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Apple Watch's Hidden Diagnostic Port To Allow Battery Straps, Innovative Add-Ons

MojoKid writes: Apple's Watch launched two weeks ago to some unbelievable hype and coverage in the press. However, it appears one feature flew under the radar and Apple actually had just one more trick up its sleeve. You see, on one side of the watch face is a hidden door that exposes a 6-pin port. It's assumed that this could be used for diagnostic purposes, but with an Apple Watch in hand, a company by the name of Reserve Strap was able to verify that it could also be used for charging. This seems pretty huge and strange at the same time: why would Apple keep such a thing quiet, when the Apple Watch's battery-life isn't what most people would consider impressive? Even more interesting is the fact that Apple didn't make use of this port to release its own charging straps — watch straps that carry a charge themselves. Apple's lack of transparency here doesn't much matter, though, as the aforementioned Reserve Strap is planning to get such a product to market as soon as possible. The company says about its first offering: "The Reserve Strap will come in White, Gray and Black and will fit both the 38mm and 42mm case sizes. The first batch of straps will be shipped in the Fall.

113 comments

  1. I've had the watch 10 days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    And there hasn't been a day where I thought I'd run out of battery power. I've been wearing it at night, and most mornings I wake up with it still about 30% full. This is the 42mm model.

    1. Re:I've had the watch 10 days by kirkc99 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ditto. I watched battery life closely the first couple days. After that, I haven't given it any thought.

    2. Re:I've had the watch 10 days by Ritz_Just_Ritz · · Score: 1

      And you're bragging about that? Call me crazy, but I'm accustomed to replacing my watch battery every few YEARS. Charging it daily (or when the battery wears down in 6-12 months) twice a day is a complete non-starter.

      This is an interesting device, but a complete fail when it comes to utility.

    3. Re:I've had the watch 10 days by jblues · · Score: 1

      And there hasn't been a day where I thought I'd run out of battery power. I've been wearing it at night, and most mornings I wake up with it still about 30% full. This is the 42mm model.

      With a little prescience we can go one step further than that. I simply strapped an iPhone 3GS onto my wrist. If we look evolution of the original iPhone through to the current iPhone 6+, it doesn't take a genius to see that a 3GS will be very similar in specifications to the iWatch, er, Apple Watch 6+

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    4. Re:I've had the watch 10 days by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      Agreed, no problem on watch battery (at 78% at the end of today). But it seems to be killing my iPhone battery, likely all the low level continuous Bluetooth communication. I know it's supposed to be blue tooth LE. But still my iPhone battery is dying. Anybody else having the same problem?

    5. Re:I've had the watch 10 days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a watch that charges its battery from ambient light (Citizen eco-drive). In practice it will last indefinitely and I will never have to think about it. It takes months in pitch black darkness to run it dry, and if I let that happen all I'd have to do is take it out of that darkness and it would spring back to life 20 minutes later. The manufacturer says it will have 80% capacity after 20 years of use - assuming I don't break it or replace it by then. Barring mechanical damage, it will not go down to day-and-a-half capacity in a human lifetime.

    6. Re:I've had the watch 10 days by marka63 · · Score: 1

      Thats if the band lasts. Mine's broken after 5 years. The metal loop the pin goes through has broken off. Just the wear and tear of taking it on and off once a day.

    7. Re:I've had the watch 10 days by sh00z · · Score: 1

      Yeah, after three years with a "regular" Eco-Drive, I *really* want the model that sets itself with the Atomic Clock in Denver. I'd never have to touch anything again!

    8. Re:I've had the watch 10 days by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Yeah but you're still stuck charging it every day. Unless you want to push it to two days and go without it for 1/2 the second day.

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  2. Used for charging... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...until Apple breaks it for unlicensed third party hardware, that is.

    1. Re:Used for charging... by TWX · · Score: 1

      And here I was, thinking that maybe they'd considered a battery strap, but with the rather public cases of batteries swelling up and bursting or catching fire, they didn't want customers blowing their hands off at the wrists...

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  3. JTAG? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 5, Funny

    well, its apple. so, not a JTAG port but a PRICETAG port, perhaps?

