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The Politics of Star Trek

smitty_one_each writes: Timothy Sandefur, a lawyer at the Pacific Legal Foundation has written a breezy overview of the politics of the little-known show Star Trek. His thesis: "...the key to Star Trek's longevity and cultural penetration was its seriousness of purpose, originally inspired by creator Gene Roddenberry's science fiction vision. Modeled on Gulliver's Travels, the series was meant as an opportunity for social commentary, and it succeeded ingeniously, with episodes scripted by some of the era's finest science fiction writers. Yet the development of Star Trek's moral and political tone over 50 years also traces the strange decline of American liberalism since the Kennedy era." The article traces through episodes at each phase of the franchise, exploring literary allusions and lamenting that "Star Trek's latest iterations — the 'reboot' films directed by J.J. Abrams — shrug at the franchise's former philosophical depth."

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  1. Not many morals in the federation really by sectokia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have always thought that the federation was a communist society. We are told that they don't need money. But the two fundamental rules of economics are:
    1. We are in a universe of scarcity
    2. People have ever increasing unlimited desires and wants

    In the federation, we are told that everyone gets what they need, yet we constantly see scarcity everywhere. There is scarcity of engergy, transporter credits and limitations. There is an almost endless list of things people can gain credits and perks for. Then there is the huge amount of laws and regulations. Even trading and using something as money is illegal.

    The federation has never been liberal, it has always been communist. It has just been hidden behind a higher level of technology.

    1. Re:Not many morals in the federation really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It was pretty liberal, except when it wasn't. You never get uniformity with a random collection of episode writers. But that wasn't the issue. People just got sick of the "Prime Directive," I think.

      I prefer the Doctor Who/Tom Baker take on it from a few years later.
      "Don't interfere? Why not interfere? Always do what you're best at, that's what I say!"

    2. Re:Not many morals in the federation really by rtb61 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A correction, the majority of people do not have "ever increasing unlimited desires and wants", only a tiny minority. It only seems like more because the unlimited greed types are extremely noisy and attention seeking about it and of course main stream media applaudes it because that is who they are and what they sell. The majority are happy with enough, if not, the system would collapse very quickly and extremely brutally.

      So the only logical premise for 'Star Trek' culture is the prior elimination of the genetically damaged, narcissists and psychopaths (narcissists and psychopaths being portrayed as humans coming from primitive non-federation planets).

      Star Trek was redone by a second stage director as a cheetos Saturday morning crowd special, all disjointed action with little story and the PR slugs just come up with 'reboot' as a nerd/geek term to brand their really dumb scifi spectacular. How well did the bullshit marketing and branding work, hmm, just one movie latter and pretty much all other content outlets just dead with disinterest killed by a reboot to the arse by second set story tellers (no story just empty action, even the PR douche marketing term 'reboot' has been killed by Jerk Jerk A's Star Trek).

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    3. Re:Not many morals in the federation really by TWX · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't know that I'd be that concerned about a rationing of Transporter Credits. That would be like if now, air transport were free but one was only allowed to use it so often; it would in-part be a function to limit demand to the available supply.

      It's a lot more of an academia-universe in how I see it- there are several stories where things are being done by otherwise ordinary people becuase they proposed an idea and are being given the resources to pursue it. That indicates that despite there possibly being limits on resources, those limits are in place to prevent wasteful consumption more than because real scarcity limits are causing strife. If anything, in DS9 episodes, Sisko's father is shown to be a successful New Orleans restauranteur despite being a little crazy and very combative; if society were Communist and dealing with scarcity I don't think he'd have access to the resources to make that happen.

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    4. Re:Not many morals in the federation really by ThatAblaze · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I always took the lack of money thing to mean that the show was following a military vessel, and that the "star fleet" military had a rule against it's members using money. I know that is not exactly what they claimed was happening, but all their actions seemed to indicate that if you weren't in star fleet then you had and used money. I seem to remember a science outpost that talked about not having enough funding to buy all the equipment they wanted.

