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Firefox's Optional Tracking Protection Reduces Load Time For News Sites By 44%

An anonymous reader writes: Former Mozilla software engineer Monica Chew and Computer Science researcher Georgios Kontaxis recently released a paper (PDF) that examines Firefox's optional Tracking Protection feature. The duo found that with Tracking Protection enabled, the Alexa top 200 news sites saw a 67.5 percent reduction in the number of HTTP cookies set. Furthermore, performance benefits included a 44 percent median reduction in page load time and 39 percent reduction in data usage.

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  1. e-commerce by SumDog · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I worked in e-commerce once. Our client had fifteen tracking pixels in the final page of the checkout process! It added a good 10 ~ 20 seconds to that page. That was on top of all the Adobe Omniture garbage.

    I refused to pulled crazy triple shifts after I the Thanksgiving break and was let go. I was so glad. It was totally not worth it and unemployment felt awesome after all that rubbish.

    Also, fuck TOMS shoes!

    1. Re: e-commerce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It all comes down to trust. People who track you don't trust each other. They'd fake data, so why wouldn't you? They want first hand to the real data, before it's faked and pumped and fluffed to look like it actually is beneficial. And they don't trust the site provider to be honest either, so they can't have the tracking data stored with the site itself.

    2. Re: e-commerce by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What I can not understand is why aren't there a unified solution to provide tracking data to all different underlying tracking systems.

      Because there's more than one set of greedy bastards, each of which have their own branding, and feel they deserve a slice of the pie -- because they all have executives who need hooker and yacht money.

      Are you expecting greedy advertisers to pool their resources so users only see a single greedy embedded in their web pages? Or that somehow having the big giant clearinghouse of everyone's data would somehow be good?

      I have an alternative, block the shit out of all of them, and then nuke the offices of tracking and advertising companies from orbit.

      Just because a bunch of advertising agencies thinks they own the internet doesn't mean we should play along. In fact, we should try to weed them out entirely.

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    3. Re:e-commerce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The customer. Especially if they're in a rush.

    4. Re:e-commerce by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1
      I think GP meant, "why should the e-commerce site care, after the customer has already left his money on the table".

      The correct answer would be "the repeat customer", but maybe those sites that are pulling such stunts deliver such shitty service or merchandise that it would be highly unlikely that a customer ever came back, even if the checkout page loaded faster...

    5. Re: e-commerce by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Supposedly there is one 'Kinder, friendlier' advertiser who we are supposed to fellate eagerly.

    6. Re:e-commerce by penguinoid · · Score: 1

      The last page, as in the page after the customer has already paid? Who gives a shit how fast it loads?

      Yeah, who gives a crap about the user experience of those who have demonstrated they are paying customers?

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    7. Re: e-commerce by ZeroWaiteState · · Score: 1

      Google does. Otherwise you get banished to the depths of PageRank.

    8. Re: e-commerce by amiga3D · · Score: 2

      I installed little snitch on a fresh install of Yosemite on my Mac recently. When I started up Firefox and went surfing I had to spend almost 20 minutes blocking tracing sites so I never see the bitches. I do it at that level instead of trusting Firefox to do it. I was amazed how much bullshit is out there.

    9. Re:e-commerce by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      That was on top of all the Adobe Omniture garbage.

      That makes an awfully expensive garbage!

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    10. Re:e-commerce by antdude · · Score: 1

      Are you still unemployed? :P

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  2. Nice way to show how bad sites are... by gigaherz · · Score: 1

    ...but I already have Ghostery for that, so it doesn't offset the news about ads in the default home page.

  3. Think that's impressive? by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Add adblocking on top of that and you will double those numbers.

    The advertising industry is ruining the internet.

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    1. Re:Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Lack of forward thinking ruined the internet. The utopia is dead, capitalism will win out. There was no monitization strategy envisioned during the birth of the internet, and therefor it's not surprising the monitization strategy which companies are using offends the technologists sensibilities, since there was never to be one in the first place.

      Until you accept it and start acting like the greedy, commercial actor which you are, someone with better hair and a flashier car will always promise you what you want to hear and rake in money from your efforts.

    2. Re:Think that's impressive? by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      The advertising industry is ruining the internet.

