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DNA Vaccine Sterilizes Mice, Could Lead To One-Shot Birth Control For Cats, Dogs

sciencehabit writes: Animal birth control could soon be just a shot away. A new injection makes male and female mice infertile by tricking their muscles into producing hormone-blocking antibodies. If the approach works in dogs and cats, researchers say, it could be used to neuter and spay pets and to control reproduction in feral animal populations. A similar approach could one day spur the development of long-term birth control options for humans.

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  1. cats and dogs agree... by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

    "think of the harbles!"

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  2. Suuuure.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ...cats and dogs... why do i suddenly have flashbacks to the "vaccine" guns from X-Men: The last stand...?

    Next up: Cure for overpopulation found...

    1. Re:Suuuure.... by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      DHS? I think it was actually the department of education or the IRS (or some other ABC that has no need for weapons)

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    2. Re:Suuuure.... by WolphFang · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Why do I have flashbacks to forced sterilizations which occurred in the US to those considered "genetically inferior" aka Native Americans and Negroids.

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    3. Re:Suuuure.... by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 3, Informative

      Or in Israel in the 21st century, where poor Ethiopian refugees were sterilized without their knowledge, believing they were being vaccinated.

                      http://www.theguardian.com/com...

      It's a recurring practice in human history.

    4. Re:Suuuure.... by Chrontius · · Score: 2

      DoE bought grenade launchers. DHS bought hollowpoints.

      The grenade launchers were deemed useless and returned to the army for a refund, but the hollowpoints are about what it takes to certify every law enforcement officer on their service weapon and do a little training. Not even enough training to be really safe with their sidearms, but a little training is still a definite improvement.

      Remember - violence doesn't need much ammo, but proficiency will eat as much as you can shoot.

    5. Re:Suuuure.... by lisaparratt · · Score: 1

      This already exists, and is used in pig farming: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... . It works equally well for humans.

  3. Umm... WHAT? by orlanz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...new injection ... long-term birth control options for humans.

    What could possible go wrong? Did some government police state / apocalyptic scenarios run through anyone else's minds when they read that?

    1. Re:Umm... WHAT? by Fwipp · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yeah... it's not like our government has a history of sterilizing undesirables or anything, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    2. Re:Umm... WHAT? by Nutria · · Score: 1

      Yes. Yes they did.

      And don't forget conspiracy theory wingnuts of all stripes: "Obama wants to destroy us!" and "African holocaust!!"

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    3. Re:Umm... WHAT? by TheCarp · · Score: 2

      Not much really, your DNA is in every single cell, reproduction will still be possible, albeit through lab technique, which is preferable since it wont ever happen accidentally.

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    4. Re:Umm... WHAT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's a neat idea. ALL pregnancies have to be planned, and only when you are established enough financially to afford it. That's awesome.

    5. Re:Umm... WHAT? by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      ...new injection ... long-term birth control options for humans.

      What could possible go wrong? Did some government police state / apocalyptic scenarios run through anyone else's minds when they read that?

      If Australia had this in the 1970s there would be very few Aborigines left today.

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    6. Re:Umm... WHAT? by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Consider this for every other species on the planet, that would be considered a good thing. How many is too many, wait before the whole system collapses and the species ceases to exist or start effective birth control that has impact even in cases of intoxicated boredom and too lazy to do anything about it but that OK some one else can look after it and pass on the intoxicated bored lazy genes.

      So which is it, a few billions things going wrong or a few billion things going right, which is going to be by far the most likely demise of humanity, mass human sterility or a planet sterilised by human waste.

      Anything that triggers hormonal changes of course, can be changed, like duhhhh!

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    7. Re:Umm... WHAT? by Maavin · · Score: 1

      Yes: "YAY! A way to avoid the Idiocracy scenario"

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    8. Re:Umm... WHAT? by Vermonter · · Score: 1

      Seeing as Bush has an MBA from Harvard Business School, I am going to guess that the "idiot-child" is more educated than you are.

    9. Re:Umm... WHAT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Or Harvard is just giving away degrees if your daddy has enough money.

      Bush was a middling student, and in real life demonstrated himself to be a bit of an idiot.

      So much for the quality of a degree from Harvard.

