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General Mills To Drop Artificial Ingredients In Cereal

schwit1 writes: General Mills announced Monday that it will be removing artificial colors and flavoring from its cereal products over the next two to three years. The company said that Trix and Reese's Puffs will be some of the first cereals to undergo the changes adding that cereals like Lucky Charms that have marshmallows may take longer to reformulate. They say 90 percent of their cereals will have no artificial ingredients by the end of 2016. "We've continued to listen to consumers who want to see more recognizable and familiar ingredients on the labels and challenged ourselves to remove barriers that prevent adults and children from enjoying our cereals," said Jim Murphy, president of General Mills cereal division, in a statement.

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  1. What are natural flavors, really? by Dorianny · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is absolutely no difference between a flavor-ant that has been isolated and extracted (with chemical processes and solvents in most cases) starting with a natural source and the same chemical that has been produced with a chemical process starting with purified raw ingredients.

    1. Re:What are natural flavors, really? by aralin · · Score: 3, Funny

      When I say I am in mood for strawberry, I mean strawberry, not beetle wings. Is that really so much to ask?

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  2. before the 'bad science' complaints by fermion · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This change has nothing to do with health or whether one additive is more deadly than another additive. For all we know the new formulations are going to be more deadly to humans. I can't imagine that Trix can said to actually nutritional for any human person, although Trix Yogurt used to be one of the less offensive brands of yogurt like food stuff. This change has to do with market differentiation and convincing parents to pay a premium for name brand product that kids will eat. Now, if we are talking nutrition, I would say a mug of steel cut oatmeal with raisins is a good minimally processed food, that is cheap and nutritional to boot. But this was not my breakfast a little tyke because no one made me breakfast. There was dry cereal and a cup of milk and it was up to be to put it together. I ate corn chex mostly, which still has one of the shortest ingredient labels in the business, and BHT is the only thing that is suspect.

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  3. This is interesting by Gordo_1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's this huge movement against GMOs, artificial ingredients and other scapegoat ingredients du jour, despite the fact that virtually all of them have undergone rigorous testing and long-term studies and have proven to be safe for human consumption in reasonable quantities. But I guess if it spooks consumers, companies are going to do what's necessary to maintain their revenue streams. Never mind that a diet high in simple carbs like sugar and HFCS (which are highly and conspicuously represented in General Mills products) are the real enemies that shorten your life and bring on obesity and all its nasty side effects like cancer, heart disease and diabetes. Then again, I guess it's better to simply green wash them as "organic evaporated cane juice" and the like than to risk making things less palatable?

    1. Re:This is interesting by Dorianny · · Score: 2

      There is nothing inherently unhealthy about simple carbs otherwise our bodies would not have evolved to reward us for eating them. The real difference is that simple carbs came bundled with complex carbs and fiber, neither of which are found in a box of highly processed food.

    2. Re:This is interesting by blue9steel · · Score: 2

      There's this huge movement against GMOs, artificial ingredients and other scapegoat ingredients du jour, despite the fact that virtually all of them have undergone rigorous testing and long-term studies and have proven to be safe for human consumption in reasonable quantities.

      Wait, GMOs have gone through long term studies? Since when? Last I checked they were considered GRAS which basically means they don't have to bother with all that science nonsense. If you think there have been long term studies on them I'd like a citation as that's an extraordinary claim.

    3. Re:This is interesting by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2

      Why is it necessary to add random chemicals? How can that be "cheaper"?

      It's cheaper to not have food spoil. It's cheaper not to transport and store parts of food that everyone cuts off and throws away. It's cheaper to synthesize ascorbic acid than it is to extract it from fruits, and the ascorbic acid is identical. Etc.

  4. sold by weight, not volume by turkeydance · · Score: 2

    cereal boxes begin floating off the shelves.

  5. Re:Define "artificial". by aaron4801 · · Score: 4, Informative

    We don't really have to. The FDA already has:
    http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/cfrsearch.cfm?fr=101.22
    Right at the top. (a)(1).