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    1. Re:JTAG? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      maybe a future strap will be used to wirelessly charge the watch,

  4. really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ... why would Apple keep such a thing quiet,

    Uh, so that they have something to roll out in the future with more hype? Maybe share a charge with your iPhone or iPad?

    Some of you guys talk about elite Google engineers, but Apple's marketing prowess and ability is just incredible.

  5. Makes one wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If pebble applied for a patent on it's smartstrap (http://developer.getpebble.com/smartstraps/) technology.

  6. One massive problem potential down... by ilsaloving · · Score: 1

    Plenty more to go. The single biggest one being, of course, only being able to use it with an iPhone. I mean, c'mon... at least give iPad support too!

  7. Battery life non-issue by mveloso · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Apple Watch's battery-life isn't what most people would consider impressive"

    This is yet another bullshit clickbait statement. Never gotten below 30% on mine, even when my phone has run dry.

    1. Re:Battery life non-issue by pla · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Battery life of an existing device won't go up over time.

      If a brand new one has only 30% at the end of the day, a year from now (or an OS update, whichever happens first) you'd better get used to charging your watch at lunch.

    2. Re:Battery life non-issue by geekmux · · Score: 1, Insightful

      "Apple Watch's battery-life isn't what most people would consider impressive"

      This is yet another bullshit clickbait statement. Never gotten below 30% on mine, even when my phone has run dry.

      So, while the device that actually provides real functionality to your iWatch is dead, we're not supposed to believe the bullshit clickbait statements.

      There's a true Apple fan...

    3. Re:Battery life non-issue by Morpeth · · Score: 2

      Let's so, YOUR opinion supersedes everyone else's then? The p1ss poor batter life is a major reason that I didn't get one. I might someday, but ~1 day is crap. That and it's not truly waterproof. Kind of important if your exercise includes the water.

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    4. Re:Battery life non-issue by Morpeth · · Score: 1

      so = see

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    5. Re:Battery life non-issue by vux984 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      a year from now (or an OS update,

      Or he loads up a few more of those apps for it...

    6. Re:Battery life non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not really. Full disclosure: I've got a Pebble Time ordered with 7 days battery life.

      "My Apple Watch never gets below 90%! Sure I'm charging it every 15 minutes, but it's battery life is a non-issue"

      For a watch where a regular watches battery lasts years, a watch with a battery life of a single day at best is hilariously bad.

    7. Re:Battery life non-issue by barc0001 · · Score: 1

      Maybe that's because your standard for impressive is a little different than other peoples? The last watch I wore had a battery that lasted a couple of years. I find the idea of a watch that needs a weekly charge, let alone a daily charge to be abhorrent. MAYBE if it was a replacement for a cellphone I'd be all right with daily charging, but it's not even that. It's a little extension for those people for whom pulling their phone out of their pocket is too much of a bother.

    8. Re:Battery life non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's simply not true. My Moto X gets about the same battery life today as it did when I bought it in 2013. Lithium batteries only get serious wear when charged/discharged outside of the normal operating region. As long as you don't let your watch drain all the way to zero every few days, it should last a good long time.

    9. Re:Battery life non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL that's some desperate criticism.

    10. Re:Battery life non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even Apple themselves say it has an 18 hour battery life so I'm not sure why these people are making some miracle claims about it lasting 24 hours and still having 30% battery life left. Sure if you don't use it (and frankly at this point there isn't much use for it) then it will last ages, but if you are actually using it it is going to run down very fast.

    11. Re:Battery life non-issue by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 0

      "Apple Watch's battery-life isn't what most people would consider impressive"

      This is yet another bullshit clickbait statement. Never gotten below 30% on mine, even when my phone has run dry.

      If the battery lasted until the heat-death of the universe, most people would consider it impressive.
      If the battery lasted until the sun dies, most people would consider it impressive.
      If the battery lasted until the year 2050, most people would consider it impressive.
      If the battery lasted 12 months, most people would consider it impressive.
      If the battery lasted a month, most people would consider it impressive.
      If the battery lasted a week, most people would consider it acceptable.

      At a week's battery life, the Pebble is acceptable. Not impressive. Acceptable.

      That your watch battery's lifespan is "until lunch time tomorrow" isn't impressive. It's somewhere on the border of "good enough" and "requires too much maintenance".

