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Daimler Tests a Self-Driving Truck On the Autobahn
Engadget reports that Daimler has tested an autonomous truck in one environment guaranteed to put stress on any car: the German Autobahn. While the Mercedes Actros truck was guided with a mix of "radar, a stereo camera array and off-the-shelf systems like adaptive cruise control," there was a human crew on hand, too, just in case. From the article: This doesn't mean you'll see fleets of robotic trucks in the near future. Daimler had to get permission for this run, and the law (whether European or otherwise) still isn't equipped to permit regular autonomous driving of any sort, let alone for giant cargo haulers. Still, this could make a better case for approving some form of self-driving transportation.
The article's a bit short on details, but this is where I expect autonomous driving to take off first--long-haul trucking. Controlled-access highways present fewer complications like pedestrians, four-way stops, and the like, and I imagine automating that would take care of 80% of the driving. Even if you still needed a human driver to reel 'er in at the warehouse gates or even the city limits, it still strikes me as a huge improvement.
Laws and liability are going to be the biggest limiting factor to commercial deployment, especially if they boil down to "a human must be ready to intervene at any time," but I think there are fudges around that. You could have one human operator in a remote control center "driving" multiple trucks, kind of like a cross between drone pilot and remote ICU monitoring.
Not that even a human sitting in the seat with hands on the wheel would be likely to intervene effectively should something go wrong after eight hours of idle monotony. But, having a human somewhere supervising in some capacity would soothe the more irrational fears that also serve as part of the reason we still keep human pilots flying planes, while still yielding the benefits that come with automation--self-driving trucks are much less compelling if each one still needs a full-time human driver to comply with laws.
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People on the autobahn are generally courteous, signal when changing lanes and so on. I guess you'd have to be at such speeds, but it's also part of the German national character. Furthermore, it's a highway so everyone is driving fast and the velocity differences, which cause most of the danger, are actually rather low most of the time. I think the highway may possibly be the safest and easiest environment for automated driving.
"This doesn't mean you'll see fleets of robotic trucks in the near future."
Yes it will. And these idiots are the ones who will make it happen.
First the robots came for the truckers, and I said nothing because I wasn't a trucker...
It's not a substitute, it's a complement.
A truck goes exactly where you need it to go, not some hub somewhere where you have to send it out by truck for 100 more miles anyway... You simply cannot do that with trains.
Even though freight trains will still be around because of massive hauling capacity, you would STILL need a robust trucking infrastructure just to handle the "last few hundred miles" needs.
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German self driving tanks sound like more fun. Maybe some armored drones and, and LASERS!!!!!!
Highways are very simple, continuous lanes, very little complication, city roads are a whole different story.
Non-story.
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Automated trucks without any drivers? Sounds like a hijackers dream!
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Is a truck that could figure out how to get a 53' trailer in a place designed for 40' trailers.
But... there's no sense in getting mad about that, or the fact that some parts of the USA haven't bothered to invest in, say, updating their facilities over the last couple decades.
Then she turned in to Daenerys Targaryen and has a T-800 of her own.
remote control has to meny points of fail that can cut the link.
Sorry, Germans do not use "Müüüü" as onomatopoeia . . . at least not commonly.
I predict within 1 year of these trucks going on the road, at least one will be hijacked and robbed.
Implement on the train:
if (link_down())
halt();
Implement at the control station:
if (link_down())
foreach (other_trains_on_that_track())
signal_halt();
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A German cow makes muuuuuuuuh, you illiterate Kuh.
they came long ago replacing workers in factories...
So All I need a cell jamer and I can DDOS you full rail line?
Think about it. One tractor trailer driver can easily be paid 60K per year and he must get food and shelter allowances as well. The law limits his hours in the cab so unless he is breaking the law that truck will sit still at least 12 hours a day. On the other hand a machine driving the truck requires zero rest so that truck can keep rolling 24/7 with brief stops for fueling. That means operation of a truck will be reduced in cost by 60% or greater. Further the customers will get much faster delivery of their orders. Trucking companies will want this like you won't believe. Taxis will also be automated and we will probably see Uber cars automated as well. The cost of owning such a vehicle will be far lower as the vehicle can stay in constant use. So you own the vehicle and it is out earning you money every minute you are not in your car. This means that we can reduce the actual number of cars on the road vastly. Further your automated car can drop your kids off at school and then go to the grocery store and have it loaded by the bag boy and the car brings your order home. Amazon is about to start a delivery service such that products from any store can be delivered to your home. One side effect is that hundreds of thousands of jobs are about to vanish because of this technology.