      I challenge you to describe a plausible alternative.

    3. Re:Think that's impressive? by Rob+Y. · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, the public has 'spoken', and the Internet shall be ad-supported and otherwise 'free'. That doesn't mean that internet advertising has to be as intrusive as possible - just because it can be. Certain kinds of internet advertising is probably effective enough without tracking your every move. Even Google was pretty good - and financially successful - when it simply tracked your search queries and used aggregated data to produce good search results. The results may be marginally 'better' (i.e. personalized) today, but that's got plusses and minues. In any case, I wonder how much more revenue personalized searches generate for Google than before. You still have to click on the ads for them to make their money...

      As far as other sites go, I imagine they're all sitting on huge troves of tracking data that they can't begin to figure out a use for - except maybe to sell it to somebody else which Google itself does not do, btw.

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    4. Re:Think that's impressive? by MagickalMyst · · Score: 1

      No advertising.

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    5. Re:Think that's impressive? by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      I asked for plausible alternatives. Please explain how "no advertising" is such.

    6. Re:Think that's impressive? by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No what will happen is shitty sites full of fluff and click bait will go out of business. Nothing of value will be lost.

    7. Re:Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      For one thing there will be far less junk sites like ehow who thrive off of SEO spam for ad clicks. We'd also get rid of all the other shitty clickbait sites like Gawker and Buzzfeed. Finally it would bankrupt Facebook and put Fuckerberg in the poor house. Seems well worth it to me.

    8. Re:Think that's impressive? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Apparently, it means, 'no salary for jones_supa' by the look of it. I agree, that isn't plausible. For you.

      The Internet historically has hated fucking spammers and advertisers. That hasn't changed. And the tools are in need of continual sharpening.

    9. Re:Think that's impressive? by JamesTRexx · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Static advertising.

      No more audiovisually distracting intrusive advertising burning bandwidth and CPU to peddle things you've already bought or looked into.
      Newspapers and magazines had people managing advertising themselves, picking relevant products and the way it's presented. Why can't websites manage it like they do and take responsibility for it?

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    10. Re:Think that's impressive? by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      You have to look it from the perspective of the content creator as well.

    11. Re:Think that's impressive? by tepples · · Score: 1

      True, advertising is not the only way to fund the creation of articles and operation of a website. It's just that

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    12. Re:Think that's impressive? by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Of course not, but someone had to create Slashdot.

    13. Re:Think that's impressive? by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      I didn't mean that I personally am a content creator.

    14. Re:Think that's impressive? by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 1

      If they had compelling content people would pay for it directly. Sites like ehow and Buzzfeed create crap but can stay around due to clickbait spam.

    15. Re: Think that's impressive? by pspahn · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's amazing how incompetent and lazy Web developers have become.

      As a developer myself, I feel the need to stand up on this statement.

      I have built numerous e-commerce sites. Every one of them performed well and care was taken to reduce HTTP requests, optimize images, minify assets, etc. I do this because it's the right thing to do and I take pride in building something that works well.

      Then the site gets turned over to the client and gets managed by SEO and marketing people. I will usually check the site out or show it to a friend or something a month or two after launch. I am disgusted (but never surprised) to see the slow page loads and poor response times that are a result of all the additional tracking garbage they stuff in the header.

      I see a lot of people blame web developers for sites that perform poorly. Every single time I have had a hand in building one of those sites, the developer was never the person responsible for that stuff.

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    16. Re: Think that's impressive? by ZeroWaiteState · · Score: 1

      Its called offering the customer something in exchange for money. Companies like GE and Exxon Mobil have been using this strategy with moderate success.

    17. Re: Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What makes you think that you're the rule, and not the exception?

    18. Re:Think that's impressive? by Larry_Dillon · · Score: 1

      I don't think the public has spoken. They're just not aware what's going on and the potential harm. Would people accept it if they had to click an "OK" button telling them they were being tracked each time a site tracked them? I don't think so. Sites added the tracking with very little public discussion or disclosure.

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  4. Lets all chant together by shitzu · · Score: 1

    RequestPolicy

    1. Re:Lets all chant together by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Informative

      + NoScript + Ghostery + AdBlock + Block 3rd Party Cookies

      For Chrome: ScriptSafe + Chostery + HTTP SwitchBoard + Disconnect

      The internet is full of shit which needs to be ruthlessly blocked.