      Having to charge something daily that you wear isn't convenient. Yeah, it's definitely a 1st-world problem, but it's nowhere near as reasonable as charging your phone daily, where it's not strapped to your body all the time.

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    12. Re:Battery life non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      For a watch where a regular watches battery lasts years, a watch with a battery life of a single day at best is hilariously bad.

      They may be calling it a 'watch' but it's a bit more than just a electric motor that turns three dials in circles so if you can convince yourself to stop regarding this device as a watch and see it as a wrist mounted tablet perhaps the battery life is less disappointing.

    13. Re:Battery life non-issue by Noah+Haders · · Score: 2

      Used to be that you had to wind watches every night, I don't recall people complaining.

    14. Re:Battery life non-issue by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 1

      Used to be that you had to wind watches every night, I don't recall people complaining.

      Seriously? Ten seconds of twisting a knob is the same as taking the watch off and leaving it plugged in for the couple hours it takes to fully charge, during which you can't use it?

      Also, people used to not complain that you couldn't tell time on cloudy days because the sundial didn't work. Progress is progressive. The Apple Watch's battery lifespan isn't impressive which is what the person I replied to was pretty bombastically disputing. I reiterate: it's acceptable. But you already knew that.

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    15. Re:Battery life non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For my entire life, my dive watches have all be marked water resistant to $NUMBER meters.

      For watches, water resistant to a depth of, *is* *functionally* *the* *same* as WATERPROOF until stated depth.

      Water resistant for watches does not mean can take a splash, it means can be submerged to a depth of ...

      If you were alive when we all had tan line and watches, you would know this.

    16. Re:Battery life non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd rather just get a Microsoft Band. It does everything that I could want a watch to do and it has a 48 hour battery life.

      Sometime eventually, when an E Ink watch is produced, they could last weeks between charges.

    17. Re:Battery life non-issue by ATMAvatar · · Score: 1

      It also took just a few seconds to wind that watch, making it a minor inconvenience. How long does it take to charge an iWatch?

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    18. Re:Battery life non-issue by chasm22 · · Score: 1

      Who's piling up the bullshit? Two people in a row with the same answer. 'My watch has never gone below 30%.' You don't even bother to provide a time period over which your watch has never gotten below the magical 30% mark.

      Here's what we can assume from your statement. ____
      You haven't told anyone a thing. Like how long did it go without a charge? And more importantly, how many apps did you use and for how long? Because, again, you told us nothing. If you are just wearing it as a fashion statement, well I'm thinking you're in with about 90% of the purchasers. But that won't keep us from seeing bullshit clickbait articles about 'killer' apps for the watch. Oh, sorry, I guess I borrowed some of those words from you. But I've seen at least a dozen bullshit clickbait articles already spinning about the next 'killer' app for the watch. And I think about the next article I'll see about 'new rumors' about the iWatch 2. And '6 things you didn't know your iWatch could do'. In other words, when it comes to bullshit clickbait articles, most of the bullshit flows in one direction.

    19. Re:Battery life non-issue by supremebob · · Score: 2

      #3 will shock you!

    20. Re:Battery life non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actually it's based on some pretty sound principles:

      • Lithium Ion battery degradation
      • The fact that Apple products' resource usage increases as more updates are released and functionality increases (for just one example the significant decreases in battery life using iOS 8+ particularly on iPhone 4 & 5)
      • That the currently limited functionality and applications will be expanded, thus requiring more battery power
    21. Re:Battery life non-issue by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      We complained, believe me. That's why I was so fond of my old self-winding wristwatch. It wasn't as precise as some, but but it was quite effective.

    22. Re:Battery life non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ten seconds of twisting a knob is the same as taking the watch off and leaving it plugged in for the couple hours it takes to fully charge, during which you can't use it?

      Most people get at least "a couple hours" of sleep every night. How is "Twist the knob to wind it up, then sleep for 6 hours," all that different from "Connect watch to charger, then sleep for 6 hours"?

      While it'd be nice if the watch got a lifetime of use on a single charge... given the typical schedule most people keep, I fail to see how "charge it every night while you sleep" is all that onerous. I do the same thing with my phone already, so if I bought one of these, I'd have no problem sitting it right next to my phone on its charger on the night stand next to my bed.

