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Stormtrooper Arrested

Kexel writes: Nope, not an April Fools joke. A forty-year-old man in Massachusetts bought a Stormtrooper outfit, and then walked through a neighborhood near a school to show his friends. The principal saw his fake blaster and called 911. The man was then arrested and charged with disturbing a school and loitering. A police spokesman said the man "used bad judgment." I guess this shows you what not to do when geeking out on Star Wars.

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  1. Fear of guns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe schools should require some kind of basic course to familiarize kids with real guns, so they don't grow up into these principals who can't tell the difference.

    1. Re:Fear of guns by sexconker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Contrasting it against a white stormtrooper outfit, yes, even if I was some dumbass who didn't know what a stormtrooper was.

    2. Re:Fear of guns by clonehappy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      would you be able to distinguish it from a real gun from 100 feet away?

      No, and does it even fucking matter? Guns aren't illegal.

      This guy's a moron, and maybe it's OK that they ran him in just to make sure he wasn't up to no good, but fuck pressing charges. And the principal? A pussy who has no business being in charge of anyone, let alone our children. And we wonder why kids are growing up so soft...look at these "role models" they see in schools! Nanny-state limp-wrists who soil themselves at the sight of a plastic gun.

    3. Re:Fear of guns by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Let's assume for a moment that the principal spent the last 35ish years off this planet and hence does not know what a Stormtrooper is...

      What does he see? A guy in a plastic suit. Why would anyone who has anything indecent in mind put himself into gear that impacts his ability to move and see negatively?

      The principal's behaviour is irrational at best. Insane at worst.

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    4. Re:Fear of guns by fizzer06 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Did most of us automatically assume the principal is a man?

    5. Re:Fear of guns by Altus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't think open carry is allowed in mass. All permits for handguns atleast are concealed carry as I understand it. So a man carrying a pistol shaped gun openly could be arrested.

      That doesn't change the fact that this is incredibly stupid. A toy is a toy and a storm trooper outfit should be a dead give away. Even if the principal fucked this up the police should have had more sense

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    6. Re:Fear of guns by clonehappy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Admittedly, I did. I just Googled the school and saw a picture of the principal. It makes more sense now. But rest assured, nanny-statists come in all sexes, races, colors, and creeds.

    7. Re:Fear of guns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      open carry is allowed everywhere. gun laws are unconstitutional and should not be obeyed.

    8. Re:Fear of guns by shmlco · · Score: 1, Insightful

      "What is the difference between a tactical assault riffle and hunting riffle? Nothing except the ornamental bits."

      Ah. You mean the equipment mounting rails, carrying handle, recoil buffer, flash suppressor, tripod mounts, and high-impact plastic barrel shrouds and butts are just ornamental and serve no other purpose? Wow. Who knew?

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    9. Re:Fear of guns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The police don't care. They get to arrest someone so they're happy. Anybody else find it ironic that a guy got dressed up in a storm trooper costume(soldier of a facist, police state) and then got arrested by soldiers of what many would argue has become a fascist police state?

      hahahaha.....

    10. Re:Fear of guns by OhPlz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I must have missed the part where he had an actual firearm. No firearm, no grounds for arrest.

    11. Re:Fear of guns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      open carry is allowed everywhere. gun laws are unconstitutional and should not be obeyed.

      Next time I see some dipshit open-carrying his rifle into Chipotle, I'm going to sneak up on him in the parking lot and tackle him. At best, I'll be a hero. At worst, I'll be wrong. But the guy carrying might learn a valuable lesson: even if open carry is illegal, it's still not socially acceptable. And I'll have plausible deniability either way.

      At worst, you'd get shot.

      On second thought, make that at best.

    12. Re:Fear of guns by spire3661 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You do realize that if he can justifiably shoot you for attacking him, right? Assault is more socially unacceptable than open carry.

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    13. Re:Fear of guns by Noah+Haders · · Score: 5, Insightful

      its legal to open carry a TOY, even in Mass. Ffs the dude was dressed like a storm trooper.

