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Meet YouTube Gaming, Twitch's Archenemy
An anonymous reader writes: As expected Google has launched its answer to Twitch, YouTube Gaming available on the web, Android and iOS. Techcrunch reports: "We played with the Android app before the launch, and here's how it works. When you open the app, you are presented with a search bar at the top, a few featured channels at the top and then a feed of the most popular channels. The current featured channels don't focus on esports like most Twitch channels. Right now, you can find a 12-hour stream of NBA 2K15, and official stream of Metal Gear Solid V, a speed run of Until Dawn and an Eve Online live show."
Just buy the game on DVD.
It has a search function!!! Thats amazing!!!
Twitch has been doing this for years why have they never thought of that??
(Amazon owns Twitch yet fire tv has no search in twitch app)
Minimum threshold fixed. Thanks!
It's like spectator sports, but the audience may also be a player of the game.
I never got the appeal of spectator sports but I do like to watch someone skilled play a game, so that I can learn from it and become better myself.
Although frankly, I prefer watching stuff that's pre-recorded so I can skip through boring and mundane bits. At the cost of not being able to interact with the broadcaster. But let's face it, that never really happens in the really popular channels anyway, you just get drowned in the flood of chat, and the chat ends up being ignored by the player, and there is only conversation between spectators.
Always read at -1, don't let others decide what you should and should not read.
Its a spectator sport, like watching someone play games at the arcade. Also useful for seeing how the game plays if you are considering purchasing it.
A video game is a copyrighted audiovisual work, and streaming a video game without permission from the game's publisher is copyright infringement. How do Twitch and YouTube Gaming either obtain this permission or provide a means for members to apply to publishers to obtain this permission?
That website is so bandwidth and CPU intensive that I thought it was a black empty page for nearly ten seconds.
Some people will probably use it, but it'll be hard to convince people to move away from Twitch, not because it is any better, but because Google isn't really offering any compelling reason to move.
It's like they assume that just because they are Google, people will immediately jump ship. And we all know how well that worked with Google plus...
Go to Youtube and look up "vanossgaming" some time.
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How long are you going to repeat that same line even after Google has publicly said they've stopped integrating G+ and are actually going in the reverse direction? So "we" know it's not coming, and you should let the people paying you to repeat this line know as well.
It's already horrible, I tried it this morning. I made an account. It wanted my real name (used a fake one of course), needed to verify my phone number, and had to create a whole YouTube channel (which was difficult due to a faulty redirect) just to be able to choose my display name. And of course, it automatically makes a g+ page for your YouTube channel, because why not. Overall it was an awful experience. They don't even tell you what you need to do, they just let you figure it out on your own and hope you already have a conception of how yt/google accounts work. Oh, and all of this was just to be able to use the chat, nothing else.
Until there's an app on both of these platforms, this is going to be an also-ran.
I forgot to disable the in-game radio for GTA V for livestream footage I posted to YouTube and was Content ID'd almost instantly, so whatever money I might have made (had I enabled monetization) is going to UMG now
crazy dynamite monkey
Ooooooh, look at the big man, building his most perfect strawman to delineate what entertainment is societally acceptable.
Now I have seen the light! Time to go binge-watch some random shitty sitcom on Netflix!
The copyright ID system is in full effect in REAL TIME on the YouTube Gaming platform, this makes it pointless from the get-go. Playing GTA5? Have fun getting your account dinged because the radio, full of licensed garbage, is playing. Anything by Nintendo? Flagged and muted, because Nintendo is anti-gamer. The list goes on and on. Nobody of any value, note, or worth will be using "YouTube Gaming."
Watching other people do it has always been popular, I just never thought that applied to banal and mundane activities. What's next, live streams of the commute to the office?
I miss the old Google. The one that did things besides buy or blindly copy somebody else's work.
I don't get it.
Just what I've always wanted.. forced 360p LQ video of my fav gaming content makers. GREAT!
Also, if they are only allowing high subscribed channels in to this then its not cool or useful and seems motr like another way to monetize other's content.
PPN
"Dude, you have to check out xxyomgsexygamergirl's latest video on Youtube Gaming!"
Link? ;-)
You were critically hit for no damage. The bruise will look nice, and maybe the scars will make good party talk.
As for YouTube Gaming, I don't give it much of a chance. I'd say 25% chance it competes properly with Twitch, and about a 60% chance of it going the way of Google+. That leaves a quite-slim 15% chance of anything else, including, but not limited to, dethroning Twitch.
Or being an also-ran like Hitbox...
You're messin' with my Zen Thing, man.....
