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Internet Dating Scams Target Older American Women

HughPickens.com writes: The NYT reports: "Janet N. Cook, a church secretary in Virginia, had been a widow for a decade when she joined an Internet dating site and was quickly overcome by a rush of emails, phone calls and plans for a face-to-face visit. "I'm not stupid, but I was totally naïve," says Cook, now 76, who was swept off her feet by a man who called himself Kelvin Wells and described himself as a middle-aged German businessman looking for someone "confident" and "outspoken" to travel with him to places like Italy, his "dream destination." But very soon he began describing various troubles, including being hospitalized in Ghana, where he had gone on business, and asked Cook to bail him out. In all, she sent him nearly $300,000, as he apparently followed a well-honed script that online criminals use to bilk members of dating sites out of tens of millions of dollars a year."

According to the Times internet scammers are targeting women in their 50s and 60s, often retired and living alone, who say that the email and phone wooing forms a bond that may not be physical but that is intense and enveloping. Between July 1 and Dec. 31, 2014, nearly 6,000 people registered complaints of such confidence fraud with losses of $82.3 million, according to the federal Internet Crime Complaint Center. Older people are ideal targets because they often have accumulated savings over a lifetime, own their homes and are susceptible to being deceived by someone intent on fraud. The digital version of the romance con is now sufficiently widespread that AARP's Fraud Watch Network has urged online dating sites to institute more safeguards to protect against such fraud. The AARP network recommends that dating site members use Google's "search by image" to see if the suitor's picture appears on other sites with different names. If an email from "a potential suitor seems suspicious, cut and paste it into Google and see if the words pop up on any romance scam sites," the network advised. The website romancescams.org lists red flags to look for to identify such predators, who urgently appeal to victims for money to cover financial setbacks like unexpected fines, money lost to robbery or unpaid wages. Most victims say they are embarrassed to admit what happened, and they fear that revealing it will bring derision from their family and friends, who will question their judgment and even their ability to handle their own financial affairs."It makes me sound so stupid, but he would be calling me in the evening and at night. It felt so real. We had plans to go to the Bahamas and to Bermuda together," says Louise Brown. "When I found out it was a scam, I felt so betrayed. I kept it secret from my family for two years, but it's an awful thing to carry around. But later I sent him a message and said I forgave him."

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  1. Yes, you ARE stupid by mi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "I'm not stupid, but I was totally naïve," says Cook, now 76, who was swept off her feet by a man who called himself Kelvin Wells [...] In all, she sent him nearly $300,000

    Much as hate to appear victim-blaming, even an utter polyanna-style naïvette would've ended at $3,000. Beyond that, it is stupidity.

    "He" (and am not at all sure, there is an identifiable "he" to this scam — more likely a work of an enterprise) is a crook and should be hung alive by his rib on a rusty hook. But, boy, the lady is stupid...

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    1. Re:Yes, you ARE stupid by gweihir · · Score: 5, Interesting

      While it is not nice, I have to completely agree. This person has lost all reason and all understanding of context there. That is rightfully called "stupid".

      This is not a problem the dating-sites can fix. Stupidity carries a price, sometimes a high one. And there is no way to protect those suffering from it except by removing their freedom to act as they see fit. That is of course completely unacceptable.

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    2. Re:Yes, you ARE stupid by nedlohs · · Score: 4, Informative

      Cognitive decay is part of again (though of course it's not 100% universal). Lots of old people are "stupid" even though they weren't a few years ago. And we do find it acceptable to remove their freedom to act as they see fit - those who get particularly bad tend to have a child (or other trusted person) have power of attorney and essentially make all their important decisions for them.

    3. Re:Yes, you ARE stupid by twistedcubic · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It may not be as stupid as you think, just naive. She even forgave the scammer, which I believe suggests he provided some great conversation and (fake) friendship. Remember guys, great conversation to women can be as good as a strip tease to men. Also, unless she spent all the money (it doesn't say), $300,000 to a 76 year old is not the same as $300,000 to a 26 year old. Any older person with that much spare money has all their needs taken care of, except for companionship, perhaps. The only obvious losers are her heirs, who should just get jobs anyway.

