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Grady Martin writes: I got a new job. Everything about it is perfect, except for one thing: The overwhelming majority of affordable housing within driving distance lies in an area known for its high crime rate. A home security system would afford some peace of mind, and a system whose code I could tinker with would afford even more. What Linux-based options are available? What experience do you have with such systems?

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  1. Needs to be Linux? by alvieboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > "lies in an area known for its high crime rate. A home security system would afford some peace of mind"

    Don't know if any runs Linux (and I sincerly doubt it), but perhaps getting a Doggie would help. For sure, you'll get a few false positives, but overall it's the best security you can get. :)

    And yes, they bark really loud.

    Alvie

    1. Re: Needs to be Linux? by TheMeuge · · Score: 2

      It's a terrible idea to live in a bad area, generally I would prefer to commute further.
      In terms of getting a home security system, get one that works. If you want an independent surveillance system use Synology, but make sure the NAS is located in the party of the house that won't be searched for valuables such as an entry hallway closet. However, in home security I'm not sure DYI is a wise route.

    2. Re: Needs to be Linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Zoneminder

    3. Re:Needs to be Linux? by alvieboy · · Score: 2

      > My neighbour saw me climb to an open window and called the cops.

      Your dog would have recognised you.

      Yes, you're right regarding the overall cost and maintenance. But a Doggie is also your friend, cheers you whenever you get home, misses you whenever you leave.

      This is priceless.

    4. Re:Needs to be Linux? by Luthair · · Score: 3, Funny

      collar $5

      bag of kibble $20

      picking up poop for 15-years, priceless

    5. Re:Needs to be Linux? by chmod+a+x+mojo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Haven't you been reading the LKML? There is a bug in the 3.x kernel code that makes booting Linux on dogs fail, and Linus dropped support.

      I personally would go for a security Badger, preferably a dead one so as not to have to feed it. The old install method found here can still be adapted to a modern kernel and userland with a few easy compiles, with several open source drivers available for modern networking hardware as well.

      Badgers are also much more vicious than non specialized dogs.

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    6. Re: Needs to be Linux? by TheCarp · · Score: 2

      > It's a terrible idea to live in a bad area, generally I would prefer to commute further.

      Incorrect, because it often means property values will make the largest climb once young professionals move in for the shorter commute and price out the poor people from the neighborhood. I can think of a few places where houses going for 250k when I was a kid are 1.2m now, and guess what....when I was a kid, they were known for being a bit more crime but nice locations for commutes.

      Lol now they are being buried into the city and new areas to the outside will have the nice commutes and.....the cycle continues.

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    7. Re:Needs to be Linux? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2

      getting up every morning, getting dressed to walk the dog. rain or snow or heat, you have to do it. often twice a day.

      little freedom to stay out late or travel.

      things get chewed and broken at home.

      there is the house-breaking time at the start.

      pet doctor bills. pet food (stuff is heavy, too).

      I like dogs but its definitely not a solution for everyone!

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    8. Re: Needs to be Linux? by LifesABeach · · Score: 2

      Poor A/C, I'm told one shouldn't self medicate. High Crime means, a lot of crime seems to happen in a certain area. So if one were to consider a security system, then one is paying to watch the bad guys jack their new gear, in real time. I would suggest a hidden high resolution with a whole lot of frames per second that transmits to a cloud service so that at least you know who jacked your gear when you report this repeat event to the police.

      Be smart and don't put a sign on your door that basically states, "expensive security gear inside." It may work for intel, it will definitely not work for you.

    9. Re:Needs to be Linux? by LifesABeach · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Caution, big teeth there exists monotonically increasing big poop.

    10. Re:Needs to be Linux? by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, a badger is easy to deal with, you just rub their belly until they stop eating your fingers.
      What you want is a moose.
      A moose once bit my sister...
      There is nothing worse than a moose running "Malevolent Moose"!
      Note that you will need to put about two feet of water in your living room so move your electrical outlets accordingly.
      While you don't have to walk a moose, you do have to get the hell out of the way once in a while...
      It's kind of like living with a pissed off Volkswagen.

