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How Steve Jobs Outsmarted Carly Fiorina

HughPickens.com writes: Carly Fiorina likes to boast about her friendship with Apple founder Steve Jobs but Fortune Magazine reports that it turns out Carly may have outfoxed of by Apple's late leader. In January 2004, Steve Jobs and Carly Fiorina cut a deal where HP could slap its name on Apple's wildly successful iPod and sell it through HP retail channels but HP still managed to botch things up. The MP3 player worked just like a regular iPod, but it had HP's logo on the back and in return HP agreed to continue pre-loading iTunes onto its PCs. According to Steven Levy soon after the deal with HP was inked, Apple upgraded the iPod, making HP's version outdated and because of Fiorina's deal HP was banned from selling its own music player until August 2006. "This was a highly strategic move to block HP/Compaq from installing Windows Media Store on their PCs," says one Apple source. "We wanted iTunes Music store to be a definitive winner. Steve only did this deal because of that."

In short, Fiorina's "good friend" Steve Jobs blithely mugged her and HP's shareholders. By getting Fiorina to adopt the iPod as HP's music player, Jobs had effectively gotten his software installed on millions of computers for free, stifled his main competitor, and gotten a company that prided itself on invention to declare that Apple was a superior inventor.

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  1. Carly may have outfoxed of by Apple's late leader by sexconker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Carly may have outfoxed of by Apple's late leader

    Why do you even post things anymore, timothy?

  2. Re:Carly may have outfoxed of by Apple's late lead by hawguy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Carly may have outfoxed of by Apple's late leader

    Why do you even post things anymore, timothy?

    "Why do you even of things anymore, timothy?".

    Fixed that for you.

  3. Re:Sad to see the HP culture disappearing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I always took a full week of vacation off when I worked there.

    Is this what USasians think is a generous vacation policy? You're seriously impressed about being able to take a whole week of vacation?!? LOL.

  4. Re:weakly disguised hit-piece by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Considering she's running for president, it shouldn't be surprising at all that her record gets raked over with a fine-toothed comb.

    As for the deal itself, it definitely sounds like HP tried to gain advantage, but Apple came out as the clear winner, with HP (and Fiorinia) looking entirely foolish. Given the rest of her tenure at HP (and elsewhere), I'm not surprised in the least to hear it. She's never been any sort of true visionary, and having Jobs leave her in the dust with having doubled down on what was soon to be yesterday's technology, while he focused on what was really key is exactly what I would expect.

    So is it really a "hit piece" to tell what happened, and put it in proper context? Why was HP wasting its time doing things like buying Compaq, and trying to piggyback on Apple's successes? If she was really a visionary, shouldn't she have been leading the market and innovating the way Jobs was?

  5. Re:weakly disguised hit-piece by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    You may not be aware of this, but Fiorina has been citing Jobs to deflect criticism of her for being fired by HP's board. She says that after she was fired he called her up and said "been there!" She's implying that because Jobs was fired and came back even stronger, her being fired from HP is proof she's a genius just like Jobs.

    Since she brought up Jobs to make herself look good, it was inevitable that Jobs would be used to make her look bad. She opened that door.

  6. Big Whoop by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Informative

    A three-legged cat could out-fox Carly Fiorina.

    http://www.politico.com/magazi...

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  7. sad by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The fact that these candidates are the best that we as a country can muster is pretty pathetic. I know we have really thoughtful and intelligent people in this country, but for whatever reason, they don't seem to be able (or want) to compete with the horribly inept batch of clowns that we inevitably get.

    America is basically like a very badly run company (e.g. like HP). The mediocre rise to the top. Actually Carly seems exactly like the sort of president we deserve. She can speak well enough to disguise the fact that what she is saying is completely retarded. Compare this skillset to Ted Cruz, Rick Perry, and Trump, and it makes her look like a teacher in a room full of shitty kids.

  8. Re:Carly may have outfoxed of by Apple's late lead by Darinbob · · Score: 5, Funny

    Powerful you have become. The Timothy I sense in you.

  9. Re:weakly disguised hit-piece by hirschma · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well, she was outfoxed.

    The PJB-100, the first disk-based MP3 player, was in my hands in 1999 - a full two years before the iPod. HP owned fundamental patents that could have taxed each unit that Apple sold - but seemed to be entirely unaware of that ownership.

    Instead, they paid Apple to resell their own inventions. Brilliant!

    So yeah, she just totally sucked.

  10. Re:Carly may have outfoxed of by Apple's late lead by Rei · · Score: 5, Funny

    I personally believe that the Timothy are unable to do so because, uh, some, uh, people out there in our nation don't have spellcheck and, uh, I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and, uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and, I believe that they should, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, or, uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future for our children.

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  11. Re:Carly may have outfoxed of by Apple's late lead by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Funny

    This begs the question...

    Did Carly may have outlived of by Apple's late leader?

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  12. Re:weakly disguised hit-piece by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Insightful

    socialism: public safety nets. much cheaper and higher quality healthcare. affordable higher education. source: canada, denmark, germany, norway, etc... countries richer, healthier, happier, better educated, and *freer* than the usa: no financial parasites funneling money out of their society via cozy relationships paid for by corrupt elections, for nothing in return, because regulating corporations and plutocrats is "against freedom"

    communism: gulags and mass starvation and no free speech and no free press and no freedom of religion and control and fear and genocide and hour long lines to get scratchy toilet paper. that's canada and germany, right?

    american moron: socialism = communism, because hysterical low iq propaganda that hasn't had an original thought since mccarthy's 1950s red scare bullshit means that binary choices between communism and capitalism are the only choices in a subject matter, economics, that in reality, has thousands of complex variations. but... we'll just stick to our ignorant kneejerk biases, because it serves our plutocrat masters who produce the propaganda to keep us misinformed, poor and unhealthy, and we like it because we're useful fools

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