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Woman Behind Pakistan's First Hackathon, Sabeen Mahmud, Shot Dead

An anonymous reader sends word that Sabeen Mahmud, a prominent Pakistani social and human rights activist, has been shot dead. The progressive activist and organizer who ran Pakistan's first-ever hackathon and led a human rights and a peace-focused nonprofit known as The Second Floor (T2F) was shot dead by unidentified gunmen in Karachi. Sabeen Mahmud was leaving the T2F offices with her mother some time after 9pm on Friday evening, reports the Pakistani newspaper Dawn. She was on her way home when she was shot, the paper reports. Her mother also sustained bullet wounds and is currently being treated at a hospital; she is said to be in critical condition.

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  1. Damn... by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You think the US is hostile to women in tech?

    I hope they find the bastards who did this, but I'm not holding my breath. She seemed like a vibrant, engaging, and intelligent woman. Pakistan will need more people like her to continue the fight against their more regressive, barbaric elements. My condolences to her family and friends.

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    Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
    1. Re:Damn... by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 5, Informative

      > We didn't have any inquisitions.

      Unless you were native American, in which case your land and property were taken and your people murdered, partly because you weren't Christian. Or if you were black, in which case you were enslaved and forced to a new language and not permitted to follow your old gods. Or, if you were a member of the Latter Day Saints, who were considered non-Christian and heretical and dangerous and were kicked out of state after state until they settled in the effectively empty, very poor land around Salt Lake City. Or unless you were Jewish, which prevented entry into various political and social clubs and even prevented people from doing business with you in various times and places.

      Make no pretense that the USA has been consistently tolerant of religious belief. The modern Christian religions may be accepting of other faiths, but they have not always been this way.

    2. Re:Damn... by GiganticLyingMouth · · Score: 5, Informative

      These neat little theories are always so so convenient to explain why everyone else is inferior. Yet Pakistan elected a woman as prime minister: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.... Perhaps the world is more complicated than these little theories suggest?

      ... the fine print being that she too was murdered (in 2007), with Al-Qaeda claiming responsibility. Arguing that Pakistan doesn't have a problem with militant islamist groups murdering women is a pretty tough sell

    3. Re:Damn... by cold+fjord · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, we did. Like most Americans, sadly, you know nothing of history beyond, say, 1980 or some such. If you did know some history, you would know ...

      Like many people on Slashdot you seem to have a defective knowledge of history and the church.

      If one were to look into the history they would find that you either grossly exagerate on these matters, or are simply wrong. Many of the early colonies were formed by religous sects coming from Europe. Once in America they adopted the European customs of institutionalizing the church with the government. Although in some colonies other sects were persecuted, few were killed. In any case it was nothing like the scale or severity of European persecution. Other colonies had different views. Rhode Island was formed with the ideal of religious tolerence, and other colonies were adopting laws for tolerance by 1650. Eventually all of the colonies adeopted the US Constitution, became states, and moved past that.

      As to the "Christian justifications for the genocide against American Indians" I have to ask, what genocide are you referring to? There wasn't one.

      Reject the Lie of White "Genocide" Against Native Americans
      Were American Indians the Victims of Genocide?

      As to your claims about "lines of Christian preachers submitted tons of briefs, all saying that their Christian God had deemed that black people were inherently inferior and not worthy of any basic human rights" in the case of Loving vs Virginia, which briefs are you referring to? The only brief I see listed from an organization claiming church affiliation was against Virginia's law.

      LOVING v. VIRGINIA, 388 U.S. 1 (1967)

      Briefs of amici curiae, urging reversal, were filed by William M. Lewers and William B. Ball for the National Catholic Conference for Interracial Justice et al.; [388 U.S. 1, 2] by Robert L. Carter and Andrew D. Weinberger for the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, and by Jack Greenberg, James M. Nabrit III and Michael Meltsner for the N. A. A. C. P. Legal Defense & Educational Fund, Inc.

      T. W. Bruton, Attorney General, and Ralph Moody, Deputy Attorney General, filed a brief for the State of North Carolina, as amicus curiae, urging affirmance

      So it looks to me that your disparagement of Christians is based on what is essentially one half-truth and two whole lies.

      Now that would be bad in and of itself, but you also overlook the many positive contributions made by Christians.

      The abolition of slavery - Christian and churches drove the abolisionist movement. Perhaps you could start with this man:
            William Wilberforce - the story told in this wonderful movie: Amazing Grace, released in 2007
      Higher Education - Many of America's first colleges were formed by churches.
      Health Care - Many hospitals have been founded by churches, or with church backing.
      The Civil Right movement - Once again many churches were participants in the Civil Rights movement

      There are many more that could be added to that.

      Yeah, you Christians are really, really superior to other religions....

      Moving past the half-truth and falsehoods you wrote certainly seems to make for a better record to reflect upon.

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      much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
  2. Tragic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is truly a tragic death. I often hear a lot from people in our society (United States) is so aggressive and repressive towards women, which I greatly disagree with. Giving soap operas here about how horrible it is is a disgrace compared to those in places like the middle east, who endure credible death threats and the like everyday. I hope this lady will be remembered, and may her death not be in vain.

  3. Remember Hypatia by catchblue22 · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Hypatia (born c. AD 350 – 370; died 415[1][3]) was a Greek mathematician, astronomer, and philosopher in Egypt, then a part of the Byzantine Empire. She was the head of the Neoplatonic school at Alexandria, where she taught philosophy and astronomy."

    "One day on the streets of Alexandria, Egypt, in the year 415 or 416, a mob of Christian zealots led by Peter the Lector accosted a woman’s carriage and dragged her from it and into a church, where they stripped her and beat her to death with roofing tiles. They then tore her body apart and burned it. Who was this woman and what was her crime? Hypatia was one of the last great thinkers of ancient Alexandria and one of the first women to study and teach mathematics, astronomy and philosophy. Though she is remembered more for her violent death, her dramatic life is a fascinating lens through which we may view the plight of science in an era of religious and sectarian conflict."

    I hate these islamic extremists at least as much as anyone here. But it isn't just islam that is capable of such things.

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    This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when first he appears as a protector - Plato (423 to 327 BC)
  4. Re:No comments about SJWs yet? by SirLordGodfrey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    She wasn't a "SJW", she was actually trying to help effect change in an environment in which women are not only oppressed, but it is distinctly easily visible in most, if not all, walks of life in Pakistan (and other countries with an Islamic majority that isn't too opposed to Sharia law).

    SJW's are usually trust fund babies and well-off morons that got bored with collecting tangible things and began collecting stories of oppression as bling. They're charlatans and ideologues, profit mongers and zealots.

    Ms. Sabeen Mahmud was far closer to Mahatma Gandhi than any "Social Justice Warrior" (who often, without a shred of humility, compare themselves to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Mahatma Gandhi, Malcolm X, or hell (I've yet to see them mention her but she fought for women's rights) Theodora the Empress alongside Emperor Justinian I of the Byzantine Empire).

    Everyone lies sometimes, SJW's lie more often.

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    "Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment."
  5. Re:truly an inspiration. by blippo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you don't care for what other people think or their interests, why would they care about your ideas and interest?

    Really intelligent people - those who are smart over the whole range, not just the logic puzzle part, are normally a delight to talk with.
    And although they might be smarter than you, and know more about the world, they generally do no tell you so.