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    2. Re:Lets all chant together by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      + NoScript + Ghostery + AdBlock + Block 3rd Party Cookies

      For Chrome: ScriptSafe + Chostery + HTTP SwitchBoard + Disconnect

      The internet is full of shit which needs to be ruthlessly blocked.

      Safersurfing for persistent cookies not stored in the usual places.

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    3. Re:Lets all chant together by JamesTRexx · · Score: 1

      Only after a page doesn't work in a text browser.

      I use links2 as my main browser and only use Iceweasel+NoScript if the page is interesting enough to read. Haven't used an adblocker in a while since NoScript seems to work well enough for me.

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    4. Re:Lets all chant together by ATMAvatar · · Score: 1

      Don't forget EFF's Privacy Badger.

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    5. Re:Lets all chant together by LazyBoot · · Score: 1

      For Chrome: ScriptSafe + Chostery + HTTP SwitchBoard + Disconnect

      Just FYI ScriptSafe is abandoned...

    6. Re:Lets all chant together by greenfruitsalad · · Score: 1

      hmm... that will not get you very far. You don't seem to deal with LSO cookies at all, adblock is now as closed source as it gets (unlike adblock plus) and you are not addressing fingerprinting either (extensions like rubberglove, privoxy/proxomitron and disabling font enumeration in firefox).

      soon enough there will be a university degree in safe/private browsing.

    7. Re:Lets all chant together by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 1

      Ghostery + Adblock are redundant with RequestPolicy + Noscript. And I prefer Self-Destructing Cookies, since it can get rid of all sorts of persistent storage objects and doesn't tend to break things. It deletes all cookies set while on a tab when you close the tab, unless you whitelist them.

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    8. Re:Lets all chant together by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      uBlock Origin.

      The author of uBlock threw a tantrum and forked his own code to uBlock Origin. The original uBlock is now largely unmaintained.

    9. Re:Lets all chant together by firewrought · · Score: 3, Informative

      And under Firefox, don't forget to tweak your about:config:

      dom.storage.enabled = false # DOM storage is cookies reborn
      plugins.enumerable_names = "" # Useful for fingerprinting
      network.http.sendRefererHeader = 0
      network.http.sendSecureXSiteReferrer = false
      geo.enabled=false
      general.useragent.override = "???" # May not be worth it.

      If you don't need them, WebGL and WebRTC are just big security holes:

      webgl.disabled=true
      media.peerconnection.enabled=false

      Not privacy-related, but...

      network.prefetch-next = false # Don't load pages without asking (esp. at work)
      network.http.pipelining = true # Improve load performance.

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    10. Re:Lets all chant together by allo · · Score: 1

      plus Policeman

    11. Re:Lets all chant together by allo · · Score: 1

      ghostery, but not adblock.

      adblock: adblock privacy gives you ghostery
      noscript: gives you a lot of ghostery

      adblock blocks ads, even from the same host. And noscript can allow scripts per domain, while adblock (privacy) blocks some depending on the path.

    12. Re:Lets all chant together by allo · · Score: 1

      for useragent.override use a popular one, not a random one. you may be the only person with "???" as UA, but not the only one with " Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0"

  5. Faster! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow slashdot now loads faster!

  6. Bullshit ... by gstoddart · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm going to call complete bullshit on this.

    Because disabling 3rd party cookies and setting cookies to "ask before setting" will probably also have the same effect, because once you hit a site you've said "no" to, you never get asked again.

    This is saying "our awesome tracking protection is faster than promiscuously accepting all cookies and running scripts".

    The slowness comes from letting 3rd party tracking sites set cookies and run scripts ... which modern browsers seem to treat as the default, or letting any crap set cookies or run scripts.

    Their tracking protection isn't magic, it's just blocking crap. Some of which can be blocked by default anyway.

    And it's a setting which Mozilla backed down on enabling by default because advertisers whined at them.

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    1. Re:Bullshit ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not bullshit, it's an ex-Mozilla employee discussing just how bad the situation is. Turns out Mozilla don't have the clout to fix the situation without resorting to compromises we wish they wouldn't have to, but it's not bullshit. Just try it out yourself.

