seems like they don't even try.

      The thing is, if they did, you would never know about it. It may seem like they don't even try, and they might not be, but they could also be defeating 95% of it. With a mission that is by design clandestine, no one may ever know until our kids get a peek at the public records dump 50 years from now.

    5. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except then everyone would flip out because the NSA would be looking at data on people in the US. Which is a no-no.

    6. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      The NSA is a spy agency. You want the FBI, who actually does go after these things.

    7. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And why would the NSA potentially reveal the techniques just to capture some crooks? That classified information is surely worth more than the $128K.

      Maybe, but we're not talking about $128k for one school district, we're talking about hundreds of millions (maybe more) for thousands of individuals and organizations. And that's not even accounting for the cost of the productivity lost by the victims, which is difficult to measure but surely much greater than the ransom amounts.

    8. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by whitroth · · Score: 1

      Sorry, not their job.

      HOWEVER, there's this other three-letter organization whose job it *is*, and who are likely to be all over this one: the FBI.

                  mark "let them do what they're *supposed* to be doing"

    9. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're talking about the public school racket, right?

    10. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

      - Finding these criminals may not help make the computers run again.
      - Finding these criminals may be beyond the abilities of the US Government. The NSA is not all powerful, the simple fact that Snowden's leaks exist prove it.
      - If the criminals are not in the US, this greatly limits the abilities of the US justice.
      - Solving the problem probably involves first paying the ransom.
      - If the NSA actually helps finding the criminals, I seriously doubt it will be public.

    11. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's "toe the line", idiot.

    12. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by invictusvoyd · · Score: 1

      Forget the NSA , take that $128K add some more and hire some really really good hackers .

    13. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by spacepimp · · Score: 1

      So if they caught these asshats the total surveillance state they (the NSA) built is justifiable? The ends justify the means... I can't say I agree with you.

    14. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No the CIA is a spy agency, the NSA does signal intelligence (ie intercepting and decrypting communications).

    15. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      Perhaps "wouldn't mind" is the wrong word.

      Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: I'll bet you're the kind of guy that would fuck a person in the ass and not even have the goddam common courtesy to give him a reach-around.

      We get it, NSA. You're going to break into my computer, spy on everything I do, 24/7, keep me under your microscope. For "national security." Got it. But as long as you're fucking me in the ass...Jesus Christ could you nail the assholes who are holding schools for ransom? Do the whole "at least the trains run on time" thing?

      (I know Mussolini's trains didn't, but...try.)

      --
      We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
    16. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by sjames · · Score: 1

      Well, we know the NSA doesn't mind sharing info w/ the DEA.

      At least they could for once do something helpful. Unlike the DEA cases, there is a high probability that the bad guys are not U.S. citizens or operating within the U.S.

    17. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by sjames · · Score: 1

      No, but the fact that they don't shows that they are fully committed to the idea that American Citizens are the enemy.

    18. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 1

      Fair enough.... My next question is... if the FBI called the NSA and said, "we want to catch these guys, can you help?", would they?

      Should the CIA/NSA/FBI be different agencies, or should they be one with the single goal of protecting Americans against crimes committed while respecting the US Constitution in the process?

    19. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 1

      - Finding these criminals may not help make the computers run again.

      No, but it would prevent them from doing it again.

      - Finding these criminals may be beyond the abilities of the US Government. The NSA is not all powerful, the simple fact that Snowden's leaks exist prove it.

      True, but I'd be shocked if finding THESE SPECIFIC criminals was beyond the US Government.

      - If the criminals are not in the US, this greatly limits the abilities of the US justice.

      If they are US citizens, then they deserve their rights and day in court. If they are not and can be reached by US Justice, then follow that path. If they are beyond the US Justice system, then they are enemies of the state and attacking US citizens is an act of war and the military should deal with them.

      - Solving the problem probably involves first paying the ransom.

      I'd rather spend triple the money to NOT pay the ransom and reformat and reinstall all the computers, and restore from the last good backups.

      - If the NSA actually helps finding the criminals, I seriously doubt it will be public.

      Maybe it should be, it would help their image. Catching the criminals should at least be made public, to let everyone know that crime doesn't pay.

      After all, if you can do this without getting caught, what is to stop 10 more people from doing it?

    20. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 1

      So if they caught these asshats the total surveillance state they (the NSA) built is justifiable? The ends justify the means... I can't say I agree with you.

      I didn't say it was justifiable, I said I wouldn't mind so much...

      While I still would be against it, at least there would be something positive about it. Not everything is black and white.

    21. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by steelfood · · Score: 1

      Even if they're not proactively attacking these malicious internet actors, the least the NSA could do is offer to restore the data from the latest copy in their vaults. Part of computer security is backups, and if they're going to be snooping on your data anyway, they might as well bill it as an automatic backup service.

      But they can't even do that much.

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      "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be."
    22. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How 'bout the NSA doesn't inject code into our software with NSA letters that these guys then build their ransomware around?

      How many of those Microsoft Patches have introduced new time-sensitive security holes for the NSA and US government to use as they please?

      The US government doesn't want inherently secure software or systems for the same reason they'd prefer to tax the living bejessus out of you and make you vote for your flavor of welfare. They want systems that are hard for the average person to figure out and use but not so secure they can't get into them whenever they please. Whenever you look at a ladder logic or block chart diagram and see a black box, someone's pissing in the soup. How do you not get that?

      Every time I go to read Slasdot I have to deal with Trite like this being modded up. How is Slashdot any different than the 4 Companies that make up the Mainstream Media Monopoly at this point? Seriously.

    23. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      The US does not back coups https://www.youtube.com/watch?..., bwa ha ha, except when they do https://www.youtube.com/watch?....

      Now if was done to an insider corporation or corporate executive, you can bet, they all would go all out to track the criminals down and have it solved in short order.

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      Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
    24. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are more concerned with preventing copyright infringement, they would rather you not have access to a pirated movie rather than be protected from such attacks such as ones that encrypt critical data or block access to your computer. After all when they actually have to do work that wont pay them a big bonus they are not as willing to do it.

    25. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...they went after these criminals.

      If our government actually did something about stuff like this, I think people would believe in their government a bit more, but as it stands, it seems like the NSA and such only want to either spy on us or topple governments that don't tow the line for the US.

      I cannot imagine that finding these criminals is beyond the abilities of the US Government, it just seems like they don't even try.

      What I expected you to write was that the govt could offer to decrypt all the encrypted files, since they have all the necessary keys.

    26. Re:I wouldn't mind the NSA so much if... by Cito · · Score: 1

      I can tell you exactly how to solve this problem.

      First send me 500 bitcoins, then I'll tell you. :-P

  2. Foolish Hackers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't they know that NJ is insolvent?

  3. ransomware instead of fake bomb threats? by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    used to get fake threats during exams. this ain't a fake.

