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Video Games Can Improve Terror Attack Preparedness, Even If You Don't Play Them

vrml writes: A study just published by the Computers in Human Behavior journal explores the potential of video games as terror attack preparedness materials for the general public. In the video game that participants tried (screenshots can be seen in the paper), players started a normal day going to a train station and performing actions such as purchasing a ticket and finding a train. Then, they suddenly found themselves in a bombing scenario that they had to survive. In addition to showing that playing the game greatly increased players' knowledge about preparedness, the study also considered a second group of participants who did not play the game but watched instead a video of the game play. Results indicate that passively watching someone else play the game is as effective as actively playing the game in terms of learning preparedness knowledge. However, they also point out a significant difference concerning psychological effects on threat appraisal: general perception of personal vulnerability to terror attacks and their severity increased more in those who actively played the game rather than those who passively watched game play.

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  1. Counter-terrorists win! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Time to fire up my copy of Counterstrike.

    1. Re:Counter-terrorists win! by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

      My greatest victory in Counterstrike when I took down the top player at my job by running towards him with only one health point and a knife. He managed to miss me with his desert eagle at close range. I gutted him and won that round with 20 coworkers cheering.

  2. Hmmmm .... by gstoddart · · Score: 1

    Duck, keep low, move away from the loud noises and smoke, hide behind shit, don't get trampled, use someone's kids as human shields.

    Everybody knows this. ;-)

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    1. Re:Hmmmm .... by Adriax · · Score: 4, Funny

      Unless you have a cameraphone. Then stand straight up and film as much as you can because it's gonna make you internet famous!

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    2. Re:Hmmmm .... by gstoddart · · Score: 2

      Those people should be used as both a natural shield, and a reference point for whichever direction you need to keep moving -- away from the direction the cameras are facing, but in a quartering direction to keep you out of the direct line of threat.

      Choose an exit path which keeps them between you and the danger, keep your head below theirs, and feel free to knock over those watching through their cell phone, because they'll never be able to identify you.

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    3. Re:Hmmmm .... by danbert8 · · Score: 2

      I say if they hold their phones vertically, we disable them so they can be removed from the population.

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    4. Re:Hmmmm .... by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Not until you are clear from danger. In the event of an actual emergency, these people are your last line of defense.

      In the case of a real emergency, you don't have time to stop to disable them just for sport.

      Once you're clear and can do so from good cover, go ahead. ;-)

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    5. Re:Hmmmm .... by wardrich86 · · Score: 1

      wooooorrrrrrrrllllllld staaaaarrrrr

  3. Re:Happy Thursday from The Golden Girls! by Adriax · · Score: 2

    I wonder, is this effect as strong with other forms of video media?

    Did watching golden girls as a child heighten AC's awareness of sex crazed octogenarians and lead to his obvious fetish?

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  4. Is this important? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The risk of dying in a terrorist attack is infinitesimal. So should we be expending resources to make people more prepared for something that is almost certainly not going to happen to them? Wouldn't it make more sense to use video games to condition people to eat better food, exercise, and look both ways before crossing a road?

    1. Re:Is this important? by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "general perception of personal vulnerability to terror attacks increased"

      Precisely what we don't want. The risk of getting out of bed in the morning is higher than being bombed by terrorists.

      This is just another ploy by people who get rich from increasing public paranoia (ie. governments).

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    2. Re:Is this important? by avandesande · · Score: 2

      A video about click-bait awareness would be great for the /. editors

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    3. Re:Is this important? by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The risk of dying in a terrorist attack is infinitesimal. So should we be expending resources to make people more prepared for something that is almost certainly not going to happen to them?

      But ... but ... people are so much more compliant when they're perpetually afraid.

      Keep them constantly afraid, and you can convince them to agree to damned near anything.

      Just look at how many people are willingly giving up civil liberties on the assumption that, as long as we're fighting the terrorists, it must be OK.

      Oh, did you mean a valid reason? Sorry.

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    4. Re:Is this important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But the point is to keep people in a state of fear since that makes them easier to control.

      The point isn't to have a world full of people that eat better food, exercise, and look both ways before crossing a road.

    5. Re:Is this important? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      They already implemented the strategies in that video. This is why we get so much click-bait.

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    6. Re: Is this important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there a simulation out there on what to do if you are jumped by a street thug? Happened to me a couple of times.

