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3 Category 4 Hurricanes Develop In the Pacific At Once For the First Time
Kristine Lofgren writes: For the first time in recorded history, three Category 4 hurricanes were seen in the Pacific Ocean at the same time. Climatologists have been warning that climate change may produce more extreme weather situations, and this may be a peek at the future to come. Eric Blake, a specialist with the National Hurricane Center summed it up with a tweet: "Historic central/eastern Pacific outbreak- 3 major hurricanes at once for the first time on record!"
Climatologists have been warning that climate change may produce more extreme weather situations, and this may be a peak at the future to come. ... this may be the top of a mountain at the future to come? What a bunch of wankers. If any one of us were this incompetent at our jobs, we'd be fired. Some "editors" we have here.
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>> Peak at the future
Sounds kinky. Mind if I take a peek?
peak/peek is the new your/you're
thanks for editing, samzenpus
quad damage.
that this isn't real, and is all just a figment of those libbbbbrul billionaires' imaginations..
Will this peak in the future or once the future happens will have peaked?
Doc Brown, tell is what this means!
Quick, pay Al Gore money to make this stop.
Le me be the first to point out that our recorded meteorological data for Pacific hurricanes is pretty much meaningless in terms of geologic time.
"Climatologists have been warning that climate change may produce more extreme weather situations"
So what observations would make the climatologists question the basis for this prediction?
"...climate change will produce more extreme weather situations..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Florida_hurricanes
So, explain to me why Florida's last hurricane was ten years ago???
How long without a major hurricane? And what did the Alarmists say? "Coincidence", "Actually because of Globa Warming", "It's just weather", etc.
Now, 4 show up at once and IT'S CLIMATE CHANGE, OHMYGODWEREGONNADIE!
Note that I said "alarmists" and not scientists because the scientists said nothing of the kind.
This is why Climate Scientists can't have nice things. If they had any sense, they bind and gag these morons like Kristine Lofgren
And just a few days ago news came out that there weren't any hurricanes and perhaps that was due to climate change.
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Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
I'd be worried if things were going to get worse.
Probably if two of these three collide, they would destructively interfere and tear each other apart. But, every once in a while if the conditions are just right, they could form a global warming MegaSharknado!
Seriously, this is all just hokum anyway. Weather is wildly unpredictable and constantly variable. There will always be something happened that hasn't happened in $ARBITRARYTIMEFRAME. This is not proof of global warming or anything else, other than weather is unpredictable and we don't records that go back very far. The last two winters where I live have been brutal, and arctic sea ice hit an all time record last year as I recall. Why do people keep spouting this nonsense? I guess if you aren't religious and so lose the ability to chalk everything up to Acts of God, it's human nature to invent another fantasy to follow because there always has to be a reason, nothing can ever just be happening at random, that would be a skeery universe!
wmd on credit MANufactured 'weather' no match for momkind spirit of creation.... using our own resources against us is not new... theater of the crown royal zionic nazi genociders dulls the senses one trick (destruction) phonys.. god's 'messengers'...
Well, it may indicate the severity of the ongoing climate disaster,, but the Pacific hurricanes won't hit the USA so they really don't happen.
Couple tropical storms. Quietist I can remember.
Climate change is really a big hoax for governments to control and tax. Carbon footprint crap is just that -- crap. It's a method of control.
This is exactly what would be expected from a record El Niño.
I love Jesus, except for his foreign policy.
We haven't had sh!t for storms.
-A sympathetic to disasters, but desperate for any sort of East Coast swell surfer
The Pacific tropical activity can be attributed, in part, to impressively warm ocean water.
El Nino is an anomalous, yet periodic, warming of the central and eastern equatorial Pacific Ocean. For reasons still not well understood, every 2 to 7 years, this patch of ocean warms for a period of 6 to 18 months.
Global warming caused by humans or effects of the not well understood El Nino? How much data do we have on simultaneous storms in the pacific? Assuming it was when the first weather satellite was launched in 1960, we've had 55 years of data which is what, maybe a dozen El Ninos? Is this an outlier? Is this normal? Or is it definitely evidence of human influence on the climate? Perhaps it's just a clickbait article from Weather.com...
Yes it's an anecdote! Were you expecting original research in a Slashdot comment?
Hopefully, these hurricanes are heading to California. We need the water — and the shark fins for soup.
Last night I had a conversation with someone about kitchen knives, and then just this afternoon I had ANOTHER conversation with a different person about kitchen knives. Two conversations on kitchen knives within 24 hours! That has never happened before. Sure climate change is to blame for it.