  4. PII is safe - whew! by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2

    >> the Superintendent (said) the hackers did not access any personal information about students, families or teachers

    He knows this because the hackers told him?

    1. Re:PII is safe - whew! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I particularly like the comment on payment-plans. Hey, at least the hackers know we're hitting on hard times.

    2. Re:PII is safe - whew! by DroolTwist · · Score: 2

      If they wait a week or two, the value of 500 BTC might be down to around $7000 USD.

    3. Re:PII is safe - whew! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He knows this because that isn't how Cryptowall ("a program called Ransomware") works. It shows up on your computer(s) via poor user behavior, encrypts a bunch of things, and directs you to a payment site. You pay up, you receive the decryption key, and the same malware that fucked you over undoes the damage and restores your files. I have yet to hear about any of these assholes making any attempt to exfiltrate data out of a victim network. They don't care about your data, they just want your money.

      Tor or not, bitcoin or not, Russia/Eastern Bloc or not, this stuff can be traced and it's ridiculous that the fuckers behind this are still walking free.

    4. Re:PII is safe - whew! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hi knows this because that's the way ransom ware works. It doesn't generally give the crooks access to files, rather it encrypts them and demands money.

  5. How many computers can you buy for $128k? by OrangeTide · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe 200-500 computers. Is the ransom higher than what it would cost to replace everything? (maybe not enough to replace them with Macs, but Linux and Chromebooks are possible). How many computers does a district with 1700 students really need to get the basics done?

    Just seems like a steep ransom to me. Especially since if I replaced all the computers, the old equipment is worth something and I could probably auction it off.

    The data is gone if you don't pay the ransom (or crack the encryption). Sadly I don't have a way to resolve that problem, other than to start over again and hopefully anything important has backups. (ideally in a form that doesn't spread infection)

    --
    “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
    1. Re:How many computers can you buy for $128k? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Buying new computers seems a bit excessive when you can just wipe and start from scratch.

    2. Re:How many computers can you buy for $128k? by ThatsMyNick · · Score: 1

      They are ransoming the data, not the computer. The computers can simply be reinstalled by an hourly contractor to get rid the ransomware. The data on the other hand, cannot be recovered.

    3. Re:How many computers can you buy for $128k? by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      So their only copy of the student roster is gone? they can't even take attendance? they don't have back-ups?

      Surely this is a problem that can be solved with money, and significantly less than $128K. (the point of my original post, I wasn't suggesting we actually replace all the computers, just that the ransom seemed a bit high)

      --
      “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
    4. Re:How many computers can you buy for $128k? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Backups dipshit. Restore from backups. Bare-metal if you have to. You have backups, right?

    5. Re:How many computers can you buy for $128k? by jeffmflanagan · · Score: 1

      Why would they replace the computers? You just restore from backup, or worst-case reinstall the OS from scratch, block Flash so they don't get reinfected, and you're done.

    6. Re:How many computers can you buy for $128k? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So their only copy of the student roster is gone? they can't even take attendance? they don't have back-ups?

      Surely this is a problem that can be solved with money, and significantly less than $128K. (the point of my original post, I wasn't suggesting we actually replace all the computers, just that the ransom seemed a bit high)

      Of course it could resolved in the future by protecting and doing proper backups. But it wouldn't solve the issue right now. The data is encrypted which means unless you can coerce those responsible into giving you the decryption keys you can consider the data lost.

    7. Re:How many computers can you buy for $128k? by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

      You obviously have never worked for a school district. $128K is enough to buy like 50 refurbished windows XP computers, with 20 year warranties.

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      Troll is not a replacement for I disagree.
    8. Re:How many computers can you buy for $128k? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would you replace the hardware. It's not like the ransomware has damaged it.

    9. Re:How many computers can you buy for $128k? by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      But is the data even worth $128K? It's not like schools don't already annoy parents with redundant requests and useless information. Having everyone register for school again would at least allow attendance to happen.

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      “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
    10. Re:How many computers can you buy for $128k? by citizenr · · Score: 1

      backups? what backups? AHAHAHAHA

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      Who logs in to gdm? Not I, said the duck.
    11. Re:How many computers can you buy for $128k? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BACKUPS? You mean spare chalk and erasers? This is a pile of college graduates with EDUCATION degrees, you think they know the first thing about making backups much less how one would restore one if they had it?

    12. Re:How many computers can you buy for $128k? by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      Actually I have been an IT contractor for a school district, that was my third job. But back then $128K could buy a lot of ARCnet adapters and NetWare licenses.

      --
      “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
    13. Re:How many computers can you buy for $128k? by guruevi · · Score: 1

      Why do you need to replace the computers? Wipe them and reinstall them. They do have backups of their important data on non-Windows-systems don't they?

      Reason #2 why you don't have your backup systems connected into Craptive Directory (#1 being that if your directory needs to be restored, you should be able to login to your backup system).

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  6. These movie villians by shadowrat · · Score: 1

    why didn't they just install some mining software? Sure, it's going to take a while to mine 500 bitcoins, but nobody would have ever known they were there. Instead they take the showboating route. it's like they need to know people know about them to stroke their egos. I bet they deliver some bloated soliloquy at a key moment and ruin their entire plan.

    1. Re:These movie villians by itzly · · Score: 1

      It would take forever to mine 500 bitcoins on regular PCs.

    2. Re:These movie villians by jeffmflanagan · · Score: 1

      Yep, even with a whole school full of computers you couldn't compete with dedicated mining devices.

    3. Re:These movie villians by RavenLrD20k · · Score: 2

      I bet they deliver some bloated soliloquy at a key moment and ruin their entire plan

      Not if they're being led by Veidt. Then you get the bloated soliloquy 30 minutes after the plan was executed.

  7. Reveal what? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Why would the NSA have to reveal anything? I'm imagine they are "taken care of" in a way that means revealing nothing.

    We're already assassinating leaders of terrorist groups. I don't know why ransomware rings affecting government institutions would not qualify.

    --
    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:Reveal what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since the NSA is already above the law, they could just go straight to
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber-hose_cryptanalysis

    2. Re:Reveal what? by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 1

      Why would the NSA have to reveal anything? I'm imagine they are "taken care of" in a way that means revealing nothing.

      So you have no philosophical objection the the NSA acting completely outside the law, as long as they're doing things you approve of?

    3. Re:Reveal what? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      So you have no philosophical objection the the NSA acting completely outside the law

      Everyone else is acting completely outside the law these days, and the law has been built up over time to give too many protections to guilty people, so I've pretty much stopped caring.

      My objections are on the level of "well, I wouldn't do it personally, but whatever".

      Especially for the guys that encrypt other people's data and ransom that. Who cares what happens to those jerks.

