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Intel 'Compute Stick' PC-Over-HDMI Dongle Launched, Tested

MojoKid writes: Intel has officially announced the availability of their Compute Stick HDMI dongle, and has lifted the embargo on early tests with the device. The Compute Stick is essentially a fully-functional, low-power, Atom-based system with memory, storage, and an OS, crammed into a dongle about 10cm long. There will initially be two compute sticks made available: one running Windows (model STCK1A32WFC) and another running Ubuntu (model STCK1A8LFC). The Windows 8.1 version of the Compute Stick is packing an Intel Atom Z3735F processor, with a single-channel of 2GB of DDR3L-1333 RAM and 32GB of internal storage, though out of the box only 19.2GB is usable. The Ubuntu version of the Compute Stick has as a similar CPU, but is packing only 1GB of RAM and 8GB of internal storage. All sticks have USB and MicroSD expansion capability. It doesn't burn through any benchmarks, but for multi-media playback, basic computing tasks, web browsing, HD video, or remote access, the Compute Stick has enough muscle to get the job done, and it's cheap, too: $99 — $149.

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  1. Cripple Linux? by realilskater · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why in FSM's name are the Ubuntu version hardware specs lower?

    1. Re:Cripple Linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Probably true, and a commentary on the overhead required to run Windows. Even so, it would be nice to run Ubuntu on the other version without having to pay the "Microsoft tax" to get the upgraded hardware. A higher price is fair, but paying for a license you don't use is silly.

    2. Re:Cripple Linux? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why in FSM's name are the Ubuntu version hardware specs lower?

      I think because they want to sell a cheap, low spec one and MS doesn't like people shipping Windows on underspeced hardware.

      Anyway, my old eee has 1G RAM and to be honest it's beginning to get rather spartan even for web browsing.

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    3. Re:Cripple Linux? by Dracos · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Makes me wonder about the economics of producing these things. Apparently something related to the OS choices makes it worth Intel's while to develop separate models and the infrastructure to build each one, rather than just building the higher spec model and slapping either OS onto it.

      It's things like this that hearken back to the glory days of the Evil Empire, and why people find it difficult to trust MS now.

    4. Re:Cripple Linux? by Xenx · · Score: 2

      Everywhere I'm looking, the Windows stick is $150 and the Ubuntu is $110. I don't want to dig for more realistic numbers, but based on retail pricing for desktop/laptop level components we're looking at around $25. It wouldn't seem overly unreasonable to assume most/all of the price difference is due to hardware and little/nothing to do with MS.

    5. Re:Cripple Linux? by ArhcAngel · · Score: 2

      My guess is the Microsoft tax is not in play here. Intel is most likely installing Windows 8.1 with Bing which is free for low end hardware. Unless you consider the need for beefier hardware than Linux part of the tax that is.

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    6. Re:Cripple Linux? by rubycodez · · Score: 2

      Linux can do more with more hardware resources. Your statement doesn't answer question, sensible thing would be for Intel to make 1 device

    7. Re:Cripple Linux? by hawguy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      For the last 24 years: LINUX ISN'T STUPID BLOATWARE! IT RUNS GREAT ON ANY HARDWARE!!!

      Hardware maker in 2015: OK, you're right. Here ya go.

      Fanboys: OMG!! CRIPPLED HARDWARE!!

      It's still a valid complaint -- why give the Ubuntu device half the ram and 1/4 the storage? Even if Ubuntu *requires* less resources than Windows, the applications that people want to run may not. Chrome, in particular, seems to grow to consume all of my RAM whether I run it on my old 2GB laptop or my 16GB desktop. And the Windows device has 19GB of usable storage -- more than 3 times the total amount of storage on the Ubuntu stick, Ubuntu users store data too, especially on a device well suited to be a media player.

    8. Re:Cripple Linux? by dj245 · · Score: 2

      Makes me wonder about the economics of producing these things. Apparently something related to the OS choices makes it worth Intel's while to develop separate models and the infrastructure to build each one, rather than just building the higher spec model and slapping either OS onto it.

      It's things like this that hearken back to the glory days of the Evil Empire, and why people find it difficult to trust MS now.

      Well, I can't speak for the Ubuntu one, but I have a Yoga 2 10" tablet with Windows 8 with nearly identical specs, only the Z3745 processor instead of this stick's Z3735. The difference in CPU is not significant.

      2GB of RAM is not enough for web pages with endless scrolling, such as Tumblr, or bloated pages such as Vice.com. Chrome sucks up the RAM, and when there is none left, things aren't pretty. I use "The Great Suspender" addon which saves unused tabs to disk and frees up memory, but even that isn't enough. We are past the point where 2GB of RAM is enough for even simple web browsing. Maybe Ubuntu manages the limited memory better, but based on how much Chrome is using, the OS choice may be irrelevent and these devices really need 4GB of RAM.

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    9. Re:Cripple Linux? by gweihir · · Score: 2

      These are the minimal specs that make sense for either OS. Ubuntu is just a _lot_ more efficient.

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    10. Re:Cripple Linux? by JazzLad · · Score: 2

      This has a less than 9" screen the same way my desktop does ... until it (in both cases) is plugged in.

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    11. Re:Cripple Linux? by duk242 · · Score: 2

      I have one of these, they're kinda zippy and nice. The only problem I had with mine was that it doesn't have any cooling whatsoever. So when it heats up it downclocks (See: http://freaktab.com/forum/tv-p...) Besides that it's quite a nice little unit :D

    12. Re:Cripple Linux? by fisted · · Score: 3, Informative

      There were probably around 10-20 machines involved in you posting this comment here. One of them runs Windows.

