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Playboy Drops Nudity As Internet Fills Demand

HughPickens.com writes: Ravi Somaiya reports in the NY Times that as part of a redesign that will be unveiled next March, the print edition of Playboy Magazine will still feature women in provocative poses but they will no longer be fully nude. "That battle has been fought and won," says CEO Scott Flanders. "You're now one click away from every sex act imaginable for free. And so it's just passé at this juncture." According to Somaiya, for a generation of American men, reading Playboy was a cultural rite, an illicit thrill consumed by flashlight. Now every teenage boy has an Internet-connected phone instead. Pornographic magazines, even those as storied as Playboy, have lost their shock value, their commercial value and their cultural relevance. The magazine will adopt a cleaner, more modern style. There will still be a Playmate of the Month, but the pictures will be "PG-13" and less produced — more like the racier sections of Instagram. "A little more accessible, a little more intimate," says Flancers. It is not yet decided whether there will still be a centerfold.

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  1. Going out of business ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So after 60+ years Playboy is going to make themselves completely irrelevant? I mean, who is actually going to buy it now?

    Sure, the internet is full of smut, but Playboy was always a little classier.

    Now they're, what exactly? I just don't see people wanting to buy Playboy with no nudity. At that point, get a Victoria's Secret catalog.

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    1. Re:Going out of business ... by cdrudge · · Score: 2

      I just don't see people wanting to buy Playboy with no nudity. At that point, get a Victoria's Secret catalog.

      It's worse. The catalog at least had attractive women on every page.

      Playboy will now be just like every other men's magazine like GQ, Maxim, et al - maybe an article or two worth reading, many pages of paid product placements in articles, and a bunch of clothing no sane reasonable person would ever wear or buy.

    2. Re:Going out of business ... by Trepidity · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's not really about the magazine anymore, nowadays they're trying to manage it as a lifestyle/luxury brand. They have branded merchandise that's highly profitable and expanding in China, for example. They're also trying to get bigger into the "online content" thing, which was being harmed by the nudity... not having nudity makes it easier for people to share stuff on Facebook or email articles to people and whatever.

    3. Re:Going out of business ... by MouseR · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The I read it for the articles joke was actually not so much of a joke for many. Tities notwithstanding, there were some good material in that magazine, including famous writers participations. Asimov being one of the many.

      But without the pink, there will be little left in there that can't be gotten online anyhow.

    4. Re:Going out of business ... by Panoptes · · Score: 5, Funny

      "a bunch of clothing no sane reasonable person would ever wear or buy."

      You might say they're exchanging tit for tat.

    5. Re: Going out of business ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      You might, but then you'd be making a bad joke.

    6. Re:Going out of business ... by tripleevenfall · · Score: 2

      People who use porn can get it for free anywhere. They need to reinvent themselves or go out of business.

    7. Re:Going out of business ... by kheldan · · Score: 2

      Now they're, what exactly? I just don't see people wanting to buy Playboy with no nudity. At that point, get a Victoria's Secret catalog

      Exactly, precisely this, plus: While it's completely true that you can find 'every imaginable sex act for free' on the Internet, the quality of the women in online porn videos is rarely, if ever, up to the standards that Playboy has traditionally upheld. Playboy was always the gold standard in that regard; women featured in the magazine didn't need to be masturbating (with or without toys), or engaging in intercourse, in order to be incredibly arousing. Second-tier was always Penthouse, featuring almost Playboy level women, but with more outright sex.. then there was Oui, Hustler, and so on.. Playboy might survive on the quality of it's non-pictorial related content, but I wouldn't hold out much hope for that. It's been a good run, Playboy, but I guess you're more likely to go the way of the dinosaur, if you stick to this plan of action.

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    8. Re:Going out of business ... by jason.sweet · · Score: 3, Insightful

      the standards that Playboy has traditionally airbrushed in

    9. Re:Going out of business ... by cayenne8 · · Score: 2
      Yeah, I'm thinking at this point..."What's the Point?"

      Sure, nowadays, you don't buy PB for the 'thrill' of seeing a nekkid women so much...but while you do thumb through it, it *is* nice to see nude , really good looking classy ladies...which you don't generally see on the internet sex sites.

