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Canadian Government Servers Compromised By Anonymous

An anonymous reader writes: There was a cyber-attack on Wednesday by the activist group Anonymous, aimed at the Canadian government. Public Safety Minister Steven Blaney says no personal information was compromised. Anonymous claimed responsibility for the attack in protest against the recent passing of the government's anti-terror Bill C-51. "Today, Anons around the world took a stand for your rights. Do we trade our privacy for security? Do we bow down and obey what has become totalitarian rule? Don't fool [yourselves]. The Harper regime does not listen to the people, it acts only in [its] best interests." the group wrote in an online post.

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  1. Yeah, fuck Harper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I for one, welcome our Anonymous Canadian Overlords.

    1. Re: Yeah, fuck Harper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'll see your 2 fuck harpers and raise you another 4. Give em hell anons!

    2. Re:Yeah, fuck Harper by StrangeBrew · · Score: 1, Informative

      Oh give it up for crying out loud. Regardless whether you're talking about the Cons majority Federally, or the NDP's new majority in Alberta I'm sick and tired of hearing whiners bitch and complain about how the combined power of all the other voters should trump the number of elected representatives who garnered the most votes in their ridings. I guarantee you that when your particular party of choice gets in power you'll be rolling your eyes at anyone who uses the same argument. You also act like past regimes, Trudeau (PET) and Chretien, weren't just as much dictatorial as Harper's. Go ahead and vote for your favorite future dictator next election, but step back a bit and be objective about what you're going to get.

    3. Re:Yeah, fuck Harper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The difference is that previous regimes didn't pass quite as many omnibus budgets with blatant anti-Canadian clauses throughout, nor try to establish a secret fucking police in a formerly somewhat free* country.
       
      * no free speech, an obvious exception

    4. Re:Yeah, fuck Harper by tbannist · · Score: 3, Informative

      Oh give it up for crying out loud. Regardless whether you're talking about the Cons majority Federally, or the NDP's new majority in Alberta I'm sick and tired of hearing whiners bitch and complain about how the combined power of all the other voters should trump the number of elected representatives who garnered the most votes in their ridings.

      Can you explain why you think the government should not be representative of the combined will of the voters?

      I guarantee you that when your particular party of choice gets in power you'll be rolling your eyes at anyone who uses the same argument.

      Potentially, but that doesn't mean that's actually the proper reaction.

      You also act like past regimes, Trudeau (PET) and Chretien, weren't just as much dictatorial as Harper's.

      I'm am genuinely under the impression that they weren't, feel free to prove me wrong, but all of the credible commentary and discussion I've heard from experts on the topic indicate that Harper is running the most dictatorial and partisan government in living memory. Additionally, Stephen Harper is infamous for his micro-managing, his stage managed appearances and his defiance of the experts on virtually every topic. It's why this conservative government is just 2 for 45 on court challenges to their laws and has picked fights with just about every group that's not a conservative lobby group (and some that are).

      Personally, I think you're using a false generalisation to dismiss valid criticism of Harper.

      Go ahead and vote for your favorite future dictator next election, but step back a bit and be objective about what you're going to get.

      It seems like the problem with people like you is that you can't even imagine there being anything between two polarizing options. Either someone acts like a dictator or they do not. Is there no room for someone who only acts like a dictator some of the time? And shouldn't we prefer a politician who, when elected, spends as little time acting the dictator as possible?

      I had high hopes for Harper when he was chosen to lead the Alliance party back in the day, but he's disappointed me at every turn since then.

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    5. Re:Yeah, fuck Harper by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      Agreed.

      So say all Canadians.

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    6. Re:Yeah, fuck Harper by Straif · · Score: 1

      The Canadian system is generally designed to be a dictatorship with rotating dictators every few years with the party in charge, especially if it's a majority, having almost completely unfettered control over legislation. No matter whose in charge it always looks bad. It's one of the reason we need real Senate reform to create a better check and balance system.

      I do know Chretien used the ability to declare a vote a matter of confidence several times to force his own party to vote his way. The tainted blood scandal being one that sticks out most in my mind. Liberal MPs were literally crying in the House of Commons while voting to approve legislation Chretien wanted passed but they disagreed with because he classified it as a confidence vote and if they voted their conscience it would have meant a general election would have to be called.

      I'm also unaware of any instances of Harper physically assaulting citizens because he didn't feel like listening to his security detail and tried pushing his way through a crowd.

      Overall, without any real oversight or secondary validation it's much too easy for the current PM to dismiss all opposing viewpoints and tailor make legislation only addressing their or their parties concerns. This tends to lead to some rather bad legislation (as can be see in some of the recently passed bills). Oddly enough it is the Harper government that has made motions of moving towards an elected Senate option which would help reign in the PMs power. He has already stated that if a Province elects a Senator when a seat becomes open he will adhere to their wishes (and already has in Alberta's case) and has at times made motions towards enshrining that into federal law. Of course, reforming the Senate in any meaningful way is one of the few limits on the PM authority since it would require agreement by the various Premieres.

