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Is Facebook Keeping You In a Political Bubble?

sciencehabit writes: Does Facebook make it harder for people with different political views to get along? Political scientists have long wondered whether the social network's news feed selectively serves up ideologically charged news while filtering out content from different camps. Now, a study by Facebook's in-house social scientists finds that this does happen, though the effect seems to be very small. "There's a growing concern that social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter allow us to more precisely engineer our informational environments than ever before, so we only get info that's consistent with our prior beliefs," says David Lazer, a political and computer scientist who authored a commentary on the paper.

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  1. Who gets their political news from Facebook? by H0p313ss · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah I know, the great unwashed.

    Sad world.

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    1. Re:Who gets their political news from Facebook? by turkeydance · · Score: 4, Interesting

      not just political news...ALL the news they will see (my nieces and nephews, for example).

    2. Re:Who gets their political news from Facebook? by H0p313ss · · Score: 2

      I don't get my news from Slashdot either, you dirty, dirty men.

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    3. Re:Who gets their political news from Facebook? by readin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But there are many many many people who use facebook regularly and the major players have to pander to them because the facebook viewers have a lot of votes.

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    4. Re:Who gets their political news from Facebook? by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      The problem that I see is so many people are stuck in their political ideology. And put the same faith in it as they would in a religion. (Sometimes causing confusion on what started their stance)
      So they will not try to comprehend what they are saying, and jump to the worst case scenario and show how stupid the idea was.
      We are taking the headlines and establishing them as truth or fiction. We are not reading an article to get the actual facts.

      I got a headline that Obama policy is causing X to increase where it was suppose to decrease.
      I am Lucky enough to have access with the actual data, so I crunched the numbers and found no change.
      I read the article it was based on a poll on if they felt it is more or less then before.
      So they are reporting on feelings not actual data.

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  2. Dude, my mom's on Woo Woo by xeno · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, because I dropped Facebook a couple of years ago. Too narrow a view on the world, too much of a social/political/financial echo chamber, too prying re personal detail, too much advertising, and too much extremely-creepy influence on ads I see externally. I miss a *little* of the content, but most of it was OCD junk from distant relatives and bloviating nonsense from industry "thought leaders". Good riddance.

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    1. Re:Dude, my mom's on Woo Woo by the+grace+of+R'hllor · · Score: 2

      but i (hopefully) i expect a (honest) criticism

      You must be new here.

  3. Search engines are doing the same by rubenerd · · Score: 2

    DuckDuckGo and the like made a big deal about the big players doing search engine bubbling. Depending on who you are, you get different results.

    I don't use Facebook enough to comment on that, but I'd imagine the echo chamber would be deafening.

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  4. No, but your own choices are. by Etcetera · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you de-friend someone (or large groups of someones), their stories are basically not going to be on your feed in the first place, and liberals have been shown to be more likely to de-friend conservatives over political differences than conservatives de-friend liberals http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/10/21/liberals-are-more-likely-to-unfriend-you-over-politics-online-and-off/

    Unless you're a complete recluse or are making a conscious effort to sequester yourself from any popular culture, it's virtually impossible to be in your teens or 20's and not be exposed to various legitimate liberal political stances -- most often during college years. OTOH, it's quite easy to never interact with any "real life" legitimate conservative arguments, other than straw men that the liberal political arguments are using.

    Thus you end up with 25 year olds who have no basic understanding of conservative economic principles, or presume that there's no other possible motiviation for some random socially conservative policy than abject hatred and/or slavish religious belief.

    1. Re:No, but your own choices are. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Thus you end up with 25 year olds who have no basic understanding of conservative economic principles, or presume that there's no other possible motiviation for some random socially conservative policy than abject hatred and/or slavish religious belief.

      Which differs from XX year olds who have no basic understanding of liberal principles, or presume that there's no other possible motivation for some random liberal policy than abject hatred (especially of America!) and/or slavish devotion to the government that is stealing their money/freedom/religion in what way exactly?

      Why exactly has that base riled up over Jade Helm anyway? And why shouldn't we unfriend them? There's nothing to hear but noise..

    2. Re:No, but your own choices are. by Etcetera · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Which differs from XX year olds who have no basic understanding of liberal principles, or presume that there's no other possible motivation for some random liberal policy than abject hatred (especially of America!) and/or slavish devotion to the government that is stealing their money/freedom/religion in what way exactly?

      My point is that's is very hard to NOT have a "basic understanding of liberal principles", because they're the "default" view you see in most media and entertainment, and in most humanities coursework. "Income inequality is ipso facto bad" and "raise the minimum wage" are not difficult to understand the meaning behind; there's no need to assert a hatred of America. OTOH, "raising the minimum wage won't really help" is not easy to understand (at first), and it's quite simple to simply assert that someone who'd say that is "greedy" and wants more money, screwing over everyone else, and leave it at that.