      They aren't all tattooed up, etc....pleasant to look at while reading through the magazine. Classy....

      But if not with that, well, not sure if the rest of the content is enough to warrant interest really...to me it was the combination of great looking nude ladies and reading material.

      Not to mention...you will get some women, famous to pose in Playboy that aren't gonna do it in another lower class magazine that shows primarily gynecologist shots.

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    10. Re:Going out of business ... by Anonymous+Psychopath · · Score: 2

      Now they're, what exactly? I just don't see people wanting to buy Playboy with no nudity. At that point, get a Victoria's Secret catalog.

      Sounds like they want to be more like Maxim. It's an old joke, but Playboy has always had solid journalism and editorial content.

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    11. Re:Going out of business ... by cdrudge · · Score: 4, Insightful

      the quality of the women in online porn videos is rarely, if ever, up to the standards that Playboy has traditionally upheld.

      Standards? Maybe that was true a decade or two or more ago. Any more pictures are so heavily airbrushed/photoshopped/whatever that the picture is just an digital artist's representation of the actual person. The only standard that is there is not real.

      Spend some time in a gonewild subreddit or an amateur photographer's portfolio that includes nudes and you'll see far more beautiful women of all different shapes and sizes then what's ever appeared in Playboy, often with little or no retouching.

    12. Re:Going out of business ... by bickerdyke · · Score: 2

      Honestly, I don't see the point in this and they should just retire the magazine and create a new one w/o nudity to compete with the others in that genre;

      And give up 60+ years of brand recognition?? They're not nuts. Way easier to use a recognized brand name for eomething completly unrelated

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    13. Re:Going out of business ... by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 2

      They may believe by eliminating nudity that more advertisers will be willing to buy ads. More and more companies are reluctant to do anything that might get them on the non-PC list, including where they advertise.

    14. Re:Going out of business ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Interesting

      So, you make the magazine more attractive for advertisers, while making it less attractive to the people who would buy it ... therefore reducing the value of the advertising.

      If you try to make Playboy PC, there's pretty much little left of value in Playboy.

      This just seems like it's shooting themselves in the foot.

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    15. Re:Going out of business ... by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 3, Funny

      If you try to make Playboy PC, there's pretty much little left of value in Playboy.

      How about Playboy Mac?

    16. Re: Going out of business ... by dunkelfalke · · Score: 3, Funny

      A gay magazine?

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    17. Re:Going out of business ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      You... you RACIST!!!!

      I know you probably don't get out of your parents' basement often, but it's pink regardless of the race.

    18. Re:Going out of business ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      People who use porn can get it for free anywhere. They need to reinvent themselves or go out of business.

      Yes, but what Playboy offered was Quality nudity. The models were good looking and clean, and the photography was well done. Sure, you can get all kinds of porn online but frankly speaking there's a large portion of the Naked Population who I, and many others, really do not care to see in the nude. Or even partially nude.

      And as digital cameras become so pervasive, so does the amount of porn. But the quality just keeps dropping overall.
      I think the bigger problem Playboy had was an over obsession with one particular body type. In particular, they seem to always have had a fetish for big tits and big hips. And while that's nice, it's not everyone's "thing". (And no, I'm not suggesting they go get a bunch of those ugly fucking landwhale "Fat Pride" cunts, if I want to see naked rolls of backfat and unwashed asscrack I can just go to Wal-Mart)

      The solution is not to go ultra-soft core and put clothing on the models. We already have Maxim and other similar "PG-13 Porn" magazines out there. The solution is to increase variety, put more girls in the issues, and concentrate on getting really high-quality models. And I mean bitches that are just flat out good-looking naturally, without the need for plastic surgery or heavy photoshopping, just a little light makeup for the camera.

    19. Re:Going out of business ... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 5, Funny

      You can still get your daily dose of naked tits and boobies in ornithology magazines, so there's that.

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    20. Re:Going out of business ... by amicusNYCL · · Score: 3, Funny

      Right, they're going after the lucrative 13-year-old-male-magazine-purchaser demographic.

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    21. Re:Going out of business ... by russotto · · Score: 4, Funny

      Have you been on Playboy.com lately? These days, you won't find even a bare female nipple. Allegedly, the move has picked up traffic and skewed younger than they have in a long while.

