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iOS 9 To Have Ad Blocking Capabilities

An anonymous reader writes: iOS 9 will reportedly carry ad blocking capabilities for it's Safari browser when it is released later this year. The feature wasn't rolled out with the usual fanfare one might expect, and flew under the radar. ZDNet reports: "It's not immediately clear why the new ad-blocking privacy feature was included in iOS 9, due out later this year. After all, the iPhone and iPad maker has its own advertising network -- even if its success was limited (which is putting it nicely). What's clear is that allowing ad-blockers in iOS 9 could deliver a serious blow to Google, the biggest rival to Apple in the mobile space, because advertising remains a massive portion of the search giant's income."

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  1. simpler? exclusive ad channel? by MessyBlob · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This makes sense in the Apple ecosystem. It speeds up web browsing and streamlines the experience, and if ads are blocked at browser or OS level, it gives Apple a chance to create their own approved ad market. I think it's a step too far to assume that they can insert unintended content arbitrarily into a web page or existing ad slot.

    1. Re:simpler? exclusive ad channel? by msauve · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why sell ads, when you can sell the ability to let ads be seen?

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    2. Re:simpler? exclusive ad channel? by Black.Shuck · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Apple makes, relatively speaking, no money at all from advertising.

      Indeed, if you take its entire software ecosystem as a whole, it makes up for a mere fraction of Apple's total profit when compared to its hardware sales.

      So when we're all being very clever cynics and conspiracy theorists, perhaps we would do well to look at the motivation of a company in a holistic sense. For Apple, perhaps if they let users control ads, their overall experience of the platform improves, and they're more likely to remain loyal and keep buying hardware.

    3. Re: simpler? exclusive ad channel? by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you can't beat them, destroy their revenue stream. It's the same reason Google released free online office software to combat Microsoft and why Android is free. It's just good business sense.

    4. Re:simpler? exclusive ad channel? by gnasher719 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why sell ads, when you can make bazillions from selling phones, and you might sell even more if web sites come ad free?

      As for hurting Google, that's a strategy that Google loves to employ themselves, so that's likely a very welcome side effect.

    5. Re: simpler? exclusive ad channel? by monkeyxpress · · Score: 2

      And one of the main reasons they developed Chrome (though the standard compliance thing was a big one too).

      You can see why Google had to shaft Apple and push Android though. Imagine the situation they would be in now if Apple dominated all mobile and they were dependent on their 'generosity' to allow advertising and services through.

      However I doubt they are doing this so they can switch off the tap to Google. It won't destroy Google or make Apple much extra money, but will absolutely spark of the thermo-nuclear war Jobs was so keen for. There would probably be enough lawyering to pull global GDP out of its present malaise if they did that.

    6. Re:simpler? exclusive ad channel? by jbolden · · Score: 3, Informative

      Apple does $231.5b in revenue. Paid apps revenue is $5.37b. So a couple percent. Advertising BTW is much smaller at $94.5m

    7. Re:simpler? exclusive ad channel? by vivaoporto · · Score: 3, Informative
      That's not what's in play here. Here is the same story with more sources, more technical information and without the Google vs. Apple flamebait angle:

      Adblocking is coming to the iPhone with iOS 9

      The next version of Safari will let users block ads on iPhones and iPads.

      With the roll-out of iOS 9, Apple is giving app developers an easy way to create mobile ad blockers for Safari on iPhones and iPads. The new "Content Blocking" feature allows developers to pass a JSON file with a set of rules for images, popups, cookies, resources and other elements in Safari.

      Sources like The Next Web point out that such a feature would allow ad blocking and privacy apps "to exist on iOS for the first time since launch".

      On the other hand the Marketing Land warns that this move "could chip away at Google's and other ad networks' mobile ad revenue from iOS devices", NiemanLab calls it "a blow for mobile advertising" and Cult of Mac asks if that is a good thing and proposes as an answer:

      Is that a good thing? Well, maybe for the average user, for a period of time. But when you block ads on the web, you prevent content providers from earning any revenue from them. If we all did that, our favorite sites would have to find other sources of revenue, or stop supplying content altogether.

      I have no idea why, in a technical and privacy oriented forum as ours, the focus of the accepted submission was not on the fact that this is an "Adblocker app enabler" move instead of a "Google killer move".

    8. Re:simpler? exclusive ad channel? by oldmac31310 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If those numbers are correct it is really an endorsement of Apple and their strategies. They sell things people want to buy. How dare they?!! Advertising is pure filth and the lowest rung on the business ladder. Google, Facebook and their ilk are parasites. Apple seems to stand a little above the mire.

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    9. Re:simpler? exclusive ad channel? by oldmac31310 · · Score: 2

      Because the submitters like to be sensationalist and the editors are not really editors and haven't a clue about anything. Next. Obligatory: New here?

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    10. Re: simpler? exclusive ad channel? by mrbcs · · Score: 2
      I use a hosts file on my computer to block ads and I use Adblock on my iPad.

      I use a PVR or DVR on my TV. I hate ads. They don't work. I wasted a few thousand dollars a couple years ago on radio ads to realize that people have tuned out all ads.

      I pay for satelite radio to avoid ads there.

      Find another revenue stream. Ads are history. Only the ad execs and the hopeful still want them to work.

