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Researchers Say S. African Bones Are From Previously Unknown Human Relative
Ancient, but so far undated, remains found in a South African cave (more than 1500 pieces of bone and teeth) have been declared by the team which discovered them to represent a previously unknown kind of human relative, which they have dubbed Homo naledi. New submitter chapman writes: The human-like bones discovered in the Rising Star cave, 50km from Johannesburg, may belong to a new species of "long-legged," "pinheaded," and "gangly" human relative. Apparently the chamber in the cave where the discovery was made is so inaccessible (only 8 inches wide) that the team brought in a group of lightly-built female researchers in order to excavate the bones. Science Mag, too, describes the find as well as the controversy about the unusual publicity surrounding the exploration. The Guardian's article notes that the identification of the bones as belonging to a new species is disputed by some anthropologists, who say that based on the evidence presented so far, the bones may simply be examples of the previouly named Homo erectus.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
it's an alien.
A monkey's uncle...
The number of new species seems proportional to amount work done. We had a similar corundum in geological plate tectonics a couple decades ago. Nearly every new PhD thesis was discovering a new plate tectonic micro-plate. Finaly did what the planet astronomers did and divide them into significant ones and minor ones.
I don't see how a population whose skulls are literally half the size of a typical H. erectus skull (among many other major differences) could be seen as just another H. erectus. And not just one, potentially deformed individual, but 15 individuals with the same characteristics. And even if they were the same species, this would still be a remarkable find - so many full, intact bodies in the same location. In a weird location, and in a land far from where H. erectus was known to have lived.
You don't exist. Go away.
Her friends called her Lois.
Pinheads? They found this clan:
http://static.rogerebert.com/u...
Table-ized A.I.
Sounds pretty much like all the US Presidents.
Are you talking about a particular incident or just in general? Martian meteorites are identified by the gas trapped within them, general isotopic ratios, and a number of other factors.
You don't exist. Go away.
Any time scientific claims are released to media before peer review, suspect the results, and the motives of the researcher. [1]
[1] See cold fusion.
I would love to hear you conclusions for the dominance of certain other ethnic groups in, say, chess
Carlton S. Coon has a less than stellar reputation among anthropologists and to cite his work as representative of the "facts" of anthropology is a disservice, to put it mildly. Hos views were used be segregationists to "prove" Blacks were inferior to whites. His original book on race deviated from the consensus reached by anthropologists (and the DNA evidence, among others) when he claimed that Whites were descended from Chimpanzees, Blacks from Gorillas, and Asians from the Orangutan. I don;t thoink you will be able to find any contemporary competent anthropologists who would make the kinds of claims you are making here supporting Coon, whose ideas have been thoroughly discredited in anthropological circles.
How about a moderation of -1 pedantic.
I don't know about blacks, or whites, or whatever, but you sure are inferior in your bigotry.
What of these lightly-built female researchers? Scantily clad Lara Croft types? Mmmm?
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Don't watch those vids, they are a waste of time and generally based on the idea that the mere possibility of constructing a valid argument is enough to make it sound.
I realize that to an extent. I neither take them as "the word of 'GOD'", nor as complete idiocy - merely as possibles & something to speculate about as "food for thought".
APK
P.S.=> The 2nd half of what I wrote last post IS the most important part though, from that post's 'p.s.' section - & it's based on history + mankind's nature itself (the BAD part, with what I call "viruses of the spirit" behind it, in greed mainly)... apk
Homo Florensis is the Hobbit.
Now bones of oddly shaped humanoid creatures found piled in the bottom of a cave?
A. Balin and his Dwarves in Moria.
B. Gollum's leftover Orc bones in his original cave before Bilbo met him.
I'm not saying that other 'FACTS' are not bull but FACT #28 is easy to prove wrong: Kenyan long distance runners.
"We just dug up some bones in the family plot..."
"Was it uncle Frank?"
"No, uncle Frank is buried in the North end..."
"Was it uncle Sal?"
"No, uncle Sal is in the South end. There wasn't supposed to be anyone buried in the west end..."
"Are you sure it wasn't aunt Daisy's chimp?"
"No, no, it's definitely a human..."
"So you're saying... It's A Previously Unknown Human Relative?!?"
The ones on reptilian lizard people are really funny. Most conspiracy videos are Except for the ones with obviously mentally ill people. Those are kinda sad.
There is no such thing as more or less evolved. There is no end goal to evolution.
My precious!