    4. Re: Yes, you ARE stupid by sce7mjm · · Score: 2

      Unless of course the money that has been scammed away was always been earmarked for long term care. Now it is gone the children will have to make a decision about whether to let their parents have a much lower quality of care than expected or completely change their living arrangements to accommodate them under there supervision. Now Base all this on the lack of trust going forward and you have serious emotional issues for all involved.

      I suggest that it is those who have not been involved in this kind of shitstorm that are also naive.

    5. Re:Yes, you ARE stupid by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It may not be as stupid as you think, just naive.

      No. Naive would be believing his story in the first place. Stupid is sending him the money. It's just fucking stupid. I can see sending someone a little bit of money, maybe, but not a large amount you can't afford to lose. That is stupid by any rational definition.

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    6. Re:Yes, you ARE stupid by unixisc · · Score: 2

      Not just that, a person called himself 'Kelvin Wells' and she concluded that he's German just b'cos he told her? Didn't she have any clue about English vs German names? Kelvin Wells is clearly an English name and would have been a native of an English speaking country, like UK, NZ, Australia, South Africa, Canada or US

    7. Re:Yes, you ARE stupid by cusco · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Keep in mind that in the time period she was raised 'trust' was the default in social interactions. My grandfather ended up financing the stocking of a minimarket and never got a penny back in the 1950s. It wasn't until after that experience that he distrusted people asking for money. If she never got ripped off before her scam-o-meter never got recalibrated. Some of these guys are really good too, and remember how many professional investors get taken each year.

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  2. Re: American Cougar Association of DICE by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Not stupid?" To the contrary, extremely stupid. When you want to believe something so badly that you throw all caution to the wind, giving strangers all your money, you are dumb. Not naive. Dumb and desperate. The worst part is that when friends and family point out how its obviously a catfish, the victim turns on them and not the scammer

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  3. Not 'news' by nospam007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's a long con that has been in existence since the very first newspaper introduced a dating column.

    Flimflam people have computers too.

  4. Where do these old people get so much money? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I hope to christ i have 300 grand to fritter away when i'm in my 70s

  5. Of course you are by MikeRT · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "I'm not stupid, but I was totally naïve,"

    Naive is believing that a German businessman who travels to locales like Ghana would describe traveling to Italy as his dream destination, like it's something to aspire to as an adventure, when it's about like driving from Florida to Pennsylvania in distance. Stupid is when you believe that this man could rack up a bill in Ghana that would be a major medical scandal in the US (where hospitals don't even blink at bilking people in many areas) and then blindly start throwing that much money at him.

  6. Re:Internet dating is for cows. by Mitreya · · Score: 4, Funny

    Internet dating is for cows. .. Moo say the cows. YOU COWS!!

    Indeed -- and anonymously trolling message boards is of course reserved for the highly intelligent and most evolved member of the human race. Thank you, sir.

    (I can't believe this got "insightful" moderation already!)

  7. Old people are more susceptible to scams by bangular · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Old people in general are more susceptible to scams. I remember a story awhile back that a university professor fell for a dating scam where someone pretended to be a model. He was an accomplished physicist. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03...

    I'm not sure what to do with that information, but this lady wasn't an isolated incident. The entire population of old people as a whole are more susceptible.

    1. Re:Old people are more susceptible to scams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I speculate that a few factors combine to make them more susceptible:

      1) Age-related cognitive decline. It is a realty, and one well-worth hating. People who experience this often don't realize it (they aren't in a position to be objective about it), and have some pride blocking them from admitting it (after all, they have a lot of success showing just how smart they are!).

      2) Lonliness. The young-and-attractive simply do not experience this like the elderly do. Even people who have spent their lives single, by their own choice, have enough social interaction with the other gender to not really feel the sting of lonliness. On top of that, the age-related cognitive decline can include the reduction of the neurological barriers that help people turn the volume down on these negative emotions....making them even worse. These emotions don't just feel bad...they are strong enough to hijack the reasoning process, making people cognitively incapable of thinking straight.

