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Cuba's Answer To the Internet Fits In Your Pocket and Moves By Bus

HughPickens.com writes: Susan Crawford reports on "El Paquete" (the package), Cuba's answer to the internet, an informal but extraordinarily lucrative distribution chain where anyone in Cuba who can pay can watch telenovelas, first-run Hollywood movies, and even search for a romantic partner. The so-called "weekly package," which is normally distributed from house to house contains the latest foreign films a week, shows, TV series, documentaries, games, information, music, and more. The thumb drives make their way across the island from hand to hand, by bus, and by 1957 Chevy, their contents copied and the drive handed on. "El Paquete plays to Cuban strengths and needs," writes Crawford because Cubans are great at sharing. "And being paid to be part of the thumb-drive supply chain is a respectable job in an economy that is desperately short on employment opportunities." Sunday the "weekly package" of 1 terabyte is priced at $ 10, then $2 on Monday or Tuesday and $1 for the rest of the week.

The sneakernet is still in use today in other parts of the world including Bhutan where a sneakernet distributes offline educational resources, including Kiwix and Khan Academy on a Stick to hundreds of schools and other educational institutions. Google once used a sneaknet to transport 120 TB of data from the Hubble Space Telescope. "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of magnetic tapes hurtling down the highway".

78 comments

  1. Bandwidth is high by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But the latency is a bitch.

    1. Re:Bandwidth is high by macromorgan · · Score: 1

      I hear the data overages suck too.

    2. Re:Bandwidth is high by Adriax · · Score: 2

      Roughly 13mbps download speeds with a 4 terabyte limit for $40 a month. With that limit you're hard pressed to hit overages.
      Cuba has better internet via physically shifting bits than the majority of the US.

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    3. Re:Bandwidth is high by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      Cuba has better internet via physically shifting bits than the majority of the US.

      Oh please. Show us the numbers.

    4. Re:Bandwidth is high by dave420 · · Score: 1

      According to Akamai's numbers (admittedly from 2014), the average US internet connection was 11.5mb/s. If it hasn't beaten the speedy Cuban internet infrastructure since, it's certainly comparable by this metric.

    5. Re:Bandwidth is high by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Typical "America sux" comment from yet another slashtard.

      Maybe it does, and you should just come to that realization.

    6. Re:Bandwidth is high by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "What China wants is for its people to be commercially active—building an enormous, consuming middle class—but politically passive. That may well be the thinking of the current Cuban leadership as it implicitly allows El Packete to circulate."

      Funny, this doesn't seem to apply to just China. Why else would the U.S., U.K. and other nations support so much internal spying? Those governments don't want citizens to participate, let alone question, government policies and actions. Otherwise, that makes it difficult for the government officials to satisfy their corporate sponsors', I mean "constituents' ", desires.

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  2. 1 TB thumb drive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    For poor people, the Cubans sure are rich. Even I can't afford to shell out for a 1 TB thumb drive. Must take forever to copy all that data...

    1. Re:1 TB thumb drive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      the Cubans sure are rich.

      Seriously?

      Lets say it costs 1000 dollars. How many people on sunday would have to buy your services to go positive ROI? Hell lets say it takes a month. That means you only need 25 'regulars' on sunday. Everything after that is gravy.

      It is in economic terms considered a 'fixed cost'.

    2. Re:1 TB thumb drive? by plopez · · Score: 1

      Initial start up costs would be high but once purchased could be reused. No different than buying a laptop or smart phone.

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    3. Re:1 TB thumb drive? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      The startup costs are probably spread over other uses too: If you already need to buy a laptop for work, it's going to be tempting to get into the underground data business for a little extra cash.

      I used to do it back in school - in the late nineties, when not everyone had internet. I was one of the first, and for a time made a few quid a month* flogging floppy discs with pokemon-related material on.

      I hated that fad, but it was profitable. Unfortunately I often got paid in not-very-good trading cards.

      *That's a lot of money at that age.

    4. Re:1 TB thumb drive? by timnbron · · Score: 1

      That link shows them exchanging a hard drive. It also mentions how they also distribute with thumb drives, and the pricing for it. I'm guessing the thumb drives don't include the HD video, and that the 1TB drive stays with it's owner.

      Got me too...

