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iOS Ad Blocker "Crystal" Will Let Companies Pay To Show You Ads
pdclarry writes: Apple's iOS 9 now supports ad blockers. The most popular of these, Peace, was withdrawn after only a couple of days because the developer thought "it just doesn't feel good." Crystal then quickly rose to the top of the heap. But the developer of Crystal has announced that it will allow "acceptable ads" — for a fee from the advertiser. Crystal is a paid app; so you can now pay for the privilege of seeing ads.
Dear consumer,
Pay me money for my ad-blocking app!
Dead advertiser,
Hey, I got all these saps... er customers to pay me for ad blocking! Now pay me money for the privilege to advertise to them!!
Sincerely,
Jackass developer.
Changing the terms of the agreement for purchased products is not in the same league as changing the terms of a free product. When people pay for something, they expect it to do what they paid for.
I do not fail; I succeed at finding out what does not work.
Making people pay for your app to block ads while making advertisers pay to get their ads seen - isn't that like sucking from both ends of a pipe at the same time?
Dear Crystal author,
Fuck you.
Sincerely,
-JustAnotherOldGuy
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
If you are not paying then you are the product. Unfortunately if your are paying, nothing prevents company from selling you anyway
App appers who app apps let other appers prevent you from apping apps! This has nothing to do with LUDDITE ads!
Apps!
Apple's iOS 9 now supports ad blockers.
I think you mean "deigns to allow you to install".
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
How do I get a refund?
If people are paying for an ad-blocker, that means they are willing to PAY for sites without ads. The smart thing to do would be to sell ad-free access to sites through the "ad-blocker" - the site gets paid, the user is happy.
Just figure out a way to do it that doesn't involve tracking the user in the process because modern ad-blocking is at least as much about tracker-blocking as it is about ad-blocking.
As long as the developer of Crystal puts a tickbox in the preferences to allow you to block "acceptable advertising" then I don't see the issue. I understand that Crystal doesn't have a preferences screen right now, but it shouldn't be that hard to add one.
People who are happy to see adverts as long as they meet some sort of "acceptable" criteria can have it turned off - and people who just never want to see an advert again can turn it on.
Please don't let it be a repeat of Adblock Plus where all the nerdrage drowned out the few voices of reason that merely pointed out that all the anger could be resolved with the unchecking of a single tickbox in the preferences.
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Thank got for choice! Currently I am using Adamant and 1Blocker.
The more time goes by the more we will see and the cheaper they will get. It is not rocket science. Everybody can cook their own using the adblock plus lists in a matter of hours.
I requested a refund. Seems like Apple promptly granted it to me. Not sure when the funds will be returned to my account though. I *strongly* urge everyone to do the same out of principle. Sling-Media pulled this stunt with the Slingbox. We need to nip this sort of thing in the bud.
Every article I read about iOS adblockers praised the paid ones. I just went and downloaded Freedom, which is free!
I have an iPhone, but I've been holding off on getting an ad blocker until it becomes apparent which one will really be the best. Apparently I also need to wait to see which one won't close up shop and which one will really be an ad blocker and not just a pseudo-ad blocker.
Remember: "If you are not the customer, you're the product."? I don't remember ever seeing "You are the customer AND you are the product."
Don't step on the baby.
I thought we said we wanted adblock because there were too many ads using (pick any/all):
[ ] Tracking cookies
[ ] Pop-ups
[ ] Pop-unders
[ ] Click-throughs
[ ] Flash or other auto-play media
[ ] Obtrusive (mid-article) placement
[ ] Annoying (blinking!) styling
[ ] Malware (usually flash based)
Of course companies do that because they have an incentive to do so. Now a company is saying -- hey, we'll give you an incentive to use unobtrusive ads -- they'll actually reach more people (including the much sought-after millennials who use adblockers the most). And we're upset that the incentive will align towards them?
I mean, if you point was to fuck the advertisers -- sure. But say that upfront, don't gripe about the method and then get all upset when someone tries to devise a scheme for reasonable ads.
AdBlock Plus: Extortion or Smart Business? | John C. Dvorak | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/...