    10. Re:Umm... WHAT? by Fwipp · · Score: 1

      The link I posted (which contains an incomplete list of notable incidents) lists involuntary sterilization of prisoners as recently as 2010. I wouldn't say that "we stopped 5 years ago" is a good indicator that we've changed our ways as a nation and won't ever do it again.

    11. Re:Umm... WHAT? by Triklyn · · Score: 1

      i think it's called having a working pair of eyes... and a rope in other parts of the world.

    12. Re:Umm... WHAT? by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      Unlikely, we enjoy it too much.However, we can unlink from procreation.

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    13. Re: Umm... WHAT? by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      > *Approval may be permitted regardless of other qualifications assuming 3 is met on an individual case basis by the state police chief.

      Its funny, a while back I was curious if one could become a lawyer without a degree. In theory you should be able to self study right?

      After a little digging around in my state, they did define a degree as a requirement.....but there is also a clause which grants the bar association the power to waive any of the requirements they want; which means they are not so much real requirements as guidelines.

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    14. Re: Umm... WHAT? by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      > Because other races do not have such restrain and are out breeding white peoples

      But, this is exactly what you would expect if you acknowledge that wealth is path dependent. If you start with a homogenus group of affulent people, and a much larger mixed group of poor people.

      Since birth rates are directly affected by affluence, you have an affluent group of one race, whose birth rate pales in comparison to the poor, who may include people of the same race, but mixing them in with others..... yah sounds like nothing to see here at all.

      The only thing this really proves is that the affluent are mostly the children of the affluent and the poor are, generation to generation, not climbing up the ladder... which, happens to correspond with a whole bunch of other realities, like that the future economic success of the children of middle class families is strongly influenced by whether their grandparents are also middle class.... those with poor grandparent are far more likely to end up poor themselves.

      All you are seeing is the predictable result of economic inertia causing the affluent minority to act as a litmus for the lack of economic mobility.

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  4. "hormone-blocking antibodies" by sehlat · · Score: 1

    Short form: instant castration and spaying

    Long form: Just have a mass-injection program to implement a dictator's "final solution."

  5. Not sure how I feel about that... by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    > A new injection makes male and female mice infertile by tricking their muscles into producing hormone-blocking antibodies [...] control reproduction in feral animal populations [...] similar approach could one day spur the development of long-term birth control options for humans [...]

    Not sure how I feel about that. Part of me is going hey cool, technology! Part of me is going, wait, didn't I see that movie in the 1970's? I seem to recall it didn't end well.

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  6. Re:Great by laie_techie · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This should be given to all welfare recipients and their dependents. Immediately.

    I could not disagree more. Just because someone is down on their luck now does not mean they won't get back up. BTW, I agree that people should make babies unless they are able to provide for them (but I don't trust any organization to determine eligibility).

  7. No by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Because what good is being rich if there aren't plenty of poor for you to enjoy. Hell, look at the Scandinavian countries, they're doing public service announcements begging their population to breed. They've tried everything except paying people enough to raise a family on comfort...

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    1. Re:No by beerbear · · Score: 1

      https://www.washingtonpost.com... OP was wrong in claiming it was countries. It's just one.

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  8. it's just a shot away by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    shot away shot away

  9. SG-1 Episode Foreshadowing... by Shoten · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Aschen Vaccine Causes...causes...what does this word mean?"

    "Sterility."

    "Oh, shit...not again..."

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    1. Re:SG-1 Episode Foreshadowing... by Solandri · · Score: 2

      This is the flip side of the vaccine debate. I absolutely believe vaccines are effective and on the balance beneficial to society, and everyone should be vaccinated. But stuff like this is why I reluctantly agree the government should never have the power to force people to get vaccinated. You can't just give government powers based on what good things they could do with it. You have to limit government's powers based on the worst thing they could do with it.

    2. Re:SG-1 Episode Foreshadowing... by Microlith · · Score: 1

      Except it's not the flip side because the only people the government can force to get vaccinated are soldiers. Forcing vaccines on people is not something that has been done, despite how many whiners there are in California.

    3. Re:SG-1 Episode Foreshadowing... by moeinvt · · Score: 2

      "... the only people the government can force to get vaccinated are soldiers."