    7. Re:Is this important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As soon as you can make any of those activities exciting, sure.

      I'm sure terrorist attacks are terrifying (hell that is the root of the word) but when you aren't actually at risk it can be pretty exciting, and the market proves people will voluntarily play that. Outside of some abstracted puzzle game that uses something like Nutrition as a flimsy pretext (think Spacechem with biology instead of chemistry) I can't see anyone lining up for a midnight release of Call of Duty: Jaywalking and nobody will get your message.

      If you can't make the tedious less tedious, nobody will want to pretend to do it.

    8. Re:Is this important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This also reminds me of the 'stop drop and roll' they drilled into our heads when I was in elementary.

      Really made you think spontaneous combustion was like, you know, a common thing.

    9. Re:Is this important? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      You try to get government funding for that, good luck!

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    10. Re:Is this important? by TheCarp · · Score: 2

      Which is why this research is so vital, because terrorists will not take it upon themselves to massively increase our perception of the likely hood of attack, so we need to do it ourselves, and this is the research we need to determine how best to manipulate ourselves into a proper state of terror, to advance political goals and keep the funding flowing.

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    11. Re:Is this important? by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      Of course it's important. Jack Thompson (of anti-Grand Theft Auto fame) is perpetually trying to prevent people from playing video games. As it's now known that playing video games improves your preparedness for terror attacks, logically, it means that preventing people from playing video games reduces their preparedness for terror attacks. This is what Jack Thompson is doing, therefore, he's supporting terrorists.

      Throw the fucker in Guantanamo.

      (Of course, I'm kidding, but this is the only possible positive I could really get out of this. Otherwise, my sibling posters are right. It's just "Oooohh...be scaaarrred! Evil Al Shabib is coming to get you!!!!"

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    12. Re:Is this important? by Simulant · · Score: 1

      I'm conditioned to open every chest and box I come across...

    13. Re:Is this important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do that when anyone in power doesn't want that to happen at all?
      People in power want followers, not thinkers.

      This is why most education systems are deliberately shit when it is provably possible to teach and improve intelligence, alongside knowledge.
      The lowest amount of effort to keep things above an artificial threshold is acceptable enough, be it road safety, mortality rates in hospitals and so on.

      And to be perfectly honest with you, it is a sad necessity.
      The human race isn't ready for even 20% high intelligence rates, never mind nearly 100%.
      Maybe when we are post-scarcity would it be a feasible and intelligent venture, but not now, it would make billions of people entitled and severely emotionally compromised due to life sucking so damn hard. There is a reason so many (even reasonably) intelligent people off themselves or are popping the anti-depressants.
      Damn shame so it is. I'm just lucky I'm am emotionally nullity.

    14. Re:Is this important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BOTH ways before crossing a road? Lucky if they look in the main direction of traffic 1st around here. They get the right-of-way and they won't even bother with that :/

      I think we should subsidize a copy of Frogger for everyone ;O

      At least I am well prepared if I ever find a Gnu behind my door....

    15. Re:Is this important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wouldn't it make more sense to use video games to condition people to [...] look both ways before crossing a road?

      Isn't that exactly what gets taught by Frogger?
      I believe that "junk food's only decent purpose is to be walked on" was also covered by BurgerTime. Hot Dogs were also an enemy to avoid.
      As for having the Power Pad teach people about exercising... maybe that would have worked if it was actually good.

    16. Re:Is this important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In mud games, whenever I see my character's stomach grumbling, I can't help but feel the same. I gained 5 pounds since I started playing this a few months ago.

    17. Re:Is this important? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      That's why the headline is accurate. It says "Video Games Can Improve Terror Attack Preparedness, Even If You Don't Play Them" and that's true. Any time you spend thinking about video games rather than terror attacks makes you better prepared for the real world than the imaginary one in which a terror attack is likely... unless you live in one of a very small list of countries, anyway.

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    18. Re:Is this important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The risk of dying in a terrorist attack is infinitesimal. So should we be expending resources to make people more prepared for something that is almost certainly not going to happen to them?

      And yet every third game out today seems to be about the zombie apocalypse.

    19. Re:Is this important? by Beck_Neard · · Score: 1

      Why do you even have to phrase it in the form of a question, even if a rhetorical one? The obvious answer is: No, it makes absolutely no sense to spend even one second of precious valuable time on 'preparing for terrorist attacks.'

