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FCC Approves AT&T's DirecTV Purchase

An anonymous reader writes: The U.S. Federal Communications Commission has granted approval to AT&T to purchase DirecTV for $48.5 billion. AT&T will become the largest provider of cable or satellite TV in the U.S., with 26.4 million subscribers. "Adding TV customers gives AT&T more power to negotiate with big media companies over prices for those channels. The deal also combines a nationwide satellite TV service, the country's largest, with the No. 2 nationwide wireless network as time spent on mobile devices increases." The FCC did put conditions on the deal: AT&T must make fiber internet service available to 12.5 million people, offer cheaper internet plans to low-income customers, and not mess with the internet traffic of online video competitors.

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  1. legally binding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't think those conditions can be legally binding.

    1. Re:legally binding by Adriax · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure they are.
      If they weren't then how has the FCC pushed similar conditions on other companies?

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    2. Re:legally binding by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Why not? The FCC could disallow the whole deal instead if the parties don't agree.

    3. Re:legally binding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Binding without a duration? No considerations?

      Yea, you'll all have egg on your face when it becomes profitable for a company to break out of these terms and the court case is won almost instantly.

    4. Re:legally binding by ganjadude · · Score: 1
      this one should not be

      offer cheaper internet plans to low-income customers

      the prices should be the same for everyone

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    5. Re:legally binding by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Yes, they are legally binding.

      Unfortunately, there is no monitoring or enforcement mechanism, so effectively it is as if there are no conditions applied.

      Well, I suppose some crazy guy at AT&T will read the document, and go "hey, we should be doing this", maybe try to actually implement some of the rules in his department and then be summarily fired. It's possible, but unlikely.

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  2. I for one, welcome our monopolistic overlords by Culture20 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I just wish it were Ma Bell.

    1. Re:I for one, welcome our monopolistic overlords by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Along with the new commercials: Let's move to the knees, Gertrude. You haven't even touched my dirty knees.

  3. AT&T is now your satellite TV company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you thought you got screwed by their cell phone contracts...

    1. Re:AT&T is now your satellite TV company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you thought you got screwed by their cell phone contracts...

      Not MINE. So now it's AT&direcTv? Well that's great. Just added another company to the growing list of companies I won't do business with anymore, under any circumstances! Last time I was an AT&T customer was when they bought Cingular, as I had been a customer of Cingular. When that contract ended, so did my time with that phone! I switched to a better provider, so I didn't have to deal with AT&T and sure enough, they tried to fuck me on the way out the door, fortunately I was wise to their little games, and knew what to watch out for, and so now, though I wasn't really thinking about getting Direct-t-t-TV or whatever, I DEFINITELY won't now. Not now, not ever.

      FUCK YOU AT&T, and now, FUCK YOU DirecTV too.

      I may not be in the majority here, but I bet I'm far from alone on this. AT&T can eat a bucket of shattered glass, and chase it with a quart of Syrup of Ipecac.

      That actually gives me an awesome idea! Who here has seen the film, "Human Centipede?" That would be a much better way to merge large behemoth conglomerates out to rob the general public and provide progressively shittier and shittier customer service! Just take their executives and maybe their board members, and a few dozen yards of surgical grade silk thread...

    2. Re: AT&T is now your satellite TV company by Scared+Rabbit · · Score: 1

      The last time I did business with AT&T they sent me to collections. This wouldn't be so unusual, except they owed me money at the time and when I'd call them to deal with it they couldn't explain why they did it. I want in the market for satellite TV, but I certainly won't be going to direct TV if I ever am.

  4. Time to cut the cord by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Enough consolidation already. There is nothing left to watch on DirectTV anyway, once Stewart quits in a couple of weeks. Science channel is all ghosts and reality tv, scifi is wrestling and reality tv, discover is completely useless and history isn't even the nazi channel anymore.