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  3. Someone has to say it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mass storage under user control will be deemed illegale (MPAA and RIAA docet) and then only criminals will have hard drives and thumb drives etc... Ah the rosy future....

    1. Re:Someone has to say it... by captnjohnny1618 · · Score: 2

      This is one of my big fears (kinda feared, not terribly though...) with everything moving to cloud computing. I've definitely considered a future where the ability to store data becomes completely underground and anarchistic... more from a dystopian future POV and one that users let happen more than is forced on us.

      I don't really think they could do this, but wouldn't it be terrifying if they could? It'd be like disallowing sales of reams of paper greater than fifty sheets at a time or something.

    2. Re:Someone has to say it... by MarioXXX · · Score: 1

      I share your concern, but I really don't think this will happen unless major labels are attempting to sell to this market through other means. Besides... it wouldn't be enforceable. People would just store their data by more unconventional means (by putting it on cell phones, for example). In the worst possible scenario, for the time where we live in a horrid dystopia in which the only form of storage for users is "the cloud", we still have public key cryptography. It still sucks for those with no internet though.

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    3. Re:Someone has to say it... by GigaplexNZ · · Score: 1

      They already have a levy on media such as CDs and DVDs as they are assumed to be used for copyright infringement.

  4. So... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Funny

    On a scale from 'good god, man, kill that vile pustulent mass with fire' to 'AOL user's emachine running win98' exactly how malware poxed do we expect this service to be?

    It is possible that the low value of the target nodes offers some protection; but I still have to lean toward "so much cyber-syphilis you can feel the pus ooze out when you try to plug it in".

    1. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      These people don't have internet so who cares? What information can be stolen? None. You are at a much much higher risk.

    2. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Data can be exfiltrated by usb, just write it to a hidden folder and wait for the drive to come back around to you.

    3. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do realize that computer viruses were common back in the days before most computers had internet access, right?

      If you are aware of that, then I assure you variants of those are still around and new ones continue to be written. Some people just want to watch the world burn

    4. Re:So... by Maxwell · · Score: 1

      How would infecting their own customers PC help the distributors?

    5. Re:So... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      On a scale from 'good god, man, kill that vile pustulent mass with fire' to 'AOL user's emachine running win98' exactly how malware poxed do we expect this service to be?

      That's an interesting question. I wonder if the fact that you can see the person on either side of the chain, and that the route of the package can probably be traced at each step of the way, changes whether or not malware can be spread at all.

      If you could find out exactly who sent you the data you get, and everyone you send data to knows who and where you are, does it change people's willingness to inject malware into the data?

      Think of the last virus you got that caused you hassle. If you knew that the virus came from a guy who lived two blocks over, and you knew he was sitting on his front porch right now, do you think you and he might have words?

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    6. Re:So... by hey! · · Score: 1

      Hmm. A lot of "mal" in "malware" is poor execution, not necessarily in malicious intent. This was especially true in the early days when most of the stuff was written by people just to see whether they could. This goes right back to the Morris Worm.

      We're in an age where people who are really malicious can pay to have someone do a pretty good job, in which case you won't necessarily ever know they're doing it. I'm thinking about whoever is in charge of Cuban "internal security". They must surely be aware of this phenomenon. If it were me I wouldn't try to stamp this out; I'd be looking to subvert it for surveillance purposes.

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    7. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No one bothers to write destructive viruses these days. Malware is used to extract information now. You can't extract information without a network connection. And no, no one is writing to a hidden folder on the USB and hoping to get some sort of data back. You guys worry about the wrong things.

      Someone is attacking your computer via the Internet as we speak most likely.

    8. Re:So... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      The trouble is that attribution is always tricky. If I knew that the guy who slipped me the virus did it deliberately and lived two blocks away, I'd be distinctly tempted to 'explore a spectrum of kinetic responses'. However, if I suspect that the odds are very good that he gave it to me because he got infected by somebody else, and it was pure happenstance, rather than malice, that his computer happened to be the one to be previously infected and write a malicious autorun file to the drive, or the like, then what do I do?

      He was the proximate cause of my getting the virus; but not responsible in any useful way. For a sneakernet chain of any nontrivial length, the perp would have to be pretty dumb, pretty bold, or pretty overt to stand out from the crowd of victims just passing the pox along.