      Nonsense. Coercion by threat of consequences is exactly the same as force. Requiring injections for kids as a precondition of their enrollment in taxpayer funded public schools is coercing people to make decisions which they might not otherwise make. That "do what we say or there will be consequences" approach is a perfect example of the way government uses force against The People. The threat of having their kids banned from taxpayer funded schools is "forcing" people to get their kids vaccinated because home schooling or private schooling requires resources many people don't have.

    4. Re:SG-1 Episode Foreshadowing... by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 2

      Seriously. We don't need government coercion, what we need are walls around our cities to keep the disease ridden, herd immunity breaking unvaccinated in the slums where they belong.

    5. Re:SG-1 Episode Foreshadowing... by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      A government can do bad things with any power, so you seem to be advocating anarchy.

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    6. Re:SG-1 Episode Foreshadowing... by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

      Those vaccinations also are not even required to even be approved by the FDA. They can also contain adjuncts that are illegal to be given to the general population. The anthrax vaccine that was forced upon me and all others in the military in the early 2000's was not approved by the FDA, it was experimental, and also a large portion of the vaccines(there were several variations) included adjuncts that are illegal in the United States.

  10. Frank Herbert covered what could go terribly wrong by msk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The White Plague.

  11. I am legend by Spy+Handler · · Score: 1

    From TFA: "engineered a piece of DNA that - when packaged inside inactive virus shells and injected..."

    I swear the scientists said almost the exact same thing in the movie "I am Legend"... and it caused the zombie apocalypse.

  12. Planned Parenthood by p51d007 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "A similar approach could one day spur the development of long-term birth control options for humans." Oh, wouldn't Margaret Sanger have loved this when she started that abortion milling organization. She could have single handed wiped out the black population, as she wanted, in a couple generations. On blacks, immigrants and indigents: "...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born." Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people On sterilization & racial purification: Sanger believed that, for the purpose of racial "purification," couples should be rewarded who chose sterilization. Birth Control in America, The Career of Margaret Sanger, by David Kennedy, p. 117, quoting a 1923 Sanger speech. On the right of married couples to bear children: Couples should be required to submit applications to have a child, she wrote in her "Plan for Peace." Birth Control Review, April 1932 On the purpose of birth control: The purpose in promoting birth control was "to create a race of thoroughbreds," she wrote in the Birth Control Review, Nov. 1921 (p. 2) On the rights of the handicapped and mentally ill, and racial minorities: "More children from the fit, less from the unfit -- that is the chief aim of birth control." Birth Control Review, May 1919, p. 12

    1. Re:Planned Parenthood by swb · · Score: 1

      What I find appalling about the anti-PP rhetoric is that it's really post-natal eugenics, given the insistence on having babies and the typically concomitant lack of funding for social welfare.

    2. Re:Planned Parenthood by thoromyr · · Score: 1

      Its also interesting that they attack Margaret Sanger rather than the activities of the organization. Look, she was a eugenicist, so everything she was associated with is the evil!

      For example, Planned Parenthood encourages family planning -- choosing when to have children rather than just having them happen. Are opponents concerned that some of their own might be convinced to have children when they are ready rather than as soon as they are in a relationship? Oh, the horrors!

    3. Re:Planned Parenthood by Vermonter · · Score: 1

      No, the concern of anti-abortionists is that they feel that an unborn child still has the right to life. Most pro-choicers seem to either ignore or not realize this, and keep shouting "it's the woman's choice", as if that were the flip side of the anti-abortionist argument. The discussion that needs to be had is not "does a woman have a right to an abortion?", it's "when does a human gain the right to life?"

    4. Re:Planned Parenthood by swb · · Score: 2

      I'm also inclined to give Sanger's eugenics a sort-of-pass.

      I think you don't have to swing a dead cat very far to find contemporary medical ethicists exploring some of the same issues Sanger was pretty gung-ho about. Like should a couple discover they both carry a gene which will result in a high probability of a child with birth defects have children? Such a child would likely impose a significant dollar costs, and since most people can't afford to self-fund such care, they will just be shifting those costs onto everyone else.