  6. Re:Artificial? by reboot246 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    HFCS is the worst offender, but even simple fructose is bad. It goes straight to the liver. You should keep your intake of the stuff to the barest minimum you can. It's as bad as alcohol for your body, and you don't even get the benefit of a buzz. Just lay off the fructose and your liver will thank you.

    Stick to dextrose (glucose) for your sweetener. It's much easier to digest. Just don't go overboard with it.

  7. True to an extent by aepervius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To some extent true, but there is load of artificial coloring which do not exist naturally. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... is only existing because we made it, and is not existing in insect specie or anything. Heck Some artificial coloring may induce hyperactive behavior in children. http://www.webmd.com/add-adhd/... and http://www.scientificamerican....

    Assuredly evidence might not be enough to forbid the ingredients, but it is enough to warrant caution and maybe remove it from children's food. Personally I do not know the research good enough to tell. Anyway, definitively not natural. But the natural fallacy (which you might have wanted to mention) never took hold for me. Pure natural arsenic or botulism toxin is poison, artificial non naturally existing recent antibiotic, preservative additive are helpful. It is not about the natural or artificial provenance that people should look to, but the effects. But then again that's why it is called a fallacy.

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  8. Re:HFCS by xfade551 · · Score: 4, Funny

    How hard would it be to drop the corn syrup part and just call it fructose?

    Because "High Fructose Corn Syrup" rolls off the tongue slightly better than "a 50%:50% ±10% homogeneous mixture of fructose and glucose with >0.5% residual corn proteins and cellulose."

  9. Re:2-3 Years? by Sowelu · · Score: 2

    Research of replacement options, testing how well they work including long term shelf stability and market approval, establishing new supply chains with different producers, retooling factories, and producing new stock.

  10. Re:Early corporate boardroom conversation leak by rmdingler · · Score: 2
    Arsenic enters your food chain legally through fruit and rice foodstuffs, and has an acceptable legal level in the US and Europe.

    IIRC, gunpowder is a 3>2>1 mixture of sulphur, saltpeter, and charcoal. Sulphur dioxide is a food preservative, probably used in the raisins and other preserved fruit in yuor breakfast cereal... within legally recognized tolerances.

    So no. No jail for the GM GMs.

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  11. Re:Artificial? by jklovanc · · Score: 4, Informative

    The problem with High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS) is not the presence of fructose. Sucrose (cane/beat sugar) is a disaccharide combination of the monosaccharides glucose and fructose. The body breaks down sucrose into glucose and fructose using an enzyme. The problem with HFCF is that it simpler molecules are absorbed into the body must faster than of they had to be broken down first. Spikes in sugar in the bloodstream strain the liver and get stored into fat.

  12. Re:Artificial? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Informative

    The problem with High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS) is not the presence of fructose. Sucrose (cane/beat sugar) is a disaccharide combination of the monosaccharides glucose and fructose. The body breaks down sucrose into glucose and fructose using an enzyme. The problem with HFCF is that it simpler molecules are absorbed into the body must faster than of they had to be broken down first. Spikes in sugar in the bloodstream strain the liver and get stored into fat.

    This video Sugar: The Bitter Truth explains the fructose metabolism you describe in detail and how fructose gets metabolized much like alcohol, but without the limiting effects of consuming too much alcohol ... From the YouTube blurb:

    Robert H. Lustig, MD, UCSF Professor of Pediatrics in the Division of Endocrinology, explores the damage caused by sugary foods. He argues that fructose (too much) and fiber (not enough) appear to be cornerstones of the obesity epidemic through their effects on insulin.

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  13. Re:Artificial? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Informative

    HFCS is the worst offender

    Is it? That HFCS is "bad" is something that everyone "knows", despite little or no evidence. The NIH did a comprehensive review of research on fructose, and found no basis for believing that replacing other sugars with fructose leads to obesity, or is worse for you than sucrose or glucose in any way. Yes, you should try to reduce the amount of sugar in your diet, but there is no reason to single out fructose over other sugars.

