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University Employees Suspended Due To Guest Worker Scandal
sethstorm writes: By sponsoring employees for use at an IT staffing firm, Wright State University may have broken new ground in guest worker fraud. According to the Dayton Daily News, 19 individuals were sponsored by the university yet ended up working for WebYoga, a firm controlled by (now-suspended) top Wright State officials. They also cited Wright State's exemptions regarding prevailing wage law and H1-b limits as attractive qualities. This has implications not only for the existing workforce, but to students that see the university putting its own staff ahead of them.
H1-b Visa workers need to cost the companies 2x what hiring a citizen does. The extra money should go to training for existing, out of work, citizens.
As long as there is financial incentive for this program to be abused, it will be.
Department of Labor required international staffing agencies to pay a minimum of $61k for developers in Dayton. These guys (also in Dayton) paid $40k. Do the students know this was going on? Did the academic senate know this was going on? The staffing company paid the university to make this contract happen. Wow...
Why do universities have an exemption for these rules at all?
You don't even get to see my Resume. It's all the tools, frameworks, development processes, and miscellaneous acronyms items that get listed as "requiring" an expert level with some number of years of experience. If, for whatever reason, I lack even one of those, or if my experience is only in something related (rather than some vendor's 2016 product), then I am declined in advance.
Listing a degree requirement without an "or equivalent work experience" thrown somewhere in there also causes problems. By doing so, you don't get to find out about how I was essentially self-taught, the independent games which I published, or even the relevant military experience.
Whether or not I could actually do the work is another issue entirely - generally, I'd have needed a few weeks to study the existing software, a day or so to familiarize myself with syntax (if not already known), and maybe a few minutes to figure out where the manuals are and how to use them.
After more than enough non-replies and politically-correct rejection-without-explanations from the few who didn't keep their requirements too specific, I concluded that trucks are not yet driving themselves.
- An "Unqualified" Applicant
We got bought out by Paychex, but even that couldn't help us get any experienced people.
Pay more. If you can't get experienced people, it's because you're not paying enough.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
the cost of the Obamacare website corresponds to 70,000 workers getting $30k each.
Yes we can!
lucm, indeed.
Personally, I'd get rid of all the H1B's. Business, is screwing American workers, just for more profit. Of course, our congress does what they tell them to do.
This kind of thinking is why US workers are in such deep shit. There are people who actually believe that setting a price for your labor is somehow bad.
When a company sets a price on a product based on a desired level of profit, it's considered "the Free Market". But when a worker does the same thing we're told it's bad for everyone.
It's the Stockholm Syndrome, and the supply-side is holding you hostage. You think everyone's wages should be on a runaway train to the bottom of the barrel. What's funny is how many of these same people think it's just horrible that low-wage workers come across to border to pick lettuce. It just may be that programming is the new farm labor and has become another job that US workers don't want to do, at least at the price that's on the table.
Sooner or later, someone will figure out that labor comes first. It precedes capital. There is no capital without labor to make it happen. When you reverse the hierarchy, economies (and societies) suffer.
You are welcome on my lawn.
the problem with "pay more" is that there's often a huge discrepancy between what a company can afford and what experienced people think they're worth.
It's a problem which fixes itself pretty quickly as the experienced people run out of money. Except they don't seem to be running out of money so someone must be paying them what they think they're worth. Therefore the problem isn't with them.
the problem with "pay more" is that there's often a huge discrepancy between what a company can afford and what experienced people think they're worth.
What people think they're worth? If you can't find workers at a given price point, it means they're worth more than you think. There's a discrepancy, and it's on your side.
As for me, I've had no trouble finding work at the prices I've been asking.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
the problem with "pay more" is that there's often a huge discrepancy between what a company can afford and what experienced people think they're worth.
It's a problem which fixes itself pretty quickly as the experienced people run out of money. Except they don't seem to be running out of money so someone must be paying them what they think they're worth. Therefore the problem isn't with them.
Haven't you noticed the clear shift towards IT companies hiring less experienced workers? How often do you think people with 12-15 years of programming experience interview at Amazon or Google?
Next time you hear about the talent shortage in IT and the companies raiding college to grab people who haven't even finished their degree, read the fine print. There's a shortage of IT talent in the 0-4 years of experience. People with more experienced are not considered. Remember that blog post? http://unemployable.pen.io/
The IT world today is young staff and/or visa workers. Experienced people have to either accept a lower salary or hang on to whatever job they have, because they are no in demand. I'm not saying this is right, I'm saying this is how it is.
lucm, indeed.
Then you have three choices - whether programmer or any other kind of worker - organized labor and collective bargaining, endorse a robust welfare state or prepare for abject poverty for the rest of your life.
There is no other option. All forms of labor are being degraded.
You are welcome on my lawn.
If someone is "putting money at risk" it's because someone, somewhere - did some real work.
Don't take it from me, listen to Abraham Lincoln:
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu...
You are welcome on my lawn.