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    7. Re:Yeah, fuck Harper by StrangeBrew · · Score: 1

      Thank you. There's also a declaration of martial law by PET. Adscam and a gun registry that was shoved down our throats by the Liberals and their pet Police Chiefs despite the huge opposition by the cops on the beat who knew it wouldn't work. Though I'm opposed to the comparisons to the NAZI's bringing in a gun registry as a first step towards confiscating all guns from law abiding folk, isn't it easy to see how any side that is in power is going to do something that can be compared to past evils? There was Mr. Dithers whose family company was moved off-shore to evade Canadian taxes....

      I never said I was pro-Harper, I've voted both left and right of the spectrum, always trying to pick the option that will do the least damage to the Country/Province/City. I am truly against omnibus legislation and wish it could be removed completely as an option.

      I also think that a party that isn't polarizing rarely succeeds. The number of people who are truly objective on issues is very small. Polarization drives votes.

      I wish there was a better option than Trudeau jr. this next election. With that said, I'll still scrutinize the party platforms pre-election and continue to pick the least destructive party.

  2. Conterproductive, perhaps? by jandersen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So, Anonymous protest against a law that targets hackers by ... hacking? And this will demonstrate to the government and the public that this law is not warranted? Please explain the logic in this, because I can't spot it.

    1. Re: Conterproductive, perhaps? by Xicor · · Score: 1

      Same logic as protesting the taking of guns by revolution.

    2. Re:Conterproductive, perhaps? by phayes · · Score: 1

      At least we know what /. articles we'll be seeing in a few months: Anonymous hacker XYZ convicted to Y years of prison for participating in last year's attack of Canadian computer infrastructure...

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    3. Re:Conterproductive, perhaps? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 4, Funny

      Anonymous hacker XYZ convicted to Y years

      So is his middle name a number, or is he going to get sentenced to Jeff years in prison?

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    4. Re:Conterproductive, perhaps? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I am going to change my middle name to "-10" to make myself safe from this.

    5. Re:Conterproductive, perhaps? by phishybongwaters · · Score: 1

      I guess it's the same way that hacking the PSN and handing out users credit card details was protecting us from the evil sony corp who charges too much for software...... The short answer is: there used to be a loosely affiliated group of like minded crackers and coders who congregated in the dark corners of the intertubes, IRC and other seldom traveled paths. They became hacktivists. Then they began a government operation to provide the pretext to enact the laws the "anon" group stands against. Problem, reaction, solution. I hate that AJ infowhore blowhard, but he's right about this.

    6. Re:Conterproductive, perhaps? by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, the law isn't about hacking. Bill C-51 gives the government power to share information about citizens between departments. It also authorizes heavier surveillance, stronger powers of arrest, while not adding any accountability.

      http://www.michaelgeist.ca/201...

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    7. Re:Conterproductive, perhaps? by __aabppq7737 · · Score: 1

      try using logic to convince someone to use logic

    8. Re:Conterproductive, perhaps? by phayes · · Score: 1

      No middle name, it's just a letter & he'll be sentenced to the base 10 ascii code representation of that letter -- Uppercase if he's lucky...

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    9. Re:Conterproductive, perhaps? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      It demonstrates to the government that their bullshit laws are just that: Bullshit. They accomplish nothing save taking away essential liberties.

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    10. Re:Conterproductive, perhaps? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      With a sentence that is so out of touch with reality and the associated "crime" that it boggles the mind, based on evidence not worth the name.

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    11. Re: Conterproductive, perhaps? by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      Not really.. gun ownership is a constitutional right. Hacking is not.

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    12. Re:Conterproductive, perhaps? by phayes · · Score: 1

      Yeah, well for some people, even video footage of people discussing who and how to DDOS / deface is insufficient evidence. Not because evidence is insufficient to convince a jury to convict but because they are ideologically opposed to any limits to their imagined "electronic freedom".

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  3. Theo, where have you been by udippel · · Score: 1

    when you were needed most by your country?

  4. Canadian Gay Detector by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_machine_%28homosexuality_test%29

    Fruit machine (homosexuality test)
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "Fruit machine" is a term for a device developed in Canada that was supposed to be able to identify homosexual people, or (offensively and derogatorily) "fruits". The subjects were made to view pornography, and the device measured the diameter of the pupils of the eyes (pupillary response test), perspiration, and pulse for a supposed erotic response.

