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Hundreds of Southwest Flights Delayed By Online Booking Problems

An anonymous reader writes: A technology problem delayed hundreds of Southwest Airlines flights Sunday while the airline checked-in passengers manually at airports. Around 300 flights had been delayed as of Sunday afternoon. In a statement on its website, Southwest said intermittent technical issues "are impacting website performance in creating new bookings and requiring us to process some customers manually as they arrive for travel."

36 comments

  1. Frosty by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

    Odds on it's due to systemd.

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    1. Re:Frosty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Odds on it's due to systemd.

      Nah, I'm sure it's Bush's fault.

    2. Re:Frosty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unlikely, since its probably more related to a code change from the TPF operating system which is the core of SouthWest's reservation system.

    3. Re:Frosty by davester666 · · Score: 1

      He decides who flies today!

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    4. Re:Frosty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But systemd is Bush's fault! He hates us and wants us to die.

    5. Re:Frosty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those goddam cover sheets.

  2. An article the same day? by snorris01 · · Score: 2

    News for nerds on the same day that it matters? Nice.

    I hope therer isn't too much flail resulting from this. Flying in the US is already painful enough.

    1. Re:An article the same day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Submitter is anonymous and poster is samzenpus

      0 + 1 = 1?

    2. Re:An article the same day? by wvmarle · · Score: 2

      Wonder why every little issue with aviation is newsworthy.

      A couple thousand people delayed/inconvenienced due to computer glitch - headline news! Big problems! Get out the disaster mitigation plans!

      Millions of people lost personal information to identity thieves: minor issue.

      Tens of thousands killed in the US-supported civil wars (supported by massive weapons supplies - which recently I read are being increased significantly in the wake of Russia's involvement) in the Middle East: no problem, as that's not Americans/Europeans dying, and they're fighting "some evil regime".

      Even hurricanes that swamp and knock out parts of Manhattan (without anyone wondering how come the US is so ill prepared against a bigger-than-average rainfall) for weeks, and it's barely as much reported on as a little aviation-related issue.

    3. Re:An article the same day? by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

      Wonder why every little issue with aviation is newsworthy.

      Because aviation is a utility. The same things come through when power is out to lots, or such. And bonus to the "nerd" part is that it involves online bookings.

      Even hurricanes that swamp and knock out parts of Manhattan for weeks, and it's barely as much reported on as a little aviation-related issue.

      No, it's covered here, in great detail. People talk about the power junctions under the road not being water tight, the pumps for the tunnels not working, the power lines buried vs above ground, Global Warming's role in the storm. I see lots of articles when big storms bother many people.

  3. Hunnert dollers ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... to a hole in a donut it's a breach.

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  4. What the fuck is wrong with Southwest's IT dept? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    This isn't the first time Southwest has had problems with their system capacity. A few months ago they had a fare sale and the resulting traffic locked up both their website and their call center. How hard is it to build autoscaling for their reservation system? Apparently really, really hard.

  5. Did this problem make it better than the usual? by NMBob · · Score: 1

    After flying a lot for years I hadn't flown for a couple years until a few weeks ago. I've never seen it take as long to get through the gate as it did on this trip and 100% of the delay was from people trying to get the scanners to read their phones/pads. It was pretty funny.

    1. Re:Did this problem make it better than the usual? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been using my mobile for months to check in, and fly 4-6 times a month. Not true.

    2. Re:Did this problem make it better than the usual? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      technology isn't always 'the cure' .. there's something to be said for having less tech and more human involvement and interaction.

      the time it takes to get through the airport check-in process is 250-500% longer than it was a generation ago. the people were friendlier, the service much better, threats near-zero, and you weren't basically buying a ticket for every piece of luggage you want to take on your trip. technology has not made it safer, faster, more pleasant, and certainly not cheaper, to fly today.

      long gone are the days of being able to go from curbside to luggage checked (for free) to boarding pass in hand in under 10 minutes and being seated in aircraft with drink (free) in hand in under 30... and for less money and fewer hassles and restrictions than the 3 hour ordeal of today, complete with being physically assaulted during 'security screening', and having your luggage 'lightened' of expensive items by crooked 'security' agents.

    3. Re:Did this problem make it better than the usual? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I've been using my mobile for months to check in, and fly 4-6 times a month. Not true.

      You didn't even bother to speak to whether it took any longer to scan your mobile than to scan a paper boarding pass, but you want to claim that your half an anecdote makes the GP's anecdote "not true"? These English and logic things are new for you, eh?

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  6. Computer down by Intron · · Score: 1

    I was at a big box store yesterday when the computer went down. They called all the cashiers to the service desk and passed out kits of multipart forms so that they could manually write orders. However, they had to look up prices on the website using their personal phones, since most items just had bar codes, and none of the cashiers had ever had to compute tax on a calculator before. It was hilarious.

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    1. Re:Computer down by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      However, they had to look up prices on the website using their personal phones, since most items just had bar codes

      Did you offer to help them... with the Amazon app?

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  7. Southwest did a pretty good job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    To their credit, SW handled it very well on the flights I took today. Baggage was fine and the boarding process was ordered to revert to paper boarding passes. People with e-passes were simply required to show ID. Flights were delayed maybe half an hour. Not bad for a nationwide infrastructure outage.

  8. Freaking Nightmare by MerlynDavis · · Score: 1

    Having been caught in this mess, mainly due to a delayed flight, what was a simple, one layover 6 hour flight, turned into a three layover 12 hour odyssey, where I'm fairly certain that I only got my luggage to me due to sheer luck.

    I've never had this much trouble flying...

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  9. CALL SCORPION by lucm · · Score: 1

    They should send choppers with spies and shit to get Scorpion from his low-key digs so he can fix that control tower. It worked in Season 1.