      I mean, I get that Slashdot is full of overgrown man-children who can't find their own ass with both hands and a flashlight, but not everybody needs mommy to remind them to charge their stuff up at night - some of us actually manage to lead productive lives full of enough self discipline that we can manage not to end up showing up to work with no pants on because nobody reminded us to put them on.

      I'm seriously struggling to find any reasonable sense of moral outrage over a "mere" 18 hours of battery life on an electronic device that straps to my wrist.

    23. Re:Battery life non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here is the thing, I can charge my phone, while it is right where I can scoop it up as I walk past, I would have to unstrap my watch to charge it. The thing with mechanical watches(and I own a couple) is that you can take ten seconds to do it, at any time, and have the thing continue to function perfectly, the apple watch, if I forget to charge it while I sleep, is not useful.
      I can use my phone while it is plugged in, I cannot use a watch when the area my wrist needs to be in is occupied by a giant coil. I can wind a watch without taking it off, I cannot charge an apple watch while wearing it.
      It's got some of the advantages of both(Not many), and all the disadvantages, with a few new flaws all it's own.

    24. Re:Battery life non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Here is the thing, I can charge my phone, while it is right where I can scoop it up as I walk past, I would have to unstrap my watch to charge it.

      Really? That's the big objection? Exactly how long, and how out of breath, do you expect to get unstrapping a watch from your wrist? Mechanically, it's not much more significant an effort than pulling a phone out of your pocket... so why is "unstrap watch, plug in to charge" so much more excessive?

      I know this may sound shocking, but not everybody needs to be connected to the technology tit 24 hours a day. If you are "so important" that you need to be, may I suggest that you use your no-doubt immense purchasing power to simply buy two watches, and swap watches every 12 hours? Your butler or your mom can probably remind you to switch them.

      Seriously, you have the largest case of first world problems I've ever heard.

    25. Re:Battery life non-issue by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      It's a device with an accelerometer, heart rate monitor, and other sensors that would be immensely useful for sleep tracking. Unfortunately, despite being the best equipped for that task, sensor-wise, it's useless for the job simply due to its battery. Sure, the Pebble Time I ordered as an upgrade to my Pebble doesn't have a heart rate monitor on it, but at least I'll be able to wear it every night for sleep tracking and throw it on the charger when I go out to detail my car (or my wife's) on Sunday.

      As an added insult to the Apple Watch: When offered an Apple Watch, my wife, an Apple fan who hates hand-me-downs, asked if she could have my old Pebble when the Pebble Time arrives.

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    26. Re:Battery life non-issue by Bogtha · · Score: 1

      If a brand new one has only 30% at the end of the day, a year from now (or an OS update, whichever happens first) you'd better get used to charging your watch at lunch.

      You're being ridiculous. No OS update or battery degradation over a year is going to reduce the capacity to less than half. The battery itself is is rated to retain 80% capacity for a thousand cycles and battery tech is pretty predictable.

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    27. Re:Battery life non-issue by Bogtha · · Score: 3, Insightful

      For a watch where a regular watches battery lasts years, a watch with a battery life of a single day at best is hilariously bad.

      But nobody needs a watch battery to last years though - the comparison is meaningless. People don't use their watches while they sleep - charging every night in exchange for the extra functionality is a good deal for most people.

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    28. Re:Battery life non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously? Ten seconds of twisting a knob is the same as taking the watch off and leaving it plugged in for the couple hours it takes to fully charge, during which you can't use it?

      I imagine owners of apple products spend much longer than this twisting a knob just looking at their shiny product each evening, which is it's primary utility.

    29. Re:Battery life non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wouldn't someone not attached to the technology tit just have a normal watch?