    2. Re:Bullshit ... by gstoddart · · Score: 2

      It's not bullshit, it's an ex-Mozilla employee discussing just how bad the situation is.

      Fair enough, but TFS makes it sound like this is a speedup due to how super awesome the tracking protection is, as opposed to the default crap of letting everything from a zillion other domains run by default.

      Run everything from every cross domain crap and advertising the crux of the problem here, because ads and other tracking crap have fucked up the internet to the point that dozens of other domains get to know every page you visit.

      Those entities, and the people whose websites use them, should not be rewarded for putting shit all over the internet.

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    3. Re:Bullshit ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Perhaps. But I look at it this way. The people willing to not turn the settings on are paying the bills. I would tell everyone about it. If no script did not pretty much screw up ~10% of the time. Even this site touches no less that 5. You get on some sites and there are 50+ domains it touches. You have no idea which one is actually serving product or advert or tracking.

      I have seen similar numbers in my testing. Throw in a proxy server and some DNS caching and the numbers half again.

      I went from about 2-3 mins for 20 pages to load to under 30 seconds with adverts disabled. ~20 with caching. Another 5 or so by not using my ISPs DNS server.

    4. Re:Bullshit ... by tburkhol · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The slowness comes from letting 3rd party tracking sites set cookies and run scripts ... which modern browsers seem to treat as the default, or letting any crap set cookies or run scripts

      When Newegg includes a 1px image from criteo.com, criteo is no longer a 3rd party. When newegg directs "promotions.newegg.com" to edgesuite.net, then edgesuite is no longer a 3rd party (and in a way that is much more difficult for even clever ad blocking software to detect).

      The point they're trying to raise here is that including all of those web-bugs and their associated cookies does impact the visitor experience, and FF has a system to reduce it. You can take this from the user perspective: here's an easy way to speed up the web, without having to figure out which of the adblocking plug ins are really legit. You can look at it from the host perspective: if web bugs make your whole web site feel much slower, then maybe the analytics aren't worth it. There are a lot of people who just don't think about why their internet is slow. Every time someone stands up and says it takes longer to load all the ads on most pages than the actual content, a few more people will understand the cost of "free' web pages.

    5. Re:Bullshit ... by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The slowness comes from letting 3rd party tracking sites set cookies and run scripts ... which modern browsers seem to treat as the default, or letting any crap set cookies or run scripts.

      Their tracking protection isn't magic, it's just blocking crap. Some of which can be blocked by default anyway.

      Well, the reason it's faster is you avoid making extraneous HTTP connections which can be slow by slow servers.

      A lot of ad and tracking servers stall out the browser, and because everyone uses them, they're overloaded. The browser might have everything it needs to render the page, but all the tracking stuff stalls out the renderer so you get only the headers. You can easily increase the speed if you tell the renderer to ignore those tracking objects and the network stack to not retrieve that content.

      Slow ad servers are the bane of the internet - why ad companies don't purchase more bandwidth and capacity is beyond me.

    6. Re:Bullshit ... by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      Another 5 or so by not using my ISPs DNS server.

      And if you're using GoogleDNS or OpenDNS, you're back on the tracking bandwagon.

      And maybe this is the way it should be... have the DNS providers be the tracking clearinghouse, and serve only relevant ads in a way that doesn't get in the way of the actual site content.

      The fact that Apple sticks "Safari Reader" in the Safari browser says something about how bad things have got... not only do you end up loading a bunch of stuff you don't actually want that takes time/bandwidth, the end result is often bad enough that your browser needs to reformat it for you to be able to read it comfortably.

    7. Re:Bullshit ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's not bullshit at all. I once did a Cookie RFC compliance survey on the top 10,000 Alexa sites and wrote a Perl script to log their complete HTTP responses to a single root page request (i.e.: GET / HTTP/1.1). I was disappointed to see that the majority of them were still using Set-Cookie headers (badly) formatted as per the original Netscape Cookie Proposal circa 1994, not even compliant with any RFC known to man. I was also disappointed to see how many Set-Cookie headers were sent out by sites just in response to a request... one site issued a staggering 66 cookies! The amount of Set-Cookie data being sent out by the majority of these sites dwarfs the size of the actual HTML payload that they're attached to. All those cookies are going to get sent regardless of whatever browser settings you might have. And you still have to add all of the crap and cookies attached to images and advertising referenced from the HTML and JavaScript.

