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New submitter MoarSauce123 writes: Over time I accumulated a number of empty toner cartridges for a Brother laser printer. Initially, I wanted to take a local office supply chain store up on their offer to give me store credit for the returned cartridge. For that credit to be issued I would have to sign up for their store card providing a bunch of personal information. The credit is so lousy that after the deduction from the sales price of a new toner cartridge the price is still much higher than from a large online retailer. And the credit only applies to one new cartridge, so I cannot keep collecting the credit and then get a cartridge 'for free' at some point.

I also looked into a local store of a toner refill chain. Their prices are a bit better, but the closest store is about half an hour away with rather odd business hours. Still, at the end they charge more than the large online retailer asks for a brand new cartridge. For now I bring the empty cartridges to the big office supply store and tell them that I do not want their dumb store credit. I rather have big corp make some bucks on me than throw these things in the trash and have it go to a landfill. Are there any better options? Anything from donating it to charity to refilling myself is of interest.

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  1. How about? by edittard · · Score: 3, Funny

    How about hiding them behind an icon?

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    1. Re:How about? by cayenne8 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Ugh..it is trash.

      Throw it away, let the garbagemen earn their pay and haul it away for you.

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    2. Re:How about? by mlts · · Score: 5, Informative

      The local big box store has a receptacle for toner cartridges. Hit Best Buy, chuck them in there, call it done, the end.

      I had a lot of toner cartridges as well, but no use in keeping them. They are not going to appreciate in value, and as time goes on, that toner cartridge format will be used by fewer printers, so might as well dispose of them properly (and properly isn't the trash can.)

  2. Google It by great+throwdini · · Score: 5, Informative

    Seriously, just Google it: brother toner cartridge recycling program

    1. Re:Google It by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2

      Damn, that's a nice program. Kudos to Brother.

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    2. Re:Google It by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

      Pack the old toner cartridge in the box, taped the shipping label on the box, and leave it out for the mail carrier. I've done that for years.

    3. Re:Google It by ClickOnThis · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Damn, that's a nice program. Kudos to Brother.

      I wish I could find something on their website that states what they actually do with the returned toner cartridges. All I could find is this:

      We will evaluate the opportunities to recycle, reuse, reduce, refuse and reform resources throughout the life cycle of our products.

      My emphasis. This is not a commitment to recycle. It's feel-good corporate-speak.

      Do they actually dismantle and recycle them? Do they refurbish them, or sell them to a refurbisher? Or do they just dispose of them so that they stay out of the after-market?

      I'm sorry to be cynical. Brother may very well be acting as a good corporate citizen. But when I don't see explicit mention of their actions, I start to wonder what they are.

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    4. Re:Google It by basscomm · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Damn, that's a nice program. Kudos to Brother.

      It's not just Brother, just about every printer manufacturer will send you packing materials and / or a shipping label, all for free. Brother laserjet cartridges get a few points by frequently having the return label already in the box with the new one, so you just put the old one in the box, slap the label on it, and drop it in the mail.

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    5. Re:Google It by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I always assumed manufacturers collecting spent toner cartridges to "recycle" was a conspiracy to keep third party re-manufactures from getting used cartridges to rebuild.

    6. Re:Google It by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      I asked this because I do not accumulate those in a business setting. In our office we have the printer service companies (who beat each other up to get our business) deal with that, but they do not do private households and I am not bold enough to just dump my empty cartridges on the pile. I am sure they'd catch on to that quickly because we only have HP at work.

      They probably will accept them.

      They don't do private households in that they won't do business with you. They are often more than happy to take empty toner cartridges for recycling (really, refilling). And the worst that happens is they leave it in the area, so check it after they're through. Hell, if you're scared, ask IT if you can leave your toner carts for them.

      If not, I'm sure there's a walmart or other place with a ink/toner refill business. They'll be more than happy to accept empty cartridges that they send back and refill and sell in the store.