      DS9 talked about money all the time.

    5. Re:Not many morals in the federation really by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Insightful

      i never understood this braindead attitude where the only systems in the world are social darwinistic capitalism, and communism

      nothing in between

      when of course there are thousands of systems in between. in fact the richest and happiest countries in the world, the nordic countries, pretty well balance social safety nets and capitalism. that's actually the ideal society

      but if you view everything as capitalism and communism, nothing else, your ideology and philosophy is childish and facile. you haven't given an intellectually honest thought to the subject matter you inject your uneducated opinion into. you're a propaganda victim

      this not a baseless insult

      you present it as binary: capitalism or communism. when it obviously isn't binary. there are thousands of shades in between, in fact, the best system most definitely is not pure capitalism. objectively, as a function of the most successful societies today, and their economic and political systems

      furthermore, the economic, political, social, and cultural systems of the federation are categorically, factually, not communist. define communism. then define the federation. and they do not match, they are far apart

      but because it is not pure capitalism, you have to call it communism. because those are the only two extremes you understand. you're a simpleton, an ignorant on the topic

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    6. Re:Not many morals in the federation really by 0123456 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But the left keep claiming that Star Trek is a 'post-scarcity society'. In a post-scarcity society, you just click your fingers and you have a boat. You click your fingers, and you have a starship.

      That's what 'post-scarcity' means. If you can't click your fingers and have a fleet of starships so vast that they block out the stars, you don't live in a post-scarcity society.

      (Of course, as any sane person knows, 'post-scarcity' is just a left-wing codeword for Communism. Which, as those sane people know, is an economic system where you queue up for six hours because there's a rumour the store may have toilet paper, then get trampled to death in the rush when they open the doors.)

    7. Re:Not many morals in the federation really by shani · · Score: 4, Insightful

      An automatic dishwasher is more for sanitizing than removing the mechanical aspects of hand washing.

      There are two schools of thought about dishwashers. This is one.

      The other schools is that a dishwasher is to replace hand washing.

      I had a friend who was of the 2nd school, and his girlfriend was of the 1st school. He basically tied her down to a chair, loaded the dishwasher his way - without pre-washing, just shoving everything in. He started it.

      They waited.

      In the end, they opened it... AND THE DISHES WERE CLEAN.

      I recommend you try the experiment. It might not work with your dishwasher (especially if you are an American and have a rental property, as landlords in the US put in the cheapest shit they can). But it might!!! Think of the hours of your life you'll get back....

    8. Re:Not many morals in the federation really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Bullshit.

      Post-scarcity is people are not homeless or have no food and they don't fight for resources. They are not chained to their job or they get kicked out of their 1-BR apartment.

      Some people like to serve others and be thanked for their service. Others like to cook. Others want to explore. Or do research in some field. But this doesn't mean everyone gets what they want. They only get what they need and have options open to what they want.

      If you think everyone would just sit on their asses and mooch off the replicators, I think you are wrong. Never mind that in Star Trek such behaviour is looked as a mental illness and generally, it tends to be.

      I don't give a shit if you want to call it "communism" or "star trek economy" or "post-consumerism" or "post-scarcity". The ideals are the same. People don't start wars because there isn't enough water in Darfur to feed everyone there. People don't start wars in Middle East to control resources there. That's what post-scarcity economy means.

      And if it means that super-rich no longer exist, that's fine too. Everyone is their own person for their own reasons. And if that's not freedom, I don't know what is.