  7. A little late by Runaway1956 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've already switched to Pale Moon, in part because Pale Moon loads sites much faster. I also benefit from reduced CPU usage, from about 60% to about 15%. Memory usage has also dropped, although less dramatically than CPU usage.

    HELLO FIREFOX!! You started life being the leanest, meanest, most efficient browser in the world! It's time to get back to your roots!

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    1. Re:A little late by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      I'm using HTTPSEverywhere, version 5.04 on Pale Moon version 25.4.1 for 64 bit Linux. It seems to work off and on - it's not reliable. I also installed HTTPNowhere and that pretty simply failed, so I removed it.

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    2. Re:A little late by Runaway1956 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Uhhhhh - Pale Moon is not Firefox, and it hasn't been for some time. It is a fork, unlike some other Firefox copycats. I remember FasterFox, which simply took each new version of Firefox, and recompiled it with their own tweaks. That is not the case with Pale Moon. The code has been altered to suit a different vision, and they no longer even try to recompile new FF versions. Pale Moon is a complete break with Firefox.

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    3. Re:A little late by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      Their plans are readily available on the site I supplied above. If you're really interested, you'll go read about it. If you're not really interested, I can summarize, and say that they are cherry picking.

      Let me make this a little plainer. Pale Moon took the Ghekko engine at - uhhhhhh, version 27 I think it was - and "froze" it. That is what they are working with. Yes, they have broken compatibility with some Firefox things. No, they don't intend to implement all the "improvements" that Firefox builds in the future.

      Now, which part of "fork" did you fail to understand? It is not Firefox anymore. Pale Moon is somewhat backward compatible with old versions of Firefox, and addons that worked on old Firefox will either work, or can be made to work on Pale Moon. Newer addons grow into big problems, quickly.

      Pale Moon has no intention of remaining compatible with Firefox, and as time goes on, it should look less and less like Firefox.

      Now, please don't make me try to justify Pale Moon anymore. I'm just a user who has been moderately well impressed with it. I'm not a developer, an investor, a fanboy, or anything else. Just a user, who is pleased with the dramatic difference in resource consumption on an aging computer. Pale Moon is treating me well.

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    4. Re:A little late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'd try it, but they took out accessibility features. That just feels like a big fuck you to a segment of the population and I'm not even hard of seeing.

    5. Re:A little late by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      You're talking like some kind of a damned fool now. So, I switched to a new browser. Let's say that you are right - it folds in two years. Are you saying that I can't come back to Firefox next week, next month, or next year? Huh? Is there some kind of a stop-bit in Pale Moon which will forever prevent me from installing and/or updating Firefox?

      FFS, right now, today, in this world that I am experiencing right now, Blue Moon works better than Firefox, in some ways. That doesn't tie me to Blue Moon forever and forever, amen.

      Test drive the damned thing for yourself. THEN you might have something to say that is worth listening to.

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  8. Re:One curiosity for me... by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

    Yes, you're running to much stuff. Each of them requires CPU cycles. Drop Ad Block Plus, and install uBlock. I saw a rather dramatic drop in system resources with that alone. Keep Better Privacy, and Privacy Badger - drop Ghostery. Agent spoofer I'm not sure about - I tried it, and dropped it. Self destructing cookies? Why bother? Firefox has a session cookie setting, just use that.

    But, most assuredly, overlapping security precautions will slow the system down. Perhaps if you're running a state of the art octo-core with 32 gig of memory, that slowdown is unnoticeable. If you're running an ancient piece of 32-bit hardware with only a gig of memory, it may bring you to a grinding halt.

    Whatever your system, use the resources wisely.

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  9. For anyone else wondering what the hell this is by guises · · Score: 5, Informative

    I had to look this up. For anyone else wondering: this is one of those hidden FIrefox features which is only available to people who know about it ahead of time, through the about:config interface. If you're one of those people who isn't in the club, the boolean you search for is "privacy.trackingprotection.enabled".