    3. Re:No, but your own choices are. by Guy+Harris · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If you de-friend someone (or large groups of someones), their stories are basically not going to be on your feed in the first place, and liberals have been shown to be more likely to de-friend conservatives over political differences than conservatives de-friend liberals http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/10/21/liberals-are-more-likely-to-unfriend-you-over-politics-online-and-off/

      Perhaps because, as the article you cite says:

      However, that doesn't mean liberals necessarily like all of the ideas they see. Consistent liberals were the most likely group to block or unfriend someone because they disagreed with their political postings, with 44 percent saying they had "hidden, blocked, defriended, or stopped following someone" on Facebook due to their political postings. Only roughly one-third (31 percent) of consistent conservatives had done the same -- although this might be attributable to lower levels of ideological diversity in their online ecosystem.

      And that conservative echochamber isn't limited to conservatives' online interactions: It's a reflection of the lack of ideological diversity in their real life relationships. Two-thirds of consistent conservatives told Pew that most of their close friends share their views on government and politics, compared to just over half, or 52 percent, of consistent liberals. For mostly conservatives, 42 percent of their close friends have the same views, while just 26 percent of mostly liberals respondents who said the same.

      so maybe liberals have more conservative "friends" to de-"friend" than conservatives have liberal "friends" to de-"friend".

    4. Re: No, but your own choices are. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And I don't agree with your point as it seems quite easy for people to misunderstand liberal principles and dismiss them with handy mantras and slogans. Like for the minimum wage, where those who are advocating for such are waved off as lazy, greedy for other people's money and otherwise derided.

      Treating liberals an America haters is indeed unnecessary though, but it is strongly favored and quite easy to do.

      If people are actually working hard at this kind of thing...I am now even more afraid.

    5. Re:No, but your own choices are. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Reality has a well-known liberal bias...

    6. Re:No, but your own choices are. by antiperimetaparalogo · · Score: 2

      Unless you're a complete recluse or are making a conscious effort to sequester yourself from any popular culture, it's virtually impossible to be in your teens or 20's and not be exposed to various legitimate liberal political stances -- most often during college years. OTOH, it's quite easy to never interact with any "real life" legitimate conservative arguments, other than straw men that the liberal political arguments are using.

      Thus you end up with 25 year olds who have no basic understanding of conservative economic principles, or presume that there's no other possible motiviation for some random socially conservative policy than abject hatred and/or slavish religious belief.

      What you describe is the reality, and a reason that makes many of right-wing persons (like i am) to question the ethics and criticize the hypocrisy of the left-wing; pretending that they "save" people from ignorance, when any knowledge of the other's side arguments from those to be "saved" is absent or, worse, based on lies - note that i am not refering to their actual ideology (that i oppose, but it is irrelevant to my point): it is about their ethics and hypocrisy!

      Usually people become wiser with age - young people are naturaly inclined to the left-wing's rhetoric. It would be better for society if people (regardless of their political ideology) to become honest. But i am just an old right-wing Greek who is angry with the ethics and hypocrisy of the left-wing...

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    7. Re:No, but your own choices are. by the+grace+of+R'hllor · · Score: 2

      From what I read in American media, the liberal stance is "Too much income inequality is bad". ie, if enough people have too little to live on, because too much wealth accumulates to the wealthy, that's bad. You get revolutions that way, and no one wants that. Liberals tend to believe wealth gap is too large, and needs to be shrunk. Not obliterated in some communist's wet dream, but shrunk. The only straw man I see is what you just wrote about the liberal stance.

      Disclaimer: I'm Dutch. Our liberals are our right-wingers, and our left-wingers are actual socialists, the Socialist Party.

  5. Slashdot does! by antiperimetaparalogo · · Score: 2

    Keeping You In a Political Bubble?

    YES - SLASHDOT!

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  6. Facebook isn't. But Slashdot is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't use Facebook, so it isn't doing anything to my political viewpoints.

    Slashdot, on the other hand, is. Every day we're subjected to one or more dumb social justice stories here. If it isn't yet another article about how there aren't enough women in tech (and which also totally ignore how there are some fields that are female-dominated), then it's an article about how the police are "bad" for having to use deadly force in self defence against some black youths who physically attacked them. Then there's the total nonsense about Aaron Swartz that comes up so often, and the articles are always defending him (although he acted maliciously) and blame others for his death (although it was due to his completely voluntary suicide). And just yesterday, I believe it was, there was yet another article scare-mongering about climate change.

