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Leaked Document Shows Europe Would Fight UK Plans To Block Porn

Mark Wilson writes: Before the UK elections earlier in the month, David Cameron spoke about his desire to clean up the internet. Pulling — as he is wont to do — on parental heartstrings, he suggested that access to porn on computers and mobiles should be blocked by default unless users specifically requested access to it. This opt-in system was mentioned again in the run-up to the election as Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, Sajid Javid assured peopled that the party "will age restrict online porn". But it's not quite that simple. There is the small problem of Europe. A leaked EU Council document shows that plans are afoot to stop Cameron's plans in its tracks — and with the UK on the verge of trying to debate a better deal for itself within Europe, the Prime Minister is not in a particularly strong position for negotiating on the issue. Cameron has a fight on his hands, it seems, if he wants to deliver on his promise that "we need to protect our children from hardcore pornography". Documents seen by The Sunday Times reveal that the EU could make it illegal for ISPs and mobile companies to automatically block access to obscene material. Rather than implementing a default block on pornography, the Council of the European Union believes that users should opt in to web filtering and be able to opt out again at any time; this is precisely the opposite to the way Cameron would like things to work.

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  1. Geolock Porn by Whiteox · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sure. Let the Brits only see their own porn!

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  2. Or.... by thegarbz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Or we could just stop raising a country of sexually reclusive prudes who are ashamed of their own body and freak out at the through of seeing nipple.

    Funny side anecdote: I was in Bad Hofgastein in Austria skiing and after a long day on the slopes I went down to the wellness centre for an evening of sauna. There was a British woman shouting at the receptionist that it is absolutely unacceptable that she was kicked out for wearing swimmers in the sauna area. There were a lot of naked men and women standing around quite bemused.

    1. Re:Or.... by JanneM · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You follow the local accepted customs, whether you think they are ridiculous or not.

      Let's take a parallel situation: In some countries, such as Australia I believe, you wear your shoes indoor. In some countries, such as Japan or my native Sweden, you always take them off.

      If you come to either country, would you find it acceptable to basically say "In Australia we always wear our shoes indoor. If you want to take them off, no issue. Why should I be forced to take them off?". Then proceed to try to walk in wearing your outdoor shoes? Would you be surprised if you were (politely in Japan, not so politely in Sweden) thrown out as a result?

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  3. new alternative union by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Funny

    UK & Greece: no porn and no money.

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  4. Re:Blocking access by TWX · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And suddenly extremely low-cost proxy services would be offered, so that people wouldn't have to register with the government to see pictures of naked people.

    I'm still waiting for the definition of pornography. Does William Adolphe Bouguereau's A Young Girl Defending Herself Against Eros qualify? How about the work of Spencer Tunick? How about Tennis Girl by Martin Elliott?

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  5. Re:Blocking access by penguinoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And as a bonus, giving the government the right to filter your content at the ISP level comes with a free promise not to abuse that power.

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  6. They're your damned kids, your damned problem ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The world should not be set up safe as a default for you and your fucking whiny children.

    The moral upbringing of your children in a sealed bubble which keeps the world at bay is your damned problem.

    Every parent who insists the world be made sanitized for you and your precious little snowflake can piss off.

    You want a nanny internet, you take the time to sign up for it and request it. But if you think the rest of the world should have to opt-in ... you can fuck off and leave the rest of us out of it.

    I'm s sick of idiotic parents who think the world should change to protect their children. We don't give a crap, they're not our kids ... on behalf of parent-less couples everywhere, this is your fucking problem not ours.

    I won't moderate my behavior for my mother. If you think I'll do it for you and your brood of annoying children ... well, ask me. I dare you. Because they'll learn every possible bad word as well as hearing them used in complete sentences.

    If you think the world should tiptoe around you and your kids ... you're too stupid to have kids.

    Shit piss fuck cunt cocksucker motherfucker and tits. Fuck you, fuck off, go the fuck away, and don't make me tell you again.

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  7. Re:Blocking access by NostalgiaForInfinity · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And how exactly do you block access?

    You're assuming that blocking access is the goal. In fact, the primary goal is likely increased Internet monitoring and surveillance; expansion of police powers.

  8. Re:Blocking access by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 5, Interesting

    And how exactly do you block access?

    Easy. You call up the US vendor that sold China their Great Firewall and order another one. This one will be cheap, considering the UK's population is a fraction that of China.

    And yes, you can hire enough busy-body bureaucrats to keep the blacklists up to date. China does. Think of it as a jobs program. If there's one thing history has shown, it's that 10% of the population is willing, eager, and waiting to oppress the other 90%, "for their own good." That plus a tiny number of sociopathic opportunists is all you need to get it done.

    I'm sure when it's in place that the UK will become a beacon of morality for all the world to admire. Kind of like the Victorian era.</sarcasm>