    1. Re:Time to cut the cord by Darinbob · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Problem isn't DirecTV itself, it's already better than than any cable company. The problem is with the state of the media companies; crap shows, crap lineups, bundled packages, restrictions on what providers can do with the content, etc.

    2. Re:Time to cut the cord by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the scifi channel admitted they were useless when they changed their name to syfy

    3. Re:Time to cut the cord by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 2

      We dropped all cable subscriptions and now only use Netflix...and it appears that nothing of value was lost. Honestly, 100 channels of crap we'd never watch and 20 more we might watch once a year (if that). As a result we get a little more time to spend doing stuff we like rather than mindlessly watching the current pop-culture fad. We may not be typical consumers of TV but we can't be the only ones who drop it and realize that we don't miss it a bit.

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    4. Re:Time to cut the cord by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Funny

      They ought to make some shows about Alaska. Can't believe nobody has thought of that yet.

    5. Re: Time to cut the cord by Redbehrend · · Score: 1

      Don't remind me where Jon is going.... It's true DTV seen the end coming and said why not lol

    6. Re:Time to cut the cord by Adriax · · Score: 2

      Atleast they were honest in signaling their move from science fiction programming to low budget/knockoff crap.
      I'm still wondering how History got away with trucking/fishing reality shows.

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    7. Re:Time to cut the cord by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      I'm still wondering how History got away with trucking/fishing reality shows.

      Here's how: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/i...

    8. Re:Time to cut the cord by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 1

      ...I'm still wondering how History got away with trucking/fishing reality shows.

      Someone high up in content creation woke up and realized the rest of their programming was, well, history...

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    9. Re:Time to cut the cord by SylvesterTheCat · · Score: 2

      I did the same thing over 2 years ago. I built an a grey-hoverman antenna for broadcast tv and netflix for everything else. The only change is one less drain on my money.

    10. Re:Time to cut the cord by CCarrot · · Score: 1

      They ought to make some shows about Alaska. Can't believe nobody has thought of that yet.

      Yeah! And gold, people LOVE gold, right? It's a sure thing!

      Or, I know...how about a show that takes a mildly challenging profession and drama's it up a bit? You know, take months of footage, then cut and edit to make it sound like the most dangerous thing in the world, worse than swimming with sharks while wrapped in a bacon wetsuit! It's prime-time GOLD!

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    11. Re:Time to cut the cord by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      They wandered off for a while but...They are putting out a huge number of science fiction and fantasy series.

      I hope folks watch
      Ascension
      Defiance
      Killjoys
      12 Monkeys
      Bitten
      Dark Matter
      Continuum (returns fall)
      Haven (returns fall)
      Helix (returns fall)
      Z-nation (September)
      Childhood's End (December)
      Lost Girl (2016)

      Not SciFi but related...
      Face Off

      Plus various one off movies... and of course Sharknado.

      Hmm. on second thought... ;-)

      http://www.syfy.com/shows

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  5. Choice. Dead. by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Informative

    We were looking at going with DirectTV to get away from AT&T, because AT&T sucks rotting puss-filled maggot carcases on a good day.

    There goes that plan.

    1. Re:Choice. Dead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... and it's still better than Comcast.

    2. Re:Choice. Dead. by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

      with Comcast, it takes 3 days of downloading before you can tell they are maggots.

    3. Re:Choice. Dead. by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      We were looking at going with DirectTV to get away from AT&T, because AT&T sucks rotting puss-filled maggot carcases on a good day.

      That's as accurate description of AT&T as I've ever heard. We refer to them as "an overflowing shit-bucket with a turd for a handle."

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    4. Re:Choice. Dead. by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 0

      ... and it's still better than Comcast.

      Being raped with a baseball bat wrapped in barbed-wire is better than Comcast.

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    5. Re:Choice. Dead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We were looking at going with DirectTV to get away from AT&T, because AT&T sucks rotting puss-filled maggot carcases on a good day.

      There goes that plan.