    Slashdot wasn't always like this, mind you. But since it has oriented itself toward social justice causes, I've found myself becoming less and less supportive of what is becoming a very extremist, intolerant political mindset. Social justice is no longer social in nature; it's about creating division among people. Nor is it about justice; it's about promoting severe inequality under the cloak of equality.

    1. Re:Facebook isn't. But Slashdot is. by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Then there's the total nonsense about Aaron Swartz that comes up so often, and the articles are always defending him (although he acted maliciously)

      What's malicious about downloading papers which the public is permitted to see?

      and blame others for his death (although it was due to his completely voluntary suicide)

      I vote we lock you in a box undeservedly next. Not that you exist.

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    2. Re:Facebook isn't. But Slashdot is. by the+grace+of+R'hllor · · Score: 2

      Unarmed lone black youths who viciously attack groups of armed police officers. In repeated situations. If you really think your police force is justified in executing unarmed young people. Liberal as Slashdot may be, this is a civil rights issue. If it does not get resolved, you *will* get lynching of cops, only it won't be unarmed lone black youths at that point.

    3. Re:Facebook isn't. But Slashdot is. by jareth-0205 · · Score: 2

      What I particularly love about the recent use of the phrase "social justice" is that the people using it seem to think it's a negative one. How the hell can you be against social justice? Are you campaigning for social injustice?

    4. Re:Facebook isn't. But Slashdot is. by Kjella · · Score: 2

      What I particularly love about the recent use of the phrase "social justice" is that the people using it seem to think it's a negative one. How the hell can you be against social justice? Are you campaigning for social injustice?

      I'm against social justice and for a meritocracy with actual equality. SJWs tend to use statistics to prove injustice against a class merely by the existence of differences. Like for example men generally earn more than women, that's enough to turn on the hate meter and cry about social injustice. If you start breaking it down on age, education, grades, jobs, actual experience (part-time vs full-time, overtime, time on leave) you find that most these differences disappear and you have close to equal pay for equal work. You're not discriminated against, you just want it on a feigned injustice not merit.

      Which is of course not to say I support the bigots that want to keep women, minorities and whatnot out of positions of power and you might need to counteract discrimination. But I'm generally opposed to the idea that you should require less of a lesbian black female engineer than a straight white male engineer just to balance out the percentages. Yet that is what happens in education and HR when you make this a qualification. Let's hire her not because she's the best, but because she looks good on the statistics.

      I also think it is pretty toxic to everyone involved. It's demeaning to come in on a quota rather than your own merits, it creates resentment from ordinary workers that made it the hard way and is highly unjust to the more skilled people you're replacing. Like having a token black guy in a TV show or write in a female elf into Tolkien so somebody could have a romantic love interest, you're not getting a lot of credit for your character. And I don't see any clear reason, if you're getting equal opportunities and women choose to be nurses and men engineers do we need to force them to swap?

      The TL;DR version:
      Equal pay for equal work - meritocracy
      Equal pay for unequal work - social justice
      Unequal pay for equal work - bigotry
      Unequal pay for unequal work - as it should be

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  7. Wait... by roc97007 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Facebook is an informational environment?

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  8. Irrelevant to the individual. by jpellino · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People want to remain in a political bubble. It helps convince them they're right.

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  9. When algorithms rule by aNonnyMouseCowered · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In the future our algorithmic overlords will decide for what's good in everything we do, from our gadgets to our leaders to our lovers. It would be a technological utopia for the sheeple, a dystopia for the freethinkers. Rather than war, it's our Facebook likes, Google searches, Amazon (Alibaba?) buys, aggregated and analysed by machines, that will bring about the Matrix.

  10. Yes, but by michaelmalak · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yes, Facebook is keeping me in a political bubble, but not nearly to the extent that National Review did in the early 90s. I repent of my Ollie North bumper sticker!

  11. Balanced rather than a bubble by waynemcdougall · · Score: 5, Funny

    Actually I find that Facebook presents a fair and reasonable range of views on all issues, now that everyone finally agrees that global warming was a myth.

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  12. Self-policing always works! by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now, a study by Facebook's in-house social scientists finds that this does happen, though the effect seems to be very small.

    My. Asshole. Back before I stopped using facebook I noted several design issues with Facebook which magnified this effect. When posting pages to facebook, meaningless drivel would often post correctly even when pages were very large and complex, but political content would often fail to post even when the content was very simple and loaded very quickly even on my rinky-dink connection. Going back through my feed, I found that links had disappeared (or one might say "had been removed") from political content, but the links were still attached to the meaningless drivel. Some of it was stuff I had posted for amusement value, but I actually inserted some dummy content in there as well. Finally, even when you ask to see all the posts from specific users in your feed, you don't. You have to drill down to their user page to see all the content. Facebook won't show you all the content you ask to see in your stream.