      The racialism and forced sterilization stuff seems distasteful (especially now), but there's a certain dark charitibility to her outlook when you consider the poverty, slums and misery of the poor of her historical era. All of the war on poverty money spent still hasn't cured poverty and the social costs of basically unchecked poverty seem to only perpetuate it.

      If you did implement some kind of eugenics, would we have "solved" the problem of poverty, or at least reduced the scale of poverty to the point where it was manageable as a social and economic cost and allowed social welfare spending to actually produce the results its supposed to? Or would it have been a serious problem in terms of shrinking populations and reduced economic growth?

      Could you implement a eugenic program in a way that wasn't coercively Orwellian? Could you model social welfare costs of poverty and offer some kind of net-positive cash benefit to people willing to be sterilized?

    5. Re:Planned Parenthood by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Or "When does a fetus turn human?" or "When does a human gain the right to life by being a parasite on another?".

      Besides that, I am under no legal obligation whatsoever to donate any of my tissue for the benefit of another. The only legal compulsion (where it exists) is pregnancy. Pregnancy is several months of hormonal whipsawing which includes discomfort (sometimes extreme), sometimes severe pain (frequently when giving birth), and a certain amount of danger. It restricts a woman's ability to work and conduct other activities.

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    6. Re:Planned Parenthood by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

      It is a human when it is no longer a parasite.

  13. Just in case by Kernel+Kurtz · · Score: 1

    ....Chernobyl tries to reclaim it's title.....

  14. Dont need long term.... by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's effortless to get the snip, then you don't have to worry if the doc does it right where it's non reversible. I.E. he snaps the vas, seals the ends then folds them back 1/2 an inch back on themselves and uses basically a surgical ziptie to hold them there. there is ZERO chance of the Vas reconnecting.

    Real men get their Vas snipped. You do not "need" to have any more kids.

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    1. Re:Dont need long term.... by trout007 · · Score: 1

      Sure if your goal is to see Idiocracy come true. I think the world would be vastly superior if /.ers had 4+ kids.

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    2. Re:Dont need long term.... by subreality · · Score: 1

      there is ZERO chance of the Vas reconnecting.

      "Very rarely, tubes grow back together again and pregnancy may occur. This happens in about 1 out of 1,000 cases."

      Of course, that's probably a much lower failure rate than the injections discussed in TFA.

    3. Re:Dont need long term.... by Microlith · · Score: 1

      You missed the important bit, the part about the goal being a reversible contraceptive. You can snipped after you've had all the kids you'll have.

    4. Re:Dont need long term.... by sociocapitalist · · Score: 1

      You do not "need" to have any more kids.

      That being said, most kids grow up to vote so having more kids = supporting your way of life.

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    5. Re:Dont need long term.... by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Effortless? I spent some unpleasant time at the clinic (protip: you do not necessarily want a vasectomy surgeon with a sense of humor), and then some recovery time at home. There was a fair amount of pain involved. Not to mention that you had best be extremely sure you will never want to father a child again.

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  15. Re:What about humans? by ma++i+ude · · Score: 1

    This is /. so nobody is expecting you to read the article. But could you perhaps try to read all the way to the end of the one paragraph summary?

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  16. Re:Can't wait for eugenics to come back... by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

    or the room with the euthanization cocktails that feeds into a nearby soylent factory.

    FTFY

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  17. Re:Can it target certain races? Dr. Death's wet dr by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

    Let's hope Israel employs it ASAP in self-defense...

    They already try to induce abortions in heavily pregnant Palestinian women by keeping them in hot cars at checkpoints for several hours at a stretch.

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  18. great idea by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    So arm up some guys with dart guns and run around shooting stray cats. Obviously they would get shirts that say "professional pussy hunter." You can actually get those on ebay already.

  19. Re:Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That is not how evolution work. If one can breed lots of babies and make them someone else problem that is the trait that will be selected.

    The only solution is to not care about someone else children. And if they can't feed them, then they should die from starvation. Feeding the poor is just bad as 'determine eligibility'. Let nature determine eligibility.

    If you are too soft to let stranger's children die then accept welfare recipient sterilisation. It is, after all, the humane thing to do. Personally I think that, like everything that is 'the humane thing to do', are more bad than good. But I am not the one moved by hungry children.