Adblock Plus demands cash from websites to whitelist ads | http://www.digitaltrends.com/w...
Is that extortion? the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
A German court says it isn't. http://blog.pagefair.com/2015/...
Still stinks, but. People use adblockers to block ads. Not to only see ads where the advertiser greases the palm of some third party promising to block ads.
If that's the way they want to do things, then they're basically creating malware and nobody should use their app.
Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
He's as funny as cancer.
are daft enough they will to and be happy and tweet about it. The stupid cunts.
Just like cable.
Minimum threshold fixed. Thanks!
His argument is:
It'll be entirely optional when the feature is available.
His plan is to only allow ads that adhere to the acceptableads.org manifesto. As a "man in the middle" I don't see how he can determine which ads satisfy the manifesto. He cannot determine if the ads disrupt or distort a page, can't determine if the ads are being transparent about being ads, can't determine that they're shouting at us or are annoying and also cannot determine if the ads are appropriate for the site being viewed.
So basically he's either lying to customers (by taking money from the advertisers and allowing the ads through w/o all of this analysis) or he's fooling himself into thinking he can systematically determine the ads satisfy the manifesto on the fly while rendering web content.
The take away is that he's selling out to develop this "optional" feature to allow ads. That means he's one update away from at first removing the "optional" aspect of the feature and eventually turning his registered user base into a target for ad delivery.
...and Crystal plummets out of sight in 3...2...1...
Me, I'm a bit miffed that I finally upgraded my iPhone 4S to iOS 9 so that I could install an ad-blocker, but then find that the 4S doesn't support ad blockers because it doesn't have a 64-bit chip. I have no idea why an ad blocker would require that. Some claim it needs high performance, but that doesn't make sense - surely blocking an ad reduces the performance required to display a page? Don't get it, seems like Apple just arbitrarily decided that ad blocking needs a modern device as an upgrade driver.
Here's a SMALL partial only sample of OpenBid & other ad networks malware makers have taken advantage of to infect you with:
http://www.itworld.com/securit...
http://nakedsecurity.sophos.co...
http://www.zdnet.com/ad-exec-o...
http://search.slashdot.org/sto...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023...
http://nakedsecurity.sophos.co...
http://www.securityweek.com/ea...
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...
http://www.wired.com/techbiz/m...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...
APK
P.S.=> See subject & those links (AND we're free of ads that not only INFECT US, but also STEAL BANDWIDTH & SPEED WE PAY FOR MONTHLY too) - to be continued in my next subsequent post with MORE of the same information for you vs. your b.s. advertiser
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A lot of the content people want isn't the web site's original work, it's the contributions of the thousands of users of the web site. Like Slashdot -- I'm really not here for TFA, I'm here for the discussion that occurs about the TFA.
Why should I pay the web site owner for content they didn't generate? Nobody would visit the site if it wasn't for the unpaid contributors.
I get that sites cost money to run, but making the people who make your web site valuable through their contributions of content pay with ads and tracking is kind of obnoxious.
Maybe people who contribute more often could get less or no ads.
I choose what is acceptable to me, nobody else.
And stalking isn't acceptable. I am doing nothing wrong, and it is still none of their damn business.
that ad blockers needed to work? Firefox has all that stuff (my firefox plug-in needs it to build youtube links). I've been trying to finish a Chrome port in my spare time but Chrome is missing a lot of that stuff and I haven't found a good way to hack it in (my C/C++-fu is only so-so).
Hi! I make Firefox Plug-ins. Check 'em out @ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-mp3-podcaster/
It seems simple to me, just get a refund and use the money to purchase one that actually works. The refund is a legal right in most countries if the product does not work as claimed. Here in NZ consumer protection laws would see the refund being a simple process in this case, an ad blocker must block ads or your money back.
Disclaimer: I use Firefox/Adblock Edge so have never paid for an ad blocker.
Since my iPad mini was Left Behind (Apple says 32 bit devices do not support native ad-blocking), I bought Weblock, which works with my older device. Seems to be working well so far, and also works with Google Chrome, which is my preferred browser.
