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Ancient Hangover Cure Discovered In Greek Texts

An anonymous reader writes with good news for people looking for an old cure for an old problem. Trying to ease a bad hangover? Wearing a necklace made from the leaves of a shrub called Alexandrian laurel would do the job, according to a newly translated Egyptian papyrus. The "drunken headache cure" appears in a 1,900-year-old text written in Greek and was discovered during the ongoing effort to translate more than half a million scraps of papyrus known as the Oxyrhynchus Papyri. Housed at Oxford University's Sackler Library, the enormous collection of texts contains lost gospels, works by Sophocles and other Greek authors, public and personal records and medical treatises dating from the first century AD to the sixth century A.D.

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  1. Re:damn by ArylAkamov · · Score: 1

    GREETINGS STRANGER

  2. Another text in the collected wisdom by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Another text in this collected wisdom authoritatively cites Aristotle as saying that Pythagorus invented the Scroll Lock key. Literally. It's a little key you lock the scroll with.

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    1. Re:Another text in the collected wisdom by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Funny

      Another text in this collected wisdom authoritatively cites Aristotle as saying that Pythagorus invented the Scroll Lock key. Literally. It's a little key you lock the scroll with.

      No, that was Steven Chu, and I have a citation.

  3. Re:damn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why they all went outside to collect leaves of the Alexandrian laurel bush of course.

  4. "... medical treatises" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Any baldness cures in there?

  5. Ancient, Greek, Hangover cure? Go Takahashi! by spiritplumber · · Score: 3, Informative
    "This is trichloromethylene, it will counteract the effects of alcohol"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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    1. Re:Ancient, Greek, Hangover cure? Go Takahashi! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Before anyone asks, Trichloromethylene does not exist. It is the 555 phone number of chemical compounds.

  6. The obvious next step by techno-vampire · · Score: 4, Funny

    The next thing to do, of course, is to test the claim and see if it's true or not. I'm sure that you'll find lots of college students who are willing to give themselves hangovers in the name of science, especially if they're going to be paid for it.

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    1. Re: The obvious next step by icebike · · Score: 4, Funny

      The fact that the cure has been lost for two thousand years suggest that it is already been tried and found wanting.

      Who would forget a cure for a hang over for Pete sake? Especially after writing it down!

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    2. Re: The obvious next step by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Who would forget a cure for a hang over for Pete sake?

      Someone who's been drinking a lot?

    3. Re: The obvious next step by icebike · · Score: 1

      Someone who converted to a religion that forbids drinking. Alexandria became Islamic territory.

      Islam didn't always forbid alcohol. Only drunkenness.
      http://www.economist.com/node/...

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  7. Lost Gospels, Sophocles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Lost Gospels, Sophocles, and 1,800 other pages and someone posts about the hangover cure.
    I guess we are living a new dark ages.

    1. Re:Lost Gospels, Sophocles? by GuB-42 · · Score: 2

      Considering that hangovers is probably the most researched subject in all universities, I believe that it is indeed the most important part.

    2. Re:Lost Gospels, Sophocles? by Holi · · Score: 3, Funny

      Actually choosing lost gospels over a hangover cure would be more appropriate for the Dark Ages.

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  8. Re:Real hangover cure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Why would a cure even be needed if you don't drink in the first place?

  9. Re:Please, BCE/CE, not BC/AD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    haha, is it Christian Era, or Anno Domini? But, people didn't start systematically talking about the years Before the Christian Era until they had already stopped using Latin everywhere, so it's BC for Before Christ.

    Well anyway, I'm sure we can call it Common Era, or Current Era, to pretend we're not using an estimate from hundreds of years later of when Christ was born to date things.

    Why don't you start in the year 2000? That way you won't be basing your calendar on Christ.

  10. Re:Please, BCE/CE, not BC/AD by Guy+Harris · · Score: 4, Funny

    FUCK you and your god damned bullshit.

    Fuck you culture warrior identity politics fuckface asshole prick.

    BC/AD is part of the fucking culture ass grabbing fuck puke.

    FUCK YOU, history changer Goebbels re-writer.

    I vote for renaming them BFC ("Before Fucking Christ") and AFD ("Anno Fucking Domini").

  11. Re:Please, BCE/CE, not BC/AD by dwywit · · Score: 1, Funny

    Now you've got me wondering just what one would do (have done?) before fucking christ.

    Genuflect? Give the kiss of peace? (Oh, baby....) Take your clothes off, at least. A glass of wine, a couple of figs dipped in honey to set the mood.

    What would mary magdalene have done BFC?

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  12. Still being translated? by ngc5194 · · Score: 1

    Wait, these things were discovered like a hundred years ago. They haven't finished translating them? All the folks who know ancient Greek have better things to do? Like what?

    1. Re:Still being translated? by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      All the folks who know ancient Greek have better things to do? Like what?