      Hell, the online retailer you buy from probably has a buy back program.

    7. Re:Google It by theskipper · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Imo, if you're an average-use household it's at least worth looking into the refill kits. I've had a Brother HL2280DW for over 4 years (?) and have never bought a new cartridge (or drum unit). As opposed to just popping a new cartridge in, it does take some time to reset the gear and refill from the bottle. But it solves both problems of recycling and high cost of a new unit/cartridge.

      One of the keys to success may be blowing out the old toner before refilling (the refill vendor mentions this). So each refill I'll grab my compressor and head outside, give it a few good blasts then refill with fresh toner. Of course canned air would probably be fine too. Realize though that the low toner light on the printer lies. You don't want to be blowing out a ton of perfectly good toner so I always wait until the print is actually degraded before doing the refill.

      All told, it takes about 15 minutes and the printer is up and running just fine again. We've never noticed any quality differences.

      As far as finding a vendor, when you find one you like, be sure to bookmark them or save the receipt because their names all sound the same (i.e. I finally remembered mine is printer ink warehouse...and that's after placing more than 5 orders ;)

  3. Refill by afidel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For most Brother cartridges you can find refill kits for a fraction of what even generic toner carts with poor reviews cost. I've had good luck with mine, though you WILL want to buy new end caps as they get damaged enough when you remove them that they will almost always leak toner which makes a mess and ruins prints.

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    1. Re:Refill by afidel · · Score: 2

      Here's the one I bought for my color MFP last time I bought, the frequently bought together caps are what I bought after having a mess with the black cart after refilling it.

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    2. Re:Refill by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 3, Informative

      Thanks for this. My experience with the refurb vendors has been fair to terrible. I wonder if I should just replace the caps on a leaky refurb toner I got. Brother makes good machines and sells their carts for a king's ransom. I was literally contemplating $50 more for a new Brother color laser than for a set of toner carts for my existing Brother color laser. The refurbs run 25% of the cost, but I'd rather refill them myself now that I know it's possible.

      As to the OP - don't spend a gallon of gasoline to bring a toner cart in for recycling - just toss in the trash if that's your only option (for a brand without a mail-back program). Economics is hard, but recycling without considering economics is stupid.

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    3. Re:Refill by afidel · · Score: 2

      What in the printer is going to be damaged by stray toner? If stray toner was an issue then laser printers wouldn't exist because no fuser can possibly hope to keep every particle charged and then melted without any falling off. As to the carcinogenicity of carbon black I'll quote the EPA

      RTECS posts a 90-day intermittent inhalation "lowest published toxic concentration" of 50mg/m3 for 6 hours/day (TOXID9, as cited in RTECS) for respiratory tract changes in the rat,

      If you think that refilling a toner cart is going to result in anywhere near that concentration of carbon black in your house for that period of time I have a bridge or two I wish to sell you. You're as paranoid as the folks that rail against CFL's due to the tiny amount of inorganic mercury they contain.

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    4. Re:Refill by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      You can extend the useful life of the Brother cartridges by resetting its "flag gear" as shown here.. Resetting flag gears is an essential skill for anyone who buys a Brother laser printer with the hope that the per-page printing cost will be low. Like many printer makers, the thing starts refusing to print when the cartridge has a long way to go. Luckily, the folks at Brother have engineered a way around that problem for us.

      Unfortunately, the teaser cartridges that come with the printer are missing some small parts that are required for reset. Those can be bought as part of a toner refill kit, though I ended up buying new cartridges before I knew that.

    5. Re:Refill by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 3, Informative

      I work in a very dusty industrial environment. The laser prints coming out of our 14 year old HP LaserJet 5000 come out perfect every time. Which is surprising given how dirty the inside of the printer is. Not just the printer, you'd be amazed at how dirty electronics can be and still function.

      As to the toxicity of Toner, there is more than just carbon black. There's something iron based to hold a charge, and something plastic based to melt under the toner.