      AT&T IS the rotting puss-filled maggot carcass

    6. Re:Choice. Dead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We were looking at going with DirectTV to get away from AT&T, because AT&T sucks rotting puss-filled maggot carcases on a good day.

      There goes that plan.

      AT&T sucks rotting puss-filled maggot carcases on a good day? You've obviously had a much better experience with them than I did. Your post seemed to imply that there was a GOOD day with them. I did not have that experience.

      Does it seem at all like we're slowly progressing towards the day when we all live in San Angeles, where all restaurants are Taco Bells, and apparently all media companies are AT&T?

    7. Re:Choice. Dead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We were looking at going with DirectTV to get away from AT&T, because AT&T sucks rotting puss-filled maggot carcases on a good day.

      That's as accurate description of AT&T as I've ever heard. We refer to them as "an overflowing shit-bucket with a turd for a handle."

      I thought that was overly kind and gentle, actually.

    8. Re:Choice. Dead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they are going to get away with this because at&t is NOT a traditional incumbent cable company, they are a telephone company that happens to also offer fiber-based television service.

      if it was cox or comcast or timewarner or charter, there'd be no way in hell that they'd be allowed to buy dish or directv.....

      but my argument is that at&t is at least as big or bigger than major cable companies, even just considering their television and internet business.. so they, too, should NOT be allowed to buy a completely separate (separate technology, delivery mechanisms) competitor for same services (subscription television, internet access).

      there is NO fucking way that this purchase, should it be allowed to go forward, will be good for the market (other than directv shareholders), good for the health of the industry, or good for the consumers.

  6. Yep. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many times have you heard - they're now the biggest provider in the US.. This will give them more bargaining power, yada yada yada.

    One thing remains the same (or goes up) - the costs of their service.

  7. Death to choice by theArtificial · · Score: 1

    Eek. Wonder how long it'll take them to mangle the service? On the bright side it's one more reason to get away from TV.

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  8. Goodbye! by zamboni1138 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Goodbye DirecTV/AT&T!

    I'm not even going to wait for the first shoe to drop. I am now devoting some actual time to finding a valid replacement for DirecTV that will still give me access to all the shows I like: Mr. Robot, The Americans, Silicon Valley, Veep, Halt and Catch Fire, and various shows about catching gold and crabs. Right now Sling TV from Dish Network looks like the best offer.

    But just fuck AT&T. I've been a customer at one level or another for going on two decades now. I thought DirecTV was a sneaky asshole with their never ending un-announced rate increases on everything for no good reason, hundreds of channel slots wasted on non-stop infomercials, shopping channels, etc.

    I can't imagine what good ol' AT&T has in store for the millions of innocents that just want decent TV at a decent price. The horror.

    1. Re:Goodbye! by future+assassin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There you go https://thepiratebay.la/ all you need is a big hd and a media box.

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    2. Re:Goodbye! by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      Yeah whats up with that does anyone really want to pay $100 to watch 40 different home shopping channels?

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    3. Re:Goodbye! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      HA!!! and how about that airline food!

    4. Re:Goodbye! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have to hand it to AT&T though, they work really hard at providing the worst customer experience imaginable.
      Seriously I can't imagine anyone willingly signing up unless they are masochists.

    5. Re:Goodbye! by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      Well actually the last time I flew I took Alaska airlines and the cheese and fruit platter and pulled pork dish were both good on the way to alaska.

      I did not however like the reuben sandwich they were selling on the way back.

      Overall as a first time flyer I was impressed with the food but surprised at the lack of peanuts.

      The view was great we even flew through a lightning storm on the way back.

      However the wifi sucked a 50Mb ipad app would not finish on a 3 hour flight.

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    6. Re:Goodbye! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you need storage, take design tips from the experts.