      --
      "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  8. Disaster Recovery? by Grisstle · · Score: 2

    No backup system to restore from? Systems linked that should not be linked together? As for classroom computers, fuck it, reimage those suckers. This should not be happening and in the IT dept. heads need to roll. I'm head of IT for a school board and I'm telling you that this should not have happened or at the very least the affected number of computers should be much lower.

    1. Re:Disaster Recovery? by slashmydots · · Score: 2, Informative

      In case you're not familiar, let me give you the breakdown. The worst educated, fat, smoking, abrasive personality, asshole nurses work at kidney dialysis places. That's simply where the worst possible employees end up from that career field. The worst IT workers end up at schools. It's low pay and higher demand than corporate environments, the budget is a joke, and they're perpetually understaffed. So you get some clueless moron who can't hold down a real job working as the IT administrator at any given school.

    2. Re:Disaster Recovery? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not accurate. It's not the IT worker being a clueless moron. You can have highly qualified people who, for one reason or another, have no better option than to work for schools. Not everyone is able or willing to move their family across the country just for the sake of chasing a job. The problem is that they may know exactly what they need to do, but be prevented by the clueless bureaucrats above them.

      Maybe the IT staff WANTED to put backups in place, but were told there was no money to do that. Maybe there really WAS no money to do that. Maybe everyone involved had the best intentions, but simply could not afford to do it the right way. That's how life works sometimes.

      Life is not a fairy tale. You can't just wave a magic wand to make infinite resources appear.

    3. Re:Disaster Recovery? by Grisstle · · Score: 1

      True enough, but there are open source resources out there. Clonzilla for imaging and lets be honest here, the desktops the students use should be imaged, it's not difficult to manage and it's the best response infection as far as cost goes. Money can be an issue for sure and bureaucracy can get in the way of best practices. But there should be system separation. The computers the kids use should not be using the same resources as the student data system, the cafeteria system should also be isolated. But all that said, the fact is if this happened to my school board, I would be out of a job.

    4. Re:Disaster Recovery? by Grisstle · · Score: 1

      That is a lot of incorrect assumptions there. We have bright technicians working for us, we have enough staff to stay on top of things, we offer competitive pay with benefits and matched pension contribution and generous time off. We expect a lot from our staff and we get a lot in return. Higher demand than corporate? Bullshit, complete bullshit. I'm sure there are some grossly under-funded school boards out there, but mine isn't one of them. Sounds like you're the one that needs the breakdown because you haven't got a clue. I'll give you points for a good troll though, you actually put a little effort into that one.

    5. Re:Disaster Recovery? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That happens too. You tell them what you need to do. They tell you that you can't do it. It hits the fan, then they fire you for not doing what they wouldn't let you do.

    6. Re:Disaster Recovery? by Pumpkin+Tuna · · Score: 1

      That was my thinking. We routinely back up the important stuff in my district. This would have been a headache, but the data would have been reasonably safe.

    7. Re:Disaster Recovery? by Pumpkin+Tuna · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I work on the instructional tech side of the house, but our engineers are good and would not get caught like this. We aren't invulnurable, but we have contingencies.

    8. Re:Disaster Recovery? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem is with the extreme underfunding for schools, a router that does network segments may not be in the budget, even if it is a cast-off PC with a bunch of NICs in it running as a router.

      Sometimes schools can get good talent. Other times, they can't, and the school admins oftentimes don't know good IT people from bad.

      Running a school's infrastructure isn't easy, because it has the most security threats of almost any organization out there (from the inside and outside), but this is not rocket science:

      1: Machines used by students get managed by Faronics's DeepFreeze and additional utilities (unauthorized application blocking, etc.) They are configured to reboot if idle every few hours, and automatically fetch patches. The machines managing this are tucked away in a section of the school quite far from where students usually travel, so the kid with the lockpick set isn't going to have himself a field day [1].

      Other management items are needed as well. SCOM and SCCM go without saying.

      2: Students have high turnover, so their accounts always have an expiration date. I would say AD is a must here, because any unexpired accounts will be used and abused, and AD is excellent at dealing with large numbers of users.

      3: Because students shoulder surf, 2FA or a card reader should be considered for staff/faculty. Preferably some mechanism of auto-locking the screen if the card is pulled out of the reader. Aladdin/SafeNet eTokens come to mind, since they just need a USB port to work.

      4: CCTV is also a must. Keeps the honest honest... and the bad kids in juvi.

      5: Isolation and router ACLs. The cafeteria should only allow connections to what it needs to (card processing, ordering supplies, etc.) Even though MAC locking isn't really secure, it should be done to keep someone from pulling a cable from a cash register and plugging in a laptop to try "hacking" from there.

      6: BlueCoat active MITM functionality. No, this is not something I am proud of recommending, but because schools are political hotspots, having the ability to record and decode SSL traffic (blocking all that isn't decryptable) is a necessary evil for a public school. Of course, this means the device needs to be secured, but the management ports should be on a physically isolated network, only accessible from a few physical locations, and nowhere near a Wi-Fi AP.

      7: Stick the sensitive stuff behind a Windows RDP or Citrix gateway. This way, data and student records can be -accessed-, but not copied, manipulated, or tampered with other than through the front-end interface. It also limits what a student can do if they get access to a teacher's or staff's machine.

      8: Two accounts for the domain admins. Their account as a user, and their "su" account with full domain rights, perhaps using a SecurID tag for 2FA everywhere. Defense in depth.

      9: Clonezilla doesn't scale. You need PXE and WIM images, so a machine can be booted, reimaged, and ready to go in 30-45 minutes with all the school applications and security software present.

      10: An IDS/IPS goes without saying. This way, when little Johnny is running LOIC because he doesn't like a local merchant's website, it gets found out, the user and computer noted, and the network access yanked. This way, when Johnny's parents, Joe Sixpack and Jane Ativan threaten to sue the school district, they can be presented with a log of how many packets, what the application was, proof that Johnny was at that computer. I've had a simple screenshot of a Splunk dashboard stop someone's tomfoolery in their tracks.

      This really doesn't take that many employees. I'd say an operator level person on site, and the schools can be pretty much adminned from the central school district HQ via management tools like chef/puppet/splunk/SCOM/SCCM/etc.

      [1]: A room on a completely different set of keys as the rest of the building comes to mind... preferably using Abloy PROTEC2 locks with a custom keyway by name. Some wannabe locksmi

    9. Re:Disaster Recovery? by Grisstle · · Score: 1

      We are just too small for much of that. Clonezilla works for us because we can do a whole lab at once (our biggest school is a couple hundred kids, our smallest is about 60). Our schools are geographically spread out and remote. We don't have the budget for deepfreeze, let alone Config Manager. We don't have a huge budget but we get by, we take the financial resources we have and pour that into talented techs. We use Squid/squidguard/dansguardian for filtering/caching to save money, we get computers from free programs that redistribute government computers (we get modern machines like i5). Believe me, that all sounds fantastic but we have to make due with much much less and we do. This situation in NJ didn't need to be this way. You've got the right idea and I don't disagree with much other than the MITM stuff, but we will likely never see the money for those kinds of resources. We had a budget for deepfreeze but then we got our gov't funding reduced a bit and it was the first to go.