    9. Re:Not many morals in the federation really by circletimessquare · · Score: 1, Insightful

      when i describe a kind of facile simpleton who only understands low iq binary extremes, it helps not to enter the conversation embodying that exact socially retarded propaganda victim

      you don't understand the topic. you're a dimwitted tool hand painting in kindergarten class. that is the level of your understanding of this topic you inject your ignorance into

      educate yourself, then develop an actual valid opinion

      good luck

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    10. Re:Not many morals in the federation really by ThatAblaze · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, the old "we don't use money because we have technology that gives us basic resources on request. Ohh.. but we do employ an 'advanced system of bartering' if you want anything exotic or that anyone else hasn't chosen to provide for free. Also, power is not free, the plants have to be purchased.. unless you happen to be aboard a military vessel or in an advanced area that has a program to give that stuff away.. but the whole economy has to be propped up by a much larger network of money using sub-societies that can feed resources into the non-money using portion."

      So, in conclusion: Star Fleet = Burning Man.

  2. The people asked for Circuses... by SeaFox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The article traces through episodes at each phase of the franchise, exploring literary allusions and lamenting that "Star Trek's latest iterations — the 'reboot' films directed by J.J. Abrams — shrug at the franchise's former philosophical depth."

    Because at that point it stopped trying to be real science fiction. It was just another franchise to be used for monetary gain by the rights-holders. So, out with any social commentary, no deep thinking -- this is Summer! It's time for an action flick -- in SPAAAAAAAACE!

  3. What's left? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Inclusion when you parrot the left's buzzwords and phrases and condemnation and vitriolic hatred when you don't?
    Grievance politics?
    Social policy based more on taking from people who have resources than on providing for those who need them?
    Hairshirt environmentalism that never gives a thought to what's best for people?
    Foreign policy nostrums that appeal to peaceniks and partisan opportunists but protect no one?
    Protection of fashionable human rights and authoritarian disregard for others?

    No one wants to watch your space show about microaggressions and about redistributing a middle class worker's paycheck to pay for an upper-middle-class student's PhD classes on transgender studies.

  4. Devil in the Dark by mtrachtenberg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Gene L. Coon episode The Devil in the Dark, in which a bunch of miners have come under attack by a strange stone-like creature, made an indelible impression on me, certainly more than any bit of religious scripture I've encountered. The lessons in that magnificent episode included the need to understand the other, the danger of assuming you are in the right, the dangers of an ill-educated mob, and the power of fear. I wish W and President Cheney had been forced to watch it before they were unleashed on the world.

  5. Re:Whatever by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Reading this post demonstrates Americans have absolutely no idea what socialism is.

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  6. Re:Wrong! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Don't be sorry. Star Trek is pretty shitty. It's not very fun, it's not very sci-fi, it's not very funny, and it's not very interesting.

    what the hell is wrong with you?
    how can you say that "Star Trek is not very sic-fi"?

      Its had an immense role in what can be defined as sci-fi or not. even if i weren't a fan of TOS and TNG and even Voyager i would be able to plainly see that Star Trek was and incredible show. yes Shatner wasn't the greatest actor but give the rest of the show credit, they wouldn't have so many spin offs if they weren't successful.

  7. Horseshit by RubberDogBone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Much of what people think of when they think about Star Trek's grand concepts of the Federation of Planets and many other things were ideas thought up by Gene Coon, not Roddenberry. Bob Justman also had a hand in those ideas, as did D.C. Fontana and many others tossing in various tidbits.

    The book series "These are the voayges" go into extreme detail of who thought up what, which writers and directors invented things taken for canon and so on.

    An awful lot of Trek lore taken for granted happened by accident or because Coon or Justman were trying to save money. There was no grand political scheme running behind the scenes. It was all about how to tell a story without having to actually show it. So they invented stuff that could be dialog.

    The idea of having a "Starbase" came from the need to show planets per NBC but cheaply so it could be a redressed existing set, and then script mentions there's more than one base. Viola you've expanded the Star Trek universe without having to show it. Coon was a master of this stuff, dropping in mention of the Federation to explain away another loose end. He freaking invented it as a throwaway script change.