    9. Re:So... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      For a sneakernet chain of any nontrivial length, the perp would have to be pretty dumb, pretty bold, or pretty overt to stand out from the crowd of victims just passing the pox along.

      Yeah, I guess, but remember, there will be the last person who had the sneakernet who did NOT get infected with the malware, and then a chain of people who are ALL infected with the malware.

      The guy in between is the perp. And since it's sneakernet, the order is known.

      But I get your point.

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  5. Old saying by istartedi · · Score: 2

    "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a truck load of CD-ROMs". That's what it was when I heard it. It goes back further

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    1. Re:Old saying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup, the JPL reference sounds right. And some of it was 5 track / paper tape too :-)

    2. Re:Old saying by Holi · · Score: 1

      "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of floppies." Is how I remember it, Granted most of you probably don't know what a station wagon is.

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    3. Re:Old saying by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      Thou shalt not underestimateth the widthe of a bande of a tome carried by a swallow.

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    4. Re:Old saying by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      Thou shalt not underestimateth the widthe of a bande of a tome carried by a swallow.

      What do you mean? An African or European swallow?

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    5. Re:Old saying by Agripa · · Score: 1

      And there is the modernized version:

      https://what-if.xkcd.com/31/

  6. the first google server was 10x4 GB by peter303 · · Score: 1

    About 18 years ago. You could copy substantial parts of the then Internet. Today that would be a medium size memory stick.

    1. Re:the first google server was 10x4 GB by gstoddart · · Score: 2

      Honestly, these days you can (literally) buy a 4 pack of 32GB memory stick in the express checkout at Wal Mart for under $10.

      The first time I saw a PC with a 1GB hard drive, we stared at it in awe ... it was about 98% free space, and nobody had any idea of what you'd put on it.

      And you can buy a 1TB hard drive for under $100 without even trying that hard.

      Now, take a teenager, and try to explain punching holes in a 360K 5.25" floppy so you could flip it and get 720K. They might not even believe you.

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    2. Re:the first google server was 10x4 GB by digsbo · · Score: 1

      Google stores cached versions of part of what they've indexed. Scraping that is actually not a bad way to do exactly what was suggested. http://webcache.googleusercont...

    3. Re: the first google server was 10x4 GB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was 180k to make 360k

    4. Re:the first google server was 10x4 GB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "You could copy substantial parts of the then Internet"

      Um, again, no. You COULD NOT copy substantial parts of the then Internet. Google didn't HAVE substantial parts of the internet on their first server. Just indexes. The size of the web content on the internet even back then was many many terabytes. Google didn't store a substantial portion on 104GB.

      It really is amazing how ignorant the average Slashdot reader is about how tech really works.

    5. Re:the first google server was 10x4 GB by psm321 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I want to know where this Walmart is that I can buy a 4-pack of 32GB sticks for $10 (seriously, if it's real I want to know...)

    6. Re:the first google server was 10x4 GB by Wraithlyn · · Score: 1

      I remember back in high school computer class (early nineties) we learned that Bell Canada's customer database was 4 TB.

      That's 4 million megabytes, this was an inconceivably enormous amount of storage back then, when 1.44MB floppies were state of the art, and hard drives (if you had one at all) ranged between 20-80 MB.

      Nowadays 4 TB is a comfortably sized 1080p movie collection.

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    7. Re:the first google server was 10x4 GB by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      1GB? When I got my first PC, it had a 40MB hard drive. I remember thinking "what would you EVER put on this to fill up that huge of a drive." Of course, nowadays, I carry a "hard drive" with hundreds of times the storage capacity, not to mention a better monitor, faster processor, and faster connection to the Internet. It fits right in my pocket when I'm not using it to browse the web, make calls, play games, etc. It makes me wonder what my kids will wistfully think about the tech they use nowadays when they are my age. "I can't believe we once had to actually TOUCH the screen on a device in our hands to make things happen. Cranial-ocular implanted computers are SO much better!"

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    8. Re: the first google server was 10x4 GB by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 1

      On my TRS-80 Model I it was 85K to make 170K.

    9. Re: the first google server was 10x4 GB by aevan · · Score: 2

      Depends on disk density. I know my 1541 would have 664 blocks free per side (the 180k one), but they eventually come out with up to 1MB in the 5 1/4 size.