The big players have bribed the right people (campaign contributions, eventual employment in the private sector), and used the right high priced lawyers. It's only the low level scamsters who get caught. Then the authorities get to pretend that they are enforcing the law and protecting US workers.
It's just a piece of theater. Nothing to see here, move along.
Why is Snark Required?
Funny how that same reasoning doesn't seem to keep prices to the consumer from rising. And it sure doesn't influence CEO salaries. Why not bring in an H1B, there are plenty of well qualified European CEOs accustomed to working for a fraction of what an American CEO costs.
I just did a bit of googling on this matter and it is truly amazing. Did you know that Yahoo's CFO (the chief bean counter) made 50% more money last year than the CEO of SAP? Yet SAP make 4x more money than Yahoo.
Other interesting figures:
HP: CEO makes 20 millions, (100 billions revenue, 5 billions profit)
Microsoft: CEO makes 84 millions, (100 billions revenue, 12 billions profit)
Apple: CEO makes 9 millions, (200 billions revenue, 40 billions profit)
JP Morgan: CEO makes 20 millions, (50 billions revenue, 22 billions profit)
and my favorite:
Twitter: CEO makes 24 millions (1.4 billions revenue, -500 millions profit)
Meanwhile in Europe:
SAP: CEO makes 9 millions (18 billions revenu, 4 billions profit)
VW: CEO makes 23 millions (200 billions revenues, 12 billions profit)
Well I tried to find more European IT companies but there isn't a lot that are in the multi-billions dollars income bracket.
lucm, indeed.
Understanding our clients' strategy, culture and business methodology leads us to fulfill their IT needs with custom and articulated solutions. Our results speak for themselves
The results indeed do speak for themselves.
1. Offering excellence in technology solutions, utilizing automation, creativity and innovation to solve client IT issues.
They were quite creative in H1-b fraud by involving the university.
2. Providing service to our customers and affiliates, based on the principles of professionalism, integrity and the spirit of partnership.
...for varying degrees of integrity.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
You believe the North was interested in destroying the Southern economy, so I'll take a pass on your wisdom being anything more than that of a Southern apologist who would blame Lincoln for starting a war.
The North "used slavery" to destroy the South's economy?
That's some quality alternative history, right there. The South's economy was built on slavery, and Lincoln, you may recall, signed the Emancipation Proclamation.
It really bugs you that an idea you ascribed to the "teachings" of Karl Marx was actually espoused by the first Republican president, doesn't it?
You are welcome on my lawn.
You know what? Just lie. Seriously, just fucking lie and tell them you have whatever they want. They don't deserve honesty, because they have no honor. It's really come down to this. These assholes will lie, cheat, bribe, and steal to get their way with the government and screw over the good people. It's time they reaped what they sowed.
Let's see how long you'll be able to afford popcorn.
I know a few people who sincerely believed their companies were looking out for them like some benevolent corporate pappy, right up until the day they were told they weren't needed anymore.
The US labor movement is sclerotic because it served the financial elite to make it so. There's been a long term conspiracy to degrade labor unions since the 1950s. Why do you think so many administrations turned a blind eye to the takeover of so many unions by organized crime?
But I agree, the German organized labor system is very good. It's a shining example of how a manufacturing economy does better when workers are treated with respect and paid well.
You are welcome on my lawn.
That's wrong, too. "The North" didn't just claim to be opposed to slavery. They ended slavery. Why do you think the Underground Railroad was northbound? There are even songs, like "The Drinking Gourd" which slaves taught each other so they'd know to use the Big Dipper to head North to freedom.
The trope that the "Civil War wasn't really about slavery" is just something racists say to make each other feel better. "Property Rights" and "States' Rights" were just veiled references the South used (and often still uses) to their deep-seated racism.
You are welcome on my lawn.
It's easy to look back at things that happened 150 years ago and then put people in the Right or Wrong columns. That's the Monday morning quarterback syndrome.
If you want wisdom, here it is: there hasn't been a single armed conflict in History that opposed Good People and Bad People. Things are always more complicated than that. The more strongly you believe that one side in a specific conflict was "right", the less you know about said conflict. If you don't have the intellectual humility to accept that, you're vastly overestimating your capacity to see the big picture.
lucm, indeed.
A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the States north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common Government, because he has declared that that "Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free," and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction.
After the war, southerners felt immoral for supporting slavery, and tried to come up with other reasons for the war, the famous "Lost Cause". Charles A. Beard was not the first of these historians, and he was not the last. Slavery was clearly the central issue.
Which isn't to say that everyone fought because of slavery: some people had other reasons for fighting. General Lee didn't want the war, he liked the union. When war came, he found his devotion to Virginia was deeper than his devotion to his country (also, he had plenty of family members in Virginia and didn't want to fight against them).
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Bullshit. Most jobs that require a degree could competently be done by a high school dropout with some additional job training.
Employers want people with degrees because it's harder to quit when you're staring six figures of student loan debt in the face, so they can work you harder, pay you less, and generally treat you like shit.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.