    14. Re:Fear of guns by IgnitusBoyone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      At worst you will get shot and he will have a very good case for "Afraid for his life". You might be better off if you tacle him while yelling "Shooter in the Parking lot lets detain him". Then all those individuals who conceal carry have an excuse to be "Afraid for their lives". Its all about making the legalize work for you!

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    15. Re:Fear of guns by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Contrasting it against a white stormtrooper outfit, yes, even if I was some dumbass who didn't know what a stormtrooper was.

      The principal may have been a dumbass, but the real problem here is the cops. The principal was somewhat justified in reporting him, since she didn't know if the gun was real or not. But the cops knew it was a toy, and arrested him anyway. As soon as they realized it was not a real gun, and didn't even look like a real gun, they should have said "This is not the stormtrooper we are looking for. You can go about your business."

    16. Re:Fear of guns by anagama · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This guy's a moron, and maybe it's OK that they ran him in ...

      Really? What makes him a moron -- the fact that our society has become so ridiculously rigid you can't wear a costume outside? Are we all going to have assume the uniform of loafers, dockers, and a button down shirt?

      The morons here are the cops, the principal, and a society that has totally lost any contact with good sense. But then, this is Massachusetts -- home of the city that accepted a total eradication of the 4th Amendment (1) and lost it's shit over a blinky toy (2).

      (1) http://poorrichardsnews.com/po...
      (2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2...

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    17. Re:Fear of guns by Mr.+Shotgun · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Let's say you scenario plays out perfectly, you manage to attack a gun owner unprovoked in broad daylight and miraculously end up not getting shot. What then? What will you do when the police arrest you and you are staring down a trial and conviction for assault and battery? More over, what defense will you offer up when the prosecutor cites the post you and that other chucklehead made as evidence of premeditation, bumping your charges up to aggravated assault?

      Face it, you and your ilk or no different than a bunch of homophobes talking on Facebook about how you're gonna go gay-bashing later. Just because you don't like something does not give you the right to attack others for it. Grow the fuck up, people will do things you don't approve of but no one made you judge, jury, and executioner of what is right or wrong.

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  2. A police spokesman said the man "used bad judgment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    O_o
    And the police used what? Not to mention the principal! About the only sane person in the middle of all this seems to be the poor guy that got arrested!

  3. Real Headline by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Idiot Principal Wets Himself, Calls Cops on Guy in Stormtrooper Outfit with a Fake Gun

    Hoplophobia is just a natural extension of zero tolerance (a.k.a. zero common sense) that has infested the school system.

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  4. Wha?!? by MondoGordo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Possibly the stupidest thing I've heard this year .. and considering the year so far ... that's saying a lot.

  5. No Recourse by Mycroft-X · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Those charges make no sense.

    Yet the individual arrested now has a record, misses work, possibly loses their job, and if prosecuted by the DA, has the expense of defending himself against the charges. All without recourse.

    1. Re:No Recourse by Iamthecheese · · Score: 5, Insightful

      America: If you can't afford lawyers, fuck you.

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    2. Re:No Recourse by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 3, Insightful

      He can sue the police, which is the recourse available everyone should exploit for being wrongfully arrested.

      Possibly, but not likely. Police generally have qualified immunity, which basically will prevent their being sued unless there's proof of serious and unreasonable violation of Constitutional rights. This was just upheld again by the Supreme Court last year.

      Read that last link to see how far "qualified immunity" goes -- guy gets pulled over for broken headlight, then takes off in the car after cops ask him to get out of the car for no apparent reason. Cops set off in high-speed pursuit, fired three shots at the car, and AFTER he finally crashed, the police fired 12 shots into the vehicle killing the guy and the (completely innocent) passenger... for no apparent reason.

      Supreme Court ruled unanimously that cops have qualified immunity in that case. There's basically NO CHANCE they'll be able to be sued for arresting a guy carrying something that looked like a gun near a school in a state where carrying guns near schools is illegal.