    10. Re:the first google server was 10x4 GB by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Honestly, I might be a little off on the count .. a few gig here, a few gig there ...

      but my wife works in storage, and I once paid $700 for 16MB of RAM ... and the two of us were in the express lane at WalMart absolutely gobsmacked that what used to cost huge amounts of money for storage was suddenly in a blister pack of 4 brightly colored units for under $10.

      I can't say for sure if it was 4x8, 4x16, or 4x32 .. but I was just standing there going "you have to be f-ing kidding me".

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    11. Re:the first google server was 10x4 GB by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      If it was less than $10 it might not have even been 4x8GB.
      According to their website, you're lucky to get ONE drive for less than $10.

      Buying flash drives in retail stores is like buying USB and HDMI cables in stores -- an exercise only to be done when you really HAVE to have it now. For everything else, there's NewEgg and Monoprice.

    12. Re:the first google server was 10x4 GB by Agripa · · Score: 1

      The first time I saw a PC with a 1GB hard drive, we stared at it in awe ... it was about 98% free space, and nobody had any idea of what you'd put on it.

      I remember thinking the same thing about the first 5MB hard drive I encountered in an IBM PC.

      When data CDs first came out there were questions about what kind of game could fill one up. That was answered in short order because the second game to be released on CD media, one of the early Kings Quest games, took 2 CDs leading to the "King's Quest XXXXVIII - Quest for Disk Space" joke.

    13. Re:the first google server was 10x4 GB by ncc74656 · · Score: 1

      Now, take a teenager, and try to explain punching holes in a 360K 5.25" floppy so you could flip it and get 720K.

      360K is already double-sided. A more typical use case was to double capacity from 140K to 280K when used with an Apple II.

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  7. This is an answer...? by geekmux · · Score: 2

    This is Cuba's answer to the internet?

    This is like the US Military calling the Nerf toy company to answer ISIS.

    1. Re:This is an answer...? by TWX · · Score: 1

      We can make a fortune if we can dig-up that old Fidonet code!

      Imagine, being able to exchange e-mail with someone in three or four days!

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    2. Re:This is an answer...? by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      None of the immediacy, but none of the ads either.

      In terms of not treating the internet as a life and death thing requiring you access the latest thing on NetFlix NOW ... meh.

      As someone who still watches movies on little plastic discs through a player and TV which aren't connected to the intertubes, I say never underestimate the value of offline data.

      And in a country where the average person is really poor and trying to eke out enough to eat, I'd say good for them.

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    3. Re:This is an answer...? by mlts · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I wouldn't call it the "answer" to the Internet... but in a country like Cuba which can skip generations of technology (i.e. no worry about having a POTS infrastructure), it can provide reasonable services.

      I consider this more of a Redbox-like service, except instead of DVDs, one is copying movies to a SD card to be consumed, which could be easily made into a kiosk. If the kiosk supported formatting the SD card, it would be a reasonably malware-free way to do that.

      I am surprised this isn't done more often. Not just movies, but things like operating system ISOs, cumulative patch updates, applications, larger games like MMOs, and other items, this might be a useful future.

      I can see Redbox making some money from a similar thing. Select movies, plug in a USB, SD, or MicroSD device, have it copy them, and go from there. Since there are already thorough DRM systems in place, the movies would expire after a time, and can easily be renewed via the Web (passing keys and licensing info is a lot less than the actual MPEG data). Bonus points where one obtain ISO images of an OS and all the latest patches.

    4. Re:This is an answer...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > If the kiosk supported formatting the SD card, it would be a reasonably malware-free way to do that.

      You trust the kiosk? Format, infect, copy.

  8. This is interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I might be going to Cuba for an Esperanto conference, and was wondering what to take for the hosts that would be appreciated. You can't take laptops (registered by customs on entry, or pay a huge tariff on exit if you can't produce it). So I thought that what might be appreciated is thumb drives full of data- in this case, a copy of the Esperanto wikipedia, ebooks, music, videos, etc, plus of course the same in Spanish.

