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How Amazon's Monster Erotica Book Ban Shaped CloudFlare's Censorship Stance (zdnet.com)
An anonymous reader writes with news that CloudFlare chief executive Matthew Prince recently spoke about how Amazon's ban on "monster erotica" helped shape his position on censorship. ZDNet reports: "I worry about Jeff Bezos' bizarre obsession with dinosaur sex," said Prince, towards the end of a long conversation in our New York newsroom. "I don't think I've ever heard a chief executive -- hell, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything like that before," I said. Prince was referring to how the bookseller and online retail giant banned so-called "monster erotica," a genre of fan-fiction revolving around fantasy-based fictional encounters with mythical or extinct creatures (including dinosaurs), which was for a time sold on its online bookstore. Amazon, according to reports, pulled hundreds of the self-published books it sold -- as well as some content that fetishized incest and rape -- despite "vague" guidelines by the retailer. "You can make a rational argument that if you're writing books fantasizing about having sex with animals or children, maybe that promotes a certain kind of behavior. But there's no risk of someone abusing a dinosaur," he said.
It is indecent towards dinosaurs and hurts their feelings.
Weird people shouldn't have sexual fantasies. It scares boring normal people.
Is a money thing. Other sites like Smashwords spells it out more thoroughly. The claim is that they are unable to keep up with the requests for refunds due to bad porn and people who claim they didn't really buy it and risk having their merchant licenses pulled.
Here's to losing my Karma Bonus again....
Uh, http://rent-a-chicken.net/
Short-armed Tyrannosaurs are poorly served by erotic literature.
A dinosaur is an animal. Therefore someone fantasizes about screwing a dinosaur is going to be more open-minded toward animals that actually live today.
Funny thing about all of this chick erotica about vampires and werewolves is that it's obviously socially-approved necrophilia and beastiality. A vampire is an undead creature; basically a sexy zombie with full mental faculties. A werewolf? Changes into a wolf or a wolf-man beast. It doesn't need to get too much more analytic to realize that this is just a way to flirt with a taboo without going too far down the rabbit hole.
No, but somebody please! Think of the whales...
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Where's the "rancid assholes" guy when you need him? Here's your story chance!
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Uh, Amazon didn't ban monster erotica - or dino erotica: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb... http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb... The guy clearly doesn't know what he us talking about
Quick! Someone get over to Wikipedia and add a paragraph on this subject to the 'chicken' entry.
Have gnu, will travel.
I've seen the movies. They come back. It gets ugly.
The enemy of my enemy is quite possibly also my enemy. I've made a lot of enemies.
You are obviously male and confused. Essentially all the human-dinosaur sex fantasies are of male dinosaurs having regular (especially vaginal) sex with female people. The novels of those fantasies are hardly ever bought by men.
no, you can't. you can only make an irrational argument for that assertion.
otherwise the videogames, movies, television, toys, the population consume day in and day out would have resulted in "promoting" that behavior. but it doesn't. Instead, society continues to think that murder and etc is a bad thing. because of course it is. as is sex with children. people who engage in that kind of shit (and I mean actually engage in it, not have sex with or photograph some willing teenager or pee on some bush or leave the curtains open and so on) are waaaay out on the end of the behavioral norms and it wouldn't matter if you showed them pictures of flowers and sand mandalas, they still want to have sex with children. because they are broken and don't understand that children are not sexual creatures. not because "i sawz it in a book derp"
as for sex with animals, I wish you'd convince my damned dog of that as the horny little bastard keeps trying to have sex with my leg.
Especially considering that the Everyday Life with Monster Girls series of manga is regularly in the best sellers list?
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CloudFlare blocks visits from endpoints that are common sources of malicious behaviour - unfortunately, that includes TOR endpoints for obvious reasons.
The reality is that sites don't want to get attacked.
Quick! Someone get over to Wikipedia and add a paragraph on this subject to the 'chicken' entry.
I think things like 'chicken entry' is exactly what's being banned at Amazon.
Pretending this is my office full of bitter coworkers..
https://www.google.com/search?...
"You can make a rational argument that if you're writing books fantasizing about having sex with animals or children, maybe that promotes a certain kind of behavior. ..."