    7. Re:Goodbye! by WCLPeter · · Score: 1

      that will still give me access to all the shows I like

      * Mr. Robot - $24.99
      * The Americans - $34.99
      * Silicon Valley - $24.99
      * Veep - $24.99
      * Halt and Catch Fire - $24.99

      For about the price of a month's worth of cable you could have all the shows you're interested in and save the other 11 months for something else. I did this years ago, picked up an AppleTV - works great for streaming Netflix and my purchased DVD / Blu-Rays I've been ripping into my iTunes Library - and now just get season's passes for the shows I watch. For local events I put a DB8e on my roof, though if you live in an apartment you could mount it to a weighted pole on your balcony or window.

      All in, between my Netflix subscription, Crunchyroll (I really love Anime), DramaFever (I really love Korean dramas), and my iTunes seasons passes I spent around $300 annually on my entertainment - when you consider I used to spend almost $1,500 on cable its amazing how much money I saved. I also have more free time, less of it spent channel surfing looking for stuff to watch, and I never have to watch commercials unless I'm watching OTA, which is why I picked up a DVR+.

      Unless you're big on sports, and the AppleTV has been getting all the big ones lately (Hockey, Football, whatever - I don't watch sports), or your shows aren't available digitally there really isn't much reason to get cable / satellite anymore. I've been cable free for nearly 4 years now and I can honestly say that I don't miss it.

      Note: While I'm Canadian, I'm assuming you're an American and have used the iTunes prices from the US store

    8. Re:Goodbye! by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

      install peer guardian and flashblock, then use primewire.ag for all that. Most TV shows are up within an hour of their initial broadcast.

  9. Drat by p51d007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Less competition, higher prices.

    1. Re:Drat by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Less competition, higher prices.

      Yup. If I had mod points, they'd be yours. These mergers or consolidations NEVER result in a benefit to the consumer. Never, I've not seen it happen once in the last 40 years. It always means crappier service and higher prices.

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  10. We need a verification stage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I read someone else's comment that said that companies should be required to complete the past-due, public-benefit conditions made for their previous mergers before merging again. I like that idea. Maybe if we repeat that enough then it will start to become a real criteria.

    1. Re:We need a verification stage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. How the hell is it in consumers best interest to allow this merger? At least DirectTV basically did its job. No doubt with AT&T in charge that will even go to heck. Maybe they will refuse to launch new satellites till they are really needed, and then when a satellite fails unexpectedly and costs them a third of their channels they will just shove all the same channels on fewer satellites and with more compression. Once they do that, they can send out targeted adds to their affected customers advertising U-Verse. Of course if U-Verse gets too congested for nice high quality video they can just target adds to switch to DirectTV. They can literally compete with themselves.

      Where I live there is actually the choice between U-Verse and Charter and I got the 1 year intro charter offer. They apparently won't give you any other deals now that the year is elapsed. I seriously considered going to U-Verse for a year to save some money, but by the time you add in all their fees it is not that much and you have to deal with the spawn of evil that is AT&T.

    2. Re:We need a verification stage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A bit of searching turned of this 13 broken promises

    3. Re:We need a verification stage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only promise that matters is the promise of kickbacks to those who support the merger.

  11. And they are back..... by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    AT&T is back in the cable TV biz.... and they almost destroyed it the last time they tried this.

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    1. Re:And they are back..... by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      Well the trucks they park out back of where I work advertise att's cable service although its not sold here.

      The people who work there think they are about to have to start carrying dishes on their trucks.

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    2. Re:And they are back..... by _anomaly_ · · Score: 1

      They have been for a long time with U-Verse. I'm a subscriber right now, and previously about 6 years ago or so. It's not bad, but I'm still seriously considering cutting all cable TV cords.

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  12. Dum dum te dum dum te dum dum te dum by enjar · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Imperials claim a new system. The power of the Death Star will not be denied.

  13. Anyone else by The-Ixian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just getting by with Netflix and Amazon Prime?

    I haven't had a full cable TV package for at least 6 years and I really can't say that I miss it.