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  2. Re:websites forced for two ad networks then by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 2, Informative

    > though, it might finally lead to ads being delivered from the same host as the rest of the content on the page

    This cannot be done. much of graphical and especially streaming content is from more robust "content delivery networks", such as Akamai, that host much larger proxies closer to the web browser's "final mile". Even modest icon or graphical content on a web page will overwhelm many corporate core web servers without these third-party hosted proxies, and it's especially true for ad content. Slashdot itself benefits from its extremely simple format, and can thus handle its load quite easily with quite modest resources. But if they tried to host the advertising content all on the same systems, I'm quite certain it would collapse the servers if not the firewalls themselves.

  3. Re:websites forced for two ad networks then by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    But if they tried to host the advertising content all on the same systems, I'm quite certain it would collapse the servers if not the firewalls themselves.

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  4. Including App Store ads? by garyok · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The ad-blocking better include those bloody irritating ads that switch you out of the browser with no warning to the App Store for Clash of Clans, or some other flavour of freemium shiteware the kids are degrading themselves with these days.

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  5. iOS is the majority of Google's mobile revenue by WankerWeasel · · Score: 4, Informative

    iOS drives 75% of Google's mobile revenue meaning this could really hurt them depending on how much is blocked. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05...

  6. Re:They're extensions by johanw · · Score: 2

    Yes, and indeed ONLY to Safari. iAds in apps are not affected.

    I prefer the rooted Android solution where ads are blocked in the hosts file. They are blocked then for ALL apps, not only the browser (and disabeling the Google add service with Lucky Patcher kills the remaining few).

  7. Browser Extension Required by jomuyo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    After reading the linked ZDNet article, looks like Apple is only allowing extensions in Safari to block content with in the browser. Thus allowing things like Ghostery and NoScript to be possible or more affective in iOS 9. Bottom line, if you want ad-blocking in iOS 9 you will have to wait for the proper ad-blocking extension to be available, or write one yourself.

  8. Re:They're extensions by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 2

    I think if you say HOSTS file three times in a mirror, APK shows up.

    (Which is a great initialism when you're talking about android.)

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  9. Not clear? by nine-times · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not immediately clear why the new ad-blocking privacy feature was included in iOS 9

    Well there's a pretty obvious reason why, and I don't see any reason to discount it. It's a feature that users will like, and Apple is in the business of trying to make devices that people like. Even more specifically, Apple's general approach to making "devices that people like" tends to be to try to take the hassle out of using the product, as much as is possible. Ads are a big hassle.

    It seems like a pretty obvious answer, so much so that I don't see a reason to go hunting for another one without some kind of additional information that there's some other reason.

  10. More Paywalls by Merk42 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If it gets really popular, how long until sites remove ads altogether and instead switch to paywalls?

  11. I don't understand ad blockers by tie_guy_matt · · Score: 2

    I understand why people want to block pop-up and pop-under ads. I have those blocked too (and I don't think you even need to block those since not many people use them anymore.) But I don't understand why people want to block regular banner ads. Coming up with content then hosting it on a website isn't free. If advertisers want to pay for it because they think displaying an easy to ignore banner at the bottom of the page makes me more likely to buy their crap then all the better. It is better than having to pay a subscription for the content.

    But since no one wants to pay for a subscription, and because so many people have ad blockers (or maybe advertisers have figured out how easy it is to ignore banner ads) websites are starting to go with sponsored content. I am sorry but sponsored content is at least 1000x more annoying than banner ads. Wonder why that site is singing the praises of some POS product? Well zoom into that tiny little dot at the bottom of the article to see the words "sponsored content."

    I say bring back the banner ads. It really is a pretty painless way to pay for content. I think John Oliver gave a really good summary of the problem with sponsored content AKA native advertising:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    1. Re:I don't understand ad blockers by Lord+Crc · · Score: 2

      But I don't understand why people want to block regular banner ads. Coming up with content then hosting it on a website isn't free.

      Because of drive-by downloads.

      Last year the ad network of a non-trivial Norwegian site was hacked, and they started serving malware which targeted Java. If the user hadn't updated Java fairly recently, they'd get infected without any user interaction.

      The malware was designed specifically to target the largest bank in Norway. This bank required Java for their login procedure (they no longer do, took them long enough).

      So, if the user visited this site with a vulnerable Java runtime, and then logged in to this bank later to pay some bills, the malware would send the money elsewhere.

      Since the malware was running on the local machine, it could bypass the two-factor authentication (password+token) required when transferring money.

    2. Re:I don't understand ad blockers by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 2

      If banner ads were still static, or even animated, gif images, I wouldn't block them. But many "regular banner ads" these days come with some pretty obnoxious javascript, stupid HTML5 tricks, and sometimes even flash (still). That sort of resource-hogging, battery-draining, vulnerability-inducing, malware-spreading nastiness needs to die, whether it's in a pop up/under, an interstitial, or "just" a banner.

      So yah, I block them and don't blame anyone else for doing so. I do whitelist some sites I want to support though. But any shenanigans, and back into the blackhole they go.

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  12. Re:Antitrust by gnasher719 · · Score: 2

    There have been antitrust allegations around Apple's new streaming music service. This seems to me to be just another way to prevent the competition from actually competing.

    People used to scream holy hell when MS did this kind of shit, but Apple is just as bad and in many cases much worse. I guess they saw that Microsoft got off with a little wrist slap so why not use borderline illegal (or blatantly illegal, once in a while) anticompetitive tactics.

    Here is a paragraph from the article that you quote, to put this into perspective: But Castle says he will be surprised if this goes anywhere. Apple, he notes, has a lot of competition in the streaming music space: Spotify, YouTube, GooglePlay, Amazon. "There are inquiries all the time" he says. "They ask a few questions. You send a response and that's it."

    In other words: There's lots of smoke without a fire.