    Fontana in turn made the characters who we know them to be and kept the thing going in the right direction. She was the bullshit detector and derailed a lot of crap that would have made the show into a joke. Roddenberry mostly sat around and screwed starlets and offered up lousy script rewrites.

    The OTHER unsung hero of Star Trek is Lucille Ball, who went to bat for the show many times to keep it funded, until doing so help cost her ownership of the company. She gave her all for Star Trek, Nobody remembers it.

    These Are The Voyages books are very highly recommended for anyone who wants to know what really happened and how, It is a lot like seeing how sausage or laws are made but it's important to see how hard these people worked and what they put into the show.

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  8. Right and wrong vs. tolerance by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This article hits the nail on the head. In the 60s, there was culturally an understanding that there are some things that are right and wrong, moral and immoral. Slowly, this understanding was replaced by the notion that only tolerance matters, and the only evil is intolerance. This idea is embodied in the Prime Directive. It is fitting, reflecting our culture, that the Young Kirk movies lack any kind of notion of right and wrong OR tolerance, emphasizing only drama and special effects.

  9. He missed by sjames · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What Kirk objected to was a lack of liberty. His objection to Vaal and Landru was that they imposed themselves upon the people. The same for the plant spores. For that matter, that was his objection to the Klingons. I don't think he would object all that much to a society that voluntarily forswore technology and exploration (since apparently, the people were free to leave if they wanted) even if he might not understand it or want it for himself.

  10. Re:Wrong! by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wish more people would live-and-let-live today. So much culture seems to be based on denying others their own choices in how to live their lives when those choices are not victimizing anyone else.

    Well the problem is obviously religion. Notice that in Star Trek, there really isn't any, except when they visit some backwards planet and there's religious nuts terrorizing people somehow. Otherwise, what rational reason is there to deny other people their own choices in how to live their lives as long as they aren't victimizing anyone? It's simple: because religionists don't like it, and don't want their choices to become popular and spread. We see that today with all the anti-gay-marriage vitriol from the Christians. They just can't stand the idea that other people are marrying who they want, so they want to shut it down and take control of it. These very same people were against interracial marriages a generation or two ago, calling it an "abomination". You'd think it'd be simple: if you don't like gay marriage, don't have one. But that's not good enough for these cuckoos, they want to make sure no one else has a marriage they disapprove of either.

  11. Re:Yep, it was easy to miss by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or the subtlety of TNG episode where everyone on an alien planet is genderless, but some of them lean more towards one gender or another. Or the subtlety of the entire Ferrengi race, for that matter, which was almost a literal demonization of capitalism (greedy, deceptive, ugly, backstabbing, cowardly, and sexist to boot).

    Star Trek writers could have used a bit of restraint in creating these ham-handed scenarios and caricatures. I liked Star Trek in spite of its ridiculous political and social preaching, not because of it.

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  12. Re:Wrong! by Grishnakh · · Score: 1, Insightful

    What the heck are you talking about?

  13. Re:Wrong! by currently_awake · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A fundamental part of the USA symbolism. You have flags and songs and all sorts of symbols, to tell you that everything is true and right and you don't need to look at the man behind the curtain. Having the dog catcher and the sheriff and common clerks elected is how you know democracy is safe, and you can relax your guard and be a happy consumer.

  14. Re:Way too lib by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well as somebody who is very anti-communist and pro capitalist, I could see it star trek economics becoming reality without all of the problems inherent to communism. What any economic system sorts out is how you allocate resources to whom. Where communism ultimately fails is that it assumes that people will just always be willing to produce out of the goodness of their hearts for just any old need that somebody wants (which includes jobs that aren't fun and nobody wants to do them unless they're paid, such as being a garbage man or a janitor.)

    In Star Trek economics however, there's two problems that are solved without even needing an economy: There are no scarce resources, and there's no need for somebody to be a producer. Why? Because you've got replicators to handle your everyday goods, holodecks to entertain you, and if you want a vacation to florida, either you can holodeck there or beam over there. And since everything is made out of deuterium, there's basically an infinite supply of everything.