  14. About time. by Snufu · · Score: 3, Funny

    Because when I eat "Lucky Charms Cereal", I expect it to be as natural and healthy as the appearance and packaging imply.

  15. Too little, too late by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 2

    Their entire line of product is sugary junk -- Cocoa Puffs and the like. I think the decades long movement of making our food chemically better is now starting to swing in the opposite direction, with the likes of Paleo diet that won't even look at organic whole grains, let alone processed cereals with added sugar and artificial ingredients.

    What's interesting is that just as the US was the first in terrible food and bad eating habits, with the rest of the world catching up, it appears it's also the first to lead on the way back.

  16. Even more reason to switch to knock-off brand by shellster_dude · · Score: 2

    Sometimes I feel bad using off-brand products when I realize how much money the original innovator is losing to a copy-cat...then there are times like these. GM will have to raise their prices for an already over-priced product just so they can pander to suckers. I'll take my GMO's and other "artificial" food items where are completely harmless for half the price, thank you very much.

  17. Re:Artificial? by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 2

    Bingo. It's popular to attack HFCS because naturalist religion is afraid of the name (i.e. they have this stupid belief that any chemical name means unnatural and therefore evil,) but the reality is that all refined sugars are equally bad

  18. Re: Artificial? by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 2

    No, the problem is that sugar tariffs mean the price of other sugars are artificially priced high. Most countries use sugar where the US uses HFCS, even in poorer countries, because sugar isn't artificially priced higher.

  19. Re: question by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 2

    I haven't been demanding it. I don't know anybody else who has either. Most people I know understand the concept of food coloring (like what you buy for cake decorating) and aren't bothered by it.

    The only people that are rabidly opposed to it are the natural food religious zealots. They don't really give a shit if science has found it safe, they just hate seeing chemical names on their food labels and assume that because it doesn't sound like the name of a plant or a vitamin, why then without a doubt it must be bad for you because it's not as gaia intended.

    So for example, you can't use the word "ascorbic acid" on a food label, because a religious nut will flip out and think it's an evil chemical. So instead you have to use the colloquial name for the same molecule, which is vitamin c.

  20. They are not "equally bad". by denzacar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sugar (sucrose) feeds you equal amounts of glucose and fructose.
    HFCS used in sodas is 55% fructose and 41% glucose.

    Human body has built-in sensors for high glucose. Our blood sugar goes up, we feel energized, we stop being hungry.

    Human body has NO sensors for fructose. You can eat or drink it all day and never feel you had enough.
    That's cause fructose in nature comes in the form of fruit. With all that fiber you have to gobble down and then carry around in your gut till the fructose gets extracted.
    And that would trip a bunch of other sensors telling us to stop eating.

    So, when we take sucrose which is exactly half glucose half fructose, the moment we hit satiety for glucose that also trips our "I'm full" sensor and we stop eating.
    At which point we have ingested an equal amount of both ready to burn glucose and ready to be turned into fat and burned later fructose.

    HFCS 55 on the other hand only has about 80% of glucose that sucrose has. And no fiber to trip the "fructose-comes-with-a-lot-of-fiber" sensor.
    So, to reach glucose satiety and trip the "I'm full" sensor drinking HFCS 55, we will have to intake about 1.25 times more sweetener then with sucrose.
    But HFCS 55 has 110% of the amount of the fructose contained in sugar (sucrose).

    Meaning that to reach the same glucose satiety level which would trip that "I'm full" senor, we ingest 1.25 more sweetener which contains 1.1 times more of the chemical we use solely for production of fat.
    Unless we're hiking dozens of miles daily, in snow, up hill, both ways.
    Cause we evolved to store that fructose which grows in warm weather for the long winter months when there is no food growing on trees.
    And we don't start burning it until we burn all our glucose in our bloodstream.

    1.25 times 1.1 equals 1.375 times more fructose (i.e. future fat) ingested when drinking HFCS 55 sweetened soda, compared to drinking the same soda sweetened with sucrose.

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