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  2. ZoneMinder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://www.zoneminder.com/ - but best put the PC in a panic room, roofspace or other inaccessible area. And ship footage off site continuously.

    1. Re:ZoneMinder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      10 years ago, I assembled a crude Linux DVR using ZoneMinder. I kludged together Chinese video cards and various cameras. It was a neat and inexpensive system, and I enjoyed the project. But, it was crude, finicky and not very reliable which meant it required constant monitoring and care. But, for years, anything better or off the shelf would have cost thousands or tens of thousands of dollars.

      Today, you can buy an off the shelf 1080p DVR system with 8 night vision cameras(!) for under $1,000. These systems are fire and forget. They work flawlessly, have tons of features, and are very reliable.

      Meanwhile, Zoneminder hasn't changed much since 10 years ago. It's still a bodged together mess.

    2. Re:ZoneMinder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've had horrible luck with those DVRs, not recording, not rotating videos properly, recording all of the time even when on motion settings, failing to send alerts, being unable to use sort of modern browser (I had to keep an IE6 VM around to manage one). ZoneMinder I haven't bothered to look at for a couple of years but I agree about it being a mess the last time I did.

      I'm not sure if Bluecherry's DVR software is any better but it is Linux compatible. Ubiquiti isn't horrible and runs on linux, but does lock in to their cameras which prevents me from recommending it in most cases. Most DVRs I do now are either Milestone or BlueIris with a Windows 7 base.

      Synology, QNAP and several other NAS vendors actually do have a DVR system built in which may be sufficient for what is needed.

      Camera side Dahua and Hikvision make decent quality cameras on the cheap (their firmware interface is often horrible however) - ACTi is what I tend to use for higher end options (again interface on camera = horrible). Once you get them setup on your DVR (nvr) you shouldn't really need to get in to the camera interface again. I always put the cameras on their own private vlan with the NVR being dual homed so it can send out alerts and let you view cameras remotely.

  3. Just Don't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Home security systems is a "problem" that has been completely solved in hardware. No DIY system, Linux or otherwise will compare in regards to available sensors, reliability, speed, battery backup, cellular backup, and more of a hardware panel. Many/most people want remote monitoring and thus pay for it. People ignore alarm sirens. What's the point of annoying your neighbors with noise while the crook takes his time packing your stuff into his van? You being on Slashdot means you'll want free, so I'll skip the subscription monitoring services.

    DSC makes rock solid and inexpensive hardware systems. If you want to roll you own monitoring/alerting DSC systems can be integrated with other stuff including your own crappy and broken Linux implementable. You can also integrate a DCS panel with a home automation system like Vera or openHAB.

    Home made security systems are not cost effective, reliable, effective, or worth the effort.

    1. Re:Just Don't by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Home security systems is a "problem" that has been completely solved in hardware. No DIY system, Linux or otherwise will compare in regards to available sensors, reliability, speed, battery backup, cellular backup, and more of a hardware panel.

      As someone who has installed dozens of different security systems, I agree wholeheartedly. DO NOT go with half-baked DIY system.

      Look for multi-zone systems by Moose, Ademco, Honeywell, or other security companies. I don't recommend wireless systems for multiple reasons- they can be jammed and the batteries go dead at the worst possible times. If you absolutely have to use wireless components, use the minimum possible and hard-wire the rest.

      Look for systems that have "home" and "away" modes.
      Mount the panel in a secured location (locked closet).
      Run the siren wires through metal pipe all the way to the siren (especially outside). Your alarm system will be useless if a $2 pair of wire cutters can be used to clip the siren wires.
      Mount the siren high up in an inaccessible location or cage it.

      There's a lot more to it than this, but don't go cheap, avoid wireless if possible, and get a solid, programmable system.

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    2. Re:Just Don't by Harlequin80 · · Score: 2

      Absolutely agree. And get a professional to do the install.

      You are talking about a commodity system that has been done a gazillion times before. Pay a professional to come out, quote and install a system. Get your cameras in the right place, get your motion detectors in the right place, get your panels in the right place. And quite frankly pay your subscription to have your system monitored.

      I'm assuming you will be having house insurance, so consider it part of the insurance costs.