    [Insert rant about FIrefox's god-awful UI and severely lacking menu system.]

    1. Re:For anyone else wondering what the hell this is by Imazalil · · Score: 1

      What do you mean lacking menu system.... ohh, right, you must be on Windows (or *nix, no idea how they do it these days).

      A lot of UI/Designers forget that you can't just make a pretty OS X like app in Windows because there is no persistent menu bar across the top to hide all your features. Being forced to dig through that side hamburger menu thing is a PITA.

    2. Re:For anyone else wondering what the hell this is by guises · · Score: 1

      there is no persistent menu bar across the top to hide all your features

      There used to be. Is that gone? I wouldn't know - I stay as far away from MacOS as I do from GNOME, and for the same reason: if you want to do anything which even slightly deviates from what the UI designers planned for you to do (like enabling tracking protection) then you either know the secret handshake or you're out of luck.

      Actually, the thing which has irritated me the most about Firefox lately is the lack of configurability of shortcuts. Ctrl-w closes a tab while Ctrl-q quits the program... right next to one another. Every time I hit Ctrl-q by mistake I get angry and look for the menu option which lets me configure shortcuts, only to smack myself in the head and remember that it isn't there. The secret handshake for that one used to be a plug-in, but that doesn't work with current versions of Firefox. As annoying as the hamburger menu might be, I would be fine with it if it just had the options there for all of this stuff. You should never need to use the about:config tool if you're not a Firefox dev.

    3. Re:For anyone else wondering what the hell this is by allo · · Score: 1

      The irony: Look at the two urls belonging to the feature "SAFEBROWING_ID" ... oh yeah, there it goes again with the unique id (which is used for phishing protection as well).

    4. Re:For anyone else wondering what the hell this is by Eythian · · Score: 1

      They covered all that in the article. Not just how to turn it on, but why it's not on by default/exposed in the UI yet. Seriously, you can't fail to RTFA and then be all "I had to look this up" and "you need to be in a special club to use this" when it explains what's going on right there in front of you.

    5. Re:For anyone else wondering what the hell this is by guises · · Score: 1

      Huh. That's smart, thanks.

    6. Re:For anyone else wondering what the hell this is by guises · · Score: 1

      I don't think so. The links in the summary were to the paper and to explanations of the results of the paper. As it so happens, in the third link in addition to the paper results there was also an explanation of the feature but there was nothing in the summary that said, "This is the link you click on to find out how to do this."

      You're right that I didn't click on the links, but since the links didn't give any indication that one of them was providing the information that I was after I'm not willing to take the blame for that one.

  10. Re:How to block Google analytics by Runaway1956 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes. I don't believe that you can block ALL Google stuff, but you can indeed block the GA servers. http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/ho... I'm to lazy to read all through it again, but I'm pretty sure that one blocks Google Analytics. If I'm wrong, you should be able to find one that does with a simple search.

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  11. Re:Nice timing... by JMJimmy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    True. I'd still like a fork that is DRM-free and doesn't advertise to me and a million other things. For those that want to enable it:

    privacy.trackingprotection.enabled = true

  12. Slashdot has a similar problem by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    If you block "player.ooyala.com", the page loads much faster. Turns out I'm blocking some analytic tracking thing.

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    “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
  13. Re:How to block Google analytics by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

    Blocking google-analytics.com doesn't work ?
    Anyways, If you want to block all ads with ABP, just uncheck the very obvious checkbox in the settings, or use an alternative blocker like uBlock.
    If you are paranoid about the blocker sending data to their company, know that ABP is an opensource project, so is uBlock, you are free to analyse the code and build it yourself. But considering the controversy about ABP, I guess serveral people alredy did this.

  14. Seems to work for OSM and Wikipedia by pereric · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, Wikipedia seems to work pretty fine without commercial ads (they do some fundraising sometime). And Open Streetmap seems to do fine, as are the plethora of services built upon it. Sometimes NGO:s and individuals do stuff and share it just because they want it done. Finding sponsorship or donations for the hosting fees are a minor problem then.