Proverbs 21:19
This reminds me of Pacific Rim, where they keep getting bigger and more frequent. The rift (probably human psychology) can't be nuked. Gotta change our mindset from the inside.
As evidenced by this link.
I thought they were called hurricanes if they developed in the Atlantic, and something else if they developed in the Pacific.....
History has been recorded now for thousands of years, but it is only thanks to satellite technology, starting in the 70's, that we were able to observe and detect hurricanes over the vast Pacific region. So the use of the phrase "first time in recorded history" is a bit presumptuous, IMHO.
My guess is that this has certainly happened before but nobody able to observe and report it. Except ships at sea. And the Cat 4 storms probably sank them before they could get the word out.
It's Bush's fault!
My worry with global warming/climate change is that any vaguely unusual weather will simply be blamed on climate change instead of actually looking for reasons as to why it's happening.
Warm winter? Global warming! Cold winter? Global warming! Windy? Global warming! Calm? Global warming. Wet? Global warming!. Cold? Global warming!
With a system as chaotic as weather we can't simply explain away all future weather by simply saying "global warming did it!" just like we don't explain it by saying "god did it!"
Yes the weather on earth is going to get worse and more chaotic due to what we've done to it but using it as a blanket statement without any fact behind it is blatantly misleading and nothing but an attempt to get headlines and eyeballs.
Somewhere, right now, Roland Emmerich (Independence Day, The Day After Tomorrow, 2012) is masturbating furiously to the weather channel.
Can we just have science instead of hysteria?
OK. Here's a summary of number of hurricanes and tropical storms, as of 2011 (about the latest good data I can find):
www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/tropical-cyclones/201113
I'm not sure I can distinguish a trend from the noise.
But on the other hand, I haven't ever seen a prediction telling me that I should be able to see the trend. Here's what NOAA says:
www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes
"It is premature to conclude that human activities--and particularly greenhouse gas emissions that cause global warming--have already had a detectable impact on Atlantic hurricane activity."
And here what the Center for Climate and Energy Impacts says:
www.c2es.org/science-impacts/extreme-weather/hurricanes
"It’s unclear whether climate change will increase or decrease the number of hurricanes, but warmer ocean surface temperatures and higher sea levels are expected to intensify their impacts."
1. Make dire prediction
2. Wait long enough
3. Say, "See? I told you so!"
"Climatologists have been warning that climate change may produce more extreme weather situations"
Wait-- does this mean "Climatologists have been warning that climate change may produce more (extreme weather situations)" or does it mean "Climatologists have been warning that climate change may produce (more extreme) (weather situations)"
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Recorded history isn't that long. If you start with a conclusion, then you are always going to find evidence for it.
There is some probability of such events happening with OR without climate change.
https://twitter.com/StealthMou... -- Sneak peak.
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This particular typo is especially fun to pun. https://twitter.com/StealthMou... -- Sneak peak.
- Holy crap, I've got MOD points! Who thought that was a good idea.
Geez, how many cat 4 and even cat 5 hurricanes out over the middle of the ocean weaken before they hit land? It sure seems every few years we're told of these "monster storm of century", and they weaken before they hit land.
Maybe such strong storms have always been there out in the middle of the ocean, but we just didn't have the means to measure them, if we even knew they existed....
The implication is that this is the first time this has happened... when in fact it was merely the first time it was SEEN to happen.
A bunch of hurricanes forming out at sea which is something you could only see from space in the first place.
Golf clap for the editors. Nice try.
This is akin to the talks about how "cancer rates are going up in the third world"... or something of that nature when really what is happening is that "DETECTION rates of cancer going up in the third world" You have no idea what the cancer rate was before that.
Here is a fundemental problem we're having in the 21st century. We have more access to data and infomation and analytics than we've had since ever. But the education of people to understand what the data actually means is shockingly poor.
Journalists are just about the worst. Literally kill yourselves if you fail to grasp the distinction between correlation and causation... I'll wait for about 98 percent of you to off yourselves.
But politicians make this mistake all the time... sometimes intentionally which is also unacceptable.
And then you see some scientists doing it either because they're ignorant which is something people don't think scientists can be... but they're demonstrably ignorant when they don't grasp the distinction between causation and correlation which has been shown to be something they didn't understand on many occasions... Completely unacceptable. And then you'll see them sometimes do it intentionally to make their papers sound more interesting.