      Then most importantly, don't make your house an obvious target. If people can walk past your house and see your BMW in the driveway, your $85,000 Macbook in the lounge window and your wife's handbag on the table you are going to get burgled.

  4. Worry about everything else first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Moved to a high crime area a decade ago and to this day have only had one issue (car break-in after leaving stuff visible). No home security system, no guns. In general, pull your head our of your arse and pay attention to your surroundings. Don't walk around flashing you iPad that's connected to your home sec system. Don't have ear-buds in listening to the hipster mix of the day. Everyone of my neighbors that's had issues was either 1. dealing drugs or 2. walking around flashing electronics and ignoring the world around them. Meet your neighbors, be friendly, be engaged.

    1. Re:Worry about everything else first by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2

      here's a tip: if you have a nice car stereo (or even if its not nice but you tend to play it loud), lower the volume way down (or turn it off) as you START to approach your destination or parking area.

      what you have been doing is advertising to the locals that you have a nice radio inside. even if you don't.

      by remembering to turn it off before you even get close to the destination, you remove one thing that can cause you to come back to broken windows.

      similarly, don't work on your car audio system in open public areas (even your home, if its an apartment or condo complex). sadly, I did that once (nice area; usually safe) and the very next day, yup, broken windows in the car and my work was ruined. that was the last time I ever worked on my audio system in the common parking lot at my complex. sad that you can't even do such things anymore without 'bad eyes' seeing you do it, but that's the world we now live in.

      alright, one more car audio tip: consider hiding your real radio behind a fake factory face plate. I did that (have a stupid looking factory double din cassette radio face). took that factory radio, removed it, unscrewed the front, glued on the knobs and lcd display and made it look quite real again. but its a thin bezel and it fits snugly in the factory hole by friction; and the real unit is behind it, inset, and you simply remove the fake faceplace, put it on the center console (etc) and adjust your real radio during the drive. when at home, simply put the face back over the hole and no one's the wiser. for the past 10 years, I have not had any break-ins. there's no reason; all they see is a factory flush faceplace and no one is dumb enough to steal a factory double din cassette head unit anymore ;) stealth install was the key. SHOW NOTHING CUSTOM inside the car. give them no reason to give your car a 2nd look.

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    2. Re:Worry about everything else first by jonwil · · Score: 2

      A number of car audio systems that I have seen have removable face plates. Thief looks in, sees that the faceplate has been removed and will then realize the unit is worthless to resell and will move on.

  5. No answer here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think OP sabotaged himself by giving Slashdot a context - one they could pull apart instead of answering his questions.

    "Hi Slashdot. I'm looking to install a home security system and wanted to know if any of you are familiar with Linux-based implementations. Thanks."

    Instead, now all you have is people telling you alternatives to security systems (commuting further, changing jobs, blah blah blah).

    Good luck with your new home/job.

  6. Monitoring isn't peace of mind. by holophrastic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you're constantly checking your cameras and your feeds, and waiting for notifications of motion, that ain't peace of mind. Peace of mind is specifically the opposite -- i.e. not checking, not being notified, not being worried that every time you're underground or in an area of poor reception that someone is breaking into your home.

    Peace of mind is knowing that it's someone else's problem. That means that the alarm doesn't go to you, it goes to someone else, like an alarm monitoring company, and that they'll deal with the problem -- including calling you as much as it takes to reach you. That means you can leave, go on vacation, go to the movies, and not care.

    Especially considering that high crime rate is less of a problem when you aren't home -- because you aren't in any danger.

    Just put up entry contacts -- doors, windows, glass-breaks. Motion sensors are generally irrelevant if you have any ambulatory pets. Then let it be someone else's problems. Cameras fight insurance fraud, but do nothing in terms of security, unless you've got someone watching the feeds.

    And damn it, befriend your neighbours, ensure that they know your routines and your vacation schedules.

    Beyond that, you aren't going to stop Ethan Hunt, no matter what you do.

    1. Re:Monitoring isn't peace of mind. by deathguppie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My house was broken into with the alarm blaring. It's happened to a couple of my neighbors too. Someone pulls up they smash in the front door. Then spend about 30 seconds rifling through the house looking for valuables and then get in their car and run. The security system did nothing but make noise, and yes the cops were called. So what. Even if they would have been able to react immediately they would never have been able to get here in time.

