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Yahoo Killing Maps, Pipes & More

alphadogg writes: Yahoo is shutting down its mapping service, Pipes and reducing the availability of Yahoo TV and Yahoo Music. The company has decided instead to focus on three major parts of its business: search, communications, and digital content. "We made this decision to better align resources to Yahoo's priorities as our business has evolved since we first launched Yahoo Maps eight years ago," says the company.

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  1. It's going to be painful... by bobbied · · Score: 2, Interesting

    To watch Yahoo slowly die because they got out classed by all the upstarts in the market.

    Really, they fell prey to the PHB effect before their competitors did. MBA's took over too fast at Yahoo after the founders took their money and ran...

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    1. Re:It's going to be painful... by farble1670 · · Score: 2

      To watch Yahoo slowly die because they got out classed by all the upstarts in the market.

      yeah those upstarts like Google? Google hasn't been an upstart for a very long time.

    2. Re:It's going to be painful... by bobbied · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They got taken over by MBA's too after the founders took their money and ran...

      Facebook and Twitter are next....

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    3. Re:It's going to be painful... by binarylarry · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Google is still run by the founders and early advisors.

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    4. Re: It's going to be painful... by AvitarX · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Google seems to push relevant parts of its other stuff into the results, rather than overwhelm with it.

      If I search for a place, they show me the map, a news topic, they show me news, etc etc.

      They don't push me to news when it's not relevant.

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    5. Re:It's going to be painful... by bobbied · · Score: 2

      No... They still work for the company and collect paychecks, but it's actually RUN by the board of directors who are elected by the share holders....

      But to be fair, they have retained a lot of their original talent, it's just in the process of being watered down by MBA's and turning into what all companies become.... Which is why they are beating Yahoo... But even mighty Google is not immune to the march of the MBA's

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    6. Re:It's going to be painful... by kamapuaa · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yahoo was done down by sloppy engineering. Everybody went to Yahoo for first the curated internet and later (when that proved impossible) internet searches, and the internet searches were terrible. Later Google came along, their results actually good, and there was a sudden migration to a site which could actually get shit done.

      I don't know if MBAs helped or hurt Yahoo's case, but ultimately they were just swapping deck chairs on the Titanic. There's no possible way a site with shitty search results could compete with a site with good search results.

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    7. Re:It's going to be painful... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      Yahoo was done down by sloppy engineering. ... There's no possible way a site with shitty search results could compete with a site with good search results.

      Not just search. Their maps were crappy and rarely updated. Their email doesn't even have basic features like sub-folders, although they first promised to add them 18 years ago. Their services are so bad, that I have heard some employers will reject resumes coming from @yahoo.com, presumably because anyone using Yahoo is too dumb to hire.

    8. Re: It's going to be painful... by Anrego · · Score: 2

      Indeed.

      Creepy as it is, the "oh by the way" stuff google does is often relevant. I actually kinda like how when I get an email about a shipment from UPS, google picks up on the tracking number in the email and provides a quick link to the tracking page.

      And the maps are a no-brainer, because yeah, a lot of times when I google for a place, I'm gonna wanna know where it's located.

    9. Re:It's going to be painful... by kamapuaa · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yahoo held on to Jerry Yang WAY longer than most stockholders or common sense would have dictated. Mostly because he and various people he knows owned/own such a large percentage of the company (if not a controlling share).

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    10. Re:It's going to be painful... by ron_ivi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      MBA's took over too fast at Yahoo after the founders took their money and ran...

      Even a bit worse than that --- after they watched AOL buy Time Warner they wanted to emulate that they hired some Warner Brothers guy as their CEO who didn't know much about the internet. And they never invest in the technologies they have. Consider all the times they aquired the leading company in a space --- only to *not* invest in it and kill it:

      • Broadcast.com - that Yahoo bought for ~$4 billion - was the leading audio/video site of its time, and could have been Youtube + Hulu + Netflix
      • Geocities.com - that Yahoo bought for ~3 billion - was the leading social network of its time - could have been MySpace+Facebook
      • Egroups - for a half a billion - another social network component.
      • del.icio.us - another social network component
      • Altavista as part of Overture - that Yahoo bought for i-forget-how-much - was the leading search engine of it's time - and yahoo doesn't even use them, preferring to pay competitors for search results.
      • MusicMatch - that coulda been Pandora.