    30. Re: Battery life non-issue by jo7hs2 · · Score: 1

      This is exactly why I will not be buying a first generation Apple Watch. I have wicked terminal (morning, not fatal) insomnia and currently use a Basis B1 for sleep tracking, so I can assess the effectiveness of various treatment. It has accelerometer, heart rate tracking, skin temperature, and galvanic skin response tracking, making it a fairly capable sleep tracker. However, it is hobbled by several factors: a plastic face that is easily scratched, the inability to see sleep data on the device, poor tracking of sleep onset and awakenings (sometimes misses I GOT OUT OF BED!!!), and terrible support for data export with no HealthKit integration (hell, just to get raw data I have to use the app for their new product the Basis Peak, it isn't available from the website). It also only gets 3-5 days of battery life under light use. I had hoped the Apple Watch would prove to be a more capable sleep tracker based on early reports about the sensors and data integration, but unfortunately the battery life means it has to charge overnight, and Apple hasn't even included any advanced sleep tracking features. This was a major disappointment. Right now I'm still waiting for a new product to come along...I won't be buying anything from Basis ever again (my B1, aside from the failings above, has been in for warranty repairs TWICE in a year). I've seen a Kickstarter for an EEG solution slated to come out this fall, maybe that'll finally be the tracker for me.

    31. Re:Battery life non-issue by LordNightwalker · · Score: 1

      People don't use their watches while they sleep - charging every night in exchange for the extra functionality is a good deal for most people.

      Depends on how you use it. I use my Pebble for sleep tracking, and it vibrates in the morning when my alarm goes off.

      Yes, I could do without that; I just use it 'coz it's there. Then again, I can also do without all the "bloat" they seem to be adding to smart watches. Trading in the extra functionality for longer operational time between charges is a good deal to me. I don't need a miniature tablet on my wrist, I just want something that notifies me of incoming calls, SMS, emails and IMs, and calendar events, so I don't have to dig my phone out of my pocket every time it beeps for attention.

      To be honest though, I haven't taken too close a look at other smart watch offerings. So maybe the extra functionality could be nice to have. It's just that at the moment, I can't envision anything I'd want to use my smartwatch for that I can't already do with the Pebble.

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    32. Re: Battery life non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First the watch battery isn't good. Then it's too good because the phone battery isn't. Just stop, dude, you're obviously dead set against Apple products.

    33. Re:Battery life non-issue by weilawei · · Score: 2

      He wasn't suggesting it would reduce capacity, but increase consumption.

    34. Re:Battery life non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And this is why we have different products.

      Just like with mobile phones. Or chairs. Or well anything really.

      See I don't need my chair to have speakers. So this is not aimed at me. However, as I'm only a little bit of a douchbag I don't go on ever article about chairs bitching about how silly that chair is.

    35. Re:Battery life non-issue by devilspgd · · Score: 2

      The issue is that, at the moment, no apps are really running on the Apple Watch itself, but rather, the display is basically streamed over Bluetooth from the connected iPhone. Once apps run on the watch itself, the situation will change.

      Now whether it ends up being better or worse is anyone's guess, it will probably depend on the apps and implementation details, but I would expect that for most apps, it won't reduce power consumption.

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    36. Re:Battery life non-issue by Bogtha · · Score: 1

      I would expect that for most apps, it won't reduce power consumption.

      Why would you expect that? What apps will be able to do will be extremely curtailed - e.g. they will probably follow the original iPhone model of halting the process whenever the user isn't using it. Aside from the display, the radio is probably the biggest power draw on the system, plus there won't be any length negotiation with the phone, so having non-background applications run directly on the device will probably help battery life, not harm it.

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    37. Re: Battery life non-issue by geekmux · · Score: 1

      First the watch battery isn't good. Then it's too good because the phone battery isn't. Just stop, dude, you're obviously dead set against Apple products.

      I run a Macbook and a Mac Mini at home. I own two cell phones, one of which is an iPhone.

      Nice try though.

    38. Re:Battery life non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember, with Mactards and iPhonies anything less than a positively glowing endorsement of an Apple product is viewed as bullshit biased clickbait.

      Ignore them, they're just insects.

    39. Re:Battery life non-issue by devilspgd · · Score: 1

      I guess it depends on the scope of applications, but I expect that typical apps will still use the radio to update data, but as they go native on the watch they'll start to do processing on the watch itself.

      We'll have to wait and see, it really depends on what sort of apps end up being popular.

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  8. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The innovation never stops, this is so exciting. You can now charge your watch, I believe I may pee my pants.

  9. Water Resistance? by kirkc99 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The diagnostic port is hidden by a cover. I'd be interested to see if removing the cover adversely affect's the watch's water resistance. Also, having those electrical connections directly exposed to water, sweat, etc. cannot be good.