    I suppose there are some shows that I might be missing out on... but they eventually make it to Prime or Netflix and then I can just binge them. And if they don't, I never saw them in the first place so I can't miss what I never had...

    Recently when CenturyLink offered me a bundle deal with my gigabit Internet it almost doubled the price... I opted to just pay the full price for the Internet. I don't understand why people would pay $100 extra a month for hundreds of channels they will never watch...

    When will channels just be offered a-la-cart?

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    1. Re:Anyone else by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      When media companies start allowing distributors to offer them a la carte. Which will never happen when there are studios pumping out crap no one wants to see surviving by getting bundled with the stuff people do want.

    2. Re:Anyone else by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      Which typically consists of 19 channels of crap and one good channel people actually want when suddenlink dropped viacom the only channel I missed was comedy central and suddenlink replaced it with fxx which has better movies anyway.

      But yeah just amazon prime and netflix here tried hulu for about 20 minutes told them to cancel the trial after i saw they were going to have me pay to watch ads.

      Netflix and amazon prime user for 1 year 7 months now.

      See microsoft just because you jack the prices up from $250 a year to $700 doesn't mean people can pay it and I enjoy netflix and amazon prime a lot more than being able to test any version of office, windows home, pro, server, teriyaki edition

      It still costs less per year for both services than the original technet sub or the new msdn price.

      So dear microsoft I hope you are as happy without my money as I am without you!

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    3. Re:Anyone else by antdude · · Score: 1

      How about live events like sports? :P

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  14. Well shit by acoustix · · Score: 1

    How long before DTV's customer service takes a plunge?

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    1. Re:Well shit by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      About six years ago. Seriously, that's one of the reasons I dropped them and went with Charter cable. They sucked six years ago and I imagine they still suck now.

      Plus, it's really nice now being able to watch television when it's raining.

  15. offer cheaper internet plans to low-income by networkzombie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unless they specify what cheaper is, and what speed of Internet qualifies as worthy of the price they charge, this will still be screwing over low-income customers. I've seen these cheaper plans from other companies that were required by deals and they suck. 384 Kbps for $18.91 per month is bullshit. If it wasn't illegal to share Internet with neighbors I could supply 100 families with Internet at that speed with my overpriced $60 tube. For Comcast you must "Have at least one child eligible to participate in the National School Lunch Program" to qualify for their low income Internet. And most people know what “up to 5 Mbps” means... Crap!

    1. Re:offer cheaper internet plans to low-income by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      Afaik the business att uverse plan we have at work being a business plan has no such limitation although it is $45 for 12mbps 1mbps up basic 384 service is only like $19/mo for residents I think.

      But really what are you going to do with 384Kbps?
      no other wired provider in my area even offer plans that slow and I have 2 other providers.

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  16. Escape Clause by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I wonder then since DTV is changing hands and getting a new owner can us customers get out of our contract?

    1. Re:Escape Clause by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are there approaches you can take that enourage them to dump you? E.g., pre-emptively and in legalese (?) deny any changes to ToS. Enable all rights as outlined under the CAN-SPAM act (to their physical address) and demand confirmation in writing. Start email board members until all *reasonable* demands are met (wrt to marketing, contract changes, information sharing).

      I'm just spitballing. Any lawyers out there that can explain what types of letters a corp like DirecTV/AT&T doesn't want to get?

  17. AT&T Will Service The Account! by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 1
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  18. 12.5 million people really? thats all??? by sims+2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So they are going to cover New York, Los Angeles and Chicago and leave everyone else with dsl and dialup at the same prices they charge for fiber Got it!

    Seriously I can already get fiber through the city whats taking att so long to catch up? And I still have 0 wired options at home other than dialup.

