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The Tricky Road Ahead For Android Gets Even Trickier

HughPickens.com writes: Farhad Manjoo writes in the NYT that with over one billion devices sold in 2014 Android is the most popular operating system in the world by far, but that doesn't mean it's a financial success for Google. Apple vacuumed up nearly 90 percent of the profits in the smartphone business which prompts a troubling question for Android and for Google: How will the search company — or anyone else, for that matter — ever make much money from Android. First the good news: The fact that Google does not charge for Android, and that few phone manufacturers are extracting much of a profit from Android devices, means that much of the globe now enjoys decent smartphones and online services for low prices. But while Google makes most of its revenue from advertising, Android has so far been an ad dud compared with Apple's iOS, whose users tend to have more money and spend a lot more time on their phones (and are, thus, more valuable to advertisers). Because Google pays billions to Apple to make its search engine the default search provider for iOS devices, the company collects much more from ads placed on Apple devices than from ads on Android devices.

The final threat for Google's Android may be the most pernicious: What if a significant number of the people who adopted Android as their first smartphone move on to something else as they become power users? In Apple's last two earnings calls, Tim Cook reported that the "majority" of those who switched to iPhone had owned a smartphone running Android. Apple has not specified the rate of switching, but a survey found that 16 percent of people who bought the latest iPhones previously owned Android devices; in China, that rate was 29 percent. For Google, this may not be terrible news in the short run. If Google already makes more from ads on iOS than Android, growth in iOS might actually be good for Google's bottom line. Still, in the long run, the rise of Android switching sets up a terrible path for Google — losing the high-end of the smartphone market to the iPhone, while the low end is under greater threat from noncooperative Android players like Cyanogen which has a chance to snag as many as 1 billion handsets. Android has always been a tricky strategy concludes Manjoo; now, after finding huge success, it seems only to be getting even trickier.

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  1. iPhone switchers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "The 'Majority' Of New iPhone Switchers Came From Android"

    With Android's huge marketshare, wouldn't you expect that to be the case?

    1. Re:iPhone switchers by bickerdyke · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And with a mostly two-players market I'd bet that most people who switch to Android came from iPhone.

      Either it's your first phone, then you're not counted as switch, any subsequent phone upgrade from then on won't be a OS switch either or, if it IS a switch, it will be back and forth between Android and iOS.

      So this is a non-fact.

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  2. Power users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What if a significant number of the people who adopted Android as their first smartphone move on to something else as they become power users?

    That would be a possibility if there were a more power-user-friendly smartphone platform. However, Android is the platform for power users.

    In Apple's last two earnings calls, Tim Cook reported that the "majority" of those who switched to iPhone had owned a smartphone running Android.

    That is hardly surprising, since that is true for people in general.

    Still, in the long run, the rise of Android switching sets up a terrible path for Google — losing the high-end of the smartphone market to the iPhone

    While the iPhone is definately in the high-end segment of the market if we look at the retail price, it is hardly competetive to high-end Android phones functionally. They serve a different market. Hence, I don't think this is a big threat for Android's market share.

    1. Re: Power users by Guppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      At this point, you pretty much have to be a power user to have a good Android experience, given how badly crapped-up most low - end carrier's phones are.

      Most non power users have no idea how to deal with crapware, and no idea that all that junk isn't intended to be part of the Android experience.

    2. Re:Power users by dave420 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's not really just a phone, though - Android phones are linux machines with great connectivity. If you are hell-bent on calling a 2.5GHz computer with 2GB+ of RAM, a built-in 1080p screen, wifi, lte, bluetooth, NFC, etc. etc. a "phone", then I guess you will always be confused at how people describe the users of it.

  3. Of course the majority will be from Android by GreenEnvy22 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When Android has the vast majority of the market, where do you think the majority of people "switching" to Apple are going to come from? The single digit % of users running Windows phone or Blackberry?

    1. Re:Of course the majority will be from Android by cdrudge · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I would imagine that the opposite is true to, that the majority of users switching to Android are coming from iPhones. And by switching, I'm presuming they mean going from one smart phone to another.

    2. Re:Of course the majority will be from Android by ckatko · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The article reads like an Android hit piece.* The ONLY thing Android has to do is wait for Apple to slip up. ONE bad PR move and people flock to the competitor. One story of an Apple contractor selling user secrets to China and poof.

      Remember Intel's Itanium failure? AMD swept in with x64 and their Athlon 64 and owned the market place for the first time in their competitive history. Unfortunately, AMD then had a huge failure of their own (somewhere around Bulldozer) and Intel went right back to washing the floor with them.
      Remember when Apple gave away a free U2 album and their users were furious? They were furious because it was hidden from them and done without consent--not that they were getting something free. Something as small as that drove people away from Apple because of what it represented: It showed that upper management at Apple didn't understand your privacy or will at all.

      *(ALL HAIL CORPORATE SLASHDOT. THINK FOR US. TELL US WHAT TO BELIEVE.)