    1. Re:Water Resistance? by kirkc99 · · Score: 1

      *affects. Pardon the stray apostrophe.

    2. Re:Water Resistance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Other smartwatch makers also have diagnostic ports. IIRC, Motorola has a USB port with pogo pins which can be accessed, but it requires a custom cable to be made for reliable contact to the Moto 360.

      I wouldn't be surprised to see Apple use eFuse technology in their next rev of watches so the pins are fried (and thus unusable) once they pass factory testing.

      Of course, some seal broken on the cover (or just the fact the cover is off) can likely result in Apple not honoring the device's warranty as well.

    3. Re:Water Resistance? by necro81 · · Score: 1

      Most every GPS watch produced by Garmin, Suunto, Polar, etc. has exposed gold contacts on the back face or edge for charging and syncing (usually over USB). Such watches are used by active people doing sweaty activities in all kinds of conditions: triathletes, hikers, bikers, etc. Gold contacts embedded in plastic does not present a water ingress problem (nor, except for a few isolated cases, adverse skin reactions). Doing it properly requires good design and manufacturing control, but Apple has made a brand out of doing just that.

  10. Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple will release a patch to block that function, just you wait.

  11. Is this a joke? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Almost every device has a connection for diagnostics, firmware writing, etc... So, is this just an ad for the company making the strap?

  12. We must be grateful and thank the mighty by ModernGeek · · Score: 1

    For transparency doesn't give us the courage to find these hidden treasures which have been bestowed upon us.
     
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  13. Water resistance? by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

    There's a few reasons I can imagine Apple was mum on this. Either it just really isn't actually useful, or meant to be released, or the software/frameworks aren't ready for primetime.

    Still, my biggest concern is water resistance. It's exposed pins and it's a wearable. I can't imagine a strap alone is going to help matters here. Right now the watch can survive in relatively shallow depths for short amounts of time, but I wonder if it'll even survive getting dripped on with the diagnostic port exposed.

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  14. It's not a diagnostic port... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...it's an App Port! Use an App Cable to connect App Apps to your Apple App! Apps!

  15. Lawsuit by jklovanc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Wait for Apple to sue them like they sued these guys.

    1. Re:Lawsuit by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      If there was a patent on the diagnostic port we could just look up what it does.

    2. Re:Lawsuit by PapayaSF · · Score: 1

      Wait for Apple to sue them like they sued these guys.

      Very possible, given that Apple has already patented a flexible battery that looks like a watch strap.

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  16. Sealed connectors by sjbe · · Score: 5, Informative

    Right now the watch can survive in relatively shallow depths for short amounts of time, but I wonder if it'll even survive getting dripped on with the diagnostic port exposed.

    You are aware that sealed connectors are a thing, yes? I run a company that makes wire harnesses and it is a pretty straight forward exercise to make a water tight sealed connector good to reasonable depths. (It's very easy if you don't care about bulk) I don't know if this is the case here but I suspect it wouldn't be terribly hard for Apple to make a port water tight when open or connected. You could have corrosion of the pins over time, particularly with salt water but it would have to be pretty bad to compromise the seal.

    1. Re:Sealed connectors by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Look at the picture! It is just a line of metallic contacts. Easy peasy to make waterproof. The pointy parts are going to be on the band.

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    2. Re: Sealed connectors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I have a 2-pin connector on the side of my watch-style Suunto D6 dive computer. That's good to depths of 200 metres or more, so this is existing, well-established engineering...

  17. Re:Who cares. Apple's watch is a joke. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who cares. Apple's watch is a joke. Only idiots would buy it.

    If I felt like I was surrounded by idiots before, how exactly is this going to help point them out?

  18. Is this considered a paid post? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It seems like this post is an ad for the company Reserve strap. Disguised as a news story.

    1. Re:Is this considered a paid post? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course it is, look who posted it.

  19. What? by Dunbal · · Score: 1
    According to the summary:

    but with an Apple Watch in hand

    Might I be the first to point out that if you have your Apple Watch in your hand you are probably doing it wrong...

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  20. Apple may not keep that port forever by steveha · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I remember the first model of iMac had an undocumented card slot. People speculated that Apple used the card slot for factory diagnostics on the iMacs; third-party companies took advantage of the slot to add 3D accelerators; and then Apple revised the iMac design and left that port out.

    http://www.macworld.com/article/1014902/imacboards.html

    If Apple hasn't announced the port, the port may be gone from the next iWatch release.