      3) Existential crisis. We all know we are going to die...but the reality of that is an abstract far-away eventuality for most of our lives. Once you retire, however, and have more time to sit around and think, the reality of this starts really closing in on you. It can create a lot of anxiety and depression, which makes people flail about emotionally...reaching out to anything they can hold on to.

      It is easy for us young, socially-involved, job-having types to get derisive when old people do things that are this wildly stupid. It isn't entirely warranted, however, as the brain does wear out eventually....and yours will too.

    2. Re:Old people are more susceptible to scams by Trepidity · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'd also hypothesize just lack of familiarity with some of the common scams, due to not being involved in a community or social setting where you'd run across them and learn about them. I recognize typical internet scams because I grew up on the internet and spend a lot of time there. At a glance I can recognize a lot of scams and even tell you which ones they are (many have names). My parents have more difficulty detecting obvious internet scams, and when they do it usually takes them more effort. They have to actually think through what might be going on, what the motivations would be, etc., whereas I recognize them by pattern-matching.

  8. Newsflash, the desperate have computers too by ErichTheRed · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I just turned 40 and am a happily married guy, so I haven't been "on the market" lately. But, I do know a lot of people, men and women, who are increasingly desperate and affected with the "urge to merge." $300K is excessive, and I think most reasonable people would have seen the light sooner. But I can definitely see this demographic being a good target for con artists. This guy even pushed the Italy button -- what lovesick middle aged woman doesn't dream of some crazy Tuscan romance fantasy?

    That said, things are different now and it is harder for older people to find suitable partners -- they're fishing in a dwindling pool full of:
    - Unpleasant, bitter divorcees who have had their personalities permanently ruined
    - The unmarryable -- men and women -- who haven't been able to attract anyone due to serious flaws of one kind or another
    - The permanently single -- aka the creepy 55 year old guy still hitting on women in the bar with no intention of settling down or even being honest

    Every woman around my age mentions this as their problem. Some might say they're being too picky, but I definitely see their point. If your choices are limited, and someone suddenly comes along who isn't a player, doesn't live in Mom's basement, and isn't an RMS clone, I could see being very vulnerable.

    1. Re:Newsflash, the desperate have computers too by goose-incarnated · · Score: 2

      Every woman around my age mentions this as their problem. Some might say they're being too picky,

      It is a problem, and they *are* being too picky. Men's desirability rises over time[1] while women's drop. A 45yo man has no problem hooking up either temporarily or permanently with a 30yo woman. As long as he was employed continuously over his lifetime he has acquired those items that make men attractive (money, power, owned house, etc).

      A 45yo women, OTOH, has *lost* those items that made her attractive (youth, beauty). So answer me this: why the hell would a 45yo man hook up with a 45yo woman when he has the opportunity to hook up with a 30-35yo?. A woman at 45 will probably have to settle for a man of 60 - she's still desirablecompared to him.

      [1] up to around age 55-60. At which point it stabilises, then drops slowly.

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    2. Re:Newsflash, the desperate have computers too by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The permanently single -- aka the creepy 55 year old guy still hitting on women in the bar with no intention of settling down or even being honest

      Aside from the parts about not being honest, you seem to turn your nose up at the concept of someone not wanting to marry and to have new and exciting experiences with different women over their lives.

      Why is a guy 55 with no intentions of marrying or "settling down" creepy to use your term?

      If a guy settles down he ceases to be creepy? Why?

      Honestly, at age 50+ it is a GREAT time to be a single man and still hunting women. If you're gunning for women in your own age group, the good thing is, their kids are pretty much GROWN and out of the house and not a drag on you or the relationship. You also have a good job, and disposable income (both of you do) which is nice and so finances aren't that big a strain on the dating or even relationship if it happens.

      At this age, you are both usually more able to travel and experience fun things.

      If you're hunting for the younger ladies, well, again...your more mature, fiscally established and know what your doing in life, can be more confident and all which does make you more attractive to a large swath of women out there.

      Again, not talking about being dishonest, but I'm puzzled why you have the notion that "no intention of settling down" is synonymous with "creepy".