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    1. Re:12.5 million people really? thats all??? by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      They could offer fiber to everyone in the state of Pennsylvania. (12.7m)

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    2. Re:12.5 million people really? thats all??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's been ten plus years while we have waited for AT&T to bring DSL to my mother's house just outside of a small city in Missouri. We are just outside of DSL range. (Around 22k feet i think..) So far the best we can get is wifi, which isn't much.

      Personally, if I had a vote I'd give AT&T the corporate death sentence and force them to break up and cease to exist. They don't give a crap about anything other than short term profits and certainly are not meeting their end of the deal in exchange for their monopoly status. I definitely would require them to honor every previous promise they made and all these new promises before the merger.

      On a side note, I just called NetZero and they said they could provide DSL here if I had an AT&T phone number. (I qualified the next door neighbors phone.) I don't really believe them. That distance is doable, but as far as I know it would require a repeater of some kind.

    3. Re:12.5 million people really? thats all??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe we should require everyone to live in cities instead of filling up valuable farm land with houses and wasting fossil fuels having people drive cars around everywhere.

    4. Re:12.5 million people really? thats all??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe we should require everyone to live in cities instead of filling up valuable farm land with houses and wasting fossil fuels having people drive cars around everywhere.

      Really? Using that as a defense? You have failed. AT&T was granted and allowed to keep its more or less monopolistic status with the understanding that it would serve, not just the easiest to serve people (highest profit), but everyone within reason. They could have made money from providing broadband to outlying areas long ago. Now admittedly it wouldn't be as much as their main areas, but they could have made money. They could have also charged more for distant areas to reflect their real costs. They did none of this. They simply don't give a crap and likely never will.

      AT&T certainly doesn't care about the environmental impact of adding fiber optic lines. That is laughable.

    5. Re:12.5 million people really? thats all??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't have it both ways.

    6. Re:12.5 million people really? thats all??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? Is that all you have to say? If your goal was to waste my time, then well done sir.

  19. 12.5 millions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you shitting me? Only 12.5 million? Fuck everyone who doesn't live in the right two cities.

  20. History? by sycodon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Can anyone cite any instance of one cable provider buying another and then seeing the rates go down and selection go up?

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    1. Re:History? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well the download speed rates will go down and selection of customers will go up. Or did you mean from the customers perspective?

    2. Re:History? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AT&T isn't a cable company. Neither is DirecTV. They were already in bed together, so this is a bit of a snoozefest. AT&T is a DSL provider (among many other things, obviously). DirecTV is a satellite television company.

  21. Got the ill communication by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gonna get it together, watch it
    Gonna get it together, Ma Bell
    I'm like Ma Bell, Got the ill communication
    Ma Bell, Got the ill communication
    Ma Bell, Got the ill communications (Who's that?)
    Ma Bell, Got the ill communication (word 'em up, word-word 'em up)
    Ma Bell
    Keep it on and on and on...

  22. Consolidation worked great for the airlines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are making more money then ever, so the plan worked...for them.

    For the consumer, whom one would like to think the FCC, FTC, etc is looking out for....hmm not so great. Oil is 1/2 the price it used to be, yet fares are about 130% Service continues to be shittier (who thought that was even possible) and flight options more limited.

    Win-Win (win for CEO win for CEO's spouse)

  23. Tried that by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    doesn't work if you've got a teenage daughter. There are a tonne of shows not on netflix/amazon. I suppose I could tell her no, but TV for teens is a social thing. Kinda like how us nerds used to gather round and trade strategies on beating Zelda/Mario. Since most of the shows are on at 8pm (just after most teens finish their Homework but just before bed) it's not practical for her to just go over to her friends house. It's part of a finely honed machine designed to entrap parents...

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    1. Re:Tried that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You still watch shows at the time they air? I thought everyone was DVR'ing all the "live tv" they just had to watch anymore.

    2. Re:Tried that by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2

      grow a pair! you think caving in and helping your daugher rot her brain with stupid tv is a GOOD thing?

      parents. taking the easy way out, because.....reasons!