    Anyone who takes Facebook's word for it is dumber than dumb, and deserves to be taken advantage of all day.

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  13. Hostility to debate by ralphbecket · · Score: 4, Informative

    My politics, such as they are, are slightly to the other side of the line than most of the people in my Facebook contacts. A good number of those contacts are prone to posting what seem to me to be quite biased, divisive articles essentially preaching the moral superiority of the choir to the choir. My preferred style of engagement is to ask questions rather than assert "truths" and I try to steer clear of speculation on motive, appeals to authority, and all those rhetorical cop-outs. When I try to engage people on this stuff, the result is often quite hostile and sometimes personal. This makes me suspect that many people posting these things aren't really looking for debate, they're just looking for approval from their group. It would save me a lot of grief if Facebook provided a flag so people could indicate what kind of responses they're looking for when they post these things.

    Having said all that, I find pretty much the same thing here on Slashdot and on most on-line fora. I just don't get the impression that many people see debate as a constructive way of testing one's beliefs and ideas.

  14. Whew by GrahamJ · · Score: 3, Funny

    Good thing my political views are the right ones.

  15. I use intentional filtering by msobkow · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I purposely have crackbook block the right wing lunatic websites/pages, the bigoted anti-muslim sites/pages, and a host of others.

    I see no reason why I should have crap like that shoved in front of my face when I'd never seek it out on my own. And the people who *post* that racist crap get themselves removed from the "friend" list and blocked. I'll have no truck with bigots.

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    1. Re:I use intentional filtering by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem is when you define those that don't agree with you as bigots, and have no problem engaging in bigotry yourself. You call it social justice and really can't see why anyone would disagree with your extreme left-wing views. It's an affliction that, in my estimation, will only get worse. Why should any leftist listen to people who are obviously dissidents?

      "What our enemies oppose, we will support. And whatever our enemies support, we will oppose."
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  16. Re:Politics is tyranny by b0r0din · · Score: 2

    Does Facebook make it harder for people with different political views to get along?

    Politics is about making other people do what you think is right. It's just like forcing your religion on someone except that somehow if there's not a God involved it's considered to be morally acceptable. It's the worst form of blind faith in the face of evidence to the contrary, and it's used to justify tyranny.

    I really disagree with this assertion that politics is all about dominance. In skipping directly to tyranny you fail to see the positive aspects of debate and personal influence - is it bad to try to make someone see something different? Are people incapable of changing their opinions with time and wisdom? Are you removing someone's choice by having a conversation with them?

    A problem happens when both sides become intractable on issues. What you're really talking about is what we've got today, incredibly polarized politics, a political system rigged to extremes (largely due to gerrymandering), with few moderates and quite a few people trying to bash each other over the head about ideas.

    The problem I struggle with is when I see that an idea is bad, and the data suggests it's bad, and yet it's somehow subject for debate. Economics and taxation is somewhat debatable (to a degree). What isn't? Well, global warming denial, creationism, anti-vaccination bullsh*t. People who think, in a world where water in certain places is becoming increasingly scarce, that we should potentially pollute the water supply without some rigorous studies.

    I think a lot of people go to Facebook to see pictures of babies and cat pics and impersonally catch up with friends and maybe find something funny or like what someone's up to. I like Facebook for that reason, in other words it's a positive source for me. I don't go to Facebook to see a friend of mine talking about putting landmines in his yard because there were some recent breakins (yes that happened and no i dont think he was joking). I try really hard not to push my political agenda, especially as much of some of my friends. But when I find something politically offensive in its utter awfulness, something most people wouldn't hear about, or about a candidate I like that maybe not everyone knows about, I post it, to inform those around me.

    It's not about dominating friends, it's about informing them. People can come to their own conclusions, everyone has their own life history, and they can disagree with me if they want. But I don't think it's evil to try to influence someone or ask questions about the reasons they feel one way or another. And I rarely push, except perhaps with my parents, because they are quite intelligent and yet my dad has listened to Rush Limbaugh for far too long and my mom is a single-issue voter.

  17. Re:Politics is tyranny by b0r0din · · Score: 2

    Yes, let's bring in a business leader to protect the environment (since he makes money from...), or a business leader to police the people, or a business person to jail people who do bad things like assault or steal or murder. We of course subcontracted the whole making laws thing out to a business person. They will totally not use their greed to game the system to their advantage, like all the business people in the history of the world who did so.

    Libertarian principles of a totally capitalistic society: great in concept, hugely stupid in reality. Like when that guy who ran a prison system got caught after years of paying off a judge to make sentences for juveniles harsher.