    1. Re:Seems to work for OSM and Wikipedia by allo · · Score: 1

      Be important, get donations, be ran by volunteers or die, be a commercial site (webshops) or die.
      Nobody needs the 100000th "i want to play with you, but first see my AAAAAAAAAAAAADS" page, if its not interesting anyway.

    2. Re:Seems to work for OSM and Wikipedia by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 2

      But how about more specialized websites (such as Slashdot) or non-essential relaxation websites (YouTube for the most part)? Would people really bother to chuck in donations if there were no advertisements?

      http://news.slashdot.org/story...

      http://slashdot.org/faq/subscr...

      The answer appears to be "yes".

    3. Re: Seems to work for OSM and Wikipedia by ZeroWaiteState · · Score: 1

      OpenStreetMap is slow, because running geodatabase queries efficiently without strong infrastructure is a hard problem.

  15. Re:Nice timing... by Grishnakh · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    See, the problem is that the religious conservatives want other religious conservatives to have the privilege of being able to spout their hateful bile without any consequences. They don't want free speech, they want consequences-free speech for their own kind (but no one else).

  16. Re:How to block Google analytics by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

    and Adblock plus is simply a front company that sells the right to place adverts in front of its users.

    Not a problem; don't use ABP.

    Use uBlock instead. As a bonus, it's much much faster and uses far less memory.

  17. Re:One curiosity for me... by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

    Oh - got it. Dumb question on my part, huh? I should have figured that out.

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  18. The way it's supposed to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Now, someone somewhere pays for that 100/100 connection.

    It costs me all of 43 euro per month, and has no limits on capacity or ports or otherwise; that's the standard contract here. We use it for accessing web pages at various sites, including banking and shopping (cookies destroyed and cache cleared immediately afterwards). The web server is just an extra. Like the mail server and media server and file server.

    It all just happens to be your hobby.

    And that's precisely the point. This is the way the internet is supposed to work.

  19. Ghostery and adblock by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    I use several anti tracking plugins and I've noticed that when I switch to a different browser without them the page load time is much faster. I also have googled safe surf turned on which blocks evil sites. In starting to think these tracking blockers and stuff slow things down. They don't really stop tracking since the blockers or google safe surf are middlemen who can track you.

    Thus I would welcome a unified approach to protecting myself that was actually faster

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    1. Re:Ghostery and adblock by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Block them at the Firewall.

    2. Re:Ghostery and adblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If you're on a lower end system, Adblock Plus can cause some considerable slowdown because of the manner in which it blocks ads/tracking cookies. You might consider trying ÂBlock instead. I switched about a year back and I've been really happy with it so far. It seems to work just as well, and without so much bloat.

    3. Re:Ghostery and adblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      uBlock is a forked version that adds nothing apart from some donation links, the original version is better and was renamed to uBlock Origin

    4. Re:Ghostery and adblock by CauseBy · · Score: 2

      Ghostery is awesome. I was a longtime AdBlock Plus user but I switched to uBlock based on a recommendation from a bigger nerd than I am, and I have found uBlock to be better in all the claimed ways. Check it out.

  20. Re:Ghostery = Inferior vs. hosts + 'Souled-Out' by Scotsman,+True · · Score: 1

    I heard editing your hosts file is a good way to get viruses.

  21. Re:Why just 1 only 1 source of hosts data? by Scotsman,+True · · Score: 1

    Don't trust it, anyone with grammar this atrocious is obviously a Nigerian scammer.

  22. Trolls ahead by DrYak · · Score: 1

    Don't pay attention. It's basically just trolls pretending to be outraged just because mozilla decided to give the option to end users to use a 3rd party binary plug-in to handle DRM decryption in HTML5 videos.
    (you know, the same way Flash, Java, Silverlight, etc. had always been plug-ins too. Except that DRM is much more restricted in what it can do, as it runs in a sand box that only allows it to work as a decryption filter).

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  23. Unsupported conclusions by dumky2 · · Score: 1

    I read the paper and it is ok (nothing groundbreaking) on the technical side. But I was shocked to see broad conclusion of political or economic nature that were not supported by any argumentation in the paper.

    In particular, the first sentence of the conclusion: "The Internet’s principal revenue model leads to misaligned incentives between users, advertisers, and content providers, essentially creating a race to the bottom."
    I guess we'll just take your opinion for it.

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