      So I put up some cameras in places outside, totally visible in areas that you can't walk around behind them. I have a small linux based home server/backup system that is built into a cabinet downstairs anyway, so I put zoneminder on it. If someone actually enters the house I get a message, and I can call the police. But it doesn't happen. No one wants to walk up in front of the cameras, and yes I know they could wear balaclavas or some crap, but they can't walk around the neighborhood like that without someone calling the cops, and the whole idea is to be inconspicuous.

      There is no sure fire cure, and anyone who really want's in will get in. The idea is to make it more difficult than it's worth.

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    2. Re:Monitoring isn't peace of mind. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hmm, just park a car with no wheels and an oil puddle underneath in front, put plastic garden furniture in your house, smash a couple of the windows and leave the door unlocked. If there is nothing of value inside, then nothing will get stolen. Peeing at the garden gate will also help to discourage visitors.

    3. Re:Monitoring isn't peace of mind. by swillden · · Score: 2

      My house was broken into with the alarm blaring. It's happened to a couple of my neighbors too. Someone pulls up they smash in the front door. Then spend about 30 seconds rifling through the house looking for valuables and then get in their car and run. The security system did nothing but make noise, and yes the cops were called. So what. Even if they would have been able to react immediately they would never have been able to get here in time.

      I'm not dismissing the value of your camera solution, but I think you're overlooking the value of the alarm system. It turned what could have been a thorough burglary into a 30-second smash and grab. That plus arranging for your most valuable stuff to be too hard to find and/or grab in 30 seconds means that your most valuable stuff is safe.

      Good security (physical or electronic) doesn't have to be impenetrable to provide significant value. Mitigation strategies, approaches that just limit the risk and damage, still have significant value, and your alarm system did that. Deterrent strategies (like your cameras) are also good. Layered strategies that include deterrence, penetration resistance, damage mitigation and potential loss recovery are best of all.

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    4. Re:Monitoring isn't peace of mind. by holophrastic · · Score: 2

      I think you've just found the values of fake cameras. Not real cameras. The bad guys can't see the feeds.

      And now, you're constantly watching your own cameras, worrying about your home when you're away, and worrying about your data reception all the time. It's now your responsibility, your duty, your job, to watch your house 24/7/52+1.

    5. Re:Monitoring isn't peace of mind. by ledow · · Score: 2

      Sounds like what you really want is a smoke system connected to the alarm.

      Rather than alarms (which do nothing unless they alarm someone who's guaranteed to come running in time - let's be honest, a text to your phone or a friendly neighbour is more useful here than any amount of law enforcement, security companies or loud blaring alarms annoying your neighbours), you want to stop someone in their tracks.

      Connect smoke system and, in your average untargetted burglary, it's then not really possible to steal anything in time. Alarm goes off, home fills with smoke, you can't see shit and you're so "alarmed" by that that you run off.

      Dogs can be ignored, if you have the right approach. Hell, a sausage from a stranger will tame just about any beast that you're choosing to keep near your kids at night.

      CCTV is useless... even when it captures, it doesn't stop. And most of the time it won't capture. I've supplied CCTV to police any number of times in my job and when neighbours were burgled. They were singularly useless as everyone looks the same in a hoodie and cap, and not at all suspicious walking around the local areas.

      Alarms are useless except to alert YOU to the problem. That may or may not be useful but chances are that the peace of mind that you get a text even if something's smashed when nobody notices during the day is enough. And when it goes off, you can ring a friend to pop round, or phone the neighbour to ask if they could have a look. At least you might end up with a witness or a car plate or scaring them off, though.

      But a smoke system - unless they KNOW it's present and bring night-vision or something - stops them and actually prevents them even in a smash-and-grab.

      The problem with security is that people do what they think works, rather than what actually works. Literally, sneak into your own house and see how crap most camera placement, etc. is if you were prepared to just cover up and smash a window.