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    3. Re:Tried that by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      Firstly most of the major networks let you watch their shows on either their own service or hulu for free w/ads the day after they air.

      Second you can even buy a dvr nowadays that will record antenna tv altho the monthly service for the guide is more than a netflix sub on top of the dvr price.

      Thirdly i suppose you could try something like sling tv although i really think thats more of a ripoff than hulu plus.

      I can't stand to watch tv on cable or antenna anymore after having netflix for over a year on antenna I lose interest in the show after 10 minutes of ads and on cable I lose intrest while thinking about how much of my bill went to paying for that ad that I didn't want to see.

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    4. Re:Tried that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're obviously not a parent, are you?

  24. Yeah, that cord tethering you to the satellite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While your ISP is obviously cordless.
    Once "cord cutting" went beyond just terminating your POTS telephone line, the term should have been trashed, it's just dumb calling it that at this point.

  25. Are you sure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not sure how Netflix, et al, is so much better in that respect. Many streaming services are filled largely with those same shows and movies, plus random low-budget stuff. And it's essentially all "bundled" together, including the junk you have no interest in. You can't get a discount for having Netflix or Prime leave out the kids content or the adult-oriented content or shows from specific networks, etc. You pay the same either way, you just have to pay both your ISP and the streaming service now (granted, you likely needed the ISP anyway, but perhaps not as much bandwidth). Then the streaming "rentals" or worse yet "purchases" are still mostly ludicrously priced, DRM'd up the wazoo, and you're usually locked in to that one service provider for all your content.
    I honestly don't see how this is actually "better" from an objective standpoint
    It might be more flexible and cost-effective to buy physical media and rip it yourself, but technically much more complex to set up and manage streaming your own content to mobile devices, etc.

    Anyway, it seems you're defending a company that tries to lure away cable customers using a supposedly hot chick showing off her cleavage on the beach, which a talking horse is supposed to somehow balance out and make "clever" so they won't be _only_ trying to sell with sex (right..). Pretty sure they're marketing directly to the same folks who watch all the crap shows and crap lineups and overlook the unnecessarily bundled packages and content restrictions. Also a company that agreed to be purchased by AT&T. I'm not even convinced they're really better than any cable company, at least in a meaningful way.

    1. Re:Are you sure? by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure how Netflix, et al, is so much better in that respect.

      It costs $12 a month versus a hundred or so. You're still not getting better programming, but at least you're paying a tenth as much to not get better programming. :-)

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    2. Re:Are you sure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not quite fair to exclude the cost of your ISP or wireless plan. Whether you "need it anyway" for other purposes or not, you still can't ACTUALLY get Netflix for only $12 month unless your ISP is free (and fast enough to support decent HD streaming). You're also getting probably 1/30th of the content (if that) and not necessarily the best 30th.

      I use TiVo to extract the best (by my own subjective opinion) content from cable to watch at my convenience, and I can stream it from there both in home and mobile. It works well for me. It's not cheap, but I'm also not broke. If I were broke, entertainment would be a very very low priority expense, and Netflix probably wouldn't even make sense at that point.

      Strangely, I've never had any service or support issues with my cable company over the years, other than them charging somewhat more than I'd prefer, and they're also my ISP which makes that even more impressive. If I told you what company*, you would never believe me because they've got such a bad rep, but seriously, they've been just fine. No problems at all for > 10 years. Once I even forgot to rate-limit my DNS server after I rebuilt with Wheezy, and the support guy I talked to after I got a notice that my connection was being abused actually understood what a DNS amplification attack was and just told me to prevent that, rather than complaining about how running servers is probably officially against their ToS anyway. My service was never cut off, even while my DNS server was tricked into participating in a DDOS due to my mistake above. I was also able to talk them down a bit on price a couple times (applying a "new customers only" promotion when I wasn't, and allowing a discounted bundle for me that wasn't technically even offered).