      Wanking off to the plays of Aristophanes probably. I for one collect jokes. Here's one:

      If Euripides his trousers, then Eumenides his trousers

      Ha, Ha Ha, HAHAHAHAHAHA

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    2. Re:Still being translated? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Perhaps the people who are seriously interested in these texts prefer to read them in the original so translating them is not very useful.

      Of course, the option of putting translations on the Internet makes some things worth translating nowadays that weren't worth translating in the past when you'd have to have made a print edition.

    3. Re:Still being translated? by tehcyder · · Score: 2

      All the folks who know ancient Greek have better things to do? Like what?

      Wanking off to the plays of Aristophanes probably. I for one collect jokes. Here's one:

      If Euripides his trousers, then Eumenides his trousers

      Ha, Ha Ha, HAHAHAHAHAHA

      No, it's if Euripides trousers, then Eumenides trousers.

      The "des" ending is pronounced "dese" as in "these".

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    4. Re:Still being translated? by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      Recently they uncovered the following fragment:

      Poté Tha sas dósei méchri...

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  13. Re:Love the Greeks! by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

    Well, you really should look up the literal meaning of "Symposium"

    But were those laurel wreaths not for greek olympionikes and roman ceasars?

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  14. Ancient Hangover Cure Discovered In Greek Texts by FrostedWheat · · Score: 1

    I didn't even know they had mobile phones!

  15. Re:Please, BCE/CE, not BC/AD by will_die · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sometimes it seems like militant atheists
    Please get the terms right, the name of the religion is not militant atheism but evangelical atheism.

  16. Re:Real hangover cure by sound+vision · · Score: 1

    Right, smoking bud is so much nicer and less damaging. I hear you don't even have to worry about the legal issues in some states anymore.

  17. Re:Real hangover cure by pslytely+psycho · · Score: 1

    And the 4/20 sales are great, along with 'shatterday' 1/2 price oils, Manic Monday ounce sales and so on....
    Rivers, Streams, Mountains, Lakes.....and legal weed, Washington is great!

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  18. Re:We Greeks invented drunkardness also! by pjt33 · · Score: 1

    The tree is willow, but I understood that Hippocrates used its bark rather than its leaves.

  19. Excuse me, but... by Xenna · · Score: 1

    ...how is this news?

    1. Re:Excuse me, but... by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      The best cure for hangovers is to drink a glass of water between each "drink". Prevention is the best cure known.

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  20. Treatment? Yes. Cure? Unknown by damn_registrars · · Score: 2

    Whether stringing its leaves and wearing the strand around the neck had any effect to relieve headaches in alcohol victims isnâ(TM)t known.

    This doesn't seem like it would have been that difficult to test, but there is no indication that anyone who read it has done so yet.

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  21. Re:Please, BC/AD by Trepidity · · Score: 2

    What I don't like about BC/AD is that one is English and one is Latin. Pick one, not some ugly mixture! The mixture also means that the placement of the abbreviation is either inconsistent (traditional usage) or grammatically incorrect (getting more common). The grammatically correct placement is to put BC after the date, but AD before the date:

    330 BC vs. AD 1983

    You could write "1983 AD", but then you are not even being correctly traditional, at which point you might as well just give up and use the newer English abbreviations, which always go at the end.

  22. Re:damn by grub · · Score: 2

    We're all rocking out on MySpace.

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  23. Re:Please, BCE/CE, not BC/AD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Fuck you and your religion/faith.

  24. Re: Please, BCE/CE, not BC/AD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    In Latin aCn (ante Christum natum) is written for BC; anno Domini is one Latin way of expressing what we mean by AD, but often I've seen it written as anno Salutis (in the year of Salvation), and there are countless variations. Sometimes, especially in texts referring to Greek and Hebrew affairs, you find a different system, aM or anno Mundi, but in general the aD system is so prevalent that variation is desirable (Latin loves variety), hence anno Salutis and its friends.

  25. Re:Real hangover cure by Holi · · Score: 1

    You don't have to worry about State officials, you do have to worry about federal law still though, no matter what state you are in (I prefer high as fuck).

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  26. Re:Real hangover cure by Holi · · Score: 1

    Have your ridiculous prices gone down? Kinda sucks when the legal weed can't compete with the unlicensed dealers.

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  27. Folk treatment by Iamthecheese · · Score: 1

    According to Wikipedia "In Cambodia, the leaves are inhaled as a treatment for migraines and vertigo."

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    1. Re:Folk treatment by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

      Sounds like a possible anti-inflammatory or astringent to me. Not just that Cambodian entry as the Fiji eye inflammation treatment.

  28. Better cure has been known for quite some time by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1
    It is based on raw eggs, wocestershire sauce and red pepper.

    For a moment you would feel as if somebody had touched off a bomb inside the old bean and was strolling down your throat with a lighted torch, and then everything would suddenly seem to get all right. The sun would shine in through the window; birds would twitter in the tree-tops; and, generally speaking, hope would dawn once more.

    It is time tested and well recorded. Really, there is an actual historical record of this recipe working its magic in the morning after an incredible bacchanalian revelry in the Drones club to celebrate the engagement of Augustus Fink-Nottle to Madeline Bassett.