Political correctness is really just herd psychology pushed by insecure people who desperately seek social conformity.
"His views were used by segregationists". Worse he colluded with segregationists and actively aided them while ignoring his scientific objectivity.
Sorry, teleporters just kill you and then make a copy. A perfect, soul-less copy.
Then again we are responding to a racist troll.
Sorry, teleporters just kill you and then make a copy. A perfect, soul-less copy.
Pinheaded? Must be Bennett's ancestors...
Evolution doesn't have a direction, so saying some species is "ahead" or "behind" another is ridiculous. We are all the product of some 3 billion years' worth of evolution from the first replicating organisms.
If caucasions are 200,000 years differently adapted than africans, it's because 200,000 years ago their ancestors moved to a different environment which required those different adaptations to survive in, while others (the smart ones?) stayed behind in an environment they were already suited to.
Some are outrageous, & definitely delivered by folks with some "issues" - I personally tend to "filter those out".
APK
P.S.=> I take them all with a grain of salt, but I don't COMPLETELY discount many of them totally... apk
>pinheaded
CTRL-F "zippy"
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BMO
See subject: ... on youtube regarding odd shaped skulled peoples who're said to have been an "alien overlord" of early civilizations, creating the pattern for them (both technologically & culturally).
* I don't KNOW what to believe on that account - I can say it might be a possible, but then again, it may NOT be. I wasn't there to witness it myself...
APK
P.S.=> In those same videos, there's accounts of cultures 'binding' various children's skulls to shape them thus also (pretty much stating they were trying to be "like their Gods" & I do believe this much though, based on history & patterns of humanity - we INVENT OUR OWN "GODS", & generally to cow the populace via "the opiate of the masses" to be abused by said "ruling classes" by giving their subordinate constituencies 'hope for an afterlife' - kind of like the 10 commandments are (though I hate saying that) - "you be good & do these things, you will go to 'heaven'"...
Only problem is, the ones doing the ruling DON'T FOLLOW THOSE RULES THEMSELVES & break those commandments daily... - that's right!
Those "rulers" are probably thinking "that's right CHUMPS - you keep being 'good' & GOOD SLAVES while we take over, keeping you DOWN, simply because you follow those rules that WE invented to rule over your dumb asses with"...
Of course, I also believe such rules ARE GOOD & are the foundations of the social contracts that allow for orderly societies!
(HOWEVER: Some asshole always ALWAYS comes along & breaks them, forcing others' hands to do so as well in order to survive, rotting the entire barrel of apples & the principles behind "the general good")... apk
See subject, & realize 1 thing - I'll keep posting it for 2 reasons: 1st is to spite your ass, & 2nd is to see you blow thru your modpoints, exhausting them... why?
Well - because I can! I have NO LIMITS in my abilities to post/repost as AC (as most do @ 10 per day) - whereas by way of comparison, you DO have limits on your modpoints.
* So, believe me, I'll win here, & you WILL lose.
APK
P.S.=> Keep it up - I figure I'm doing some other slob a service by burning you out of your modpoints & running you dry of them, so you can't do it to others... apk
I'm more interested in knowing how any modern human squeezed through a 25cm and 20cm pathway to the cave. Wearing headlamps and helmets or not, unless they had contortionist scientists?
See subject, & realize 1 thing - I'll keep posting it for 2 reasons: 1st is to spite your ass, & 2nd is to see you blow thru your modpoints, exhausting them... why?
Well - because I can! I have NO LIMITS in my abilities to post/repost as AC (as most do @ 10 per day) - whereas by way of comparison, you DO have limits on your modpoints.
* So, believe me, I'll win here, & you WILL lose!
APK
P.S.=> Keep it up - I figure I'm doing some other slob a service by burning you out of your modpoints & running you dry of them, so you can't do it to others... apk
See subject, & realize 1 thing - I'll keep posting it for 2 reasons: 1st is to spite your ass, & 2nd is to see you blow thru your modpoints, exhausting them... why?
Well - because I can! I have NO LIMITS in my abilities to post/repost as AC (as most do @ 10 per day) - whereas by way of comparison, you DO have limits on your modpoints.
* So, believe me - I'll win here, & you WILL lose.
APK
P.S.=> Keep it up - I figure I'm doing some other slob a service by burning you out of your modpoints & running you dry of them, so you can't do it to others... apk
The end goal of evolution is survival and the most evolved are those genes that are still around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism
I'll bet that's what they'd claim.
Carlton S. Coon
Pure comedy gold.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it