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Iran Has Signed a Nuclear Accord
New submitter divide overflow writes: According to the New York Times, 'Iran and a group of six nations led by the United States have agreed to a historic accord to significantly limit Tehran's nuclear ability for more than a decade in return for lifting international oil and financial sanctions against Iran, a senior Western diplomat involved in the negotiations said on Tuesday. The deal, which President Obama had long sought as the biggest diplomatic achievement of his presidency, culminates 20 months of negotiations.' Not everyone approves.
ISIS...
As bad as ISIS is, they are not really a threat to world peace. Iran is...
This agreement that took years to reach, is all carrot and no stick. Once the other nations release their sanctions (current sticks), they won't put them back on and if Iran continues to make nukes, they still won't reinstate them after the US gives the Iranians 100 Billion+ $ (which they will likely promptly buy arms and weapons systems from China and Russia with)... It is very important to note that 24/7 access does NOT = "unfettered" access... this deal has notice being given to Iran for the when and where they will inspect... (probably days to weeks in advance) UNFETTERED means any time anywhere no notice... HUGE difference. This was a total cave in and we were better off before any deal. Giving up everything to the opponent is not a metric by which you can claim it is a "good deal". Love him or hate him, Bibi was right, this is a very bad deal...
Oh fuck off. Even North Korea, a genuinely nutty state, represents at best a regional threat. The Great Powers remain essentially untouchable, and for fuck's sake, Iran has several nearby nuclear states (China, Pakistan, India, Israel and Russia) who possess arsenals of one form or another. The whole point of the plan is that the signatory powers (all of which are nuclear states themselves) will have probably a year or more from Iran going into technical breach to mount a response.
Christ all fucking mighty, grow up. Iran does not represent a meaningful threat to the US, and any future existential threat it may represent to Israel is countered by the fact that if it ever mounted a nuclear attack on Israel or Saudi Arabia, the Iranian state, and probably millions of Iranians, would be killed in turn.
MAD works best when the parties don't view a nuclear apocalypse as an event ushering in God's judgment upon men and the rewarding of the holy.
Perhaps you have missed the increasing capability, payload and range, of the missiles in the possession of minor powers. Intercontinental is no longer, or soon will no longer be, a Great Powers exclusive.
A small regional limited nuclear exchange will be a greater environmental catastrophe than all the SUVs, disposable water bottles, and cow farts combined.
Your list of nuclear power is short, a regional nuclear arms race is about to begin.
In 1914 Serbia was considered only a regional threat.
Except that Saddam Hussein agreed to disarm, and then we killed him.
Except, he didn't actually disarm. Had he done so, he would have been fine.
Just agreeing to do something isn't the same as actually doing it.
Gaddafi also agreed to disarm, and turned over the Lockerbie bomber. We killed him too.
No, we didn't, his own people did. Once he turned over the bombers, we largely left him alone.
Historically, there has not been much benefit to acceding to American demands.
Nonsense, have we bombed Japan and Germany recently? How about South Africa? Cuba?
We actually have no interest in bombing anyone, we simply want everyone to play nice.
Iran isn't playing nice.