Sent from my iPhone
How about an ad blocker that charges advertisers per view to let their ads be seen, and pays users a portion of that (say split it 10% to the blocker's developer, half the remainder to the site and half to the user) if they allow the ads to be shown to them. If the advertiser wants more views, they can either a) make more interesting ads that people actually want to see or b) offer more money for people's attention.
Website owners are free to put their content behind a paywall, or block users who block ads.
FUCK YOU SHILL
Not our problem. We didn't build the system. We don't care how you pay your fucking bills. We don't have to get fat, buy mortgages, have our souls attacked, and otherwise be victimized by corporations.
That's your problem. Not ours. Not profitable? Go do something else. If the demand isn't there for your supply, stop shitting up the search results. I can't find a pancake recipe without javacscript flash html5 silverfish java css SLIDESHOW blocking up the top of the google results. That should be a 20kb text file with every fucking pancake I need.
Fuck you. Fuck them. Dirty. Fucking. Shills.
The advertising industry doesn't give a shit about me, my privacy and my security. I don't give a shit about them and their profits. Fuck off and take your SJW talk of privilege with you.
The only kind of ad blocking I trust is localhost redirects via /etc/hosts. This is what I do for my desktop and Android phone. I believe there's a similar mechanism for Windows. Since iOS is running a BSD base, wouldn't it be the same for iPhones? Create a host file with something like:
127.0.0.1 facebook.com
Here's yet another SMALL partial only sample of OpenBid & other ad networks malware makers have taken advantage of to infect you with:
http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...
http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...
http://it.slashdot.org/story/0...
http://it.slashdot.org/story/0...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...
(PART #1 is here -> http://apple.slashdot.org/comm... )
Lastly - you can *TRY* downmod this again like you did here before http://apple.slashdot.org/comm... and I'll come RIGHT OVER THE TOP OF YOU, burning out your modpoints exhausting them, by posting this again to spite your dumb asses trolls... and I'll win, I always do. You can't & never will, lol... not vs. me! I won't allow it...
APK
P.S.=> See subject & those links (AND we're free of ads that not only INFECT US, but also STEAL BANDWIDTH & SPEED WE PAY FOR MONTHLY too)
... apk
Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:
1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phish
10.) Protect vs. caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily controlled data
16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage
* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = already on every device natively.
APK
P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):
Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).
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ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!
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Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://www.businessinsider.com...
Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).
What's best?
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
&
It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
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In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
... apk
Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:
1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phish
10.) Protect vs. caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily controlled data
16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage
* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = already on every device natively.
APK
P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):
Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).
+
ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!
+
Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://www.businessinsider.com...
Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).
What's best?
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
&
It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
... apk
Can adblock+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:
1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop C&C communique
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop C&C communique
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop C&C communique
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phish
10.) Protect vs. caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily controlled data
16.) Do all that & block ads better than addons more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage
* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ab+ doing it as well or @ ALL + hosts = already on every device natively.
APK
P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):
Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).
+
ClarityRay defeats it by dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods!
+
Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://www.businessinsider.com...
Ab+ adds complexity from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).
What's best?
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
&
It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
In its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
... apk
See subject & APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...
FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. browser addons & locally installed DNS servers @ home + fixes DNS' redirect security issues - obtaining its data vs. online threats & adbanner blocking from 10 reputable sites in the security community - using something you already have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR' that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overuse overheads & actually SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocking + locally cached in RAM favorites placed @ the TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed), whereas by way of comparison, other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOW YOU DOWN!
* :)
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
&
It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
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"The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"...
APK
P.S.=> By "yours truly" - "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:
PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:
"The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THAT WORD = hosts!
(Accept NO substitutes!)
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People are prepared to pay money to block ads, and advertisers are prepared to pay money to keep ads being displayed. How about using some of that money to pay for maintenance of the websites that have blocked ads?
Ask me about repetitive DNA
True. And not only did Dean Murphy's app net $75,000 from customers who thought they were paying for an ad-free experience, but the extra cash to allow ads is being paid to him by Adblock Plus themselves! http://www.theverge.com/2015/9...
iTunes says nothing about letting certain ads through: "Crystal is a content blocker for iPhone & iPad designed to make the mobile web a great experience. It blocks Adverts, User Tracking and improves speed, data use and battery life of your device as a result." Deceptive advertising!