    10. Re:Disaster Recovery? by Grisstle · · Score: 1

      I don't know what motivates a comment like that. Trolling? Meh, I know the truth about how much I make and my benefits so at the end of the day I'm smiling. Ignorance? Possible, I'm Canadian, maybe where he is that is the norm, but it's not here. Bitterness/Resentment? Maybe he's Geeksquad and it makes him feel better to try to belittle someone else's career. In any case, this situation had the potential to be much smaller and much less of a problem.

    11. Re:Disaster Recovery? by slashmydots · · Score: 1

      This guy's personality and attitude is exactly the type of IT worker that works in a school IT department. He's an angry, combative jackass who can't get along with society in general.

    12. Re:Disaster Recovery? by Grisstle · · Score: 1

      Says the guy that is exactly as I suspected. You're a tech working in a shop. At best you own a shop. Do you sell office furniture to prop up your failing business as Walmart undercuts your sales? What did you expect. You took off the wall potshots at a guy working a career, when your just a pup working a job. We get guys like you all the time applying, thinking they know everything, thinking they are IT geniuses, who can't see their own weaknesses. Desperate to get out of sales, running simple automated tools and "building pc". Nothing wrong with starting out there, but you strike me as a lifer, if it weren't for the fact that independent shops have a bleak future. But yeah, tell me where your shop is and I'll take you out for lunch and offer some career coaching while I'm off for the summer...paid time off.

    13. Re:Disaster Recovery? by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 1

      People are going to disagree with you, but this is true. Universities employ some good people, but K-12 education is the absolute bottom of the barrel for IT staff. The schools that buck this trend are few and very far between.

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    14. Re:Disaster Recovery? by guruevi · · Score: 1

      Backups can be cheap/free. With some imagination and extra work I ran a design department without any dedicated server or backup hardware (a large company where requisitioning a server needed board approval which only met once every 6 months - they failed shortly after I left).

      The entire 'cloud' hype has shown us that you can run storage over hundreds of nodes with a large number of them that could suddenly fail. Desktops all have at least 50GB-1TB of free space and could thus act as a simple storage node.

      The problem IS clueless IT people. These people that come out of school and have programmer jobs or IT administrative duties but couldn't code their way out of a box with LOGO.

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    15. Re:Disaster Recovery? by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, the people that most school districts can afford don't know what any of the stuff you just mentioned actually is. Most of the people willing to do IT for $15/hr. are the kind of people who list "good with computers" on their resume and think that tinkering with AD makes them qualified to work as a system administrator.

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    16. Re:Disaster Recovery? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you're just bitter about never getting a call back from the elementary school you applied to work for.

    17. Re:Disaster Recovery? by Grisstle · · Score: 1

      I don't know of any school boards in my province that pay so little. We pay on the upper end at about $50k for technicians and that's salary not hourly. We were only paying $35k three years ago, but we couldn't get staff to stick around longer than a couple years for the experience. Our technicians need to be skilled but they don't touch AD or any of the back end systems other than for backup and other standard ops stuff. We do require college grads and proof they can think for themselves though.

  9. Seriously NJ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OMG, the computerz, they iz broked! What will we do?

    Without computers, teachers cannot take attendance, access phone numbers or records, or email grades to parents? Whatever happened to good old pen and paper? provide or have the teachers buy a few notebooks. Write things down. Send the kids home with their graded tests to be signed by the parents.

    Do things the old fashioned way for a few days until the system can be restored from backups. You DO back up your records, don't you?

    Can't buy lunch? Seriously? Are your cafeteria staff that poorly educated that they can't do the simple mental math to give change without a register telling them how much to give?

    Pathetic.

    1. Re:Seriously NJ? by ralphsiegler · · Score: 1

      Those aren't cash registers. Outside food service has account for each student, that parents have to keep stoked with money. The students just type in PIN to have meal charged. They can't distribute lunch and charge that account is the issue. In this pinch the food service could just bring over printout of account balances and write in amount for the day next to it, then take back to HQ for reckoning...a PITA but oh well that's what careless IT admin buys you

    2. Re:Seriously NJ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't buy lunch? Seriously? Are your cafeteria staff that poorly educated that they can't do the simple mental math to give change without a register telling them how much to give?

      I'm guessing it's a bit more than that. They probably have a cashless (or mostly cashless) system where kids just swipe cards and it's deducted from their account. Also, it's probably the same sort of issue for kids that are on lunch assistance programs

    3. Re:Seriously NJ? by Tailhook · · Score: 3

      a PITA but oh well that's what careless IT admin buys you

      Yeah. Careless IT people.

      Nothing to do with unreasonable faculty demanding those peon IT people give them wireless and remote access to everything using their iphone/pad, android and infected eight different ways home peecee without the slightest friction or impediment. Probably has nothing to do with the IT budget that gets grudgingly funded only after the quarterly pension COLA bump and the administrative bonuses are paid out, ensuring the whole system relies on a wheezing 12 year old sonicwall appliance. That couldn't have anything to do with it. It's got to be those fools in IT.

      On the other hand, the IT staff probably is the direct result of a hiring policy that has actual knowledge and talent waaay down the list of qualifications after race, sex, sexuality, disability and every other imagined grievance they can dream up. That and they're almost certainly terrified of touching the slightest thing lest they interfere with the $240k/year politically connected hypercrat in district HQ that spends nine hours a day surfing porn.

      School districts in places like NJ are pretty dysfunctional institutions. Pinning this kind of failure on the IT peons alone is badly naive.

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    4. Re:Seriously NJ? by Grisstle · · Score: 1

      But you know that's exactly who it will be pinned on.

    5. Re:Seriously NJ? by ralphsiegler · · Score: 1

      Do you have a shred of evidence that this is the case with this school, or do you spew bile because of some perceived injustice in your life?

    6. Re:Seriously NJ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While a lot of your comments are wild speculation, you did touch on a subject that I felt deserved greater recognition: unreasonable faculty. More specifically, unreasonable administrators.