      *Yes, it begins with a C. Told you you wouldn't believe me. Maybe they suck for some other folks or other areas, but I've had unexpectedly good service, and have no affiliation with the company other than as a normal (though long-time, fairly high tier bundle) customer.

    3. Re:Are you sure? by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      It's not quite fair to exclude the cost of your ISP or wireless plan. Whether you "need it anyway" for other purposes or not, you still can't ACTUALLY get Netflix for only $12 month unless your ISP is free (and fast enough to support decent HD streaming).

      Well, you can do their DVD service for $8, but yes, for their streaming service, you do have to have an Internet connection. Of course, if you have a smartphone, at least in the U.S., your cell service provider will likely require you to have a data plan anyway, so these days it's hard to not have a connection that you could potentially use for watching Netflix if you wanted to. (Whether that data plan would cost you more money if you watched Netflix all day is another matter, of course.)

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    4. Re:Are you sure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's absolutely fair to do that. Internet service is a utility--it's not just for watching Netflix (not even close). Netflix is very data-intensive, of course, but it's ridiculous to pull in the cost of internet service when doing a cost-analysis of Netflix.

    5. Re:Are you sure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then perhaps Cable is a utility, and therefore "free." ;^) After all, it can be used for different things, like live pay-per-view, home shopping, movie rental and purchases, etc.

      Not to mention that cable can be, and often is bundled with Internet service. As such, you could potentially end up paying a higher rate for the Internet part by cancelling the cable part. In addition, a cheaper ISP plan might be fine for surfing and Facebook and email, while being able to support multiple users in a household HD streaming simultaneously (and without hitting caps) may require a faster plan, at a higher price. Mobile is even worse in that regard.

      I can see both sides of the argument, but I still contend that many people who just consider Netflix (et. al.) to cost exactly the subscription price and no more may not be correctly accounting for the total costs involved. The same goes for things like Vonage.

      If 1Gb links and/or fiber to the home, and wireless plans fast enough for reliable HD streaming and with no caps were ubiquitous and essential across the country, your argument would be a lot more compelling. They aren't. Certainly not in the more rural part of the US which may not get that for a decade or more (some places perhaps never).

  26. Re:NEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRDDDDSSS!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    haha holy shit where are my mod points today

  27. Netflix, Amazon, Hulu (&& wtf is up with / by CrashNBrn · · Score: 1
    We also have Hulu Plus, so we can catch Modern Family and The Middle --- although I don't know if we actually need the subscription anymore... On another note, what the F is up with slashdot these days?

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  28. Re:Netflix, Amazon, Hulu (&& wtf is up wit by sims+2 · · Score: 1

    I dunno but it causes safari to hang and crash quite often on my ipad.

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  29. Thanks for monopolies, Obama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DirecTV has been getting more and more expensive and now this.

    I went to DirecTV as part of an effort to get away from Comcast and AT&T.

    Fuck.

    1. Re:Thanks for monopolies, Obama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Move to Dish Network. Easy

  30. They will ignore it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AT&T will simply ignore all conditions placed on them by the FCC. Then pay a cost of business fine, maybe. All while they lobby to get a more amiable corny as the FCC chair.

  31. Re:Netflix, Amazon, Hulu (&& wtf is up wit by adolf · · Score: 1

    Slashdot's 3rd-party linking is now worse than even CNET, Target, Walmart, etc.

    All hail our new corporate overlords. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. The king is dead, long live the king.

    etc.

    The writing has been on the wall for years, now: Why are we still here?

  32. This acquisition is a win win for consumers and AT by rshimizu12 · · Score: 1

    This acquisition is a win win for consumers and AT&T. Fiber to the premises (fiber to the home) is expanded by 12.5 million. This also gives AT&T the ability to free up bandwidth over twisted pair where it is needed. AT&T is required to maintain net neutrality as well. There will also be more competition for high speed internet as well. This also gives AT&T the ability to compete in foreign markets for satellite TV.