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Gen. Petraeus To Be Sentenced To Two Years Probation and Fine
An anonymous reader writes: Petraeus, a now-retired U.S. Army General, has already agreed to plead guilty to a criminal misdemeanor charge of unauthorized removal and retention of classified material. As part of the agreement with prosecutors filed in March, the government will not seek any prison time. Instead, Petraeus will agree to pay a $40,000 fine and receive two years of probation, according to court documents. The recommendations are not binding on the federal judge who will preside at the hearing Thursday afternoon in Charlotte.
Snowden done a truly patriotic service, never mind his intent (who knows) but this General was only after pussy before he BETRAYED US!
For a second I thought a member of the elite was actually going to be significantly punished, but these wise prosecutors have preserved the Aristocracy from shame!
Now, let's get about castrating Edward Snowden!
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
The more this happens, the more it looks like Snowdon is a vendetta for embarrassing the powerful by doing what is, more and more, looking like the right thing.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
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America needs people like you!
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
I think this case should absolutely be used as precedent when and if they sentence Edward Snowden. I think a two year suspended sentence, followed by a Congressional Medal of Freedom would be an appropriate sentence.
I could say the same thing about your post, but that's really going nowhere.
I agree with OP. /. is it's own thing, not a general purpose news aggregation site. The world is saturated with those, and surely doesn't need another.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
but only provided national security info to his floozy for sex.
Slashdot is been posting general new stories since basically forever.
Petraeus' case is generally contrasted with those of Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden. Manning spent a long time in questionable conditions that some suggest were intended as duress, all for leaking computer data that exposed a US war crime. Snowden is in de facto exile for exfiltrating data that revealed the means by which the US government illegally spies on its citizens and the extent of their previous lies denying it. Petraeus got a slap on the wrist for leaking classifed information to a woman with whom he was having an affair. The two former leakers were punished for revealing the government's crimes, while the latter stayed out of jail despite giving classified info in exchange for sex.
Petraeus is a part of the elite. The elite don't get real punishments. Now remember who your masters are, and beg them not to punish you for your impertinence! Oh, and Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
A Congressional medal?
I would sooner pick the two years on jail instead.
1. He was leaking classified information to his mistress who was also his biographer. Like top-secret stuff.
2. When an investigation ensued, he lied to the FBI about leaking the material to his mistress.
Martha Stewart lied to the FBI about insider trading tips and got at least 5 month in a prison camp.
It's meant to warn nerds of the dangers associated with female companionship
I think we will find there is one rulebook for punishing people like Snowden, and another for VIPs like Petraeus. And yet another (very thin) one for super ultra-VIPs like Clinton.
ah but Snowden isnt connected.
Petraeus is, from having been director of the CIA.
Also, he told secrets to the public, instead of his mistress.
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
... stored it all on his own server in the first place, he could run for President.
He should get dishonourable discharge as well and no pension.
We get a lot of articles here that people say don't belong on Slashdot, but I usually side with them being good articles. "Stuff that matters" and all that, personal freedoms, general interest to nerds, etc. But this one...no, I'm just not seeing it. Nothing to do with personal freedoms, nothing to do with computers, nothing to do with public policy, absolutely zero effect on any of us, even those of us in the USA. It's just political celebrity news.
Except that his indiscretions were discovered because his electronic cloak-and-dagger skills weren't what he thought they were, and that the FBI discovered this in an electronic dragnet, and that he, the director of the CIA, disclosed state secrets to his soon-to-be-jealous lover, which constitutes a greater potential breach of security than Snowden and Assange combined....
But aside from that, yeah, no relevance to the life of the average geek. None whatsoever.
Crumb's Corollary: Never bring a knife to a bun fight.
Snowden disclosed illegal activity on the part of his employer and the US government. He should be protected by the whistle-blower law. Petraeus gave classified material to his biographer (and lover). In addition to displaying his machismo to his female, he was also trying to provide background info for the book about him. Petraeus was motivated by self-serving benefit. Snowden was doing a service to his country. In a just world, Petraeus should be the one hiding in Russia to avoid life imprisonment or a death sentence.