  20. "Children of Men" by FoolishBluntman · · Score: 1

    I think this is a good premise for a new scifi film like "Children of Men" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt02....
    You know, virus gets out, most of the world loses the ability to have children.
    Come on, what could possibly go wrong?

  21. Horizontal Gene Transfer by clovis · · Score: 1

    The real fun begins when some of that DNA gets picked up by an E. Coli.

  22. Re:Great by Darinbob · · Score: 1

    People who suggest forced stelization should be sterilized. Oh wait...

  23. Pigeons? by treczoks · · Score: 1

    Yes, I am aware that pigeons are birds and therefor a different domain as mammals, and that there might be some differences in the biochemistry here, but I hope they work something out to get those flying rats under control.

  24. Re:Will this help? by goose-incarnated · · Score: 2

    To mods: That's a big bang theory reference that's in another story on today's front page.

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  25. Sounds frightful by cfalcon · · Score: 2

    Invoking autoimmune disorders sounds like a poor idea in pets, and a nightmare in humans. That's what this is. And that's before you get to the possibility that you could absolutely have a future organization that has the desire to eliminate human births, but doesn't have the will to kill humans (and also, that would get them stopped faster), so they use a tech like this. The fact that it's being developed doesn't mean that will happen, but the fact that it's possible should be at least a bit scary.

  26. "Children of Men" - The Prequel by RealGene · · Score: 1

    The only thing that could go wrong with this is... everything.

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  27. Title Could Have Been by westcountyboy · · Score: 1

    "Scientists Invent New Way for Humanity to Destroy Itself" A few possibilities that come to mind are: - Using the vaccine against someone someone doesn't like. Arabs, Palestinians, blacks, Hindus, Israelis, White men in golf shirts. - Adding it other vaccines - only in certain selected areas of course. - Inadvertent contamination, intentional or not - genetic modification to include into food, etc. - release of the carrier virus into the wild using a common vector - Work begins immediately on an oral form

  28. Re:Great by laie_techie · · Score: 1

    Oops, I made a typo (but I hope people recognize what I wanted to say). It happens when your brain is faster than your hands.

    This should be given to all welfare recipients and their dependents. Immediately.

    I could not disagree more. Just because someone is down on their luck now does not mean they won't get back up. BTW, I agree that people should NOT make babies unless they are able to provide for them (but I don't trust any organization to determine eligibility).

  29. Re:Great by laie_techie · · Score: 1

    That is not how evolution work. If one can breed lots of babies and make them someone else problem that is the trait that will be selected.

    That is not how evolution works. Any time an individual breeds, their genes are propagated to the next generation, but that does not exclude other individuals with conflicting genes from also contributing to the gene pool. As an example, take a look at hair color. Obviously different people have different preferences as to their mate's hair color. Since it is not only blondes who procreate, other hair colors will remain in the gene pool. Furthermore, the trait you are addressing (having a knack of making one's offspring someone else's responsibility) does not manifest itself until after one has already procreated. It is similar to male pattern baldness which normally kicks in after most are already married. Additionally, I would argue that taking abusing the welfare system is a learned trait, and not something genetically transferred to the next generation.

    The only solution is to not care about someone else children. And if they can't feed them, then they should die from starvation. Feeding the poor is just bad as 'determine eligibility'. Let nature determine eligibility.

    That is too harsh. You need to distinguish between a family going through a bad patch of a few years and a third-generation recipient of welfare. A better solution would be to put the children in some else's custody at least temporarily. The children have committed no sin to deserve to suffer such dire consequences of their parents' actions.

    If you are too soft to let stranger's children die then accept welfare recipient sterilisation. It is, after all, the humane thing to do. Personally I think that, like everything that is 'the humane thing to do', are more bad than good. But I am not the one moved by hungry children.

  30. Re:Long-term Birth Control by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

    I want something like this very badly. Sorry women, but I don't trust any of you when it comes to birth control.

  31. Re:Great by laie_techie · · Score: 1

    I've for sterilizing them. If they work hard and are successful, let them do in-vitro.

    Do you know how in-vitro works? In vitro just means that they combine eggs and sperm in a petridish then implant the fertilized eggs into the uterus. This sterilization vaccine causes men to no longer produce viable sperm. The only way to reproduce would involve cloning or direct gene splicing.