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Simple Geometry = More Seats In an Airline
New submitter innerpeace writes: New airline seat arrangement looks to increase passenger capacity. A patent application by Zodiac Seats France calls for a design that puts every other passenger in a row facing backward. That means that in a row of three fliers, the seat by the window and the seat by the aisle face toward the front of the plane while the middle seat faces toward the back. The design idea could fit up to 80 more passengers in a plane, depending on the current seat layout. Whatever downsides it has, if such a design is adopted, I hope it leads to a stronger adoption of a convention that those with window seats board first.
This looks like it would work fine if everyone knew each other - but would suck if you had an annoying seat mate. Who wants to be forced to look at them - or have them look at you?
This design violates current social norms for personal space. As such I dislike it.
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Didn't slave ship makers have this all figured out two hundred years ago?
this means not sharing arm rests with people.
What I'd like even more though would be if the entire passanger compartment were just removed and added to planes like modules.
What kills the whole experience is the rush onto the plane and the rush off it.
If people actually wait in the seat they're going to depart from rather than at the gate... it means you don't have that silly rush.
They have to do that because whenever the plane isn't in the air it costs the airline money. They want it in the air immediately. Okay, so why not have the passengers board a compartment and then have that instantly swapped with the existing compartment. Thus the compartment and fill slowly as people arrive at the gate and debarking might be a less annoying experience because you could potentially just open all the exits on the plane to let everyone bypass the various people that block the aisle because they can't figure out how to get baggage out of an overhead.
The idea isn't original. Other people have suggested it and of course the planes would have to be designed around the concept. But it would make loading and unloading the plane a matter of two minutes or something which is less time than it takes to refuel the plane.
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#1) This will make it that much more inconvenient for passengers closest to the window to get out when they need to use the bathroom.
#2) Forward-facing seats make more sense during takeoff, as the acceleration from the plane pushes passengers into their seats, but the seats keep them secure. Passengers facing the rear will find it a bit more uncomfortable holding themselves in the seat when basic physics is pushing them out of it. (Yes, I know airline attendants have rear-facing seats. A cousin of mine served as steward on an airline for some years and always complained about them.)
#3) Are airplanes engineered to handle the additional weight of 80 more passengers and their luggage?
It is about staying within safety guidelines mandating the speed of evacuation of aircraft. Beyond that it's about not violating social standards so much that too many fights break out (they're expensive). After that it's about stuffing the most people in with the final limit being not making too many of them so uncomfortable they are willing to pay more for a more expensive seat. There are finally concerns about the actual cost of manufacture of the seats. Southwest has had seats facing each other in exit rows for a long time.
It isn't about getting more seats in a plane
Yeah. Yeah it is. This is why you have seating arrangements designed for the average hypermetabolic midget ectomorph who can exhale, suck it in and hold it for the duration of the flight.
And, if you happen to be a normal sized person or a non-ectomorph body type, or carrying any extra weight at all, said planes are sardine cans where you're expected to die of asphyxiation.
And that's BEFORE the person in front of you reclines their seat and crushes you.
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No, the backwards and the window people would be able to easily insert a catheter to each other, another advantage of that seating.
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If not, he can ask Bill Cosby for advice.
Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
As a guy with very broad shoulders I say: Bring it on!
On planes I prefer aisle seats because that way I don't have to constrict myself in order not to disturb fellow passengers. For me one shoulder in the aisle is the way to travel. Every now and a trolley bangs into me. But so what.
Still I wonder how this is ever going to work gracefully.
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