    The "fruit machine" was employed in Canada in the 1950s and 1960s during a campaign to eliminate all homosexuals from the civil service, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), and the military. A substantial number of workers did lose their jobs. Although funding for the "fruit machine" project was cut off in the late 1960s, the investigations continued, and the RCMP collected files on over 9,000 "suspected" homosexuals.[1]

    The chair was like one from a dentist's office. It had a pulley with a camera going towards the pupils. There was a black box in front of it that showed pictures. The pictures ranged from the mundane to sexually explicit photos of men and women. It had previously been determined that the pupils would dilate in relation to the amount of interest in the picture. This was called the pupillary response test.[2]

    People were told the machine was to rate stress. After knowledge of its real purpose became widespread, few people volunteered for it.

    Contents

            1 Faulty test parameters
            2 In popular culture
            3 See also
            4 Notes
            5 Sources
            6 External links

    Faulty test parameters

    There were many problems with the "fruit machine." To begin with, the pupillary response test was based on fatally flawed assumptions: that visual stimuli would give an involuntary reaction able to be measured scientifically; that homosexuals and heterosexuals would respond to these stimuli differently; and that there were only two types of sexuality.[3] There was also the problem of physiology. The researchers failed to take into account the varying sizes of the pupils and the differing distances between the eyes.[2][3] Other problems that existed were that the pictures of the subjects' eyes had to be taken from an angle, as the camera would have blocked the subjects' view of the photographs if it were placed directly in front. Also, the amount of light coming from the photographs changed with each slide, causing the subjects' pupils to dilate in a way that was unrelated to their interest in the picture. Finally, the dilation of the pupils was also exceedingly difficult to measure, as the change was often smaller than one millimeter.[2]

    The idea was based on a study done by an American university professor, which measured the sizes of the subjects' pupils as they walked through the aisles of grocery stores.[2]
    In popular culture

    Brian Drader's 1998 play The Fruit Machine juxtaposes the fruit machine project with a parallel storyline about contemporary homophobia.[4]

    1. Re:Canadian Gay Detector by Code+Herder · · Score: 1

      So wait, the Blade Runner intro was based on a Canadian gaydar? Canada, we gave the world the canadarm and the fruit machine.

  5. Thanks but no thanks by drrilll · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If I ever need Anonymous to take a stand for my rights, I will shine a Guy Fawkes mask onto the clouds. Until then I am more than capable of managing what I do and do not want to stand for. Do not presume to speak or act for me.

    1. Re:Thanks but no thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Whoops - they had an opinion - they forgot to check with you first to see whether it matches yours. Because you apparently think that your opinion trumps their right to have a different one. But the truth of the matter is, while you're certainly entitled to have your own opinion and stand for whatever you like, no one else really gives a shit but you.

    2. Re:Thanks but no thanks by AgentSmith · · Score: 1

      Hi there, Morbo! How's the family?

  6. SSC couldn't help? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You mean the countless layers of ineffective bureaucracy at Shared Services Cana-duh can't help?!

  7. Hey Anon, you've been outclassed by davide+marney · · Score: 1

    The days when a security breach is big news is so over. When the US Government can lose control over the employment records of every, single employee, this kind of playing around by Anonymous is just kind of sad.

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  8. Shit title by Mashiki · · Score: 5, Informative

    Shit article, shit title. It was a DDOS, and in terms of impact pretty much nothing happened. IP based stuff went into failover, and there wasn't even a pick up in phone call-ins apparently.

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  9. ya but ...? by beefoot · · Score: 1

    It does nothing to stop the C51. The right thing to do is to donate to the opposition party that would against C51. They need the money the could get to deliver their messages to the voters. Alternatively, compromise the political party in power, expose their scandals, etc. This is no more than public stunt that does nothing to anyone other than earning a few headline news article, at best.

    1. Re:ya but ...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      > It does nothing to stop the C51.

      It got (some) people *talking* about C51. Without hurting anyone, or doing any actual damage. (Some civil servants - including me - couldn't surf the web for an hour, and Canadian citizens couldn't look at the oh-so-exciting web sites provided by the government.)

      I agree that supporting parties opposed to the bill is a good idea, but I don't think that an awareness-raising publicity stunt was that bad an idea either. C51 has already passed, we are beyond stopping it; the only hope now would be to repeal / reverse it. That would require a lot of political will, which in turn would require a lot of public awareness - which is presently lacking. As an awareness-raising exercise, I'd say this was a success. C51 is mentioned prominently in the article in the Ottawa Citizen about the incident:

      http://ottawacitizen.com/news/politics/federal-computer-servers-cyber-attacked-clement

  10. Troubling by mark-t · · Score: 3, Informative

    Bill C51 is particularly troubling... it has already been passed into law and as such may prove very difficult to get rid of by any later prime minister that disagrees with it without a majority government.