How many papers should be saying something along the lines of "variable X appears to move in conjunction with variable Y"... as opposed to the all too common "variable X went up because variable Y went up"... Never mind that they were unable to actually establish that anywhere in their paper.
So many papers boil down to something stupid like "Sniffles cause colds because people with more sniffles tend to have colds."
That's correlation, fucktards.
Logic, motherfucker.
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Unless you are Obama, for whom history began on January 20, 2009, the day on which the rise of the seas was stopped and the healing of the earth begun
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"3 major hurricanes at once for the first time on record!" See the key words "on record". Before we started keeping records the climate was always the same never changing. We should have never started keeping records.That way the climate would never be changing. Cause everyone knows the climate never changed the world was perfect.
It's the first time we've seen four Category 4 hurricanes - in a huge ocean that was never adequately surveyed before weather satellites.
Which were first launched in 1959.
Real coverage - able to see and accurately categorize those big storms - wasn't until the late 1960s to early 1970s.
Its true, I did some tree ring analysis of 3 trees from Siberia and thats what they showed.
Are you sick of this constant 'climate change' bullshit? Every. Single. Day.
There is no such thing as 'catastrophic man-made global warming', so the fraudsters responsible for this crap renamed it 'climate change', and then started using that term instead of 'catastrophic man-made global warming', hoping you would think it means the same thing - when obviously it DOESN'T. Why would they use the meaningless term 'climate change' instead of 'catastrophic man-made global warming', if 'global warming' was actually real, and caused by man?
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Cue the usual conga line of denialist morons, same old debunked paranoid claims.
I used to respond with facts, but denialists are so delusional they don't care about facts.
They trot out the ludicrous "the scientists are corrupt" line as it's the only way they can make their utter denial of the obvious in any way tenable.
The real shock is one expects that posters here would be of reasonable intelligence, all that proves is you can be intelligent and utterly stupid at the same time.
How cool is that! Last week I farted, and now there are hurricanes. I think that's called the Lorenz Butterfly Effect.
Except ships at sea. And the Cat 4 storms probably sank them before they could get the word out.
Ships at see tried really hard not to be close enough to any storm to get any sort of grasp of the wind speed within. The captain didnt say "That storm on the horizon doesn't look that bad from here. Lets sail towards it." That sort of captain gets thrown overboard.
Even today our largest military ships sail directly away from major storms.
"His name was James Damore."
These hurricanes now come in family editions. How about Fred, Wilma, and Barney?
"El Niño" Chris Farley
You're welcome.
"A plan fiendishly clever in its intricacies"- Homer Simpson
Between all these new hurricanes and unusually warm water off of California, wonder when Southern California will experience it's first hurricane on land?
...three Category 4 hurricanes..."
Wrong. The Saffir-Simpson hurricane scale was only ivpnented in 1971. Satellite clocking of hurricane wind speeds -- the sole metric of that scale -- has only been available since 1977. Before then the only hurricane speed measurements were on land and ships.
Recorded history goes back much farther than that. Like 6,000 years, give or take.
Slashdot, please correct the story.
"Climatologists have been warning that climate change may produce more extreme weather situations"
Instead, it was less extreme. No hurricane has made landfall in the US in over a decade. That's actually fairly uncommon.
Note it's not "worse".
Note they've never made a prediction that came true, ever. Check for yourself
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More heat = more energy = more extreme weather.
All it contained was hate and loathing for people smarter than the poster. And, I guess, also for those who modded it up.
Or is it just something that you really don't understand?
Climate is made of weather.
Get it now?
Now, what weather does a tropical climate have? Now, what weather does a temperate climate have? How do you tell with one weather event which climate you are in? Now, how do you tell which CLIMATE you are experiencing?
You, however, are deliberately clueless on this issue and wish to remain so and will continue to whine and bitch and moan all so you don't have to feel guilty for anything. Because you're a precious special little flower and we're not allowed to hurt your feelings or offend you by something so gauche as "blaming" you for something.
Not what some insane fantasist IMAGINES he is saying.
There isn't one single tree in the proxy reconstruction.
"How long have we had the capability of even "seeing" this?" Ever since the development of the eye.
I thought the ones in the Pacific were typhoons?
Climate change will mean fewer hurricanes NOT more; unless it's global cooling you're worrying about, not global warming. Don't take some fascist journalists word; ask a climatologist!
To be followed by, I dunno, the end of weather?