People have said the same thing about a lot of other stuff;
racing video games: your going to speed IRL
FPS video games: Your going to start shooting people IRL (how many times have we heard that one?)
RPGs; your going to go nuts and think your a High Elf ranger fighting monsters IRL
Read adult magazines/watch porn: your going to become a rapist IRL.
And yet, to the best of my knowledge, there has never been a causal link proven despite years of studies.
Prince probably freaked out because he got an erection looking at an anthropomorphized velociraptor.
"You can make a rational argument that if you're writing books [sic] fantasizing about having sex with animals or children, maybe that promotes a certain kind of behaviour."
The same way as writing books about murder mystery or war will promote a certain kind of behaviour to kill ?
Why don't we ban such books too? Oh, and let's ban history books as they may also promote a certain kind of behaviour to repeat...
Surely dinosaurs had cloacas as well? (soft tissue issues are hard, granted ;)) If the target audience is females preferring intercourse, then the creatures surely belong to the category of fantasy creatures, and everything goes as stated.
> Then they came for the dinophiles, and I did not speak out because I was not a dinophile.
I mean, it's not like you can jump straight to banning [insert] in porn, you gotta boil the frog slowly.
For extra ridicule, put "banning blacks" in.
Does the dinosaur have to be 18 or over?
Table-ized A.I.
"I worry about Jeff Bezos' bizarre obsession with dinosaur sex,"
I'm starting to forget when a statement like this was never even contextually apropos, much less relevant to the topic, in a semi-mainstream news story. The times, they are a-getting unidentifiable.
http://www.apex-magazine.com/i...
I know this story pissed off those guys who tried to rig the Hugo awards, but banning the whole genre seems a bit extreme.
You are obviously male and confused. Essentially all the human-dinosaur sex fantasies are of male dinosaurs having regular (especially vaginal) sex with female people. The novels of those fantasies are hardly ever bought by men.
Since the fantasy is aimed at female readers, does that mean the dinosaurs have to take the women in the stories out to dinner and on long walks together before doing the deed?
see, there you go. That's exactly what we're talking about, people like you fantasizing about dinosaur's sex organs. Well, that filth might pass here on slashdot but at least amazon is walking the path of censored righteousness.
While I personally find the stuff to be indecent at best, who am I to tell anyone what is decent.
Yeah, I think it's weird, but I don't see the harm in it. What kind of terrible things do people think will happen by allowing dino-porn?
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
Vaginal Fantasy book club did "Taken By The T-Rex":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
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CloudFlare blocks Tor in practice, by endlessly forcing Tor users to fill out captcha pages. How is that not censorship?
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I doubt Amazon would ban a book detailing how to do a real world harm, say: A detailed manual on how to loot a corporate pension fund and defer the retirement health insurance payments until bankruptcy can be declared. All without getting prosecuted for it. (And, I'd agree that odious though it was, a book about it shouldn't be prohibited.)
But, we can get all bent out of shape and restrict things, especially sex, that meets someone's definition of "icky" or "scary", regardless that it's fiction about things that do not exist outside of human imaginations.
I'm reminded of a person who, when looking for a roommate at college was visibly overstressed by worry that I had a copy of the DnD Players Guide. He assured me that the demons could use the pictures on the cover to come into our world.
I was glad he didn't want to be a roommate, as I was convinced he was mental.
How is this getting bent out of shape over something fictional much different?
They obviously had to make way for the censorship fetish porn, such as the above summary.
Inheritance is the sincerest form of nepotism.
How exactly would that work, given that dinosaurs probably didn't have penises?
What the hell am I wasting my time typing this for?
TIL the CEO of CloudFlare is into Dinosaur sex stories.
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Since the fantasy is aimed at female readers, does that mean the dinosaurs have to take the women in the stories out to dinner and on long walks together before doing the deed?
Women want to have sex without preamble too, but a lot of them have been convinced otherwise so apparently they have to fantasize about fucking lizards in order to just get down to it.
I've known some glorious counterexamples, this isn't about sexism, this is about society.
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Perhaps he saw something featuring Uncle Fester and thought it was parodying him?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
It means that T-Rex get shafted because their tiny hands can't provide the required back rub.
Only in the human male on female t-rex fantasy novels.
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