      Top ten leading causes of death:

              Heart disease.
              Cancer
              Chronic lower respiratory disease
              Stroke
              Motor accidents
              Alzheimer's disease
              Diabetes
              Influenza and pneumonia

      It would be much much more beneficial to make people play accident simulation driving sims than 'terror attack' sims.

      And as for video games, I know the internet crowd is going to overwhelmingly say "Video games don't cause violence!!!!!!!!11111" but let's look at the facts. What this and other studies show is that violent video games increase the 'normalcy' of violence in people's minds. They may not make you go and kill someone but they'll make you expect violence in your neighborhood. You see it even on this very forum. People who spend all their time worried about 'psychopaths' and ISIS and bogeymen coming to kill them. Meanwhile they stuff their faces with carcinogens and drive around in fast cars just for fun.

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    20. Re:Is this important? by weilawei · · Score: 1

      So, pretty much Frogger?

    21. Re:Is this important? by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Hows this for click bait http://www.amazon.com/Amanda-R.... Pay careful attention to the nature of both books by that author, what the titles seem to claim and what most knowledgeable people really understand about both of those situations.

      "The smartest kids in the world and how they got that way" - one simple paragraph, they were born with the right genes into the right socio economic environment (buying the book will in, no way, shape or form alters this). "The unthinkable who survives when disaster strikes' - one simple paragraph again, either you are lucky or not as random situations over which you have little or no control play out. What are the books selling, pretty much scammy false hope that buying the books will turn you children into geniuses and make you meteor proof.

      Reality in a terrorist situation, you are just as likely to get killed charging the terrorist as running away, depending upon which direction the terrorist faces when and depending where random chance places you when the terrorist event starts and the method chosen. Blocked at an exit with everyone else trying to do exactly the same thing, shot in in back or trampled in the panic, those nearest the exit get away and those furthest tend to die or Charging the terrorist because you are close enough. Well, the more that do it the fewer that die, simple hard up fact, you might not survive but then it is you choice how you die and the way you will be remembered and there is a chance you will end the attack and survive with you genitals intact (nothing wrong with female heroes and the whole idea of feminine cowering in fear, kind of last millennium).

      The narcissist lie, how we can only survive as an individual looking out for no one but ourselves, the hard reality, the only way we survive is by doing so together, through thick or thin. The more we work together and the more we cooperate, the more we succeed and ensure 'OUR' survival.

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    22. Re:Is this important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      half your luck, I keep killing people and looting their bodies!

    23. Re: Is this important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I'm not. Throw the fucker into Gitmo. It's time to show this Jack Thompson (aka Mohammed Jamal Al-Jihad) that we mean business. Have him incarcerated, brutalized and incinerated.

    24. Re:Is this important? by drkim · · Score: 1

      I'm conditioned to open every chest and box I come across...

      ...and apparently, strippers don't explode in a shower of cash when you shoot them.

    25. Re: Is this important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any good martial arts game would do. To actually be useful, take some self-defence lessons and practice the moves.

    26. Re: Is this important? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Is there a simulation out there on what to do if you are jumped by a street thug? Happened to me a couple of times.

      Make sure you are carrying a large arsenal of fully automatic weaponry.

      If you out-Crocodile Dundee Crocodile Dundee by pulling a GE minigun out of your pants, most muggers are going to back off.

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    27. Re:Is this important? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Top ten [sic] leading causes of death:

      Heart disease.
      Cancer
      Chronic lower respiratory disease
      Stroke
      Motor accidents
      Alzheimer's disease
      Diabetes
      Influenza and pneumonia

      Apart from trying to be reasonably fit and following a sensible diet, there's not much you can do about any of those except motor accidents.

      It would be much much more beneficial to make people play accident simulation driving sims than 'terror attack' sims.

      Two things: first, driving sims and terror attack sims are not mutually exclusive, and second, all the anti-government crowd here would go berserk if it was suggested that there should be ongoing driver education/testing.

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    28. Re: Is this important? by cas2000 · · Score: 1

      yeah, reform your country so that it not only has universal health care (incl. mental health) but also has universal unemployment benefits and disability pensions so that people who would be broke as well as homeless, unemployed and/or crazy in your current system would have a small income on which to feed, clothe, and house themselves and therefore wouldn't be so desperate they had no choice but to mug strangers for a living.

      it sounds like it would be expensive but it's much cheaper than prison and much cheaper than the cost of theft-related murders, and the cost of street crime in general.