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    1. Re:Better cure has been known for quite some time by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

      Seems a bit like chopping off your foot to fix an ingrown toenail.

  29. Re:Please, BCE/CE, not BC/AD by alvinrod · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't starting in the year 2000 still be basing the calendar on Christ as you're picking precise point in time that's in reference to the old calendar? The year 2000 is only the year 2000 because it was 2000 years after the estimated birth of Christ and you'd still be using it as the basis for the new calendar.

    You'd have to pick some other human event to set the start date. You could go with the moon landing or the first atomic bomb test or any other number of historic dates that are well established. Or perhaps you could choose based on some celestial event or even something more mundane like the founding of Slashdot.

  30. Let's stop this right here by operagost · · Score: 1

    Can we stop using the unscientific term "lost gospels"? Not only are many of these writings simply letters, and not accounts of the life and teachings of Jesus, they were never widely accepted and rarely cited by early Christian writers. They're apocrypha.

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    1. Re: Let's stop this right here by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      How is apocrypha any more scientific?

  31. Don't get a hangover in the first place by Misagon · · Score: 1

    I am not going to say that people shouldn't drink, but if you drink responsibly then you shouldn't get a hangover in the first place.

    I can imagine that hangovers were more common in earlier times because alcoholic drinks could have been of lower quality - with more of the chemicals that would worsen hangover. Production and quality control these days are done using scientific methods.
    One of those chemicals is methanol, which I would expect there to be more of in moonshine than in store-bought vodka.
    Another cause of hangover is dehydration.

    So... Know your limit and stick to it, drink high-quality drinks and let every other glass contain a non-alcoholic drink, and then you should avoid the hangover.

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  32. Re:Please, BCE/CE, not BC/AD by mr.mctibbs · · Score: 1

    Anno Domini means "In the year of the Lord," not "after death."

  33. Scholars. by jimbob6 · · Score: 1

    Ever wonder if these scholars that translate ancient texts are just making it up as they go along?

  34. The Mexicans Beat The Greeks by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 1

    The best hangover cure is the Michelada.

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  35. Re:Please, BCE/CE, not BC/AD by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

    It's an atheist thing.

  36. Re:Please, BCE/CE, not BC/AD by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

    That's the Unix Epoch.

  37. Re:Love the Greeks! by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
    So the important question is....

    Does it WORK as a hangover cure???

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  38. Re: Please, BCE/CE, not BC/AD by laie_techie · · Score: 2

    In Latin aCn (ante Christum natum) is written for BC; anno Domini is one Latin way of expressing what we mean by AD, but often I've seen it written as anno Salutis (in the year of Salvation), and there are countless variations. Sometimes, especially in texts referring to Greek and Hebrew affairs, you find a different system, aM or anno Mundi, but in general the aD system is so prevalent that variation is desirable (Latin loves variety), hence anno Salutis and its friends.

    anno Mundi (year of the world) is used in the Jewish calendar. anno Domini translates to "year of the Lord". Much of the ancient world used a system of "the Xth year of the reign of Y"

  39. Re:Please, BCE/CE, not BC/AD by swilly · · Score: 1

    Why stop there? The days of the week are named after the gods associated with the seven celestial bodies (only Saturday wasn't converted from a Roman deity to a German one, as there was no equivalent of Saturn in the Norse pantheon). And the first 6 months of the calendar are all named after Roman gods or religious festivals, so we should rename those as well. Even how we divide time into hours, minutes, and seconds is associated with Babylonian numerology and astrology, which has deep religious significance.

    If we are going to start changing names to remove religious connotations, we have a lot of work to do. Or is it just the Christian origin of the name you object to, and not religion in general?

  40. Re:Please, BCE/CE, not BC/AD by alva_edison · · Score: 1

    You'd have to pick some other human event to set the start date. You could go with the moon landing or the first atomic bomb test or any other number of historic dates that are well established... more mundane like the founding of Slashdot.

    It should be based on the first time the ball dropped in Times Square.

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  41. Re:Real hangover cure by sound+vision · · Score: 1

    The feds have written policies now about not enforcing those laws in states that have legalized. "But they said they wouldn't" probably won't hold up in court, but the average stoner doesn't need to worry about the feds.

  42. Re:Real hangover cure by pslytely+psycho · · Score: 1

    Yeah, we voted down that stupid 25% tax, as it was imposed without voter approval, and retail stores are popping up all over.
      The medical is still a better deal, but the retail is frequently $8 a gm. At least here on the eastern side of the state.
    And the quality of the retail is approaching that of the medical. Only thing is it has to be pre-packaged on retail so you don't get to handle and smell it like you do the bulk jars in the medical side.
    Medical still has the best oils though.

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  43. They also thought wearing amethyst stops durnkness by Rujiel · · Score: 1

    "Methys" actually means "wine", hence the name. But we know now that's false.. why would this be amy different?