      I've been technology director for two schools now in Minnesota over the last 10 years. This year, I'm under a new superintendent who is forcing me to throw away HP switches that aren't even two years old, because "None of it is working" and "Cisco is the only real good solution." And now she's targeting all our wi-fi equipment, also only two years old, Ruckus AP & controllers, for the same reasons. We're throwing away $35,000 of equipment and dropping another $180,000 on new Cisco gear. (Which, by the way, Joe Taxpayer is paying $90,000 of which through the eRate program. Thanks, Joe.) She is convinced that we have a cart of 30 laptops that "Hasn't been used for over two months and is just sitting there." She's called me an embarrassment to my profession, has methods of indirectly casting blame on me at staff meetings, and there is just no reasoning with her.

      Even with competent IT staff, administrators make decisions that have huge impacts in a district.

      (And just to finish by staying on subject, I've had computers hit twice this year with Cryptoware. Staff accounts are not administrator accounts, and their redirected folders were all that were encrypted. I restore their personal folders and files from backup on the server, and they're operational again. I can only guess some part time tech was web surfing on the file server. Doesn't have to be porn, though; last year my son had his computer hit up while he was watching CoD vids.)

    7. Re:Seriously NJ? by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 1

      WRITE TO YOUR GOVERNOR! Explain the situation and how you've found a way to save thousands of taxpayer dollars, they'll be eager to hear about that.

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    8. Re:Seriously NJ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you have a shred of evidence that this is the case with this school, or do you spew bile because of some perceived injustice in your life?

      Well, he was doing pretty good until this:

      On the other hand, the IT staff probably is the direct result of a hiring policy that has actual knowledge and talent waaay down the list of qualifications after race, sex, sexuality, disability and every other imagined grievance they can dream up.

      That revealed that his pussy hurts and his tender & precious feelings are all bruised too.

  10. Perfect time to consider paradigm shift by See+Attached · · Score: 1

    This is a great time to consider swapping out Windows-centric systems and making the break for the cloud and open source toolsets. There, I said it. The only thing lacking in this niche is inertia, but.. soon the schools will figure out that the students are intelligent and can be involved in the configuration/maintenance. Ok. well..maybe not K-12, but quite possibly grades 9-12. Whats local doesn't matter - this changes so much. Put data in a school cloud, and the schools will become just another place that hooks into the cloud resources. The pendulum swings again!

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    1. Re:Perfect time to consider paradigm shift by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      And it's even a better time to learn about backups, redundant systems and testing. No matter what your system is computer, papyrus, chiseled rock, something is going to come along and screw it up. If you need the data to keep doing your job, you need some sort of backup system.

      And especially if it is a computer system connected to the Internet.

      You can lose your lunch money on an open source system just as well as a proprietary one.

      Murphy cares not for your screed.

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  11. No backups?? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I can't understand in a case like this why they can't restore the system from some earlier backup (well, I can, but it seems absurd they are not able to).

    If nothing else just whip the system and re-install software. It seems like they could recover email addresses from servers the emails went through before... perhaps they would be without some records but you can't go on like this. Even if you pay the demands and unlock everything you'd have to reinstall everything from scratch anyway.

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  12. Backups by David_Hart · · Score: 1

    It sounds like this is something would would be noticed shortly after they were locked out. If so, then why not just recover from nightly backups to the point prior to being locked out. You shouldn't lose much data, if any, assuming that it was caught right after being locked out.

    Of course, this all falls down if they weren't doing proper backups.

    1. Re:Backups by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 2

      If you talk to a school administrator and ask them to recover from the nightly backups, you are likely to get a blank stare back.
      School districts and schools couldn't be worse set up to deal with complex system recovery.

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    2. Re:Backups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What if they pulled their good backup tapes off the shelf, plugged them into one of their infected, online desktops, and the tapes got re-encrypted? Repeat as necessary until there are no more tapes. Then ask another IT admin for help, and learn about write-protect tabs too late for this time.

      [ I wish I could say I hadn't seen this before ]

  13. Linux? OS X? Chrome OS? Nope. OpenBSD! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    With every passing day and every new incident, it becomes clearer and clearer that we really have only one option when it comes to operating system software: OpenBSD.

    OpenBSD has proven itself, over many years, to be extraordinarily secure and robust. The OpenBSD developers don't treat security as an afterthought; it's their primary concern. That's why it's such a solid OS, and about as secure as one could ever hope to get.

    While it isn't always possible to retroactively fix mistakes, like using non-OpenBSD operating systems, it's always possible to do things properly going forward. That's why anyone who is implementing a computer system or network of any kind needs to do the responsible thing, and use OpenBSD.

    OpenBSD is the only option at this point. Pretty much every other major OS out there has shown that it can't reliably stand against the kind of threats that OpenBSD defeats with ease.

    OpenBSD really is the only sensible choice.

    1. Re:Linux? OS X? Chrome OS? Nope. OpenBSD! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh B.S. Any Linux OS will prevent this from happening. M$ should be held liable for this kind of crap. It's only going to get worse until A: they fix winblows (which will never happen), or B: they install Linux.

    2. Re:Linux? OS X? Chrome OS? Nope. OpenBSD! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      OpenBSD is a great option for a school, because the safest computer is one where there is no software for it at all.

      But having no computers is still cheaper and more secure.

    3. Re:Linux? OS X? Chrome OS? Nope. OpenBSD! by MouseTheLuckyDog · · Score: 1

      ASN Linux with SELinux running in nonpermissive mode.

    4. Re:Linux? OS X? Chrome OS? Nope. OpenBSD! by MouseTheLuckyDog · · Score: 1

      Lest anyone think there is a distro called ASN, that is a typo for "any".

    5. Re:Linux? OS X? Chrome OS? Nope. OpenBSD! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No it's the fault of system administrator and school administrators. Allowing the use of administrative level permissions even once for non-system administrators is probably the problem.

      That being said... OpenBSD is a compelling solution.

    6. Re:Linux? OS X? Chrome OS? Nope. OpenBSD! by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      TIL OpenBSD has built in anti-trojan tools, and the ability to secure browsers from their own memory corruption holes! WOW!

    7. Re:Linux? OS X? Chrome OS? Nope. OpenBSD! by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      SELinux stops all memory exploit mechanisms? Thats AMAZING.

    8. Re:Linux? OS X? Chrome OS? Nope. OpenBSD! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OpenBSD is king when it comes to security. I would love to have Linux or a BSD as the de facto OS. But good luck getting HelloKittyFunTimeMath.exe to run flawlessly on it. The most difficult part of working IT in a school district is that part of your job is to sabotage your own system with poorly made software. If you refuse to install those horrendous educational programs you are seen as "inhibiting children's futures". Accept, and you'll have to debug the same faulty programs over...and over...and over.

      There would be blood in the streets if we installed anything other than Windows on school computers. ("Oh God! The bar is a different color!! What's happening?! It's the end of times! Where's the big e?! The Internet is gone!!")

      Ah well, the pay is good, the job security is unmatched, and I get a few weeks off for Christmas.