      And such irony that they *now* descide to focus on Search --- after having bought what was once the best search engine on the internet (AltaVista), yet have since then been paying competitors to do search for them.

    11. Re:It's going to be painful... by ron_ivi · · Score: 2

      but it's actually RUN by the board of directors who are elected by the share holders....

      Not really --- note that most Google shareholders hold stock with far fewer voting rights than the class "B" shares that Brin and Page hold. People holding the lesser "A" and "C" shares in Google don't really run anything,

    12. Re:It's going to be painful... by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not to mention, that "Pipes" thing actually looks pretty cool... too bad they never marketed it, so I didn't know it existed until after they decided to shut it down!

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    13. Re:It's going to be painful... by Alomex · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But you forgot to add that they refused to pay 1 million for Larry and Sergei's search engine.... which forced them to go on their own and create Google.

      How's that for a fscked corporate M&A department?

    14. Re:It's going to be painful... by whoever57 · · Score: 2

      It is my impression that Yahoo email accounts are compromised and used to send spam far more often than other services. This could be due to one of 3 reasons:
      1. Yahoo has more email subscribers than competing services.
      2. X-site scripting vulnerabilities in Yahoo.
      3. More clueless users.

      I don't think that the magnitude of 1 is large enough, so options 2 and 3 are left. I think that there were some cross-site scripting vulnerabilities reported a year or two back, so it might be this.

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    15. Re: It's going to be painful... by TWX · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You sure you aren't describing langoliers rather than MBAs?

      There's a difference?

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    16. Re: It's going to be painful... by gumbi+west · · Score: 2

      Google is really good at search and keeps getting better.

      But everything else they do is just awful. Maps, broken and their too stubborn to fix it to what it used to be; android is a mess, my moto G is about 1/2 as fast AT BEST for the MLB app relative to my iPhone, most apps crash every few days, and only one app makes any intuitive sense to me (the google app, love it) whereas about 80% of my iPhone apps make sense right away, plus privacy is just a list of demands and no most of my apps can turn on the camera without asking or even telling me since the "simplified" the permissions interface; google+, 'nuf said; google docs is OK for scheduling when you don't share calendar software, but that comes up only every once in awhile.

      Anyways, many tech firms are really just one idea that, once played out, is just done.

    17. Re:It's going to be painful... by erice · · Score: 2

      No... They still work for the company and collect paychecks, but it's actually RUN by the board of directors who are elected by the share holders....

      Larry and Sergey still own a majority of the voting shares. They own the board, by design.

    18. Re:It's going to be painful... by Blaskowicz · · Score: 2

      4. Weak password and/or high password reuse are enough to get you hijacked, and Yahoo doesn't lock you out or require a mobile phone number like microsoft and gmail do.

      This is a good feature by the way. They tried to get me to provide a phone member, and to convert my account to a "social media" one but it was easily clicked through and they stopped buggering me about it.
      So, you get long term webmail that doesn't lock you out. Your webmail can be locked if hijacked, but this can be recovered after a waiting period and once a new password is set you aren't getting hijacked.
      It's probably better to get webmail service elsewhere, but there doesn't seem to be many non paid options.

  2. Yahoo has maps? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who knew?

    1. Re:Yahoo has maps? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yahoo maps is actually really nice. It is somehow one of the only map services that has a scale bar. I continue to be baffled by Google leaving this out. What the hell is the point of a map without a scale bar?

    2. Re:Yahoo has maps? by kamapuaa · · Score: 2

      I have not once wanted to use a scale bar. Really you want to know how long it takes, or how many miles it takes, and it does that. If for some reason Google Maps stopped telling you this information automatically, then yeah I guess a scale bar would be a good way to estimate the same information,

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    3. Re:Yahoo has maps? by xaxa · · Score: 2

      The scale bar is very useful in unfamiliar countries. Is the next building to my hotel is 2km away, or 200m, or 20m? Can I walk to the beach?

      It's much quicker to look at a scale than to ask for directions, especially when I don't know what the destinations are called.

  3. interesting by lucm · · Score: 2

    The company has decided instead to focus on three major parts of its business: search, communications, and digital content.

    So that's what Yahoo does. I wondered what was their business besides unreliable email and annoying CEOs.

