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Analysis Reveals Almost No Real Women On Ashley Madison
gurps_npc writes: Ashley Madison claimed to have about 31 million men and 5.5 million woman enrolled. Those odds are not good for the men, 6:1. But unfortunately, most of those 'women' were fake. This researcher analyzed the data and found only 12,000 actual, real women using Ashley Madison. That means for every 7750 men, there were 3 women. There are reports that Ashley Madison paid people to create fake female profiles. Their website admits that 'some of the users may be there for "entertainment purposes."' The article itself is well written, including a description of the analysis. A charitable person would say that Ashley Madison was selling a fantasy, not reality. But a realist would say Ashley Madison is just a thief stealing money from lonely, unhappy men.
' Their website admits that 'some of the users may be there for "entertainment purposes."'
Not to confuse those with the 'professional' cheaters.
" That means for every 7750 men, there were 3 women"
So does that mean there were 2583 men for every woman?
Can someone put this into football fields for me?
Was Ashley Madison first and foremost a gay hookup site for married men? Or were vanishingly few guys every getting laid through the site? Or were those few women (literally) staggeringly busy?
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...something along the lines of "Welcome to the Internet, where the men are men, the women are men, and the children are FBI agents" ?
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Go watch "Love Me" (available on Netflix) about Ukrainian "mail order" brides. Those guys are charging ten bucks per message from the guy to the woman. Ostensibly because of the translation services they off. One of the dudes on there was out $10k on messages to one woman alone.
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But a realist would say Ashley Madison is just a thief stealing money from lonely, unhappy men.
But a realist would say Ashley Madison is just cheating men cheating on their wives.
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and how many of those female profiles were just astroturf Ashley Madison profiles put there to entice men into joining?
The whole thing is just a sad commentary on the current state of affairs (no pun intended) of the world we live in. Who are the real villains here? The cheating husbands or the people at AM that set up this apparently honey pot of a web site to lure men in and then charge them to delete their profiles after the fact? A curse on all their houses I say.
Yes, because this data set gives us interesting insights into so many topics. From figuring out what your chances of actually meeting a woman on such sites, to demographical analysis (how does the data set in the AM database vary from the average demographics? How can we explain the difference? Self-reporting bias (i.e. presenting yourself better than you are), of course, but maybe there is more?
Blackmailing these people really is just skiming the surface for easy-to-catch fish. If you dig deep into such a dataset, who knows what you can find?
Are their profile texts included? I'm sure you can do so many interesting linguistical analysis if you have both the texts and the demographic data. I know this has been done in the past on other dating sites for research projects, but here you have an even more specific set. We can measure deception in written language - do these profiles show above-average signs of deception, or are these people who deceive their spouses honest to their potential online partners?
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An article I saw said what wasn't released was mostly a database of pictures and messages exchanged through the site. It said there were two problems with releasing the pictures, the database is very large (compared to the text files that compress fairly well), and 40% of the pictures were dick shots and they didn't want to release those. They could still release the database of messages though. I think they are doing the same things as the Snowden leaks, release parts at a time to keep the interest alive, and slowly drive the spike through AM's heart.
That doesn't sound right. I expect that the men completely outnumber the women, and that the 'women' are largely fake, but only 12,000?
With all the advertising that AM has done, and with the huge number of women online (consider pinterest for heavens sake), and the huge number of women that have affairs, it seems unlikely to me that only 12,000 actual women signed up.
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I think it was an extortion honeypot, TBH. It's possible that the CEO has criminal connections, or ties to a government intelligence operation. Think about the leverage that could be applied to government officials, politicians, corporate managers, etc. with this information. For example, it's exactly the kind of info the CIA uses against foreign government officials in order to turn them into intelligence assets. And there's already reports of outed AM account holders being extorted to pay up to get their information removed or the blackmailers will forward the info directly to spouses, friends, family, and co-workers. The timing of the release kind of suspect as well. In addition, another site (Rentboy.com, I think) that potentially has damaging info on its account holders was recently raided by the FBI. What if that was a pre-emptive raid in order to keep its database from falling into the hands of hackers and released to the internet? This is Alex Jones territory, I know, but the stated reasons by the Impact Team for releasing the data just doesn't hold water for me.
About 18 months after my wife died, I went on POF and was on it for about 6 months. I didn't want to date anyone from work and am to socially awkward to meet people at bars or clubs.
There are an amazing number of available woman. It took me a while getting used to how fast people moved on a first date - even on a lunch first date.
That said, I met a few quality people and am now engaged with someone I met from that site.
On a site like that - the only real women would be women that are either desperate or looking for other women.
I had heard that most the women on AM were call girls. Now I doubt that, as I'd think there'd have been a lot more, but still, there's a third category for your list.
They're women who know they're facilitating cheating and quite possibly destroying families - ever seen what divorce does to kids? Even the amicable divorces do a lot of damage, and divorces due to infidelity tend not to be amicable. A woman who understands she's doing that and is okay with that can't be trusted. These are the kinds of women who poke holes in condoms to get that child support money. If the cheating guy has any sort of standing in the community, like holding some sort of local office or operating any significant business, he can now be blackmailed - and that was before the data was breached. There's already been some suicides over this, in fact.
A call girl would be an improvement.
I'm no prude. I'm all for consenting adult people screwing around if that's what they want to do. When I was younger, I did my own share of that. But I didn't have to lie and cheat to do it, and neither do they. I was not married and I openly told the women I was seeing, up front, "hey I'm not looking for a commitment at this time, in fact I am going to see other people, if you want to do the same, be my guest". It was never an issue and they appreciated the honesty. But to marry someone and claim to make an exclusive commitment, and then abuse their trust like that, it's just plain fucked up. No "puritannical morality" is necessary to see how fucked up that really is. Ask anyone who's ever had it done to them.
Sure they do. It's called facebook. More women use facebook than anything else. You're more likely to find a cheating partner on facebook than anywhere else without having to pay anything. And facebook would protect your damn privacy from your spouse more so than Ashley Madison ever would. So what's the point of Ashley Madison?
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Yeah, sure you are. I'm not falling for that again ...
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It is surprising that there are not MORE suicides correlated with that list, just based on general suicide statistics.
- General US suicide rate for men is 19.4 per 100,000 per year. (wiki)
- If there were 31,000,000 men on AM, let's assume a quarter are in the US, so 7,750,000.
- Based on the above suicide rate, one could expect 1503 suicides from that group within a year. That is 4.1 suicides per day.
People have discovered that 3 different people from the group committed suicide since it was dumped. Statistically there should be at least another dozen or two.
I am not a statistician, feel free to correct my math/assumptions.
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In the city I live in (one of the top 10 for population in the US), there were real women on AM who would respond and meet in person. I met two of them for drinks. Of course, the reality of AM is that for me and the women I met it was just a form of marriage counseling where we needed someone to talk through some issues with. In both cases we talked openly about the challenges that arise at different points in marriages and how sex can suffer. We never talked fantasies and, despite obvious chemistry in one of the meetings, never thought of going further than casual conversation. Finding someone to talk to seemed to be what we were after.
Of course, they may have gone on to do more with other men. But, the only reason they said they responded was because mine one of the only non-creepy messages they received. Apparently even married guys think dick pics and very forward sexual comments are the best way to get a woman's attention (tip: no).
I'm deleting all 6 of my accounts. I simply cant abide dishonesty.
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