    Likely the problem is that there aren't enough patents on the port. Perhaps Apple will add a documented expansion port once they find some patents to encumber it.

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    1. Re:Apple may not keep that port forever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, the port shipped, so it's not patentable because it is prior art. Are you seriously that clueless about patent eligibility of invention?

    2. Re:Apple may not keep that port forever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, the port shipped, so it's not patentable because it is prior art.

      I'll just quote GP, it's very simple and should be easy enough to understand if you just read it again:
      Likely the problem is that there aren't enough patents on the port. Perhaps Apple will add a documented expansion port once they find some patents to encumber it.

      Are you seriously that clueless about patent eligibility of invention?

      Well his post quite clearly stated that he thinks the current diagnostic port (that could be used for expansion theoretically) lacks patent encumberment and as such they will add a documented, patent encumbered one later.

    3. Re:Apple may not keep that port forever by steveha · · Score: 1

      Dude, are you seriously this worked-up about a throwaway joke?

      In any event, as the other AC noted, I was suggesting that this shipped port would never be official as it is not patented, and that a future watch would have a different and patented port.

      My little bit of snark is somewhat founded on fact: Apple really does like to patent their connectors. MagSafe power connector: patented. Lightning: patented. So it is possible that Apple is going to keep this connector unofficial and undocumented, and later release a documented and patented connector. But really I was just having a bit of fun there.

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    4. Re:Apple may not keep that port forever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh ... I suppose you didn't realize that you can file for a patent up to 12 months after public disclosure.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P...

    5. Re:Apple may not keep that port forever by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Dude, are you seriously this worked-up about a throwaway joke?

      Dude, are you seriously surprised by a crazed AC in a discussion about an Apple product on Slashdot? Really?

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  21. Battery strap not such a good idea. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I've had the misfortune of having a Li-Ion battery enter thermal runaway while I was holding it, luckily I managed to drop it with only minor burns and some lightly melted clothing (the floor wasn't so lucky) I know people already carry these things around in their pocket and such, but wrapping one round you wrist is another matter, especially when you consider all the extra opportunities for puncturing the cells. Someone, somewhere, is going to end up with their hand amputated and cauterized in very quick succession.

  22. iphone to watch charger by schlachter · · Score: 1

    I'm waiting for Apple to put a charger in their iPhone so that you can place ur Apple Watch on ur iPhone for a quick partial charge.

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  23. My watch is kinetic and never dies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't imagine having to deal with another freaking technology product that I have to charge. Especially one I have to pay Apple a premium for. The day I can't reach into my pocket and use my smartphone is the day I loose both arms and won't need a watch either.

  24. Wrong target group by gnasher719 · · Score: 0

    A hidden port is surely something that appeals to any geek. But geeks are not the ones buying an Apple Watch. What will it look like if you attach anything to this hidden port? Dead ugly? In that case, nobody who buys an Apple Watch will want it.

  25. Why are you so surprised? by Bogtha · · Score: 3, Insightful

    why would Apple keep such a thing quiet

    Because it's a sealed diagnostic port for a non-end-user serviceable product, not a feature. They aren't wishing anything up, it's just not something they have a reason to publicise.

    when the Apple Watch's battery-life isn't what most people would consider impressive?

    Actually, people's opinions on this are very mixed. Some people are reporting great battery life and improved battery life on their iPhone as well as they switch the screen on less. Some people report the opposite. Chances are, people who have just got a new gadget are playing with it all day, which obviously isn't representative of normal usage patterns or battery life.

    Apple's lack of transparency here doesn't much matter, though

    Why are you describing lack of publicity about a sealed diagnostic port for non-end-user serviceable goods as a "lack of transparency"? That is bizarre. You wouldn't expect that for any other company, let alone Apple.

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    1. Re:Why are you so surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every end product is user serviceable, companies would just rather you didn't

    2. Re:Why are you so surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't believe it actually has to be spelled out that what he means is that it "isn't meant to be user serviceable", just so some adenoidal dweeb like you doesn't come along with an oh technically all products are user serviceable. For fuck sake get a clue.