    13. Re:Cripple Linux? by rubycodez · · Score: 2

      Wrong, the world's important information (money, insurance, logistics) is NOT hosted on Windows. You are clueless

      So over a billion people cluelessly run a bloated and buggy malware and spyware vector, and this makes it legitimate? Get a clue

  2. Cheap in which universe?! by itsme1234 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There are a bunch of tablets on Amazon right now with Z3735G (which I assume is about the same if not better as the Z3735F) for less than $100.

    They come (of course) with battery, probably charger, screen (of course) and so on. How is this stupid stick "cheap" for $100-$150?

    1. Re:Cheap in which universe?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      You are absolutely correct. Check out the MicroCenter Winbook tablets.
      For a lot less money, you can buy a tablet with all of this:

      IPS LCD Screen 1280 x 800
      Capacitive Touch Screen (5-Point Multi-Touch)
      Full size USB 2.0
      3.5mm Audio
      Micro USB
      Micro HDMI
      Bluetooth 4.0
      Wi-Fi 802.11b/g/n
      Front Camera 2 Megapixel
      Rear Camera 2 Megapixel
      Integrated Mic
      Sensors G-Sensor, Light Sensor
      USB Power Plug & Charging Cable;
      Built-in speakers
      Battery Rechargeable Lithium Polymer
      AC Adapter 5V/2A 10W Power Adapter

    2. Re:Cheap in which universe?! by barc0001 · · Score: 3, Informative

      These HDMI sticks are meant for a certain thing, and replacing a tablet isn't one of them. But try taking any one of those cheap tablets and connect it neatly to your TV and let me know how that's working for you. I am betting none of them have HDMI out capability at that price point.

      The point of these sticks are to be a media device, or a low power workstation/presentation device and to be relatively simple to integrate into a large display for both uses, which it is.

  3. Re:ummm by Big_Breaker · · Score: 2

    Can run x86 binaries and uses Intel HD graphics, so no gfx driver issues. Roku or other ARM sticks can't run x86 binaries and you have to deal with their binary blob gfx drivers that generally don't play well with new kernels. ARM binaries are vary by core vintage and soft vs hard float. Then there is the variety of gpu cores: MALI, Vivante, PowerVR, Broadcom. By contrast Intel has open source options and Intel supplied binaries that get updated, especially because the desktop chips use the same gpu.

    I tried upgrading my headless and slow single core ARM server to an IMX6 quad core. In theory it would have been great - in reality it never worked right and the gfx issues were a nightmare to sort out. I ended up with a J1900 board for not much more and it works like a dream.

  4. Re:"...crammed into a dongle about 10cm long..." by ichthus · · Score: 4, Informative

    It would be an upgrade for me. :(

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  5. Specced too low, weird form factor by m.dillon · · Score: 2

    It's specced way too low to really be useful as a general computing device, and the form factor is 'weird' to say the least. It's too big to really be called a stick, and too small to be able to pack a decent cpu. There's plenty of space behind the monitor for a somewhat larger device in a better form factor. The stick is a play toy that you will become disappointed with very quickly (think the old 'netbook' concept Intel tried to push a few years ago... that's what the stick feels like).

    Honestly, the 'compute stick' makes zero sense for a TV-mounted device. It is far better to just go with a chrome cast stick or an AppleTV for airplay and using a pad or cell in your hand to control it if you want to throw a display up on the TV. Otherwise you will be fumbling around with a horrible remote or you have to throw together a bluetooth keyboard (etc...) and it just won't be a fun or convenient experience.

    My recommendation... don't bother with this gadget. Instead, spend a bit more money and get an Intel NUC or Gigabyte BRIX (both based on Broadwell). And get at least the i5 version, the lack of turbo in the i3 version is telling. e.g. i5-5200 based box or better. It will cost significantly more than the stick, but it packs a decent cpu, can take up to 16GB of ram (2x204pin SO-DIMM DDR3), and depending on the model might even have room for a 2.5" SSD or HDD in it. The broadwell i5-5200U makes for quite a reasonable compact workstation and boxes based on it will be almost universally dual-headed. Of course, whatever floats your boat but I would definitely say that the lowest-priced Intel NUC or Gigabyte BRIX that is haswell-based or broadwell-based is still going to be an order of magnitude better than the compute stick.

    I have one of the Gigabyte GB-BXi5H-5200's myself ('H' version fits a normal 2.5" SSD or HDD) and packed 16GB of ram into it. It is dual-headed so I can drive two displays with it and the box is small enough to mount on the back of a monitor if you so desire (it even includes a mounting plate and most monitors, such as LG monitors, are ready to take it). And if mounting it on the back of a TV doesn't make sense, mount it on the back of a monitor instead or just let it float behind the monitor. It's a small box, after all, it won't get in the way of anything. 4-thread (2-core), 2.2 GHz turbo to 2.7 GHz. Dual-head. Decent.

    -Matt

    1. Re:Specced too low, weird form factor by Lumpy · · Score: 2

      Yep and it's worse for a media center than a Raspberry Pi 2.

      More expensive, lower horsepower, goofy and limited. It's a failstick.

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  6. Re:Heavy? by minstrelmike · · Score: 3, Informative

    In the article, he advised using the extension cable and not plugging it directly in. The article is good, not by the vendor.
    It even has a little fan inside that puts out a high-pitched annoying whine after longterm use.

  7. Re:ummm by suutar · · Score: 2

    but the USB 2.0 port should work great, no?

  8. Re:ummm by gstoddart · · Score: 2

    Oh, yes, I'm an idiot apparently.

    Somehow the two USB references got mashed up in my head.

    Yes, you are 100% correct ... there's a USB port you can use for devices, and one for power.

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