    9. Re: Linux? OS X? Chrome OS? Nope. OpenBSD! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't see how you can say that Linux is in the same league as OpenBSD, unless you're totally ignorant. While OpenBSD's source had been thoroughly reviewed and screened for security flaws, all major Linux distros today come with systemd. In case you aren't aware, systemd is immature code, still under heavy development, and it hasn't undergone the strict review that OpenBSD's code has. That's ignoring the many bugs and serious problems that have already been reported by systemd users. Until systemd is removed from a major Linux distro, I would consider that distro to be less secure than even a Windows system.

    10. Re:Linux? OS X? Chrome OS? Nope. OpenBSD! by jgtg32a · · Score: 1

      Do you have a link to their home page? I'm having trouble finding the "Any" distro of linux.

    11. Re:Linux? OS X? Chrome OS? Nope. OpenBSD! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They make medications for a lot of things, but not for stupidity.

    12. Re: Linux? OS X? Chrome OS? Nope. OpenBSD! by FreeUser · · Score: 1

      Until systemd is removed from a major Linux distro, I would consider that distro to be less secure than even a Windows system.

      Some Poettering apologist will probably mark you as a troll, but for completeness there are a number of distros that default to non-systemd init architectures, including but not limited to

      Calculate, Gentoo, Funtoo, Source Mage, Dyson, indeed all kinds of distros either default or support running a systemd-free system.

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    13. Re: Linux? OS X? Chrome OS? Nope. OpenBSD! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's fantastic. You've listed Gentoo, and a bunch of no-name distros. Why the fuck should I trust any of the no-name distros you listed? How do I know those projects will still exist next month? At least we have a minimal level of trust and some guarantee that the project will be around next month when we use one of the major distros. Even distros like Gentoo and Slackware are questionable, though.

    14. Re:Linux? OS X? Chrome OS? Nope. OpenBSD! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't remember the link right now, but go to google, click on the search box, type "linux", then press any key.

  14. Need Computers? by Murdoch5 · · Score: 1

    It's funny that schools got along without computers for thousands of years, now all of a sudden they're required. Well how about going the non electronic route until the problem is solved...... not that hard to figure out.

    1. Re:Need Computers? by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

      It's funny that schools got along without computers for thousands of years, now all of a sudden they're required. Well how about going the non electronic route until the problem is solved...... not that hard to figure out.

      They can and will. The issue is not the current ability to keep track of things but having to update the electronic records once the system is back. The electronic record is used to compile transcript, verify required attendance, select valedictorians, etc. Depending on how long it takes to restore from a backup it will take a while to catchup. Now, if the system lost the master records then they have a much bigger problem but even then a proper backup scheme would minimize the impact of such a loss.

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    2. Re:Need Computers? by Murdoch5 · · Score: 1

      The master records should never reside at the school or even the school board in the first place, thanks to nightly back ups and redundant copies of critical data, they have nothing to worry about. As for catching up once the system is unlocked, that is just simply a case of data entry, which is time consuming but can get done if you just do it, so again, no real issue. The software should be flexible enough to not care when the data gets entered so that shouldn't be an issue and if it is, time to look for new software. So if everything really does to hell in a hand basket, it all doesn't matter because you can go at it manually.

  15. I have a solution by slashmydots · · Score: 3, Funny

    The US government needs to immediately make it illegal to pay these types of ransoms. You have no idea what group is collecting the money or what they're going to do with it so just simply make it illegal. That will stop most of these ransoms from happening.

    1. Re:I have a solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Extortion is already illegal.

    2. Re:I have a solution by oodaloop · · Score: 2

      Indeed, once something is made illegal, no one ever does it again!

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    3. Re:I have a solution by slashmydots · · Score: 1

      Indeed, once something is made illegal, no one ever does it again!

      ...while the media is focused on them

    4. Re:I have a solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So is reading apparently. He said PAY THESE TYPES OF RANSOMS.

    5. Re:I have a solution by sjames · · Score: 1

      The hope is that the schools, law abiding individuals and corporations will obey the law and not pay (admittedly, the corporations might be problematic, not a lot of respect for law there).

      The idea is that if the targets won't pay because they aren't willing to break the law, then the crooks end up with an all risk but no reward scenario and move on to something else.

    6. Re:I have a solution by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 1

      They really do, though. It's only a matter of time before governments start paying out these randoms using taxpayer funds to cover up the cost of IT staff incompetence. If it were illegal to pay them out then we'd see more idiots get fired and more competent people hired to clean up the mess instead of paying randsom money to shady criminals.

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    7. Re:I have a solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that comment supports your position how?

  16. Computers not needed for any of that shit by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

    None of what they are unable to do now even requires computers. Just get out your fucking pencils and carry on.

  17. How is this any different from what Microsoft? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My wife's district uses Microsoft Dynamics, and the piece of garbage, that has never printed a correct pay check, lost its activation so the district could no longer print pay checks, accept payments for lunch, pay bills, etc.. They couldn't even look-up contact info for vendors to call them to give them a heads-up about the late payments. Microsoft really fucks over people with their activation garbage. This isn't like the rest of us that have to suffer with the Office garbage losing its activation so we can't open a Word doc. This is Microsoft holding large organizations hostage with demands for more money. They changed their support fees after the fact. I'm still trying to fix the problems caused with my wife's delayed deposit and NSF fees.

    1. Re:How is this any different from what Microsoft? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This! My taxes are due in less than a month, but I haven't received a 1099 yet. I work for a Microsoft-related company so they were forced to use Dynamics. The company switched to a volume license and the Microsoft Certified Partner now can't get Dynamics to start. Even stranger is that with the Dynamics crap, you don't activate the software. You activate the database. That means if you have several companies sharing the same database, a single activation problem will cause Microsoft to not allow any of the companies to do work. Because Microsoft's attempt at an SQL server costs $55k for the somewhat Enterprise edition, we share a database with five other companies. Microsoft doesn't allow any of them to use Dynamics because of our activation problem. We've been keeping accounting on paper since Jan 15 when this happened.

    2. Re:How is this any different from what Microsoft? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      MBAs worry so much about risk, but then they bet the entire business on Microsoft's activation system not losing its activation. How stupid do you have to be to intentionally have your business depend on something that could at any minute decide to stop running? It's bad enough having Microsoft lock-out individual computers and applications due to their activation bugs, but your accounting system? And, I know from experience with a previous employer that Dynamics activates the central database instead of individual clients. That means, for example where I worked before, all five accounting employees were locked-out at the same time. We couldn't pay bills for three weeks until we finally got a MCP to fly out to fix it. Microsoft required us to pay someone over $350 per hour to fix the activation problem. They wouldn't talk us through the process. Of course that cost was nothing compared to late fees and pissed off employees that didn't get paid because of Microsoft.