  6. Re:Maybe we SHOULD fear guns by operagost · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They'll be right down the hall from where quaint notions like the rights to life, liberty, and property are exhibited.

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  7. Re:Maybe we SHOULD fear guns by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why? Why the fuck should kids be familiar with real guns? I think you grew up in the wrong neighborhood.

    Hmm, a bit of a hoplophobe, I see...

    Why should you be familiar with guns? Well, how about because you're much less likely to do something stupid with one (like treat it as a toy) if you know something about them?

    Also, you're much less likely to wet yourself at sight of one if you know something about them.

    Keep in mind that we have no problems giving 15-year-olds access to automobiles (in some States. 16 in others), which are MUCH more dangerous than guns. Note that there are probably more guns in the US than cars, yet more people killed by cars than by guns.

    Plus there's the old "we fear what we do not understand" thing. Knowing something about guns will be more likely to lead to less panic over the things....

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  8. Re:Could you tell a difference at distance? by Coren22 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For the purpose of this paragraph, “firearm” shall mean any pistol, revolver, rifle or smoothbore arm from which a shot, bullet or pellet can be discharged by whatever means.

    So, now a plastic blaster is a firearm capable of discharging shot, bullets or pellets?

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  9. Re:Could you tell a difference at distance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Jeez. When I was in college -- in Canada -- a teacher brought a rifle to class and fired it, multiple times.

    He was a physics prof, and he was demonstrating the use of a ballistic pendulum to determine e.g. bullet velocity. Nobody cared. Mind, this same college also had a pistol club, and a range on campus. And no, it wasn't a military college.

    Kind of ironic that the state where one of the signal events of the American Revolution (ie, Boston Tea Party) started is now populated by bigger pansies than the United Empire Loyalists who left. "Home of the brave." snort

  10. Re:Could you tell a difference at distance? by eth1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, if you DON'T report it you can be fined and prosecuted at least for a misdemeanor according to the last paragraph. So the principal is screwed both ways and cannot use common sense like the rest of us would...

    No he's not... There's a world of difference between:
    Operator: 911, do you have an emergency?
    Overreacting principal: OMG! There's a guy with a gun on campus!!!1!one! Help! I have the school on lockdown!

    and

    Operator: 911, do you have an emergency?
    Reasonable principal: There's some guy wearing a Star Wars costume here. He has what's probably a prop/toy gun, but I'm required by law to report firearms on campus. Can you send an officer to make contact and make sure it's just a toy?

  11. Re:Could you tell a difference at distance? by LWATCDR · · Score: 3, Insightful

    True but the police should have just checked it out and went on their way. Dressing up a stormtrooper should not be a crime. I wonder if I dressed as a giant Penguin if I would have been arrested.

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  12. Re:Could you tell a difference at distance? by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Yes, spree killers being so well known for their rational behaviour and all. I'm sure no-one would adopt an affectation [wikipedia.org] to commit a massacre [wikipedia.org] when more practical clothing is available."

    I have no problem with someone calling the police. The police should have stopped him and asked to see the blaster. When it was shown to be nothing but a toy then they tell him, "cool costume but you might not want to wear it all the time. It can freak some people out. Have a nice day."
    End of story.

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  13. Re:Could you tell a difference at distance? by yodleboy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Oh get a grip. The only thing people who carry are afraid of is being in the wrong place at the wrong time and having to watch their loved ones die because they didn't have the means to at least try to defend them or get them to safety. If you feel comfortable with pleading for mercy or waiting on the arrival of 'the authorities' to ensure their safety then that's your choice.

    I keep a first aid kit handy because bad things happen sometimes. I have insurance because bad things happen sometimes. I carry because bad things happen sometimes. Being somewhat prepared to take some responsibility for your own ass is not crazy, paranoid or illegal (yet).

  14. Re:Could you tell a difference at distance? by Time_Ngler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or someone could have a real gun in a potato sack. If you saw someone carrying a potato sack, and assumed there wasn't a gun in there, a malicious person could carry a potato sack with a gun in it to catch people off guard, too!