    The most particularly troubling aspect of C51 is that it empowers CSIS to break almost *ANY* law... short of inflicting enduring physical bodily harm on someone, or acts of sexual violation... in the course of disrupting anything that they believe, rightly or wrongly, to be a terrorist threat, including violating even civil and constitutional rights. That means they can imprison people because of their race, or simply because of what that person believes, for example, even if that person has done absolutely nothing wrong. if CSIS has any reason at all to suspect that such factors link them to committing any act that corresponds with a terrorist threat, a phrase that by itself is so loosely defined (in fact, it isn't even defined in this law... in fact, it appears almost intentional to have left it undefined so that CSIS could apply the term as they saw fit), that even picketing or almost any other form of entirely peaceful assembly that might happens to disrupt some activity that the government is wanting to push forward could qualify.

    It's interesting to consider, however, that because CSIS also outlaws the the distribution of terrorist propoganda, if, for example, Westboro Baptist Church were Canadian, then by Bill-C51, the government would have to ban the Christian bible, since WBC uses that text to justify many of their insane acts, and the bill explicitly outlaws the dissemination of literature that encourages acts of terrorism.

    1. Re:Troubling by Gramie2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Tom Mulcair was on the CBC yesterday, and I have to say (as a non-committed voter who has voted NDP, Green, Liberal and --in a sad episode of my youth-- some Family somethingorother anti-abortion party) that I like the things he says and the way he says them. No hype, no theatrics, just intelligent arguments and thoughtful principals.

      With Harper, we will get a precipitous slide into government by the rich, for the rich; with Trudeau, a gentler slope but the same trajectory. I truly believe that Mulcair will try to roll back some of the encroachments on individual rights and liberty, and actually start us headed towards environmental responsibility.

      Is it possible that Mulcair will fall victim to the same hubris and vested interests as other politicians? Of course. But why not start out with at least a little hope for positive change?

    2. Re:Troubling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Better we pay a bit more tax and stop destroying our environment, our scientific establishments, historical data for fisheries and forests, ... I'm sorry what were we talking about?

      Harper's evils are actually evil. Mulcair might misstep, but it'd be in a very Canadian, "let's get things right and face facts" way. Trudeau is a wild card all right.

    3. Re:Troubling by Livius · · Score: 1

      Mulclair also stands for selling out *workers* rights - of all things - just to suck up to the separatists.

    4. Re:Troubling by Livius · · Score: 1

      The right groups -- fundamentalist Christians, separatists, money launderers, etc. - will be somewhat less targeted.

  11. Re:All establishments act in their own interest by Gramie2 · · Score: 1

    A small, ineffective, mostly powerless part

    What? The NDP is the official opposition! And not doing all that badly in the polls! Tom Mulcair has pledged to bring in proportional representation if elected, if you want something that "actually represents Canadians".

    I'm not affiliated with the NDP in any way (I've voted for them once out of about five elections), but Mulcair has impressed me.

  12. Re:Yeah, by Layzej · · Score: 1

    This attack will be used as justification for increased security at the expense of privacy.

  13. Re:All establishments act in their own interest by Coolfish · · Score: 1

    A small, ineffective, mostly powerless part

    What? The NDP is the official opposition! And not doing all that badly in the polls! Tom Mulcair has pledged to bring in proportional representation if elected, if you want something that "actually represents Canadians".

    I'm not affiliated with the NDP in any way (I've voted for them once out of about five elections), but Mulcair has impressed me.

    So what? What did the official opposition do to stop this bill? What could they have done? Nothing, and nada. Small, almost completely ineffective in getting anything done. My point stands.

    I doubt that proportional representation will have much impact. Certainly it's a less awful idea than First Past the Post (FTFP), but the fact that we are still dealing with politicians remains.

    When you go vote - do you read up on the position of the person you're going to elect? Does that matter, if they can go and change it right after they get into office? What exactly are you going to do to ensure that your politician represents the people? If this system actually worked, shouldn't we have better results already? Or do you think what we have now is really the best that we can do?

  14. Re:All establishments act in their own interest by Coolfish · · Score: 1

    I know you're being sarcastic, but whether it's Trudeau or the other guy or someone new entirely, odds of them changing anything to actually *fix* this broken system is pretty much nil. They don't want to actually fix what's wrong with the system - they've worked out how it gets them what they want, be it money or power, and that's enough.

  15. Some facts about denial-of-service (DoS) attacks by nickweller · · Score: 2

    "What is a denial-of-service attack? Most commonly, these events occur when mischief makers or hackers simply flood a target computer with more traffic than it was built to handle. ref
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    Please stop using the word cyber on a tech site ..