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French Killers Inspired By Breaking Bad TV Show
hcs_$reboot writes: Four people who planned to dissolve a young French woman's body in acid were inspired by hit US TV show Breaking Bad. Two men went to the woman's house to settle a €6,000 drug debt. There, they beat her violently, killing her through a blow to the skull. Later, they bought acid in order to dissolve her body. The victim's body was found decomposing in a flat in Toulouse on Monday night, after having being cut up into pieces, covered in cling film and shoved into a suitcase. Chlorine acid had been used to try and disguise any trace of the corpse. A similar "decomposition" scenario is featured in season one of Breaking Bad (2008-2013).
Washing power dissolves tissue much much better. Put corpse in tub, add water, wait some weeks :)
People have been dissolving bodies in acid for a long time. Unless they specifically quoted breaking bad as inspiration, drawing this connection is quite ridiculous, and pretty much just click bait.
Use sodium hydroxid instead. A frosty one would do good.
People have been dissolving bodies in acid for a long time. Unless they specifically quoted breaking bad as inspiration, drawing this connection is quite ridiculous, and pretty much just click bait.
Actually, yes, in the 2nd link. RTFA for chrissake
The prosecutor explained that the suspects had been inspired by a US TV show Breaking Bad, where the lead characters use Hydrofluoric acid - a highly corrosive acid - to dissolve the bodies of their victims
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How long would it have taken to google the correct way to dissolve a body?
At least they didn't use HFl in a steel bath tub.
RTFA for chrissake
Whoa whoa whoa. You're going to have to take that article reading shit outside, mmkay?
We don't do that here.
It appears an efficient way to dissolve a body is alkaline hydrolysis; use potassium hydroxide, add heat and pressure, go drink a couple of coffees, you're done, deal with the goo. Legal as a cremation substitute for a couple of years now in some North American regions.
the famous scene in breaking bad has to do with hydrofluoric acid, not "chlorine acid" (assuming they mean hydrochloric acid)
in the breaking bad scene, jesse puts the body in a bathtub, instead of a plastic bin like he was was instructed to by walt. HF, unlike HCl, dissolves glass and ceramics. and so the partially dissolved body comes crashing through the ceiling
http://breakingbad.wikia.com/w...
mythbusters busted this though:
http://www.today.com/popcultur...
there is a nice combination of acids that apparently works great for dissolving bodies, but neither mythbusters nor breaking bad is going to tell us (probably some mix of acids, paying attention to the molar concentrations)
furthermore, the mafia has been dissolving bodies in acid for decades. breaking bad did not invent the concept, and these french goons did not necessarily get the idea form breaking bad
so the connection of this crime to breaking bad is complete bullshit, invented by some reporter who doesn't know his history of organized crime and is only familiar with tv shows
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Just uncreative idiots. Besides, the dissolve in acid gag is on a show or movie about every other year. It's been around since before color tv. It was even in those ancient radio dramas, or serials, or whatever they called those audio only shows from before tv. I wouldn't be surprised if it was in print before radio.
Of course, idiots will do all kinds of stupid things, even without tv, just look at any history book.
That doesnt mean the criminals were actually inspired by Breaking Bad. That only means the prosecutor saw Breaking Bad and assumed the criminals were copying that. Lets not forget that breaking bad was inspired by REAL LIFE when they wrote that part in. Find me a reliable quote from the actual offenders where they say they were inspired by Breaking Bad. Then your statement will be correct.
People have been dissolving bodies in acid for a long time. Unless they specifically quoted breaking bad as inspiration, drawing this connection is quite ridiculous, and pretty much just click bait.
Actually, yes, in the 2nd link. RTFA for chrissake
The prosecutor explained that the suspects had been inspired by a US TV show Breaking Bad, where the lead characters use Hydrofluoric acid - a highly corrosive acid - to dissolve the bodies of their victims
The prosecutor said it, so it must be legit.
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That was my thought too. When I hear "dissolving bodies in acid" I immediately thought of the Snowtown murders, not Breaking Bad.
55 gallon plastic drum only and hydrofluoric acid. Do not wrap the body first. Did no one take notes during Breaking Bad?
