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Oakland Changes License Plate Reader Policy After Filling 80GB Hard Drive

An anonymous reader writes: License plate scanners are a contentious subject, generating lots of debate over what information the government should have, how long they should have it, and what they should do with it. However, it seems policy changes are driven more by practical matters than privacy concerns. Earlier this year, Ars Technica reported that the Oakland Police Department retained millions of records going back to 2010. Now, the department has implemented a six-month retention window, with older data being thrown out. Why the change? They filled up the 80GB hard drive on the Windows XP desktop that hosted the data, and it kept crashing.

Why not just buy a cheap drive with an order of magnitude more storage space? Sgt. Dave Burke said, "We don't just buy stuff from Amazon as you suggested. You have to go to a source, i.e., HP or any reputable source where the city has a contract. And there's a purchase order that has to be submitted, and there has to be money in the budget. Whatever we put on the system, has to be certified. You don't just put anything. I think in the beginning of the program, a desktop was appropriate, but now you start increasing the volume of the camera and vehicles, you have to change, otherwise you're going to drown in the amount of data that's being stored."

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  1. Bureaucracy by Roodvlees · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sometimes it can do good...

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    1. Re:Bureaucracy by war4peace · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yeah but the amount of occurrences where it does good is swamped by those where it does awful things to everyone.

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    2. Re:Bureaucracy by houstonbofh · · Score: 5, Funny

      [citation needed]

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  2. Or you could.. by JeffOwl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just stop keeping data on average citizens for which you don't really have any justification.

    1. Re: Or you could.. by Triklyn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      because public outrage is just noise, whereas additional paperwork takes up valuable sit on your ass time.

  3. It' called COTS by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Common off the shelf.
    You it department needs to learn about and be authorized to use COTS for items less than $100.

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    1. Re:It' called COTS by mwfischer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      but but but how can CIOs and Directors get free stuff if they don't allow private companies to power fist a publically funded organization?

      In the past these were discounts. Now they're licenses to steal.

    2. Re:It' called COTS by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, COTS mean Commercial Off The Shelf. It was originally a military acronym dealing with things that didn't need a MilSpec....

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  4. Honest Sgt by bhcompy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, this Sgt is being honest, and likely will get his hand slapped for it. I work with public IT. Public organizations have contracts with vendors and vendors upcharge like crazy to sell these items, and none of the technical staff can do anything about it, and that's assuming the entity's IT isn't outsourced. This is just one more place where graft exists to line the pockets of donors/supporters/whatever.

  5. If only they weren't in the boondocks by Overzeetop · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's a shame they don't live near a major technology hub. These little backwater towns just don't have the resources to lure competent IT staffers away from the cities where you have large computer-savvy people.

    Where did they say this was?

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  6. Anyone else having a WTF moment here? by bbsguru · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Seriously? This is a networked Windows XP computer storing data on the movements of private individuals until they run out of space...

    Forget the idiotic complaint about the horrors of a government purchasing process: who is responsible for the security of this "system"?
    If a real argument could be made for the need of this data, the system would have been quietly upgraded, and we would have even more information at risk.
    he lack of the upgrade is the best evidence that there is no compelling reason to keep this information at all.

    Six months? I guess I'm OK then, having not been through Oakland in the last six months. So what other municipalities are quietly using this same hopelessly lame system?

  7. There are good reasons for gvt bureaucracy, rememb by raymorris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are, however, good reasons for bureaucracy in government. If government officials can just do whatever they think makes sense, without any accountability to the people, you end up with North Korea. Efficient, but at a cost.

    One reason we have processes in place is so that Sgt Blow doesn't buy a $5000, 200 GB hard drive from his brother. Another reason is that doing bad things on a wide scale costs money. With specific budget items, the citizens of Oakland could decide to cut the budget for license plate readers to $0, and end the program.

    So all the red tape in government in the US is inefficient and annoying, but it's there for a good reason - a few good reasons in fact. Where we get into trouble is in when we pretend it doesn't exist. Like a few years ago, people saying "we can all have healthcare like VA provides, they do a great job". Well, the VA is a giant government bureaucracy, with all of the problems that come with a giant government bureaucracy. It's when we pretend that more government bureaucracy will make things more efficient, less costly, or faster that we get in trouble.

  8. Dave has set the bar high by tkrotchko · · Score: 4, Funny

    "You have to go to a source, i.e., HP or any reputable source where the city has a contract. And there's a purchase order that has to be submitted, and there has to be money in the budget"

    The poor guy is exhausted just thinking about it. He has my sympathy.

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  9. Re:There are good reasons for gvt bureaucracy, rem by goarilla · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A laissez-fair economy sucks as well. It makes the bullies and cutthroats rise to the top without any negative repercussions.

  10. Re:There are good reasons for gvt bureaucracy, rem by jbengt · · Score: 4, Informative

    The US got nation-wide railroad network, flush toilet, telegraph, commercial air-travel, and massively-affordable personal car [wikipedia.org] under laissez-fair economy.

    Let's see:

    Nation-wide railroad network: To incentivize its' constrcution, the US government gave away huge land grants (much of it land of various Indian tribes) to corporations. The US maintains a federal bureaucracy to support rail transportation.

    Flush toilets: Flush toilets existed for hundreds of years before the US did. Improved designs became popular and mass produced as governments built water supplies and sewers run to each house.

    Telegraph: Before it was commercially built in the US, a demonstration line between Washington and Baltimore funded by Congress was built by Morse. Early commercialization was protected by patents.

    Commercial air travel: Early commercial air travel was supported by US mail delivery. Massive government investments in airports, air traffic control, and safety bureaucracy support it now.

    Massively-affordable personal car: Useful for travel because of the government construction and control of roads and bridges.