      WTF do you think countries like australia or the UK or much of europe don't have rates of begging or mugging even a tiny fraction of that in the US? we have a tiny handful of real crazies doing it, you have the crazies and all the desperate poor doing it as well. you also have a gang culture because neighbourhood gangs take the place of a social safety net in a country without welfare entitlements for all.

      also, you need to restrict gun ownership, especially hand-guns - start with the obvious things like serious background checks and require owners to demonstrate a *real* need to have a gun (not just "i'm scared of black/poor people").

      fuck it, you also need a revolution. send all corporate fat-cats and lobbyists and corrupt politicians to the guillotine. that's about as likely as the US doing any of the other things above.

  5. Gamers are Terrorists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But of course. As we all know, gamers are terrorists.

  6. Terror Sells by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember Boys and Girls You Too can help the Mega corps Market Terror for Mega profits!

  7. Video Game? by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 1

    We have a name for a video that you passively watch of fictitious or staged events. It's called a "movie," and I'm pretty sure that they've been used to train people for various scenarios roughly since the technology has existed.

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    1. Re:Video Game? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, but in this case they're seeing a movie WITH A COMPUTER. That makes it new. The next three years will be spent testing the effects of watching a movie through an app.

    2. Re:Video Game? by drkim · · Score: 1

      We have a name for a video that you passively watch of fictitious or staged events. It's called a "movie,"

      I've personally defended Nakatomi Plaza from terrorists on several occasions.

  8. Burning Questions by avandesande · · Score: 1

    Can we host this on a Beowulf Cluster of IOT devices? Will this attract more women into IT?

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    1. Re:Burning Questions by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      No, but you won't hear the end of how sexist that is and how it keeps them from coming.

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  9. All my years of playing Quake were training by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 1

    During a terror attack, I know I'll hear a quick sound when the detpack is set. At that point I've got a short window where I'll use a rocket jump to accelerate into a bunny hop, swing by the detback to lob a grenade at the enemy if he's still there, and continue bunny hopping to a safe distance.

    Easy as cake.

    1. Re: All my years of playing Quake were training by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The cake is a lie.

  10. Learning responses versus planning responses by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2

    The group who watched learned responses.

    The group who played developed responses.

  11. VR Training by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

    Results indicate that passively watching someone else play the game is as effective as actively playing the game in terms of learning preparedness knowledge.

    It seems like VR would be even more effective than a normal game for those playing, but then you'd lose out on the secondary effect, as it would be difficult for others to watch you play.

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    1. Re:VR Training by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even more effective: developing such a game itself.

  12. Spreading terror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Politicians, media and security industrial machine are deliberately and persistently "terrorizing" people with hyperbole and fear.

    Any game that may prove useful in aiding people to better cope with this onslaught would be most appreciated.

  13. Gamers by danbert8 · · Score: 4, Funny

    During the study, gamers tended to attempt to strafe and run while jumping in a random pattern instead of seeking cover... When shot, they shout out, "HAXOR!" before dying. During the study, the fake "terrorists" were unhappy with their success claiming a high ping made them miss more targets.

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  14. Fuel on the fire ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    general perception of personal vulnerability to terror attacks and their severity increased more in those who actively played the game rather than those who passively watched game play

    Excellent, a new, more effective way to stoke the fear factory that keeps our current civil masters in business.

  15. Graphics suck by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    If I'm supposed to be subjected to a fake terrorist attack to remind me that I'm supposed to be cowed into agreeing with any kind of atrocity we do for the sake of "fighting terror" (with the only actual terror being exacted by our governments), at the very least you could make it visually appealing.

    This is an outrage! I mean, we were being bullshitted 'til now, too, but at least there was some production value in Navy CIS and the like. Now we get bullshitted and bored at the same time? What's that, we're moving towards communism?

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    1. Re:Graphics suck by Archtech · · Score: 1

      " Now we get bullshitted and bored at the same time? What's that, we're moving towards communism?"

      No, more like flying on any commercial airline in the USA.

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    2. Re:Graphics suck by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      That IS already worse than it ever was with Aeroflot during the Soviet days.

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    3. Re:Graphics suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Clearly written by someone who never flew Aeroflot during the Soviet days.