All of which are indirect references to John George Haigh, an actual murderer who did use acid to destroy the bodies of his victims. He used concentrated sulfuric, and it worked very well. The police couldn't even identify most of the remains as a corpse, and certainly not identify it. They only succeeded with one, because the victim wore acid-proof artificial dentures. That was the only part to survive in recognizable form.
Yes, according to their lawyer, Gaul Goodman.
shot.
It's believed they were inspired by the American prison series "Breaking Bad."
is what the article says. how absolutely retarded. maybe i believe they were inspired by santa claus, were wearing purple polkadots at the time, and were reciting the digits of pi while they poured the acid. "its believed" are you kidding me. mainstream media is SO BAD
This is sensationalistic news. Look at the components: drugs, a murdered young woman, gruesome botched corpse disposal and a violent TV show known world wide. Who give a crap about anything else? Not the people who wrote the story and not the people viewing it. Trying to see if any of it makes sense is just spoiling everyone's fun.
It could turn out that the story was scrambled and what really happened was that a dispute over clipping a hedge lead to the death of a pet dog and someone tried to get rid of the evidence in the trash and nobody would care. Nothing could of happened and it was all made up and nobody would care. A retraction could be printed, but it would in microscopic text two weeks later in the margin of the obituaries and it wouldn't make any difference. The story got a headline, some people took the bait and read it and that is all that counts.
Grow up. Thinking about news is obsolete.
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Be a man's man: you want to dispose of a corpse, you nuke the city block.
True.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
Me too.
And they got the idea to use cling film from a Saran Wrap commercial. So let's blame them as well. ;)
Care killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back.
And before books existed, our stone men anchestors told each othet stories about murderers dumping their victims into bogs at the camp fire.
The problem is that they are using the wrong media sources. They need to step it up a notch and study "La Femme Nakita" for how it's really done.
France is the shame of European Union. Despite being a unified nation state, with very strong central government powers, not a loosy federal whatever, they are unable reign in on the extreme amount of criminality going on in their territory. Brazen jewellery robberies are the norm, people are getting sleep gassed in their home and robbed, Marseille and Lyon are off-limits to the cops, etc. I think the guillotine needs to be brought back and the two cities need to be placed under foreign legion control, with summary military law. Unless executed criminals' corpses are put on public display, the french people, being arrogant, unwilling to work and thinking too highly of themselves, will never give up the way of criminality. They are the fornicating rapper ghetto negro equivalent of the EU. They also attract north african and albanian born criminals like a magnet.
In England, dissolving the corpse with acid to destroy evidence is generally synonymous with John George Haigh (AKA the 'acid bath' killer), who predated the Snowtown murders. We see Breaking Bad as derivative!
I thought that this was about a new television show called French Killers
http://forensicscience-britishserialkillers.weebly.com/the-acid-bath-killer.html
I guess these all were inspired by breaking bad too, hmm?
Chrome salts and hydroflouric acid. Turns the entire corpse to carbon and water vapor.
Peanuts, and a trombone.
The film La Femme Nikita by Luc Benson (1990) is famous for the scene where the cleaner guy uses acid to dissolve a body. It's even french.
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Did the suspects tell him or did he assume they learned it from there?
BIG difference.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
aqua regia. It's so much more... refined.
Using acids (or bases, for that matter) on organic matter usually results in some rather unpleasant odors. I would certainly NOT recommend doing something like this in a place where I (or anyone) has to breathe. Yes, the fumes are also toxic, but you go willingly yourself FAR, FAR away from where it happens simply because the stench drives you out.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Neither crime shows nor cop shows (hello 'CSI') tell the truth about building weapons and and destroying evidence. In fact, a lot of dumb weapons (eg. broken beer bottle, or detonator encased in plastique explosive) are popular Hollywood untruths.
Is it TV, drugs, corpses or chemistry?
and is decades older.
Not to mention innumerable actual (non-fictional) cases of bodies being disposed of by one or another corrosive substance.
HF isn't something I'd choose.. way, way too dangerous to handle.
Yeah we don't do that 'round here, boy!
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I can think of dozens of movies where drug dealers go to collect a debt and then kill the debtor.
So I guess these people got their inspiration from those movies?
hcs_$reboot is an idiot.