    We're already starting to see some of that happen. Namely, we're already starting to see "free" production in the form of robots taking over certain jobs. We're a long way off from a star trek economy because a few other things need to be solved (we don't have replicators yet, and not everything can be automatically created) but in terms of making everyday goods out of cheap materials, we're getting pretty close.

    Luddites are usually fighting this tooth and nail, but if having a lot of wealth for free (keep in mind, wealth is not money, wealth is material goods) then it's definitely better to just let automation take over anyways.

  15. Re:Way too lib by pr0nbot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your assumption seems to be that the fruits of automation, owned by the few, will somehow be shared by the many. Perhaps they will be, and we'll live in the Star Trek utopia. But I think more dystopian outcomes (extreme wealth inequality sustained through violent repression; revolution and war) to be more likely.

  16. Re:Wrong! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't know. If you can ignore laws because you believe that some group doesn't deserve the protection, then that means that robbery (the protection of people against it) can be ignored for, for example, bigoted religiotards who don't want gays having a wedding cake they make.

    If you don't want to do the job of baking cakes, DON'T BECOME A BAKER. If you do, bake cakes. If someone asks you for a cake and some hot gay sex, say yes to the cake and feel absolutely free to say no to the buttock action.

    If your religon is so strong that you CANNOT bake a cake that a gay person will be eating at their wedding, then please also obey that religion and refuse it for people who break the sabbath (saturday, not sunday), have divorced, masturbated, blasphemed, avoided taxes ("render unto caesar that which is due caesar"), eat shellfish, shaved a beard, seen a woman during her period (including himself if a customer is on her period), wearing cloths of two different fabrics, has a foreskin, and so on.

    If you picked only gays, then how does anyone know that your problem is your religion (which we could say is protected), and not your bigotry (which is not)? If you aren't obeying all the rules of your religion, then the rules you are following are not being followed because of your religion. Those rules only happen to appear in the religion, but there is no evidence you are following them because of that religion. You'd have to follow all the other laws too.

    Oh, and don't claim "New Testament!!!" because
    a) No OT, no NT. No god, no creation of the world by god, no owed obeisance to god, no original sin, therefore no sin for JC to die for, therefore no need to worship him. No heaven in fact, since that was made in the OT.
    b) Only Saint Paul was against gays. NOTHING in the teachings of JC was to repudiate and discriminate against them
    c) JC said you should sell all your stuff and follow JC. Since you're not doing that either, you're not a christian.

    d) also, if there's no god, no JC saving us, then there's no reason to hate gays anyway, since they were an issue for the OT god, and not NT JC, who has no debt owed to which we must observe his commandments for.

  17. Re:Wrong! by jellomizer · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Blaming religion for all the woes of the world, is just naive. People can bend religion to match how they are thinking about stuff at the time. The bible has a lot of teaching to push a very liberal agenda as well.
    Currently in politics the issue with abortions has split America, it is a complicated problem on many levels.
    When does human life begin. (when it genetically a new person, when particular organs develop, when it can survive on its own... )
    When it is considered a human life, when does its rights kick in. (Where does the cutoff for the rights of the mother and rights of the offspring come in)
    Many Christian religions has gone the moral safe route. Life kicks in at time of federalization, the right to live trumps all other rights.
    While it is the safe route it may not necessarily be accurate.
    Now because of this stance, political parties can join with this group as a source of easy voters. And as these groups who joined in for this cause, begin absorbing the other ideals of the political party. Then they will twist the religion where it was more neutral on the topic to become more entranced, as well pushing the political party to expand on some of the other issues it has.
    Now they are Christian groups who are far more liberal, some will support gay marriage, and abortions. So saying religion is the problem is over simplifying the issue. It is whenever a group of people join together and make a bunch of rules, is when the problem occurs.

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