  9. Who is letting it happen? by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The article wonders why the Cuban government is letting this happen and then goes on to say it makes $5 million a month and no one knows who is running it. At $5 mill a month a lot of government types can make a nice tidy profit while still controlling and observing what goes int El Paquete. As long as nothing that think will cause problems is in it why not run a lucrative media empire? One that is protected from competition, because well, you and your police can easily take care of the competition; besides if you are already bringing it in their is less incentive for someone else to do so and that saves you the expense of tracking them down. If things go south you can always leave and live off your earnings. Just because you are a good socialist doesn't mean you don't appreciate what capitalism can offer you.

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  10. latency not bandwidth - cute quote but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it just me or is the quote at the end trying to refer to how fast the station wagon is moving...?
      "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of magnetic tapes hurtling down the highway" -- bandwidth is the number of lanes on the highway. Latency is how long it takes to get there.

    1. Re:latency not bandwidth - cute quote but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's just you. Bandwidth is unit data rate per unit time. A station wagon full of tapes is the data unit, the speed of the wagon determines the data rate per time.

      The number of lanes is irrelevant, unless you want to run multiple wagons simultaneously, and if you try to squeeze in too many you're going to slow them down.

    2. Re:latency not bandwidth - cute quote but... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      The number of lanes is irrelevant, unless you want to run multiple wagons simultaneously, and if you try to squeeze in too many you're going to slow them down.

      ... or if your station wagon gets stuck behind a slow-moving white Ford Bronco.

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    3. Re:latency not bandwidth - cute quote but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it just me

      Assume, when you find yourself asking this, that the answer is yes.

  11. just as interesting as it was 7 years ago by circletimessquare · · Score: 2

    when i posted this:

    http://yro.slashdot.org/story/...

    but this quaint sneakernet will probably rapidly disappear now

    i can't see cuba resisting the obvious benefits of freer internet access any longer. they're paranoid control freaks, but they're not that stupid (i hope)

    the political ramifications are obvious too, but cuba's political model died last century

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    1. Re:just as interesting as it was 7 years ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is some old school 'dup story' digging there :)

  12. We need to update RFC1149 by thedavidcathey · · Score: 1

    And replace 'Avian' with 'Cuban'

    1. Re:We need to update RFC1149 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was thinking about making one similar to 2549 with ascii Cubans. QoS can be overlooked on some races... but Cuban starts with really low stats in Q..

      Hmm. Maybe I need to reroll irl. :|

      heh, captcha was 'dispel'. if it were only that easy.

  13. Big Bad Cuba by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3

    Think of this Cuban sneakernet. Now remember the fact that for the past half-century, the United States has seen Cuba as the biggest threat in the Western Hemisphere. So much a threat that you couldn't even allow Americans to visit there or Cubans to come here. Hell, you couldn't even legally buy a Cuban cigar in the US, so great was the threat from this tiny island nation. And even after 60 years of embargo and sanctions a president says, "What is all this bullshit with Cuba? You think maybe we could knock it off now?" we STILL have right-wing legislators who shit on the floor in fury at the thought of normal relations with them.

    It's ironic that the US keeps it's off-shore black site prison in Cuba, so it can hold Afghani cabdrivers who nobody can remember why we picked him up back in 2004. But god forbid we should actually have a conversation with their government, because OMFG COMMUNISM!

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    1. Re:Big Bad Cuba by plopez · · Score: 1

      A prison where the prisoners get better health care than many Americans.

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    2. Re:Big Bad Cuba by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      A prison where the prisoners get better health care than many Americans.

      So you're prepared to believe whatever the government tells you about how good Guantanamo prisoners have it?

      And, considering how bad our health care system has been for so long now, I bet there are lots of prisons where the inmates get better health care than many Americans.

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    3. Re:Big Bad Cuba by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Gitmo is US run. GP was talking about Cuba as a whole - Havana, Santiago de Cuba, et al

    4. Re:Big Bad Cuba by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cuba!! First class health care! Unbelievable top quality literacy and education! Tons of doctors! That explains why people are often risking their lives to raft across the ocean over to the inferior USA! This also explains why the Cuban Army will shoot you if they catch you doing this - they just think Cuba is SO AWESOME that nobody would want to leave!

      You fucking moron.

    5. Re:Big Bad Cuba by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Gitmo is US run. GP was talking about Cuba as a whole - Havana, Santiago de Cuba, et al

      Got it. Thanks for straightening me out.

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  14. USENET on tape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The 1970s called, they want their sneakers back.