Greed saves lives. When criminals put their petty emotions in front of their greed, they end up spending their money to chemicals, their time to murder and they still won't get their money and then they get caught.
That was my thought too. When I hear "dissolving bodies in acid" I immediately thought of the Snowtown murders, not Breaking Bad.
Come to South Australia - it's barrels of fun!
Too soon?
Splashed on the floor some way from you and some time ago is like having an open bottle of the stuff and is not going to be "breathed in as gas". Where it is a vapour problem has been in oil refinery accidents where a cloud of the stuff has been blown out under pressure - a white cloud means run like hell.
Thanks for clarifying this. When I want to know the motives of an alleged criminal was really thinking, I find that the prosecuting attorney is usually the best source to figure that out, mainly because of a lack of any bias whatsoever.
And in Belgium it is synonymous with Andras Pandi, born in Csap, Czechoslovakia, now Ukraine, but of Hungarian nationality who ended up fleeing Ukraine because all people with Hungarian nationality living in the USSR would be deported to Siberia during WWII. He went to Switzerland and ended up in Brussels after the world war where he became a well respected protestant minister for the protestant Hungarian minority of Belgium. He murdered all of his family and dissolved the bodies in acid in a bath tub. This happened from 1984 to 1996, only one (and the last one left) daughter survived but had to flee because she would become his next victim. His son, who actively helped to dissolve the bodies (he was a chemist) emigrated to the US in 1990. He was wanted for helping in murder, but apparently he changed his name when he entered the US. The US authorities were never able to find him. So maybe there is still an active 'Acid bath killer' running loose in the US somewhere.
More -1 please! Maybe you will reach -2 eventually.
Statistics do not lie.
You do.
If it weren't for that breaking bad show, maybe this person would still be ... We'll probably dead and in a suitcase but without the acid.
Trying to place blame on TV shows instead of on the "poor misguided people that were influenced by those evil ideas" is dumb enough as-is. People being willing and having a desire to do these things is and has always been the problem.
It is like blaming a gun for a shooting instead of the person that made the decision to obtain it and use it to shoot someone. Redirection of blame because people are too afraid to imagine that their fellow human beings can do these things without the evil influence of something else.
https://youtu.be/u3qy4Zv4snI?t=1m1s "Never trust a man with a pig farm..."
Is "chlorine acid"?
They should have watched Snatch and found themselves a hog farm.
"You need at least 16 pigs to finish the job in one sitting, so be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm."
One suspect explicitly mentioned Breaking Bad. And it looks like the body was not "cut into pieces" (early reports said so, but I've heard it denied several times since then). Source (in French):
http://www.lemonde.fr/police-justice/article/2015/08/08/breaking-bad-sur-les-bords-de-garonne_4716893_1653578.html
The interesting thing is that all the suspects appear to be students in highly-rated, selective colleges, which is fairly unusual in similar, drug-related cases.
... by people who don't know that dissolving bodies in acid has been a crime fiction cliche since forever.
Back in my days we used to wrap the bodies in chicken wire with some stones and dump them in the deep ends of rivers.
A real crime story filed in the entertainment category?
People have been dissolving bodies in acid for a long time. Unless they specifically quoted breaking bad as inspiration, drawing this connection is quite ridiculous, and pretty much just click bait.
Actually, yes, in the 2nd link. RTFA for chrissake
The prosecutor explained that the suspects had been inspired by a US TV show Breaking Bad, where the lead characters use Hydrofluoric acid - a highly corrosive acid - to dissolve the bodies of their victims
How is that them quoting _Breaking Bad_ as inspiration? That's just the prosecutor spouting off. Never believe anything unsupported out of the mouth of a prosecutor. It's likely to be speculation and lies designed for exactly what's happening here: for the credulous to accept as truth.
Real science done by real scientists. Worth a watch.
"We dunk chicken drumsticks in dreaded Hydrofluoric Acid, along with Hydrochloric Acid and Sulfuric Acid. What do you think might happen?"
Flesh-Eating Hydrofluoric Acid - Periodic Table of Videos
Chicken in Acid Conclusion - Periodic Table of Videos
Breaking Bad's writers were too criminally inventive :-)
"Oh, I get it: because of the wine."
"... yes?"