      Make your place look secure. Make it look more effort than it's worth. Don't leave expensive shit on show. Lock doors. Don't buy cheap tacky signs and fake plastic cameras. And twitch the curtains once in a while if you see people stopping in cars outside - they may well be reccying the place. And if you want to actually STOP the crime in progress, or be alerted to a crime in progress, deploy a system that does that.

      CCTV is only useful for after-the-event, for insurance purposes and things like that.

      Much better to put in decent window locks and get in the habit of double-locking doors and costing them every few seconds you can than almost anything else.

      Neighbours on both sides of my house have been burgled in the last year. I'm not claiming infallibility here, but access to my house/garden just LOOKS in a totally different class. They had no garden gate, unprotected side-alleys into the back of the house, had left a window at the back open (even if it was tiny) while they were out, old broken windows out front, etc. The neighbour was FOLLOWED HOME from the local train station after attending a religious event covered head-to-toe in their family gold and DID NOTHING TO REPORT IT, despite being worried for their children immediately afterwards. The next day, they were broken into and only the gold was stolen.

      A few days after that, they were back banging on the doors and bothering their children who were home alone to try to get them to open the door. Nobody thought to phone police and/or yell for help from neighbours until hours later (or at all in the latter case!).

      However, at no point, did the culprits walk within shot of anything to do with my CCTV system. We know, because the police asked for it, and there was nothing. They'd obviously reccied and decided exactly how they were going to do it, including jumping a small garden fence so that they didn't need to walk down my neighbour's path (covered by my CCTV) to approach their house.

      And they knew enough to steer clear of the house with live CCTV

    6. Re:Monitoring isn't peace of mind. by swillden · · Score: 3, Informative

      Guns are irrelevant when you're not home. If you are home, then the alarm system is even more important; you can't use that shotgun if you don't know your home has been invaded.

      You will get off scott free, your gun returned to you and a piece of shit was removed from the gene pool.

      If you believe it's that easy, you're fooling yourself. Oh, it does go that way for some people. Many others are severely traumatized by having taken a life (and you can't know if you will be or not until after it happens), and others end up dealing with criminal investigations and lawsuits that drain their personal and financial resources. Some also deal with social stigma.

      I'm a concealed weapons permit instructor. I'm all in favor of defending your life, and firearms are the best tools for that. But don't ever think that it's a good outcome. Killing an intruder is a better outcome than being killed by one, but it's still very bad.

      If you're home, an alarm system (or a dog) is good because it will alert you. The right thing to do then, if possible, is to gather your family in a room with one entrance. Cover that entrance with your gun(s) and call the police. The best case scenario is that the police arrive and catch the perp(s). Second best is that the perps leave before the cops arrive. Any scenario which requires you to fire your gun is a bad one, even if all of the others are worse.

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    7. Re:Monitoring isn't peace of mind. by NormalVisual · · Score: 2

      I'm a concealed weapons permit instructor. I'm all in favor of defending your life, and firearms are the best tools for that. But don't ever think that it's a good outcome. Killing an intruder is a better outcome than being killed by one, but it's still very bad.

      Very wise post, and as a CCW holder myself I couldn't agree more. There's an old saying, "every bullet that leaves your gun has a lawyer attached to it". Except for range time, of course, which anyone that carries should be getting plenty of.

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  7. Re:Get serious... by geoskd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Because otherwise what the system runs is irrelevant and makes very little sense to tinker with it. If you *really* enjoy the tinkering, install a primary security system and get a secondary as an add-on to play with.

    The entire point of a security system is deterrence. The thing you have to understand is that, even if you have 4k video, DNA evidence, and a signed confession, the police will not do a damned thing to help you. If you're in a tough enough area, they wont even send a cop; just take a statement over the phone. At the end of the day, once the crooks have your stuff, you've already lost, so your only hope is to scare them off before hand.

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  8. Re:Get serious... by TheCarp · · Score: 2

    Except there is also attractant. The more security you have, and the more out of place your security is, the more valuable it is perceived. I am reminded of an anecdote shared by a man trying to get rid of an old tire. He tossed it in the bed of his pickup, and left it there for several weeks. He would go about his day, park in town, etc.

    Then for a lark, he puts a combination lock around it. Not attached to anything, just the tire itself. It was stolen from his pickup the next day.