    Oh wait, this is Cuba, land of the 1950s US automobiles. Nevermind.

  15. The Swedes must love this shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because Cuba's beaches are full of them. Too bad the Cuban's can't enjoy their own beaches.

  16. We might start doing this in USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The big ISPs are using data caps to try to kill streaming and encourage downloading+sneakernet.

    It makes sense. Imagine you are CEO a media company who is also in the ISP business. Since you're a media company, your primary objective is to lose money and maliciously harm all your investors, because you hate them and you hate yourself. At first you're heartened to see that your media subscriptions are falling, but you look at the books and the overall revenue isn't falling at all. A little forensic accounting and it hits you: you still have end-consumers, but they're just more indirect than they used to be. They're paying streaming services (like Netflix) who in turns pays you for the content. The fucking revenue is still coming in, so it's making you look as though you're trying to run a business instead of destroy an old company. This won't do.

    But you're an ISP too, so the idea hits you: data caps.

    If a customer watches an average of 90 hours of TV per month but their caps only allows for 60 hours, then you have a way to influence the customers' behavior. The cap kills streaming, but it won't have nearly as much impact on people playing local files, even though downloading consumes just as much bandwidth (actually more, since the bitrate/quality is often much higher).

    A house might have a 60-hours-of-video cap, but a group (e.g. neighborhood) of ten houses has a 600 hour cap, so a large sneakernet-integrated society essentially has no cap, provided they learn to work together. One person downloads a 5GB file: that's only 5GB, whereas if ten people streamed the lower-quality 3GB version, that's be 30GB. So your opponent (the enemy who keeps giving you that unwanted revenue) is going to download.

    The second step of the plan is that you make sure that the file they're downloading, isn't for sale at any price. And that happens to be the case. Pirates have the very best product on the market (nice convenient files that Just Work and can be trivially moved around and managed, and yes, of course that also includes sharing) whereas you can't really do that with streams, DRMed optical discs, etc.

    The upshot is that the customers have no way to get what they want while also paying you. So they stop paying you. Victory!

    So, to recap: 1) don't sell files comparable to what pirates offer, or else people might buy them. Make sure that the ideal customer-oriented solution results in 0 revenue for you. 2) Data caps to encourage sneakernet sharing.

    1. Re:We might start doing this in USA by Falos · · Score: 1

      Cutting down streaming might look like another round of **AA suicide, but in more practical context this streaming hype is about as inefficient as you can get. It's like having a bitmap with zero compression. Your point stands, they're gimping the paying customers (again), but I can't mourn streaming.

      People who download local copies of a file are obviously at an advantage, but that's not big picture thinking. Making things a little more node-based or swarmy might help. Blizzard uses p2p to supplement distro of their bloaty data, somewhat. A neighborhood node being executed by sheer human coordination just won't come together, unless extremely desperate conditions force them to cobble together a one-way no-control max-latency imitation.

  17. reminds me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    reminds me of the high energy physics group at my university shipping a u-haul of 8mm tapes (2.2 gig per) of supercollider data from Fermilab to Mississippi back in ~90. the bandwidth of I-55 was unbelievable.

  18. Custom by DrYak · · Score: 1

    Data can be exfiltrated by usb, just write it to a hidden folder and wait for the drive to come back around to you.

    Which is specifically NOT the modus operandi of the majority of viruses aroudn (except a few like Stuxnet which had very specific targets).
    Thus this would require writing custom code to address this very specific and unusual configuration.
    So who's going to throw the ressources at writing a completely new virus specifically targetting the few movie sharing sneakernets around the world ?

    As the poster above has noted: nobody. Nobody gives a fuck about Cuba and other such sneakernets.

    There's no point in getting these machine or the data on them.
    It's not worth blackmailing them. The cuban will probably earn even less money than the chinese guy who would have written the USB-transmitted ransom ware.
    It's not worth trying to own the machine: you can't use it for DDOS nor Spam nor some alt-coin mining.
    Whatever data they have probably concerns goods and money that are probably valued to 0.0001$ on your local market...

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  19. Sneakernet by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 1

    It is called "sneakERnet" because you walk the data over from one place to the other using your sneakers / tennis shoes / athletic footwear (not everyone knows what a sneaker is...like a grinder/sub/hoagie/po'boy).