  4. Android to iDevice by Raxxon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How many of those people bought a cheap (crap) Android device and then instead of spending money for a "superphone" decided to go the the "cult of iDevices"? I've had a number of android based devices and given the broad range of hardware out there it's easy to get suckered into buying something that's absolute crap and then wind up blaming the part you can see. I've had a few friends that made this kind of switch and when I pull out my current Android device (OnePlus) most of them kinda kick themselves.

    There's statistics, and then there's useless bullshit. I'm thinking this is more the latter.

    1. Re:Android to iDevice by Noryungi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'll second that one. My first Android phone was really bad. It was slow, buggy, full of crapware, and a pain to use.

      I "switched" to a Samsung Galaxy Note, and never looked back. The user experience was simply great, almost as good as an iPhone, but much cheaper and with none of the iTunes crap.

      I am now using a Nexus 5 and a Nexus 7, and I absolutely love them both. My next smartphone will be either the next generation of Nexus, or the next Samsung.

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    2. Re:Android to iDevice by trout007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hence the walled garden and "ecosystem" approach by apple. There are many people that don't want to figure out which phone/tablet/laptop is good and bad. They know if they buy an Apple product it will be good. They don't sell junk. Sure it's overpriced if you compare specs to Android phone/tablet or Windows laptop but you also don't need to do hours of research to see if the product you are looking to get sucks. This is the same reason people buy Honda's and Toyota's. You can get cars with more performance and accessories much cheaper. But if you buy a Honda or Toyota you pretty much know you can drive it for 200,000 miles and just pay for regular maintenance.

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    3. Re:Android to iDevice by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Apple user: "I love my phone."

      Android user: "I hate your phone!"

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  5. "low end" by michaelmalak · · Score: 3, Funny

    If "high end" means non-replaceable batteries, I'll stick with " low end".

    1. Re:"low end" by Mr.+Droopy+Drawers · · Score: 3, Interesting

      actually, no, I'm not. Resorting to insults doesn't really prove your point. I do, indeed, know how to charge a LiOn battery.

      Here's the steps outlined by iFixit:
      "... eject the SIM tray, heat up the battery door, draw off the battery door with a suction cup, then separate the door with a case-opening tool, then undo 13 screws, heat up the LCD assembly, pry open the charging chip flex ribbons, pull off the front-facing camera connector, battery connector, ear speaker connector, remove the entire motherboard, then pry off the battery with a spudger tool."

      That doesn't sound like "pop out the battery and drop in the replacement" to me. The S3 and the S5 -- which I have personally replace the battery on -- are truly replaceable. Indeed, I owned the S3 for 3 years and replaced the battery once. I don't consider that LiOn abuse, frankly.

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    2. Re:"low end" by swb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, I don't see it as in issue for anybody.

      Every iPhone I buy has been used *hard* for two years by two busy professionals working as consultants, and then used continuously as a home telephone (we kept our landline number and ported it to a cell number because it was actually cheaper than the monthly taxfest that is a landline) and then used pretty hard by a 10 year old boy after that.

      I may buy a new iPhone every year, but every one of those iPhones gets used for four years and by then it's not even a question of battery that's an issue, but of software and processor obsolescence for any kind of a serious tasks, and I don't think that's really all that different for Android users, either. The only hardware issue I've ever had was a volume up button on a 4S that crapped out six months in, and it was swapped out in store for a replacement phone in 10 minutes.

      I really don't understand guys like you that are so angry about people who do buy a phone every year. Admittedly the biggest "feature" add on year on year is mostly CPU/RAM, although the screen size bump with the iPhone 6 Plus has been the main thing this year. It's a fucking tax writeoff for us and even if we bought 2-3 phones individually we'd be looking at upgrades every 18 months or so anyway, so one every 12-14 months doesn't seem outrageous.

      I sometimes think the hostility is because you're too broke, too cheap or just flat-out jealous.

  6. Phone Switching by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    a survey found that 16 percent of people who bought the latest iPhones previously owned Android devices

    So 16% of iPhone purchases were made by people who previously owned Android phones. (I'm going to assume here that "owned Android devices" doesn't mean you owned a Nexus tablet and now are buying an iPhone.) This statistic is useless, though, unless you also find out how many people buying Android phones previously owned iPhones. If there's an equivalent amount of people getting Android phones to replace their iPhones, then the "16%" isn't really a loss for Android. It's just normal churn. Presenting the 16% figure on its own is misleading as it makes it seem like people are fleeing Android and nobody ever leaves Apple.

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    1. Re:Phone Switching by ArcadeMan · · Score: 5, Funny

      Presenting the 16% figure on its own is misleading as it makes it seem like people are fleeing Android and nobody ever leaves Apple.

      It's misleading statistics like these that will leave Apple with a 291% market share in a few years.

  7. It's not about platform... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Google doesn't care about the platform, they want screens in front of faces.
    Putting 100 android screens in front of 100 faces 1% of the time is making them money.
    Putting 50 iOS screens in front of 50 faces 2% of the time, is making them money.

