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China Arrests Hackers At Behest of US Government (washingtonpost.com)
An anonymous reader writes: For the first time, the Chinese government has arrested a group of hackers at the request of the United States. The hackers are suspected of having "stolen commercial secrets" from companies in the U.S., which were then passed on to Chinese competitors. "The arrests come amid signs of a potential change in the power balance between the U.S. and Chinese governments on commercial cyberespionage, one of the most fraught issues between the two countries. For years, U.S. firms and officials have said Beijing hasn't done enough to crack down on digital larceny." It's a big first step in establishing a functional cybersecurity relationship between the two nations. Now, everyone will be watching to see if China follows up the arrests with prosecution. "A public trial is important not only because that would be consistent with established principles of criminal justice, but because it could discourage other would-be hackers and show that the arrests were not an empty gesture."
Who ends up with their kidneys?
Was "American'.
If they start cracking down they'll just move... we need more innovation and coop when it comes security. We should hold the companies liable for their poor firmware and software that way they actually care about it.
The only people that were arrested were individuals that no longer had enough favor to block the arrest.
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on behalf of China! Isn't that great folks, China can arrest you Americans too!
Regardless, lacking evidence to the contrary I'd expect this to be mostly for show. So these hackers may get their trial. And be punished. But not before they've handed over their spoils so that Chinese government and/or manufacturers can put "stolen commercial secrets" to productive use.
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Someone should pass this on to the US.
*cough* Guantanamo .
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... now if only they would go after those chinese assholes who keep trying to hack my ssh server.
Being hacked is a sign that your security is inadequate and most likely your department is being ran by idiots. The only reason the government gets involved is because these same idiots that got hacked want to shift the blame.
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This is a change in dynamics. Two big things are going on: (1) Americans are probably being more successful at hacking, and (2) China is developing more IP. Historically, rising nations steal IP rampantly until they are mature and developing their own IP in a serious way, then they begin cracking down. The United States did it with textile technology back in the 1800s.
Communism looks like it is working better than what ever America is.
This news makes zero sense to me, which really just goes to show how totally ignorant I am about it. (nudge nudge)
The only people that were arrested were individuals that no longer had enough favor to block the arrest.
Of course. That's the same reason why the US never arrest those corrupt officials who have fled to the US from China, they got enough money to pay their protection money in US.
No, I didn't RTFA. But it seems summary worthy to give any available highlights. There are some secrets I'd probably be uncomfortable with some chinese citizens stealing from the U.S. But there are probably plenty that would seem ethically justifiable to me in light of human rights violations by the Chinese government. If they were stealing secrets to help seed a democratic revolution, then I say fuck yeah go for it. But if they just want to make a few dollars that U.S. companies that don't deserve to be in jail would have made, then I guess maybe it's a lesser of evils situation.
"*cough* Guantanamo"
To name just one.
That's not even one. Guantanamo Bay holds prisoners of war, not common criminals from the civilian criminal justice system. It is entirely legitimate to hold them without trial, that's the way it works.
Ever heard about the Geneva Convention?
Here's an excerpt:
Art 103. Judicial investigations relating to a prisoner of war shall be conducted as rapidly as circumstances permit and so that his trial shall take place as soon as possible. A prisoner of war shall not be confined while awaiting trial unless a member of the armed forces of the Detaining Power would be so confined if he were accused of a similar offence, or if it is essential to do so in the interests of national security. In no circumstances shall this confinement exceed three months.
For stealing Airbus bids for a fleet of planes and selling that to Boeing so they can win the contract?
How about the hackers who fucked over the Russian pipelines?
i see you never read anything about rome, sodom and gomorrea.
otherwise you would not be so germanically naive.
The creditor state gets to run the internal affairs of the debtor states. That ought to mean that US personnel (debtors) act at the behest of CCP/PLA personnel (creditors).
Since when does the piper pay a tune other that what the one who pays him call?
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