Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin Launches Its First Rocket
Zothecula writes: Billionaires who made their cash in dot-coms from the 1990s successfully launching commercial rockets is officially a trend, now that Jeff Bezos has followed in the footsteps of Elon Musk with Wednesday's successful test flight of Blue Origin's New Shepard space vehicle. "Our 110,000-lbf thrust liquid hydrogen, liquid oxygen BE-3 engine worked flawlessly, powering New Shepard through Mach 3 to its planned test altitude of 307,000 feet. Guidance, navigation and control was nominal throughout max Q and all of ascent. The in-space separation of the crew capsule from the propulsion module was perfect. Any astronauts on board would have had a very nice journey into space and a smooth return." Here are the images and video.
Can anyone explain why Jeff Bezos is doing the same thing that SpaceX is already doing ?
To lower cost to orbit .. check ... check
To design re-usable first stages
The only difference I see is that they want to use LOX/LH for first stage.
And even then, they plan to go to LOX/LMethane after that.
Of course, competition is always nice to have.
Someone isn't very good at statistical analysis...
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Why is GM doing the same thing that Ford is doing? As long as there is a market for space launches, competition will align the incentives better than other arrangements. We'll get to see more different approaches tried, and find out what's best. Costs will generally go down.
If competition takes root, then in 30 years a suborbital ticket would be affordable to many of us.
I think if I was gonna design a flying penis, I'd make it a bit longer....
Except their reusable rocket crashed, they seem to be dancing around the fact that even part of it failed let alone how badly it failed. I can fully understand that these kinds of systems WILL have failures, and as long as the payload (either cargo or human) makes it it should be chocked up as a success, but I still find it annoying when these articles read more like a product brochure then a test flight. One of the reasons why I love SpaceX, they're pretty honest about the whole process (though they may delay releasing footage of actual explosions for a few days).
This was the first developmental test flight of their New Shepard, but they've been launching rockets since 2006. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...:
Second test flight: 13 November 2006, 06:30 (Goddard)
Third test flight: 22 March 2007 (Goddard)
Fourth test flight: 19 April 2007 (Goddard)
Fifth test flight: 6 May 2011 (New Shepard propulsion module (PM2))
Sixth test flight: 24 August 2011 (PM2, failure, loss of vehicle)
Pad escape test flight: 19 October 2012
(Their first test flight was a jet-powered controls testbed, so their first rocket flight was on the second test flight.)
It took a lot of balls for them to design it to look like this...
What was reserved only for governments it is now available to the wealthiest citizens, and what is now a trend among rich people will be common for all people - a "folks-rocket", as Hitler would like it named...
Antisthenes: "Wisdom begins by examining the words/names." - excuse my English, i am (slightly...) better with my Greek!
I don't understand. Is _this_ thing going to deliver my Q-Tips and AAA batteries now? Because if they raise the subscription fees again, I am so done!
Scarce, scared, scarred, sacred... -Col. Bruce Hampton
John Carmack is "only" a multi-millionaire but there is Armadillo Aerospace. Carmack always could do more with fewer resources.
Looks like something your mom has in her nightstand drawer.
Could it be next networking buzword - Amazon Space computing/services?
Or does that thing look like giant space sex toy?
That's our life, the big wheel of shit. - The Fat Man, Blue Tango Salvage
Rather than being geniuses and visionaries, they're seen as the profiteers and scammers that they were.
why Jeff Bezos is doing the same thing that SpaceX is already doing ?
They're not, New Shepard is a SUBorbital craft not an orbital one. I don't know if there are even any plans to make an orbital version...
From https://www.blueorigin.com/new...
"We continue to be big fans of the vertical takeoff, vertical landing architecture. We chose VTVL because it’s scalable to very large size. We’re already designing New Shepard’s sibling, her Very Big Brother – an orbital launch vehicle"
So: yes.
http://www.geoffreylandis.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1JgMxRm--0
Three. Carmack did the same, but he backed out I believe.
Now revived as a kickstarter, Exos Aerospace
Four, Richard Branson, Virgin Galactic
Five, Paul Allen, Stratolaunch/Vulcan Aerospace
http://www.geoffreylandis.com
Can anyone explain why Jeff Bezos is doing the same thing that SpaceX is already doing
To put Richard Branson in his place.
That's a perfectly reasonable motivation.
It also explains the shape of that fairing.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
I want to know where that booster crash landed. While it is straightforward to predict where an unguided ballistic re-entry may occur, a failed guided return attempt could potentially end up quite some distance from either its intended landing spot or its ballistic impact point. So... where did that thing go?
Musk wants to go to Mars.
SpaceShipTwo, already six years late, wont go orbitable like Blue Origin.
Think outside the box.
The summary fails to mention that it didn't all go to plan:
The booster that took the capsule up is said to have failed on the way down.
It is supposed to land vertically and softly, ready for another flight, but a hydraulic problem meant this part of the mission did not go as planned.
I read "did not go as planned" as "ended in a spectacular fireball," but they haven't released any images or video of that.
Incidentally the BBC's headline was:
Jeff Bezos conducts New Shepard flight
which sounded to me like he'd gone up in the thing.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
Well, obviously O'l Jeff wants to use unmanned rockets to deliver parcels to anyone, anywhere on earth within 10 minutes or less.
I likes the rockets. I would like a Best Buy ad that could perhaps not block just one of my screens, but all 5, and then also order some stuff for me on its on that I don't want, like one of everything from Monster.
ignorance is bliss. googlefiberatx.com
Rich nerds like big rockets.
What was contained on-board? A wheel of cheese, or perhaps some ice cream?
Regardless, great job and keep going guys. It will be great to see you in orbit in about 3 years.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
This guy wastes more money then anyone I can think of. He just spent a ton of money resurrecting a old Apollo rocket engine too. Maybe his ideal is deliver Amazon packages by rocket now? Maybe he should focus on how to make profits with his businesses.
I'd be happy if Jeff quit using USPS for my Prime orders. Jeff needs to remember what Amazon used to do and how he made all his money, or he'll soon be out of business.
USPS - when it absolutely, positively has to be there sooner or later
So Jeff Bezos isn't following Musk, he's doing his own thing. Musk isn't following Bezos either. Bezos wasn't trying to solve the specific problem that Musk wants to solve, so he started a company to do it. Both generally want to bring down the price of spaceflight, both believe reusable VTVL rockets are the way to do it, but they have very different philosophies on how to get there.
Some privacy policy Slashdot.
A bit after the year 2000, multiple companies tried to develop their own semi reusable rockets. No one knew, which companies would succeed, and which would fail. Many have gone bankrupt, without much to show, like rocketplane inc. Some have gone bankrupt, in spite of being minor successes, like Armadillo Aerospace. I hear that Virgin Galactic has spent half a billion dollars, and still has engine troubles. SpaceX was the most successful. Blue Origin has been a slower, and maybe cheaper, affair. Some have continued plodding away, like Xcor, and Masten.
I think that SpaceX cofounder Tom Mueller is more responsible for the success of SpaceX, than Elon Musk. Tom Mueller was a head rocket engineer at TRW, until he left for SpaceX.
I also think that old space companies in the United States deserve more respect. The big customer, the US govt, demands reliable rockets (successful launches >95% time). ULA, and the Space Shuttle, delivered on that. The nuspace companies want to be cheap, and reliability is not essential...
Still waiting for The Woz to start his own rocket company.