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Microsoft: No More 'Patch Tuesday' For Windows 10 Home Users

citpyrc writes: According to the Register, Microsoft is making some changes to how it rolls out updates in Windows 10. Home users will receive updates as they come out, rather than queueing them all up on "patch Tuesday." Business users will have the option to set their own update cycle, so they can see if any of the patches accidentally break anything for home users before trying them out. There will also be an optional peer-to-peer updating mechanism for Windows 10. Microsoft announced a service called Advanced Threat Analytics, which employs various machine learning techniques to identify malware on a network. As a premium service, top-dollar customers can pay for Microsoft to monitor black-hat forums and alert the company if any of its employees' identities are stolen.

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  1. Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's interesting how this habit by Microsoft has become embedded in the IT operations of many companies.

    It will be cool to see if what the effects are (ie. what breaks) with this change since it's "process" change much more than an a technical change. Often, that's where the biggest challenges are since dependencies and other factors are often invisible at first glance.

    1. Re:Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd be interested in knowing how often Microsoft updates Windows Server Update Services services

      Not to be pedantic, but the question is how often Windows Update updates Windows Server Update Services services.

    2. Re:Interesting by bondsbw · · Score: 3, Informative

      Except that I don't want "all my machines" patched next Tuesday - maybe my Dev boxes on Tuesday, my QA boxes on Wednesday, and if all goes well maybe my production boxes on late Friday night.

      Setting this up is already possible via group policy.

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    3. Re:Interesting by hairyfeet · · Score: 2

      Which is why I don't understand the big deal, as all this does is give that same ability to the common folk.

      For those that haven't kept up with the Win 10 Insiders Blog with Windows 10 you have basically two roads...on one road you have "fast" which to make a comparison the /. crowd would be able to relate to? Think of it as the "bleeding edge" branch. That branch will not only get security updates but it will get the "latest and greatest" new features but in return they will have to deal with being on the cutting edge. Then you have the "slow" road, which would be your "stable" branch, those guys will only get the critical to important security patches, no optional or extra stuff, and from what the blog has been saying you'll be able to choose whether to get them when they are released or you can choose which day of the month you want 'em with a few clicks of the GUI.

      So I don't see why anybody would bitch when this is EXACTLY what many here have asked for, those that WANT the bling and bells and whistles can choose that branch, and those of us that just want a Windows workstation without the extra crap? Its one simple drop down box away....sounds like Nadella has again actually listened to those that use his product and given them what they want, and you'd think after getting this response from the Linux devs when being told nobody wanted systemd? You'd think an OS listening to its users would be a breath of fresh air!

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  2. Are you sure that option isn't already on? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2

    >> Home users will receive updates as they come out

    Are you sure that option isn't already on? It seems that a couple of my older Windows boxes already spend most of their cycles on downloading, processing (scanning) and installing countless updates.

    1. Re:Are you sure that option isn't already on? by erebus2161 · · Score: 2

      Yeah, that is what it means. The summary said so. You don't have to read between the lines, just read the actual lines. And personally, I say its about time. 99% of home users can't be trusted to apply patches themselves and just end up becoming bots that ruin the Internet for the rest of us.

  3. Excitedly waiting for my computer to break by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Business users will have the option to set their own update cycle, so they can see if any of the patches accidentally break anything for home users before trying them out.

    Looking at the The Register article, apparently Terry Myerson himself actually said the above. So home users are now officially crash test dummies for Microsoft's quality assurance? Cool, buckle me up.

  4. Remember that Windows XP virus? by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...the one that seemed to be impossible to get rid of, that at least once PC in every office had, that would suddenly, several times a day, put up a pop-up announcing the PC was going to reboot in 30 seconds? (Was it Blaster, or was Blaster the easy-to-remove version?)

    Yeah. Welcome to the new update regime for Windows 10 Home Edition...

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  5. Re:Home PCs are fast disappearing by g0bshiTe · · Score: 2

    It will and it won't be a tablet or chrome book or netbook that replaces it, it won't even be an iPad.

    It'll be your smartphone itself. It'll be your work computer and your home computer all on one device with a bluetooth or some other wifi connection to pass video to a full sized monitor keyboard and mouse.

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  6. Patch Tuesday was flawed by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 2

    The big problem with Patch Tuesday was that most exploits from the following Wednesday on wouldn't get fixed for a month. MS should get rid of that.

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    1. Re:Patch Tuesday was flawed by fisted · · Score: 2

      Yeah, it's really a shame that there's only one Tuesday per month. If only they had picked a different day...

  7. Oh, no... by alvieboy · · Score: 2

    So... they will have to reboot daily from this point onwards ?
    And wait for extra 15 minutes before leaving work ?

    Oh god. Bring back patch Tuesday.

  8. Re:Home PCs are fast disappearing by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2

    It will and it won't be a tablet or chrome book or netbook that replaces it, it won't even be an iPad.

    It'll be your smartphone itself. It'll be your work computer and your home computer all on one device with a bluetooth or some other wifi connection to pass video to a full sized monitor keyboard and mouse.

    Aint matching my dual screen monitors and my raid 0 ssd and i7. Yes I am an IT professional, but others who need real work done at home (the original IBM PC users) will keep it run office and a real screen.

    No a crappy docking station with the mobile version of office won't suffice. At that price you might as well get the real PC.

    However, Windows 8.1 is great on a surface or tablet and Windows 10 can do both and run ported Android and IOS apps. My guess is it won't be phone vs pc. It will be one where a real Desktop and monitor is needed for real work and not a gimped OS with no file system.

  9. Re:Always turn off auto update anyway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not sure how Win10 will turn out once it's final, but in the preview editions, you can't turn off autoupdate. You only control your reboot schedule, somewhat. If MS pushes out a patch, you either disconnect from the Internet or you download it, eventually. If you have to roll back a bad driver that you got this way, it'll keep making you redownload and reinstall the driver, again and again, and there's no practical way to stop it without some serious PowerShell hackery that might break Windows Update entirely.

    It's one of Win10's worst features to date.

  10. Re:random breakage by roc97007 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Score "troll", seriously? Who among us here hasn't had to fix breakage from a drive-by update?

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  11. Re:Home PCs are fast disappearing by H0p313ss · · Score: 2

    I think there's three markets here: (and my numbers are complete bullshit)

    1. Joe Public, needs a web browser and perhaps a word processor (90% of the old PC market)
    Solution: a cellphone, perhaps with docking station and external monitor (TV)

    2. Advanced office user and 50% of developers and gamers (9% of the old PC market)
    Solution: Something like the Surface tablets, with docking station and external monitor

    3) Real power users and gamers with more money than sense (1% of the old PC market)
    Solution: Workstation calibre desktops

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  12. Re:random breakage by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah, no kidding. I predict Microsoft is 100% guaranteed to mess up a LOT of machines. I don't trust *any* vendor's patches on day one, and Microsoft even less.

    If Microsoft thinks they're not going to be pilloried by saying "fuck it, we're updating your machine and rebooting now" they're idiots.

    If Microsoft just goes ahead and does them, they're going to create a support nightmare as they'll fuck up machines left and right.

    When will Microsoft learn that there is a reason why we don't trust them?

    Sorry guys, but I'll apply patched and reboot my computer when I choose to, not when some idiot in Redmond decides for me. it's my property, not yours.

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