"He took a duck in the face at 250 knots." -- William Gibson, Pattern Recognition
Where did the secret stuff given to the mistress go? Was it shared with certain governments not allied with the USA? Could it be treason? And the punishment for treason is pretty serious for a soldier - a firing squad.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
Sandy Berger got probation, community service, and a $50,000 fine I bet he didn't pay. Petraeus received essentially the same.
Funny that normal civilians and enlisted people get decades plus for the same crime.
Still wondering how she passed and destroyed classified information with no investigation. Supposedly produce a child with the President and you get to break regulations all around apparently.
It's meant to warn nerds of the dangers associated with female companionship
I suppose it is useful to have purely theoretical discussions around here from time to time.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
That ship already sailed with MEK. Carry a Hezbollah tv channel - the feds will send you to a Federal Pound Me In the Ass Penitentiary. Take money from MEK to lobby, aka propagandize on their behalf? We'll just take them off the terror watch list.
Petraeus is pretty far from 'elite', he's a dog on a leash. That's why he's getting a sentence instead of a free pass. I may change my opinion if he gets a pardon, though.
He gets to keep the freedom to bang the hot woman to whom he leaked government secrets (as she will remain free too).
"They hate us for our* Freedom!"
* - 'Us' being the power elite, not the filthy commoners subject to all the rules.
"Also, he told secrets to the public, instead of his mistress."
Snowden gave the documents to journalists for them to reveal. Don't be lazy and misrepresent it even accidentally. Beyond that they weren't even just "journalists" they were lawyers etc.
Gen Petraeus had a handful of documents in his desk. Hillary had tens of thousands of government emails stored in her own server and then wiped it without any government oversight.
"A plan fiendishly clever in its intricacies"- Homer Simpson
And traitors of the Bush White House Occupancy are supposed to be handed stiff bonuses, not flabby penalties
Remember kids, if you're not paying for the service, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT THAT IS BEING SOLD.
Apparently Attorney General Holder has never heard of a PLANK on a Ship at Sea, where there are Sharks with fucking laser beams. So General Petraeus' walk will be a long one.
Remember kids, if you're not paying for the service, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT THAT IS BEING SOLD.
Probably somewhere in the middle... he knew the location of enough closeted skeletons to avoid a stay at Hotel Leavenworth, but he was not quite powerful enough to just have the system shrug it off.
Then again, consider that he is still, even now, a paid consultant for the Obama Administration (ostensibly concerning ISIS), so take from that what you will...
Quo usque tandem abutere, Nimbus, patientia nostra?
Still waiting for a statement on the alleged classified alleged information she allegedly leaked, or for that matter a law that she may have broken. (Using a private email server was SOP until Kerry, at which point it became illegal.)
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Petraeus was the head of an US intelligence agency at the time. If you don't understand why US intelligence is relevant to information technology you haven't been paying attention for 15 years.
oh shut up.
the point of his actions were to reveal the NSAs actions to the public, so that the public knew about the shady/illegal snennigans the NSA and government were engaging in.
unlike Petraeus who's motivation in leaking was apparently to get into his biographer's pants.
and my lil joke was simply pointing out which one the government believes to be the bigger sin
(and since you're a little dense apparently, that would be "telling the public")
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
in about 8 years, give or take, we will see him as the GOP candidate?
comment first, facts later. http://chem.tufts.edu/AnswersInScience/RelativityofWrong.htm
No, you're wrong. Discussing classified information via unclassified sources has been illegal for some time.
EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 12065
Executive Order 12356
EXECUTIVE ORDER 12958 (notice the signatory)
So, please express how the government can address this without a complete record of the Secretary's e-mails? That's assuming you wish to trust the person receiving legal bribes from foreign governments $200K to $500K at a time through speaking fees for her or her husband.