    3. Re:How is this any different from what Microsoft? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That pretty much sums it up. Ransomeware from M$, or from a virus, same thing. Smart people ditch it and get Linux.

    4. Re:How is this any different from what Microsoft? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would you need the "Enterprise Edition" just for Dynamix? Did your DB have over 10GB worth of data in it? No? Then load the free edition. If you did there are a variety of editions that cost less than the "Enterprise Edition" by orders of magnitude.

    5. Re:How is this any different from what Microsoft? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > over 10GB worth of data in it? No?

      It sounds like you haven't used Dynamics in a few years. Now even my smallest customers blow past Microsoft's artificial limit before they even start using it. They bang into Express's tiny 10 GB limit during the setup. Dynamics stores attachments in the database so even only a thousand scanned contracts at 10 Mbytes each forces them to give Microsoft another $60,000.

      Plus, the online indexing changes and schema updates that Microsoft doesn't allow you to use unless you're running the Enterprise edition is pretty necessary for Dynamics. I've had customers down for days and unable to run payroll because the Standard and Express editions can not be used when a Dynamics update makes a schema or index change. It sucks that this feature exists in the product, but Microsoft doesn't allow you to use it.

    6. Re:How is this any different from what Microsoft? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did your DB have over 10GB worth of data in it? No?

      A very common use case for Dynamics is for a business's CPA to host it. It's so big and complicated (and broken) that it makes sense to sell it as SaaS. I help manage an installation that runs four big database servers with about a dozen clients per database server. All the database servers are running Enterprise, because of the amount of data and a few nice features it adds. It's easier to manage fewer servers than more so it makes sense despite the huge amount of money we send to Microsoft every month.

      Also, the other poster is correct about attachments. After several bad experiences with SharePoint, most of our customers use the accounting system to store documents. That's the main reason the databases are so big.

  18. Purchase Order by magarity · · Score: 1

    Make the attackers go through the school district's purchase order approval process to get their money. The computers will be restored in a few months with no payout.

  19. CryptoWall? by iMouse · · Score: 1

    This suspiciously sounds like CryptoWall. I'd be willing to bet that an admin or other highly privileged user got infected and had the keys to the kingdom sitting on a mounted network drive.

  20. delayed common core! by rogoshen1 · · Score: 1

    I think they'd come out ahead if they nixed the testing, and used the savings to pay the ransom -- and in the intervening period actually teach the kids. As in teach, not teach to the test.

  21. Take a page from the Ransom movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's a better idea, offer a bounty of $50k to pwn the shit out of these little script kiddies. I am sure that with enough eyes in the hacker community on the Ransomware and the vector used to deliver it they could out the perpetrators. Once the perpetrators are identified (in some backwater 3rd world country no doubt) offer the other $200k to Blackwater or other mercenary groups to go in and "liquidate" with extreme prejudice. Make sure that it makes the headlines in international news that a "Ransomware group got whacked" There's no way that a public school would do this, but if businesses start to get hit, you can bet that a scenario like this will play out. Once word gets out that doing this shit will get you killed, it will end, much like the Somali pirates after the US navy got involved.

    1. Re:Take a page from the Ransom movie by spauldo · · Score: 1

      Businesses are being hit. Quite a few are paying the ransom. They lose more money by not being able to work than they have to pay to the asshats.

      Steve Gibson talked about it a lot on the Security Now! podcast a few months ago.

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  22. Hey, I'm not a terrorist.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm a legitimate businessman!

  23. Why is this news? by vjlen · · Score: 1

    Oh look, Cryptowall/Cryptolocker hits a school/business/home/whatever.

    Shoulda had AV installed. Shoulda had backups.

    1. Re:Why is this news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Should not be doing anything with Administrator-level logons

  24. FBI by Presto+Vivace · · Score: 1

    surely it is the FBI who would have jurisdiction in a case such as this.

  25. Run as user AND back-ups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    All these problems could be prevented by-
    1. Running as a low privileged user, NOT administrator with root powers. Might be tough on Windows, but so is having all your computer ransomed.
    2. Back-ups of vital data. If you have paroper back-ups, nuke the disks and reinstall, or restore images and back-ups of the files.

    Windows encourages bad practices. Did you ever see a ready build PC with all the data on a separate derive or partition? No, they make it so a re-install makes you lose all your data.

    1. Re:Run as user AND back-ups by mlts · · Score: 2

      Most backups would be erased or encrypted by the ransomware. The problem is that people think in terms of disk failures or hardware failures, so have their backup solution based around this. Just this in mind, going with two SANs that replicate with each other asynchronously is the best thing to do, since the data is always available.

      However, this doesn't factor in software designed to corrupt/encrypt backups over a long haul. This is going to take a dedicated backup server that pulls backups and stores them in a place where a machine cannot access (and thus tamper) with stored data. It also takes a long data retention policy, just in case.

      However, in a lot of places, backups are like security -- they are viewed as having no ROI, so at best, you might get some mechanism to stash stuff on disk, but if a machine can back up to the disk directly, it likely can erase/modify stored data.

    2. Re:Run as user AND back-ups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is the rub: Ransomware doesn't need root. It just needs access to the files and the Internet to do its nasty stuff.

    3. Re:Run as user AND back-ups by bws111 · · Score: 1

      I hate to think of what kind of shitty backup system could be erased or encrypted by ransomware.

    4. Re:Run as user AND back-ups by mlts · · Score: 1

      All consumer level ones are that shitty. Time Machine does have some OS level protection, but most just dump data to an external drive. Overwriting the files or just a format of the filesystem can easily destroy that backup.

      Windows Server Essentials 2012 R2 has "pull" functionality to grab data from desktops. Another utility is Retrospect which can have a client installed on desktops.

      Of course, the ideal would be a backup appliance like an EMC Avamar that deduplicated. Think Time Capsule, except that the appliance initiated the backups, stored them securely, and did the deduplication. Add decent disk encryption (perhaps a startup password or PIN entered on the appliance's webpage to mount the backup drives), and this would help versus malware.

    5. Re:Run as user AND back-ups by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 1

      Windows encourages bad practices. Did you ever see a ready build PC with all the data on a separate derive or partition? No, they make it so a re-install makes you lose all your data.

      This hasn't been true for awhile...

      I recently reinstalled Windows 8 on a machine that someone brought to me that had been messed up.

      Easy peasy, do a "clean install" on the existing partition, it moves everything from Windows and Program Files to Windows.Old, gives you a clean install without wiping data, you pick out what you need then delete the .old folder.

      Works like a champ...

    6. Re:Run as user AND back-ups by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 1

      Most backups would be erased or encrypted by the ransomware.

      How? A proper backup system has offline copies that aren't connected to anything and it also has versioning of backups so if somehow the last backup is messed up, the one before that or the one before that works.