If it drives better than the average Eastern European drunk that is the typical 'driver' for these vehicles nowadays, it's a success.
"This doesn't mean you'll see fleets of robotic trucks in the near future."
Yes it will. And these idiots are the ones who will make it happen.
First the robots came for the truckers, and I said nothing because I wasn't a trucker...
The prostitutes at the truck stops aren't going to get much business from a self driving truck.
one environment guaranteed to put stress on any car: the German Autobahn
Uh, no?
Have you ever actually driven on the German Autobahn? It is probably the most simple environment for an autonomous car, because absolutely everything is very clearly defined and built to standards. You have very reliable road quality, width, signaling. No traffic lights, roundabouts or intersections. Very few traffic rules (basically speed limit and whether or not trucks are allowed to overtake on this stretch). Construction sites are about the only tricky spots you will ever encounter. Even incoming and exiting traffic is very simple to handle, because there is one and only one way in which it will ever happen.
If I were to write autonomous driving software, I would start with the Autobahn, and then go to more complicated road systems later.
For trucks, even speed is trivial. The general high speed of trucks is 80 km/h, so if you are a truck you stay on the right lane and stick to that speed and that's it.
Left-lane driving on the Autobahn is more interesting, especially for foreigners (you think you're going crazy fast in your rental car at 190 km/h (about 120 mph), and there's this BMW behind you signaling to get your slow ass out of the way). But we're talking about trucks here.
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If a train is stopped in a segment the segment behind him will stay blocked. It is only released when the train has left its segment. At least that is how railways are operated in most parts of Europe.
Anyway, your algorithm would cause a major collapse and of the railway system. You would rather built it with some decision support. However, high speed trains use multiple ways to communicate position and speed. And they know how fast they can go at any segment of the tracks.
The unfortunate reality is this technology for self driving cars is only meant to replace more workers. But in a ever increasing population what exactly are we going to do when so many jobs are replaced? Through the ages of humans the work force has always been made up of a assortment of skilled and unskilled labor. I think its rather presumptuous to assume that you do not affect the labor in a negative way by replacing a job market with technology. This not only is in self driving trucks and other commercial vehicles, but drones, self serving restaurants or anywhere you see humans being replaced by technology. Even something like call centers will become staffed with fewer and fewer people because eventually computer generated assistance will replace them. Sometimes I think we use technology for things on a level that threatens more then we know. We concern ourselves only with how to get self driving vehicles on the road, and not if we should.
It would be more like "Ihr alle seid Kühe", as "alles" means "the whole" and not "everyone".
There is a german children rhyme: "Eine Kuh macht Muh, viele Kühe machen Mühe", which translates to "A cow says moo, many cows make tedious work."
No, you cannot DDOS me full rail line.
What you can do, is DoS a partial rail line.
Much like all you need is a laser pointer and you can DoS a full airport, or a few rocks and you can DoS a reasonable piece of a motorway.
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Then she turned in to Daenerys Targaryen and has a T-800 of her own.
Yeah I thought I saw Cersei Lannister fighting a T-800, but i guess the timeline changed and now its Daenerys.
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This is a logical fallacy and seeing it at +4 Insightful is a good summary of how broken /. is.
Seriously, cell jammers are easy to pinpoint. Because they are SENDING LIKE MAD.
Plus, even in case of a DoS (note that parent doesn't even understand that it wouldn't be a DDoS) the trains will halt.
In other words, people will not get killed.
*shakes head*
Hey I did my best, all right? It's only been a couple months that I've spoken any German at all. But I will try harder to maintain the high quality standards of the YOU ARE ALL COWS franchise.
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