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  10. I blame Castiel by lucm · · Score: 1

    Maybe they use AWS EC2 and all the capacity got sucked in by Netflix, who just released Supernatural Season 10...

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  11. Re:What the fuck is wrong with Southwest's IT dept by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Southwest sold its soul to Bangalore and is now enjoying the benefits.

  12. You're barfing on the wrong tree by lucm · · Score: 1

    Tens of thousands killed in the US-supported civil wars (supported by massive weapons supplies [blablabla]

    You want stories about a major airline's IT infrastructure shitting itself? Slashdot is the right place.

    You want stories about the latest twitter feud between Katy Perry and the Kardashians? Go on TMZ or people.com

    You want to discuss your alleged "US-supported civil wars", Bush's crime against humanity or the plot to discredit Hillary Clinton? Go see Mother Jones or some other left wing website.

    To each his own, and if you don't respect that there's other websites for you out there, lookup the website of the Westboro Baptist Church or the various youtube channels supporting ISIS, those people also think they know what matters and what doesn't.

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    1. Re:You're barfing on the wrong tree by wvmarle · · Score: 1

      Tens of thousands killed in the US-supported civil wars (supported by massive weapons supplies [blablabla]

      You want stories about a major airline's IT infrastructure shitting itself? Slashdot is the right place.

      You want stories about the latest twitter feud between Katy Perry and the Kardashians? Go on TMZ or people.com

      You want to discuss your alleged "US-supported civil wars", Bush's crime against humanity or the plot to discredit Hillary Clinton? Go see Mother Jones or some other left wing website.

      To each his own, and if you don't respect that there's other websites for you out there, lookup the website of the Westboro Baptist Church or the various youtube channels supporting ISIS, those people also think they know what matters and what doesn't.

      The story is not much about the IT infrastructure, as it is about the number of inconvenienced people and flight delays. Barely a word on the technical side of what went wrong and how it's being solved (which would for most of this tech and IT minded crowd be quite interesting), and what's said about that part is mostly marketing speak. How does this make the story slashdot-worthy? Just because it involved computers?

    2. Re:You're barfing on the wrong tree by lucm · · Score: 1

      Tens of thousands killed in the US-supported civil wars (supported by massive weapons supplies [blablabla]

      You want stories about a major airline's IT infrastructure shitting itself? Slashdot is the right place.

      You want stories about the latest twitter feud between Katy Perry and the Kardashians? Go on TMZ or people.com

      You want to discuss your alleged "US-supported civil wars", Bush's crime against humanity or the plot to discredit Hillary Clinton? Go see Mother Jones or some other left wing website.

      To each his own, and if you don't respect that there's other websites for you out there, lookup the website of the Westboro Baptist Church or the various youtube channels supporting ISIS, those people also think they know what matters and what doesn't.

      The story is not much about the IT infrastructure, as it is about the number of inconvenienced people and flight delays. Barely a word on the technical side of what went wrong and how it's being solved (which would for most of this tech and IT minded crowd be quite interesting), and what's said about that part is mostly marketing speak. How does this make the story slashdot-worthy? Just because it involved computers?

      Well, you've got a point there. I went to read the article but there wasn't a bit of technical information. I was hoping for some details, maybe an opportunity to bitch about Indian subcontractors like with that whole RBS fiasco a while back, but nothing. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

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  13. Re:What the fuck is wrong with Southwest's IT dept by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are doing the needful.

  14. Re:What the fuck is wrong with Southwest's IT dept by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 1

    These reservation systems are actually technological marvels and a bit of a miracle that they work at all. They often not only track purchases, but they also have to dynamically self-correct for delays. If a plane full of people in Houston are delayed 3 hours then it has to begin a system wide dependency calculation to find them all seats on later flights. I can see just at a glance how that would be a nightmare to distribute and scale easily. You can't have a race condition where two delayed flights try to put all of their passengers who will miss connections onto the same flight. And then you get into the calculation "do you delay another flight so that delayed connecting passengers can make their connection but then cause passengers on the that flight to miss their next connection... which is worse?" etc.

  15. Re:What the fuck is wrong with Southwest's IT dept by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    So how much of that is actually done automagically and how much is actually done by a person in a box, with the system simply sorting out the details?

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  16. Why the delay? by Murdoch5 · · Score: 1

    I love when the technology goes does, you see how little people actually know or care about there job. I'd be very surprised if any of the airport employees were working at even 20% of an acceptable speed. The technology is only an aid, not a replacement, you have to be ready to jump when it fails and kick into full blown action.

    1. Re: Why the delay? by nwf · · Score: 1

      Most people print their boarding passes at home. Due to the outage, they couldn't do everyone had to wait in line at the airport.

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  17. Re:What the fuck is wrong with Southwest's IT dept by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I work at at airline in the operations team (not SouthWest). Here it's all done by people.

  18. Re:What the fuck is wrong with Southwest's IT dept by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Being an airline, they just do everything in the least logical way possible and the passengers have no choice but to suck it up and do what they're told. No need to optimize anything here.

  19. Re: Did this problem make it better than the usual by AvitarX · · Score: 1

    My check in involves filling out a couple web forms at home or while driving the the airport.

    Check in is infinitely faster than it used to be, most airports have faster security too (not all though).

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  20. Re: Did this problem make it better than the usual by BranMan · · Score: 1

    I second this - things are much faster, for me at least. Manchester NH is my "30 minute airport". I live a couple of towns over and I can:
    1) Get up off my couch
    2) Grab my bags
    3) Get in the car and drive to the airport
    4) Park long term
    5) Check in at the counter (I check my bag, not carry it on)
    6) Go through security
    7) Get through the airport so I am standing in front of my plane's gate.

          All in 30 minutes or less. Who could ask for more?