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  9. Re: American Cougar Association of DICE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Your turn will come one day when you have made a terrible mistake. Karma says that when you are tricked and taken, you will get the same sympathy from others as you have given out.

  10. Re: Err, I need some help from the scammers by seanvaandering · · Score: 2

    Maybe you should stop asking for anal on the first date? I know.. it's tough.. but you can do it! ;)

  11. Where are these women? by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 4, Funny

    As a single guy in my late 30s, I would bang a 70-year old if I got 300k a year for it.

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    1. Re:Where are these women? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      As a single guy in my late 30s, I would bang a 70-year old if I got 300k a year for it.

      I'm a single guy in my late 70s. I'd bang a 30 year old if I got $3 a year for it

  12. Re: Internet dating is for cows. by Pubstar · · Score: 2

    I use it because I work really messed up hours, and I barely have any other activities that I do outside of work. I'm not a social shut in, I like to go to electronic music events and festivals, and I meet tons of cool people there, just nobody I would ever find to be dating material.

    Hmmm, maybe that is why most women don't hang around when they find out I still like to go out to shows.

  13. Meanwhile, dating scams targeting men... by balaam's+ass · · Score: 3, Informative

    Meanwhile, internet dating scams targeting men have always existed, but don't seem to garner nearly the same media attention as those targeting women. Maybe because people just accept it as part of the 'reality of the internet'?
    [Single photo of extremely attractive woman, poor use of English, etc, etc]..

    One could argue that online dating sites themselves are scams targeting men, given the unfavorable gender-ratios involved.

    1. Re:Meanwhile, dating scams targeting men... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As if anyone is shocked by the disparity.

      If you are a woman taken in by a con man, PUA, etc., he manipulated and used you. He is a sociopath. A misogynist.

      If you are a man taken in by a pretty face, well you should have known better. You were thinking with your johnson. And not all women are like that.

  14. Re: American Cougar Association of DICE by dryeo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The problem is that at the beginning of senility, when the person is trying to hide it (from themselves as much as anyone), there are no care givers. My Mom managed to go through a few hundred thousand dollars just before she was diagnosed as senile. Where the money went, we don't know though we have suspicions about her neighbour.

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  15. Re: American Cougar Association of DICE by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

    The problem is that at the beginning of senility, when the person is trying to hide it (from themselves as much as anyone), there are no care givers. My Mom managed to go through a few hundred thousand dollars just before she was diagnosed as senile. Where the money went, we don't know though we have suspicions about her neighbour.

    Could have been a church too. I have a few relatives that bypassed their families, and gave their entire estate to some scam-o church. Reverend PeeWee Cutchakockoff needs all the help he can get in doing God's work via his ministry. Daddy needs a new jet too. Praise the Lawd!

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  16. Re: American Cougar Association of DICE by fyngyrz · · Score: 2

    The worst part is that when friends and family point out how its obviously a catfish, the victim turns on them and not the scammer

    AFAIAC, the worst part is that these people vote.

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  17. Re: Internet dating is for cows. by mopower70 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Internet dating is for people who don't have the social skills to meet people and engage in more than a nod or good morning in passing. The same people who don't know their next door neighbors and then complain they have nobody to talk to. Getting out and actually doing something, which would help address the problem, is too outside their comfort zone due to lack of practice. I predict a rise in similar scams targeted at the aging male programmer population who think they'll never fall for it.

    Your view is painfully naive, shallow, and uninformed. For many people, "getting out and actually doing something" is a pretty crappy way of meeting people to date. If your ideal date is... well... someone just like you, it's fantastic. Otherwise, not so much.

    I'm very social as well as involved in my community, but the aspects of community involvement I like as well as most of my hobbies tend to be things other guys like, not other women. Because of my job, I live in primarily family oriented areas where most people are married. I go out a couple times a week and it's always with married couples or just the guys. Single women in my age range are needles in the proverbial haystack.

    Internet dating has been a godsend in meeting people in neighboring areas with different interests and different social circles. Internet dating is a tool. It's a shame you feel the need to denigrate others just because you don't know how to use it.