His Twitter handle is ''Crafty Deano''. Figures! https://twitter.com/CraftyDean...^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
Fuck you thief. Stop selling yourself short and quit pretending you even know what the fuck you are even talking about. /. I get game apk ads. Talk about motherfucking annoying. I'd like to reach through the webpage and punch the game devs in the face. Fuck your ad you and your fucking games aps in the ass.
If I unblock ads on
Oh and if I feel like sharingssoftware movies and music TOO MOTHERFUCKING BAD. Suck it bitch.
Parent simply looks like a nuanced opinion -possibly one that's not too popular here- to me.
Nothing in there that even remotely looks like trolling.
"Money is a sign of poverty." - Iain Banks
Refund, now.
I too was once reasonably happy with Purify, but what does it have to do with ad-blocking escapes me... Maybe, things have changed since I switched to valgrind...
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Here is what's wrong with all this bullshit in one sentence:
If your company wants to show me ads, you pay me for my time and attention.
Not some software developer, not some marketing company that promises to bypass all my filters, not some spammer who will flood my inbox, not anyone who basically made it a profession to show me crap that I don't want to see.
You are using my time, my resources, my attention, you want to get inside my brain, put a message into my memory. Why don't you nitwits not get the very simple conclusion that you should put money into my pocket to make that happen?
Assorted stuff I do sometimes: Lemuria.org
It isn't, though I don't agree with what he is doing. It does block adverts (it just won't block all adverts). A bit like a hand-sanitiser being advertised as "kills germs".
There will be hundreds of adblockers for iOS soon enough. Some are free (I have adMod & Adblocker) , there's even one on github you can compile yourself for free now that xcode 7 allows you to side load your own apps at no cost.
No reason to spend money on a ios ad blocker. They ones that cost money in the store are just preying on the ignorant. I mean there was already adblocking on iOS I use Mercury browser and had Weblock and didn't have any ads before iOS 9.
I read the title of the post and thought that advertisers would pay YOU to show YOU ads. That might be acceptable to me, receiving a payment for every ad I have to see.
What if advertisers paid ME, directly, to see their ads? If some kind of system like that were in place, I would consider turning off my ad blocker.
Proverbs 21:19
And this is why ad-blocking should be done at the hosts file level... Oh, you can't do that with an iOS device? Well, well, well...
"A sysadmin is a cross between a detective, a police officer, a gardener, a doctor and a fireman"
I will be developing an ad blocker app that blocks ads in ad blockers
good sites like Reddit
Reddit.
Good.
Pick one.
See subject & APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...
FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. browser addons & locally installed DNS servers @ home + fixes DNS' redirect security issues - obtaining its data vs. online threats & adbanner blocking from 10 reputable sites in the security community - using something you already have vs. "bolting on browser addons 'MOAR' that's usermode slower & increases messagepassing, cpu + ram overuse overheads & actually SPEEDS YOU UP 2 ways (adblocking + locally cached in RAM favorites placed @ the TOP of hosts for fastest resolution speed), whereas by way of comparison, other "so-called security 'solutions'" SLOW YOU DOWN!
* :)
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
&
It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
---
"The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"...
APK
P.S.=> By "yours truly" - "The Lord of Hosts" so-to-speak:
PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:
"The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" from https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... & THAT WORD = hosts!
(Accept NO substitutes!)
...apk
A hand sanitizer tries to kill all germs- just some will inevitably not get killed. This would be like a hand sanitizer that kills most germs, but lets through the common cold, because that's a good virus, and we need to keep the antihistamine industry employed. Meanwhile, the manufacturer of this gets paid by some company that makes a cold medicine.
It's not often that a company with a business model of charging BOTH ends lives very long.
Think RealAudio, and so on.
One industry that has managed to do this, for several decades, is academic publishing. In that case, you pay three times. Refereeing and writing articles for publication are "unpaid" activities.
Fortunately, this is slowly changing