      I did. (Moscow -> Leningrad, St. Petersburg -> Krasnoyarsk (with a stop in the middle of nowhere because Krasnoyarsk was fogbound), Krasnoyarsk -> Moscow. And yes, I was in Leningrad when they changed the name back to St. Petersburg). I'll take Southwest and a couple of other airlines over then Aeroflot anytime.

      That said, though, there are some commercial airlines in the US who are making the old Aeroflot look not too shabby.

  16. Re:Happy Thursday from The Golden Girls! by ihtoit · · Score: 1

    is there any way of filtering specific spam posts?

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  17. Re:Happy Thursday from The Golden Girls! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I usually hate people spamming things but everytime I read this I hear the song in my head and smile... I wish more trolls would post stuff like this and not the usual bait! Thanks you for being a friend, random spammer!

  18. Worry about real problems instead by Archtech · · Score: 1

    Or you could concentrate on threats that aren't vanishingly improbable.

    "As We Show In This Updated list, You’re Much More Likely to Be Killed By Brain-Eating Parasites, Toddlers, Lightning, Falling Out of Bed, Alcoholism, Food Poisoning, Choking On Your Meal, a Financial Crash, Obesity, Medical Errors or “Autoerotic Asphyxiation” than by Terrorists".
    http://www.washingtonsblog.com...

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    1. Re:Worry about real problems instead by Mirar · · Score: 1

      ...so, what are the chances of being killed by low or bad terror attack preparedness? Because it's probably lower than being killed in a terror attack?

    2. Re:Worry about real problems instead by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

      Hmm, your link says that your chance of being killed by a terrorist attack in the USA between 2007 and 2011 was 1 in 20,000,000. Which suggests a higher chance of being killed by terrorists than seems to exist. List I googled for people killed in "terrorist attacks" included cases where the only person killed was the "terrorist". And entirely too many of the cases looked more like the usual crap that goes on, rather than terrorism (abortion protester shot? Is this terrorism now?).

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  19. Preparation, Preparation, Preparation by Doofus · · Score: 3, Informative

    ShanghaiBill,

    Your home or the high-rise in which you work are unlikely to be consumed by fire. Are fire drills important?

    Is it important to know where, for example, the nearest exit is on an airplane or in a theater, even though it is extremely unlikely that you will be confronted with a disabled airplane or a theater massacre-in-the-making?

    Preparation for disasters - whether in terms of visualizing the scenario or actual drills to practice response - can be extremely effective in boosting survival.

    If you are interested in some of the academic study on this and related topics, see this book, The Unthinkable - Who Survives When Disaster Strikes, and Why. The author did a tremendous amount of research, distilling academic papers and studies of recent and not-so-recent disasters to explore human behavior both culturally w/r/t preparedness and engineering, and in the context of the disaster events.

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    1. Re:Preparation, Preparation, Preparation by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      and in the context of the disaster events

      I like that last line you mentioned since no one else did. Disaster preparation is just that, disaster preparation. Is there much of a difference between surviving a bombing scenario vs surviving an earthquake or a fire? What is a terror attack vs some crazed hostage situation?

      People on Slashdot are straight away latching onto the terror angle but there's a lot of applications for disaster preparation.

    2. Re:Preparation, Preparation, Preparation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your home or the high-rise in which you work are unlikely to be consumed by fire. Are fire drills important?

      In the United States in 2011 there were 1,389,500 fires resulting in 3,005 deaths and $11.7 billion in economic loss (according to FEMA) ... would you like to compare the corresponding numbers for terrorism?

      The thing you have to remember is that all interventions have costs - if nothing else, lost time and increased cognitive load of those involved. The more involved the intervention, the more the cost. At a certain point, the costs expended on preparation outweighs the benefits accrued: you may think the lives of your children are priceless, but when push came to shove you probably didn't spend the extra $15,000 on the car that has a marginally better crash safety performance.

      That's basically the point ShanghaiBill is making - individual acts of terrorism are eye-catching, but taken as a whole the amortized risk is near negligible. If you're going to expend effort, you're better off spending time on efforts which prevent against mundane but more frequent risks. For example, instead of making and playing a game which teaches terrorism responses, you'd be better off focusing on a game which teaches defensive driving techniques.

      That's not to say a terrorism-response training game wouldn't help in the miniscule chance you're involved in a terrorism incident, but if it comes at a cost (e.g. adverse psychological effects due to increased "perception of personal vulnerability to terror attacks and their severity") then it might not be worth it.