    There is nothing tricky about this for google... They want to grow, they biggest source of income is ads, ads are all about getting people to look at things.
    They have two options, they can try to compete for a bigger slice of the same sized pie, push all the other ad companies out of business...
    OR they can get us to spend more time with our screens in front of our faces, the pie gets bigger and even if every one keeps the same percentage of the pie, Google makes more money than the rest of them.

    Why is google working on self driving cars? They want you to use your commute time to browse the web.
    Why is google working on glass? They want to be in front of your face every waking hour of the day.
    Why is google running internet lines and looking into connectivity by high altitude balloons? Every hour they can one additional person connected to the internet is making them money, connectivity to places that don't have it expands their portion of the pie.

    Google provides Jquery libraries, graphing software, mapping software, and DNS servers to make the internet faster and more reliable because the more people looking at more pages makes them more money...

    Screens in front of faces, that is what google wants... They don't care about the platform, they gave andriod away to get cheap devices out there to put screens in front of faces.

  8. Android IS a huge financial success. . . by Idou · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google pays billions to Apple to make its search engine the default search provider for iOS device

    Think of how much MORE Google would have to pay if Android was not the dominate OS. . . HINT: Companies usually Open Source technologies to reduce costs, not to DIRECTLY increase revenues.

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  9. Re:Android switcher to iPhone by jazzis · · Score: 4, Informative

    You need to learn more about the "Settings" area of iOS configuration app security. Don't let hate blind you to OS configuration.

  10. Power User? by DjDanny · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would a 'Power User' move from Android to iOS? They won't be able to do any of their 'power things' any more.

    This article makes no sense at all.

  11. The actual battle is not Android vs iOS. by wvmarle · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't think there is really a fight between iOS and Android. iOS is Apple, Android is the rest. OK, there's Windows Phone and Blackberry but they don't really count in this market. Windows Phone is almost exclusive to Nokia; Blackberry is just Blackberry.

    The battle is between Apple, Samsung, LG, Huawei, etc. Not between the OSes. Samsung is targeting the high-end market about as much as Apple, though while Apple targets only the high end, Samsung targets also other segments of the market. The other manufacturers are targeting anything from rock bottom to the top.

    We should really stop this "Android vs iOS" nonsense. I've never, ever heard someone choosing a phone based on it having iOS or Android. Instead they want an Apple iPhone (which happens to come with iOS). Or they want the latest Samsung (which happens to come with Android - Samsung's Android, a version of Android bastardised to an extent that it is hardly recognisable as the same OS that runs many other phones, from manufacturers that use something close to stock Android).

    Now it may very well be that Apple users are the ones that are more susceptible to advertising (which in turn could explain why they chose Apple's offering; after all Apple's marketing is second to none), and hence more valuable to advertisers. But it's not just that "Apple/iOS has the high-end market". Samsung's top end is at least as high end as Apple's iPhones and they seem to compete quite strongly, taking a good share of that market.

    That Apple makes a lot more profit on their phones than Samsung and other Android makers do... that's a whole different story. Maybe it simply is the case that Apple users are those that are swayed easiest by advertising, making them pay a massive premium for their phones. And people that already have shown to be happy to buy big in an advertising ploy should be valuable for other advertisers as well.

  12. Understand how the companies make money! by Aqualung812 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Google is an advertising company. They make money from getting the advertising targets (you) to use their services, and charge the advertisers for access to you.
    They're not going to make money off Android directly, it is just a way to get people on their platform.
    This is why Google still makes iOS and Windows Phone applications. They just care that you're using their platform, regardless of how.

    Apple is a hardware company.They make money from selling phones, and increasingly off of their app stores, but obviously not enough to open their app store to Google.
    This is why you DON'T see iTunes, Facetime, or iMessage for Android. Their goal is to sell devices.

    Microsoft is a software company. They make money off selling software, so they will, like Google, try to make their software available on as many platforms as they can. They, also like Google, care less about the phone sales and more about getting you as a loyal user of their products.
    Unlike Google, Microsoft users are their customers.

    Whenever people compare these three companies, they need to look at the core of who these companies are.
    I'm not claiming one is better than the other, and in fact I use all three daily.
    They just have different motivations for playing on the same playground.

    It is somewhat like 3 kids all playing baseball together, but one is playing to be a pro baseball player, another is playing to have fun, and another is playing to impress a girl.
    You can't compare the 3 kids to each other and say one is doing better than another, because each is measuring their success a different way.

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  13. The swicthing rate is declining by Immerial · · Score: 3, Informative

    The interesting thing on trying to find the number going the other way... I came across conversion numbers from previous years for Android to iOS. They have been slowly decreasing year after year. 2012 the rate was 25% (http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/11/11/more-iphone-buyers-switching-from-android-this-year-than-in-2012). 2013 the rate was 20% (http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/08/19/study-finds-20-of-apple-iphone-users-switched-from-android-in-past-year). This article says 16% in 2014. Judging from the derth of articles touting the rate the other way... would seem to indicate the rate from iOS is less than the rate to iOS... but that's far from proof.