Millions of people watching other people play Minecraft. May God have mercy on us.
Or even Hearthstone, or Dota2 (thousands on a single channel!), or old Sega games?? They pack them in over on Twitch.....
You're messin' with my Zen Thing, man.....
I wonder if they will incorporate third party apps like Moobot and Nightbot that helps with the chat issues? If they don't, then folks will quickly tire of the experience.
You're messin' with my Zen Thing, man.....
They can't stream simultaneously elsewhere. A number of twitch partners would switch to hitbox on the bad twitch days (e.g. CosmoWright).
I watch a lot of spedrunners and the occasional eSports event on twitch/hitbox. I watched a friend try out youtube's streaming today, because he was excited about it. It seemed competent but not really a serious threat to twitch, at least for now.
First, the pros:
- They appear to offer lower quality re-encodes to all streams, whereas Twitch only provides them for partners and streams with a lot of viewers (because re-encodes cost them CPU). This is a nice perk for people who would like to stream at a high resolution/bitrate, but still allow users with bad internet / mobile users to watch them.
- Support for higher bitrates (above 3500kbps)
- Youtube has built-in "DVR" functionality, where you can pause and rewind the video at any time during a stream, and then catch back up to "live" when you choose. This is actually a very cool feature that is not offered by Twitch, Hitbox, etc.
And now, the cons:
- The interface is bare bones. There's no way to pop out the stream video or the chat. The streamer "profile" page is AWFUL. There's no indicator on the main youtube site that someone you're following is currently livestreaming--you have to go specifically to the gaming subdomain and then pop out the right-side panel.
- The chat interface doesn't support commands or even emotes (/me). It has no timestamps. It has no user list to see who is watching (no way to know if the person you're chatting with has suddenly left)
It remains to be seen whether ContentID (or similar) will become a serious problem with youtube's streaming service. It also remains to be seen if they'll follow in twitch's footsteps and implement those silly graphical chat emotes--they're a big part of the twitch culture, and are obviously rather popular, though I for one would be glad to see them go.
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It's like Twitch, so yes. Sometimes those gaming videos are fun to watch for some unknown reason, and I find myself watching them. Some of it is a sneak peak, as in seeing if the game is worth $60 becuase you can never trust marketing or even word of mouth (because even your best friends will never have the same tastes you do). Some of it is watching someone screw up. Sometimes someone has a different strategy than you do and it's interesting. Or it's just funny (witness Felicia and Ryan Day playing games against each other). Generally the person playing the game needs to TALK, it can't just be game playing as that's boring. A game tournament (aka esports but without the idiocy of using the word "sports") would be terribly boring I think, but some of the speed runs I've seen are fun just from seeing the tricks and strictly-legal cheats being employed.
As far as the new youtube thing, it's overblown. Just another way to search for videos.
Looks like the people responsible for the new google maps UI also made this turd.
Twitch isn't pretty but at least navigating the site makes some sense.
YouTube Gaming on the other hand is cancer for the eyes. Fucking tablet UIs
Everyone who buys Wild Hunt will receive 16 specially prepared DLCs absolutely for free, regardless of platform.
Imagine Twitch, only with YouTube commenters in the chat.
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Thats "one" persons opinion
Everything is one person's opinion until it's tested in a court of law. The article I linked states that such a case has been decided for board games, but not for video games.
Look, the only company that really doesn't care for streaming is Nintendo, goes to show just how stuck in the past they are.
From the article I linked: "Capcom can make you get a license for the 'public performance' of the game. In fact, that is exactly what Capcom does with for-profit tournaments" with games in the Street Fighter series. Blizzard likewise has tried to use copyright to give one Korean TV network exclusive rights to StarCraft II . Sega at one time did a massive takedown of its Shining RPG series on YouTube.
Streaming is built right in to the PS4 and Xbox One.
From the manual: "For some games, there might be scenes in which video cannot be recorded. The maximum 15 minutes of gameplay that are saved as a video clip do not include scenes in which video cannot be recorded. An icon is displayed in the upper left corner of the screen at the start and end of these scenes." This Ars Technica article agrees. Is a licensee allowed to designate the entire game as such a scene? Apparently so, according to this Polygon article and this reddit post.
This Ars Technica article agrees. Is a licensee allowed to designate the entire game as such a scene? Apparently so, according to this Polygon article and this reddit post.
They "can" but don't, not for Twitch type streaming. The CoD and Minecraft examples you give are for "Share Play" which is different from Twitch/Ustream/Youtube streaming, or "game DVR". Share play lets some one over the internet, log into a "local" mulitplayer game, where they don't even have to own the game.