    3. Re:Preparation, Preparation, Preparation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your home is unlikely to be hit by a meteorite - have you done any drills for that?
      Cost of event * propability of event > (Cost of drill + (Cost of event after having drilled * probability of event)) - then do the drill.

      Either:
      The effectiveness of drills isn't high enough.
      The cost of drills is too high.
      Or the probability of the event is too low.

  20. tea? by Mirar · · Score: 1

    "terror attack preparedness" - what is this?
    Being able to make some tea?

    Keeping common sense after a bomb went off a few feet away?

  21. Generic Causes better, Aftermath is the same by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By this I mean generic scenarios that could have several causes. Its the aftermath that is important, not so much the cause. If the cause is obfuscated the byproduct fears are not induced but the instruction is just as effective.

    Where I live now there is a significant risk of earthquake. I have been in eye-shot of a tornado which fortunately decided not to eat the city I was in. Same answer if its a tsunami or flood or a major attack ...

    How prepared am I for a one day event (seek safety, no power, no water, ...), Two days? a week? Most people don't have the storage space or means to prepare personally beyond this point.
    How prepared is my city / region for a week, two weeks, a year, two years?

    Maybe we need a sim-survival scenario that every elected, appointed and public employee in infrastructure needs to pass ... AT LEAST.
    Arguably it should be a certain portion of the population. Call it a USEFUL draft.

    Since 15% of us (not 5 or 7% as stats would have you believe) are unemployed - seems like an opportunity. Lets extend this to real life training for many beyond that and PAY them as a job to stay up to date.

    If you have a core of people that can respond to these situations you now have a core of people to send to hard hit areas internationally as well. This gets them experience for when it happens domestically and since they would eventually have experience doing this kind of work it might just raise your perceived stature internationally.

    NAH - might cost 10 cents a person and save thousands of lives and millions in property. Too hard.

  22. The risk of dying in a terrorist attack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    @ShanghaiBill: "The risk of dying in a terrorist attack is infinitesimal. So should we be expending resources to make people more prepared for something that is almost certainly not going to happen to them? Wouldn't it make more sense to use video games to condition people to eat better food, exercise, and look both ways before crossing a road?"

    Not only that, why is it the 'terrorists' only ever seen to target civilian non-entity commuters, and not more important people?

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    DASCOMBE: It's not our job to believe it, Lewis. Our job is to tell the people –

  23. I call BS by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

    How can you measure "preparedness"? How can you BE PREPARED for a bombing scenario?

    Prepared to be torn apart by a bomb? What would be usefull to be prepared for in such a scenarion would be first aid. (if you*re close to a bomb explosion but not close enough to get hurt)

    So... which kind of "preparedness" could increase to survive a detonating bomb?

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    1. Re:I call BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Knowing the shape of the blast so you can dive where it'll be weakest.

    2. Re:I call BS by tehcyder · · Score: 1
      As someone who lived through the IRA bombing campaign in London, I can tell you that the only real kind of "preparedness" for civilians is to keep an eye out for suspicious packages in trains or pubs, and to follow directions from the emergency services in case of an actual explosion.

      Other than that, you carry on as normal.

      The alternative is to lock yourself in your bedroom and die a little every time you hear a car backfire outside.

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    3. Re:I call BS by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      The term you're looking for is 'stress inoculation.'

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  24. Re:Happy Thursday from The Golden Girls! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I never understood why those posts got modded down. They're fairly innocuous, benign, and they make Slashdot feel homey.

    I must be spending too much time here...

  25. Not the outcome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... terror attack preparedness materials ...

    Slashdotters have pointed out the pointlessness of terrorism preparedness. But my thoughts align with DOOFUS and THEGARBZ: There have been floods and freeze-overs in the USA, during the last few years, how many people died from them? How much material has been created and delivered to the general public in preparation of these disasters? This fixation on terror attacks is following the money and joining the government propaganda. People need to object to this victim mentality and concentrate on bigger dangers.

    Thirty years ago, as the 'war on drugs' got hot, the big social issues were Rodney King and the spike in gun violence. Two weeks ago, slashdot ran a story on how drug crime was was moving into stable communities and damaging them. The government has not reduced endemic problems and once again, is spending money to fight some possible, potential, arbitrary enemy.