  26. News by Richy_T · · Score: 1

    This has been happening since at least a year ago. There's nothing at all about this story that raises it to the level of "news"

  27. Restore backup images by ITRambo · · Score: 1

    Why didn't they simply restore backup images? If they are too lazy to have set up a server that automatically backs up images incrementally they need to fire the entire administrative staff and bring on thinking people that can properly prepare for disaster recovery.

    1. Re:Restore backup images by Phreakiture · · Score: 1

      Well, you don't really known when the ransomware was installed. You could have a perfectly sane backup policy, and still be left with no backup that doesn't contain the ransomware, if the criminals are patient enough for all of your backups to age out.

      At the same time, they can only go back so far, because student records stored in increasingly old backups will be increasingly stale.

      --
      www.wavefront-av.com
  28. I'm sure ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... Matthew Broderick could still find a way to log in to the system.

    --
    Have gnu, will travel.
  29. Ransomware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Took over the Germanwings autopilot.

    The Schools? Eh, this is what happens when using cheap commodity hardware and software.

  30. Someday people will learn... I hope by nobuddy · · Score: 1

    Offline backups and live images.
    infected? shut down the network, reboot the image on the system. Restore lost data from offline backups.
    Find the hole (likely some dumbass that has already been told 37,000,000 times to quit opening strange attachments- fire them with extreme prejudice), fix it, and put it all back online.

    No ransom paid, minimal if any loss, and this trend dies off like it should have the day it was born.

  31. Cannot take attendance? by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Without working computers, teachers cannot take attendance, access phone numbers or records, and students cannot purchase food in cafeterias.

    One can only wonder how difficult it was to teach highschool before computers.

    How did our ancestors manage?

    1. Re:Cannot take attendance? by myrdos2 · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of a South Park episode, 'Taming Strange', where they computerize the entire school:

      https://southparknewsnow.files...

    2. Re:Cannot take attendance? by scm · · Score: 1

      When I was in school, attendance was tracked on paper, and we purchased food from the cafeteria with cash.

  32. Check the Administrator pass.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps the same sys-admin that worked at NASA a while back, started working for this NJ school system.

    Taking the headliner here at face value...
    -can't take attendance? hard copy, manual!
    -phone numbers & records? hello! hard copy!

    I could go on, but it's like these people turned dumb when all this technology took over! Do the administrators, and teachers likely, even have a neuron between them? Wow!

  33. Firmware malware? by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 1

    What if we get ransomware combined with the firmware level exploits as seen in the "Equation Group" hacks.

    Shudder.

  34. What's new about this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only unique aspect is that they are demanding bitcoins...

  35. So what... by drew_92123 · · Score: 0

    Just restore from backups... Oh? You don't have any recent backups? I know who has a pink slip on the way... ;-)

  36. Windows Keys by man_ls · · Score: 1

    An earlier generation of this malware used Windows built-in crypto, I think Elcomsoft put out a tool to extract the keys back out of the repository and decrypt the files yourself. Are newer versions of the ransomware using their own keys or encryption engines?

  37. Why can't parents RECEIVE e-mails? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How does an infection on school computers affect parents ability to receive e-mails? Is gmail infected, too?

  38. Something is missing here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What did the ransomware actually do?

    Reading between the lines here, my interpretation is that the school district doesn't have usable backups.

  39. Pay the ransom by viperidaenz · · Score: 2

    Bitcoins are tracable. Spend another 10k and hire a meth addict hitman.

    1. Re:Pay the ransom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And find the high school valedictorian in a pool of blood.

  40. Messin' with people in Jersey? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope they are good hackers. There are a lot of swamps down there to bury less elite hackers.
    (Muskrat1 to Muskrat2: Mmmm, hackers,... tastes like chicken)

  41. Sneaky jab at Common Core by imidan · · Score: 2

    FTFS:

    the district has been forced to postpone the Common Core-mandated PARCC state exams

    But the Common Core DOES NOT mandate any particular exam or evaluation instrument of any kind. PARCC is, according to Wikipedia, "a coalition of 12 states and the District of Columbia that are working to create and deploy a standard set of K-12 assessments in math and English." PARCC is basing their assessments upon the Common Core standards, but it is PARCC that mandates the exams, not Common Core.

    Common Core is, literally, just a list of skills that students should have at various grade levels. For example, sixth grade math students are supposed to be able to "Write, read, and evaluate expressions in which letters stand for numbers." That simple statement, and many like it, make up the Common Core. It has nothing to do with mandating exams.

    The Common Core standards are freely available on the web, in case you would like to look at them: http://www.corestandards.org/r...

    1. Re:Sneaky jab at Common Core by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does the Common Core also deal with designing websites with gray text on a white background?

    2. Re:Sneaky jab at Common Core by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Replying to my own post. Maybe it's more the font style.

  42. Re:It's not about the hardware but about the data by JcMorin · · Score: 1

    The computer are just fine, format and reinstall. The data (files, database, pdf, doc) are locked and encrypted. That's what worth something to pay for... or not.

  43. Dear White House, by JonBot212 · · Score: 1

    If you don't use our tax revenue to effectively defend us from these attacks, can you at least respond as if we have been attacked? Every company and local government in the USA is under constant attack by government-sponsored attackers or stateless gangs. Daily. Isn't this also what drones are for?

    1. Re: Dear White House, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      JonBot,

      Sure we'll get that armed drone system fully up and running soon. In fact we have just revealed the name for that system: Skynet. Don't worry, we are totally confident that Skynet will be able to automatically determine who the perpetrators are to your local crime issue are and respond with fully automatic gunfire anywhere in the world without you even having to look your adversaries in the face. Rest assured, we the US Federal Government are on the case and looking out for your best interests.

      Regards,
      Mr. Gunho A. Grunt

      Seriously, if you are wanting to sick drones on someone for something as minor as this, let me ask you this: What are you going to do if the drones get hacked for (most likely anyway) the same reasons that the school was hacked? (Probably, some user doing something they should not have been doing like reusing passwords, surfing porn, shopping, running random email attachments, being fooled by some kid, loading a homework assignment from a student without running antivirus checks over it first, etc.)

  44. Funding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a great way for the CIA to fund ops without having to account for funding...

  45. A program called Ransomware :) by DougPaulson · · Score: 1

    "Fortunately the Superintendent told CBS 3’s Walt Hunter the hackers, using a program called Ransomware, did not access any personal information about students, families or teachers"

    So we can be pretty sure the 'program called ransomware' isn't a Unix/Apple or Android hack :) While I do take the assurances of the Superintendent in good faith, it did occur to me to ponder why CBS 3’s Walt Hunter didn't ask the question as to how this 'program called ransomware' got onto the 'computers' in the first place?