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China Arrests Hackers At Behest of US Government (washingtonpost.com)
An anonymous reader writes: For the first time, the Chinese government has arrested a group of hackers at the request of the United States. The hackers are suspected of having "stolen commercial secrets" from companies in the U.S., which were then passed on to Chinese competitors. "The arrests come amid signs of a potential change in the power balance between the U.S. and Chinese governments on commercial cyberespionage, one of the most fraught issues between the two countries. For years, U.S. firms and officials have said Beijing hasn't done enough to crack down on digital larceny." It's a big first step in establishing a functional cybersecurity relationship between the two nations. Now, everyone will be watching to see if China follows up the arrests with prosecution. "A public trial is important not only because that would be consistent with established principles of criminal justice, but because it could discourage other would-be hackers and show that the arrests were not an empty gesture."
If they start cracking down they'll just move... we need more innovation and coop when it comes security. We should hold the companies liable for their poor firmware and software that way they actually care about it.
The only people that were arrested were individuals that no longer had enough favor to block the arrest.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
Regardless, lacking evidence to the contrary I'd expect this to be mostly for show. So these hackers may get their trial. And be punished. But not before they've handed over their spoils so that Chinese government and/or manufacturers can put "stolen commercial secrets" to productive use.
Brought to you by the copy-first-ask-questions-later dept.
Someone should pass this on to the US.
*cough* Guantanamo .
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This is a change in dynamics. Two big things are going on: (1) Americans are probably being more successful at hacking, and (2) China is developing more IP. Historically, rising nations steal IP rampantly until they are mature and developing their own IP in a serious way, then they begin cracking down. The United States did it with textile technology back in the 1800s.
What *is* native? The human species has been migrating extensively between continents since its beginnings. A few thousand years or even tens of thousands of years one way or another is still a drop in the bucket in terms of the ancient age of the species and its predecessors.
To claim that some group or other is "native" - and thus somehow privileged or entitled - because it migrated slightly earlier, or didn't use ships or something silly like that is totally bunk.
Every human being on Earth is a native and deserves full right to where they are. All this crap about celebrating "natives" is a just a form of bigotry and racism, and of one group trying to claim entitlement which they don't deserve.
Alright, I'm going to move into your house and claim part of it for myself.
So you'll be moving out of your mom's basement?
Or blocked by budget or "we don't support that, don't touch it" policies from upgrading or maintaining old systems.
Technically we are all African.
Yeah, and I sure hope execthis' house has a basement too!
Technically we're all star dust.
"Do you own this land?"
"No. How can you own land?"
I have no idea if the other guy is a racist asshole or not, but I know you're ignorant of history.
In my own State, only a small percent of the land was claimed by locals inhabitants. For the most part, settlers settled anywhere that didn't already somebody living there, and the people living next door usually agreed they had every right to settle on unused land.
This obviously doesn't apply everywhere, but in the majority of cases it does. And there were brand new cultures that were recently founded after the Spanish brought a bunch horses over. Those are the groups that actually had the most military conflict with Americans.
I'm part Cherokee and we lost our lands, but that isn't what happened in most places. In most places they were simply outnumbered by the newcomers, and so lost administrative power over areas. And then were given "reservations" in order to have an area of administrative control. In many cases, control that they didn't have over their neighbors culturally prior to the creation of the reservations!
Technically we're all star dust.
I'm part hydrogen you insensitive clod!
No, you are wholly processed hydrogen.
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Technically we are all insensitive clods.
Table-ized A.I.
We declare ownership of your mom's basement in the name of Slashdot!
Now, where did I put that damned flag?
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"*cough* Guantanamo"
To name just one.
That's not even one. Guantanamo Bay holds prisoners of war, not common criminals from the civilian criminal justice system. It is entirely legitimate to hold them without trial, that's the way it works.
Ever heard about the Geneva Convention?
Here's an excerpt:
Art 103. Judicial investigations relating to a prisoner of war shall be conducted as rapidly as circumstances permit and so that his trial shall take place as soon as possible. A prisoner of war shall not be confined while awaiting trial unless a member of the armed forces of the Detaining Power would be so confined if he were accused of a similar offence, or if it is essential to do so in the interests of national security. In no circumstances shall this confinement exceed three months.
Once they've been ethnically cleansed, they don't get a vote.
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In the kingdom of the insensitive clods, the partially-sensate clod is king!
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The OP doesn't believe in human error. He certainly never typed "your department is being ran by idiots."
Past participle, your time is now.
Check the printer. You know you don't buy physical things that aren't electronic or that you can't eat.
Yup, get accused of state sponsored hacking, pick out a few undesirables that have protested, arrest them as hackers. Even if they never saw a keyboard. win-win!
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"Does this mean we're fired?"
Sorry kiddo, thanks for playing! But no, your pedanticism falls on its face. The differentiation you're saying "no" to is that everything that isn't hydrogen is star dust. Pointing out that that means that star dust is processed hydrogen is a "yes," not a "no." That was actually the point. It is that act of "processing" that creates "star dust." *whoosh*
What he said was we're "all" star dust. I was pointing out that the portions of me that are still hydrogen are not star dust. It was a play on the word "all," primarily. Attempting to label the star dust as still being hydrogen, which seems to actually dispute that the periodic elements are different substances, combined with the word "no" attempts to offer a correction, but is actually not even hitting the point. Even if it were so, it would in no way change the prior exchange. The helium is no longer hydrogen, but the H2O still has some. Even though the helium was made "from" hydrogen.