  26. Can't wait for Apple to remove the port! by mekkab · · Score: 1

    Next hardware rev they'll remove the port, or worse, just slightly change the configuration of pins and size.

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  27. we'll call it by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 5, Funny

    So you have innovative straps and also adds ons. We'll call it the iStrapOn

  28. Apple is controlling and mercural by swb · · Score: 1

    About their platforms, especially the iPhones. I would expect them to be as or more so with a watch. I wouldn't expect this port to remain usable, in the same configuration or even be there in the future. Because that's how they work.

    Most of the time I sort of buy the benevolence in their designs (ie, the lighting port on phones) although generally speaking I think they're too controlling and they actually limit things you can use the devices for.

    But if you discover something that hasn't been advertised as for a speciic function, don't be disappointed when they take it away.

  29. I have an idea by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    Perhaps Apple don't want to put their name on a flexible strap tied around your wrist containing a lithium battery.

    It would be a PR nightmare if it caught fire. I don't think flexible battery technology is as mature as non-flexible batteries.

  30. Innovative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Innovative" = "Same stuff that has been around forever. But on a watch!"

  31. so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what are the chances that a strap that incorporating piezo electrics could be used to charge an Apple Watch?

  32. One day battery life for a watch!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Criminy, the battery in my watch lasts a couple of years on a single charge.

    Of course I only use my watch to tell time, or, in a pinch, to navigate.

  33. Band would seem to cover port pretty well... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    The diagnostic port is hidden by a cover. I'd be interested to see if removing the cover adversely affect's the watch's water resistance.

    It may somewhat, but given that the port itself is located under the round part of the band that slides into the watch, it seems like it would be sealed away fairly well (especially if you designed the strap with that in mind).

    It seems pretty sure sweat would not be able to get in there, really only submersion would have a chance.

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  34. I think it may be for development by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    One of the things I was thinking the port was there for, was probably when developers could build native apps for the phone - since it would be a little pokey to ship debug builds and running debug info over wireless to the watch, a development cable would be a great idea.

    It's probably also for Apple Store employees to run diagnostics (not sure if they have equipment for that yet).

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  35. It's not really meant for that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The diagnostics port offers a direct power input that bypasses the majority of the induction charging circuitry because all that stuff is software controlled. Under certain (and very rare) circumstances, it might be possible to damage the watch in such a way that it becomes impossible to charge using the included accessories. For that reason and that reason only, the diagnostics port offers a guaranteed ability to charge and power the watch so any software related repairs can be made.

    Just to be clear, the diagnostics port was NOT designed for external "battery" straps. There is zero API feedback through the kernel or software stack that would allow you to monitor the level of an externally connected battery, nor is there any way to "charge" a battery strap through the same port (so your strap is going to need its own charging circuitry and external power plug). We don't even have full support for that port in the kernel, the watch won't actually say that you've plugged it into an external AC source if you have the recovery adapter plugged in, the battery level will just start rising until it hits 100% and stay there.

    Likewise, there is almost no reason to have any kind of power present at that port when the watch is fully booted with the consumer software. I have a feeling that if people start manufacturing straps like this, it isn't going to be long before the software guys lockout the booted watch UI if anything is detected on that port, and the accessory manufactures will have absolutely zero recourse because this kind of operation is totally and utterly unsupported.

    TLDR; the diagnostic port accepts power for recovery purposes. Don't bet on any accessories abusing this fact to continue working for very long.

    1. Re:It's not really meant for that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Charging completely transparent to the API? Just a direct contact to the battery? That actually sounds nice, and should be an option on every consumer electronics device.

  36. Apple suing in ... by garry_g · · Score: 1

    ... 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

  37. Battery Band by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of the things I really expected to see out of the Apple Watch was an active battery in the band. The placement of this port really makes me wonder if that wasn't one of their original intentions.

  38. I thought we already covered this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This was supposed to be a developer port that, I thought, Apple themselves said wouldn't be usable in the production model.

  39. Once a week by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

    Once a watch can go a week without being charged, then I will consider.

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    1. Re:Once a week by q4Fry · · Score: 1
  40. While you're at it by BadPirate · · Score: 1

    *effects

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  41. It's a Literal Back Door by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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