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  4. Yahoo Should... by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yahoo should concentrate on figuring out who will be the last person out of the building, so they can make sure to turn off the lights.

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  5. Uhm by Eyezen · · Score: 2

    ...reducing the availabilty of TV and Music ...instead focus on digital content

  6. Pipes was actually useful by afaiktoit · · Score: 3, Interesting

    its like companies want RSS to die or something.

  7. Re:they ought to kill mail too by LessThanObvious · · Score: 2

    My only issue with Yahoo mail is the number of permissions the current Mobile app version wants. If I ever switch phones the Yahoo app goes way, I will not give them more permissions. I already ditched the Yahoo Finance app for privacy reasons. That I can live without since Yahoo Finance now sucks and isn't likely to return. Really Porter Stansbury and his end of the world predictions on the front page of Yahoo finance, meh, get off my lawn*.

    *Due to drought conditions visitors will now have to get of my dirt patch.

  8. noooo! not pipes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I use pipes every single day in bash. What are we supposed to do now, redirect everything into a temporary file, like in the early days? That gets cumbersome with many steps, and anyway it is less multi-processor efficient, and CPUs have more than one core these days!

  9. Re:they ought to kill mail too by CaptainDork · · Score: 2

    I have two (2) Yahoo! emails that I have paid for since 2002 and they work very well.

    I have 17 free Yahoo! email accounts and the ones I never actually even used are good spam magnets and stuff.

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  10. Re:Women CEO. by Grishnakh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Oh please. Carly Fiorina was a female CEO too, and look at the great job she did at HP.... oh wait. Now it's run by Meg Whitman... hmm, another bad example.

    Well, there's also GM, run by Mary Barra... maybe that's not such a great example, considering the ignition switch problem.

    Seriously, though, there's a bunch of female CEOs these days, as seen in this list. I can't say, however, that any of these companies are all that great.

  11. Okay, why are you all being so tough on Yahoo? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Okay, sure, they're in a tough spot. None of us knew they even had maps, their email sucks, and nobody wants to work there because of recently introduced draconian measures.

    But that logo tweak Marissa Mayer shepherded to completion is amazing!

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  12. Reducing Their Focus? by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 2

    Yahoo is [...] reducing the availability of Yahoo TV and Yahoo Music. The company has decided instead to focus on three major parts of its business: search, communications, and digital content.

    Okay, TV and Music seem to be "digital content." So they're reducing what they're focusing on?

    And if they're reducing, why are they spending what I assume is a ludicrous amount of money on this?

  13. Re:Melissa Mayer by hambone142 · · Score: 2

    Marissa is to Yahoo as Carly is to HP.

    Both couldn't leave anything alone and both failed.

    I removed Yahoo news from my bookmarks. When I saw how much overhead was downloaded and how long it took (I'm in a rural area on satellite internet) I just got fed up with it and canned the link.

    I have a grandfathered yahoo paid email account but don't use it for anything serious.

    When one judges "effectiveness" by the quarterly report, ya get CEOs that will do anything to meet the numbers. Often, at the risk of the long term health of the company.

  14. Just "communications" and "digital content," eh? by Art3x · · Score: 2

    The company has decided instead to focus on three major parts of its business: search, communications, and digital content.

    I'm sure they had something more specific in mind, but "communications" and "digital content" covers just about everything.

  15. Re:I like Yahoo! for a couple of things by istartedi · · Score: 2

    I also enjoy tracking stocks on Yahoo portfolios. It was just a slight nick in my chest (as opposed to a stab in the heart) when they replaced the old Gnuplots with the new charts, which have less data. Maybe they were getting screwed by the data provider, and if that's the reason then I can understand that. Anyway, their portfolios and charts remain useful, and I still use them too. It's nice to be able to check stocks you own without logging into a broker, and check stuff you don't own but are thinking about--all in one glance. Unfortunately, there are sometimes errors in things such as dividend yield. You have to take anything beyond the chart and price with a grain of salt.

    The problem with Yahoo neglecting and/or killing off all these services is that while one in particular may not be the killer app that makes us stay, collectively there is something for everybody. It could be death by 1000 cuts. Really though, it seems like they're flailing around in the advertising sand-pit just like a lot of other people in the biz. You know, when you flail in a sand-pit it just gets deeper. Yahoo looks worse than others because they've been doing it longer.

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