  4. Kinda similar ... by gstoddart · · Score: 2

    We have a couple of Brother laser printers in the house .. one's just a printer, the other is the same laser printer base with a scanner/fax/photocopier thing on the top. The both use the same cartridge.

    The problem is that a new toner cartridge costs as much as a new printer, which comes with a toner cartridge. It's almost not cost effective to replace the cartridge.

    Every time we need a new cartridge my wife wants to recycle the printer and buy a new one.

    The idea of that makes me cringe, but I can't defend that it costs less to buy the toner cartridge attached to a printer.

    I don't know what to tell you to do. If the choice is jump through ridiculous hoops, pay extra, or say to hell with it and bin the cartridges ... I'm afraid chucking them in the garbage is the easiest choice.

    If they're going to make it impossible to recycle the toner cartridges, people might give up on trying.

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    1. Re:Kinda similar ... by afidel · · Score: 4, Informative

      The lost leader carts in new printers generally have half or less toner than replacements so you're paying 2-3x as much per print AND you're contributing to e-waste. What I do is buy a toner refill kit and fill up the out of box cart with the same amount of toner as you get in the "high capacity" cartridges that cost more than the printer in some cases. My last 5 bottle refill kit (2 black, CMY) was $30 and printed a few thousand pages.

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    2. Re:Kinda similar ... by gstoddart · · Score: 2

      Well, for many things, I'm sure outsmarting me probably isn't rocket surgery.

      The problem is we're a low-volume printing household -- so when the time comes to start looking for a new toner cartridge, we go online and determine we can buy a whole new printer for considerably less than the replacement cartridge.

      Even accounting for the partially filled cartridge, it's still cheaper. I think we've literally seen printer+cartridge for 1/2 the price of the cartridge if you get the right sale.

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  5. holy black lung, Batman! by Thud457 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Although you can make a bong from an old toner cartridge, it's probably not a good idea.

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  6. Re:Check with the local dump by ArcadeMan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They don't accept dead FedEx batteries?

  7. Call Goodwill and similar places by davidwr · · Score: 2

    Call Goodwill and other charities that specialize in job-training. Some of them may do printer-cartridge-recycling in-house and would love to have your recyclable cartridges.

    Others charities may not do it in-house but they may have buyers lined up to buy cartridges in bulk and will take your donated cartridges.

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  8. Bludgeon Dice employees with them by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Bludgeon Dice employees to death with them.

    Seriously who ever screwed up the front page so it all renders on the left all of a sudden needs to be clubbed over the head a few times.

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  9. Best solution by NEDHead · · Score: 5, Funny

    I bought a laser cutting machine, put it on low, and just burn the text onto the paper. No cartridges to return or refill ever. I currently use solar panels for power, but I don't like the 80% inefficiency, so I am looking into using a lens and fiberoptics to use the light directly. This way I can also incorporate a prism and do color printing.

  10. Only in the US.... by Wdi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    would you even consider to throw these into normal trash. Here in Germany, that would get you fined - (almost) empty laser printer cartridges are nearly on the same level of nastiness as old engine oil.

    On the other hand, if you do not find a commercial recycling program you like (every toner manufacturer and seller on the German market has to take back its empty cartridges at zero cost, and of course we also have companies which specialize in refills and pay a few dimes for used cartridges), every communal recycling center accepts toner cartridges free of charge. And in case they'd manage to make some bucks of them, it goes into the city budget. No need for charity shopping.

    1. Re:Only in the US.... by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 2

      The remaining toner is a health hazard because it is tiny particles (similar to asbestos). It is fine once it is fused to the paper. Some cartridges also have more than just toner in them.

  11. Re:retire and let me have your job by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is from private use...and yes, I do have bigger issues to deal with, but given the many dumb responses here I wonder by now if asking on slashdot was not a colossal mistake. C'mon folks, do you really have to be so mean when someone asks a simple question?