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  9. A yard sign ... by PPH · · Score: 2

    ... that says

    "All computers in this residence run Linux.
    They are worth nothing at the local pawn shop".

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    1. Re:A yard sign ... by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 2

      Alternative sign:

      This computer runs Windows 10. We know who you are. We know where you are. We know what you ate for breakfast.

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  10. CCTV by LoRdTAW · · Score: 2

    Few things here.

    First, i'd be more worried about the neighborhood locals. What is the neighborhood ethnic makeup? If it's mostly black and you aren't black, then I'd be weary. If it's white trash and you're not white, I'd also be weary. Same for everyone else.
    *Blend in. Don't wear fancy clothes, iPod accessories or anything that is valuable. Don't flaunt wealth. If some destitute drug addict sees you, you're a big juicy target.
    *Ditto for gang members looking at an outsider. They most likely will rob you to exert power over you. They want you to be a cowering victim. You most likely wont get your ass kicked if you just act scared and give then what they want.

    I'v been robbed at knife and gunpoint when I went to high school in Jamaica, Queens. It was a primarily black neighborhood and during freshman year I was a frequent target being a white kid. It was more a joke for them, robbing the lone white kid of two or three dollars and laughing at me. I learned to make friends with kids who took my bus so when we got off or walked to it, we rolled deep. After that no one ever went near me again. Also, don't be a hero. Even if you think some fighting classes are worth it or your a big guy, just don't be dumb. A gun doesn't care and neither does a drug addict.

    I'm assuming you will be renting an apartment? Cameras are your best friend. Setup a few hidden inside cameras inside which will catch someone wandering around tearing up the place looking for valuables. Keep them low and head level if you can. A raspberry pi and web cams will satisfy your Linux craving if you go that route. Use a big USB key, 128GB+ to record on a loop. That or get fancy and make a cloud setup for remote access and recording.

    Make it look like someone is home. A light coming on if a loud noise is made or window/door is touched will help. Arduino project perhaps? Maybe send a text if an event comes through. Then use your phone to connect to your web cams to have a look around. The sound of a dog barking is also pretty damn good. Get a big ass dog if you can. No crack head wants to mess with a dog. Dogs, and good outdoor lighting are the best security if you ask me. Plus, you can walk the dog to stores and no one will mess with you.

    Oh, and leave some money laying around in your house. Most break-ins are by drug addicts. If you have 60 bucks on the kitchen table, hopefully that is all they want and they will get the hell out. Keep smaller electronics out of sight like gaming systems laptops and tablets. They go for the low hanging fruit. My friend had his car broken into in a real bad area populated by homeless drug addicts. The back of his car was all computer boxes will Dell and HP printed on them as he was a travelling service tech. They broke his window and stole his ashtray which had a few bucks in cash and a bunch of change. Didn't take one box or the fancy radio. They don't want to fence or pawn shit if they can get cash. Drug dealers take cash only.

  11. Re:Why bother? Get insurance. by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "it's not like the locks are going to stop a well-placed boot." Mine will.
    steel door jamb and steel door with security grade door latch and deadbolt, even cops with their battering ram can't get through it. It's certified to LPS1175 Issue 7 SR4 so no wannabe door kicker is going to do anything but hurt himself.

    I love finding stuff at surplus sales.

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  12. What's the financial trade off? by swb · · Score: 2

    So you move to a shitty neighborhood. You drop $5k on miscellaneous security stuff -- locks, alarms, door upgrades, etc. You still get nicked to the tune of $1k per year in out of pocket costs plus extras like door or window repair. And the continual aggravation and paranoia. Plus you drive out of your neighborhood for everything, since shitty neighborhoods have shitty stores and restaurants.

    So you commute instead. The extra driving is a continual hassle and costs extra money for fuel and wear and tear. But this is balanced by no paranoia or break in hassles. You spend the security money on a better car or a more efficient car. You drive less overall since the stuff you want is close by.

    Building a fortress in enemy territory is kind of appealing in a post-apocalyptic way but only if you're there all the time.

  13. Re:Raspberry Pi by phrackthat · · Score: 2

    Don't sell it - post your work on Instructables.com and let others benefit from your wisdom and ingenuity.