      If they bring the nipples back they can get even younger traffic.

    22. Re:Going out of business ... by ChrisMaple · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's been 10 years since I looked, but by then they had already shifted from enthusiastic, friendly looking, curvy girls to stiff looking skinny ice queens exposing their crotch. A too-avid pursuit of "high quality" models results in mannequins.

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  2. Anyone with me that flags should be at half mast? by spads · · Score: 4, Funny

    ;P~

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  3. Articles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now you really will be reading it for the articles!

  4. Could actually generate more sales if they're smrt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They always stated that it was about the women, but really it was the fantasies they sold it. The one thing they have missed out on for years is the lingerie.

    This is an opportunity for them to work with lingerie companies. At least this way "reader" will know what each model/actress is wearing and by that for their partners.

  5. Re:Thanks, SJWs by Chas · · Score: 4, Funny

    The problem is that due to the new Puritan SJW "all male sex is bad"

    All-male sex IS bad! If you're straight...

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  6. In unrelated news by khelms · · Score: 5, Funny

    stock prices for implant manufacturers dropped 50% today.

  7. Worldwide? by dafradu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Playboy in Brazil is mostly models, sub-celebrities and even tv stars to its pages, so at least it has that incentive to keep selling magazines. Sure there is tons of porn and nudes on the internet, but not from these women we fantasize.

    1. Re:Worldwide? by Pallas+Athena · · Score: 2

      No, not worldwide. At least the Dutch Playboy has already said they won't be dropping nudity any time soon. Lucky me :-)

  8. You really, really need to RTFA by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So after 60+ years Playboy is going to make themselves completely irrelevant?

    As per the article, the Playboy website ditched nudity a while ago. The traffic to the site increased fourfold...

    The key to understanding what they are doing is that they were always a lifestyle brand, nudity not even being the primary reason why people paid attention to them. That was just one aspect of forward thinking based around personal freedom they embraced.

    Playboy is shedding nudity to reach a broader audience and it's plainly working. Too many these days want to shun expression of sexuality altogether, and Playboy is perfectly positioned to rebel against this prudish movement (currently led by feminists).

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  9. Hugh steped down in 1988, Christie on Jan 1 2009 by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2

    Hugh Hefner handed top control spot of the company to his daughter Christie in 1988. She resigned on the 2008/2009 new year boundary.

    The magazine's market performance has apparently been gradually declining since then, starting by dropping back to 11 issues per year in 2009. (What mix, if any, of Chistie leaving because the writing was already on the wall, the third generation's changes resulting in a slide, and/or other factors may be a good subject for a post-mortem analysis and publication, some time in the future.)

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  10. Sports Illustrated by dskoll · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The SI swimsuit edition is always a blockbuster, even though there's no actual nudity (though lately it's become pretty darn close.)

    So there's still a huge market of guys [I assume it's 99.99% guys] who pathetically pay to ogle sexy women in magazines, even if the women are partly clad.

    1. Re:Sports Illustrated by pastafazou · · Score: 2

      It's about the quality of the models. SI swimsuit models are stunningly beautiful. Playboy used to have that niche too... there were playboy bunnies, and then there were the rest of the porno mag girls. At some point, though, and I'm not sure when, they seem to have lost that edge.

  11. The Wheel of History - Nothing New Under the Sun by LibertarianLawyer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Esquire was more racey pre Playboy. In response to Playboy, Esquire tuned down it prurient appeal and survived. Nothing new here just the usual course of the revolutionary becoming established and being displaced by the new revolution. Playboy may or may not survive but it is wise to try to adapt.

  12. The girl next door. by Snufu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hugh Hefner based Playboy on the idea of revealing the sexy side of "the girl next door." It was an innocent notion, part fantasy, part reality, presented with taste and class over several interesting decades of changing social values.

    Well done, Hef. The internet has made you obsolete, but will never replace you.

    1. Re:The girl next door. by RandCraw · · Score: 4, Informative

      Agreed. Playboy also brought glamor photograpy to a fine art form. Pompeo Posar, Richard Fegley, Suze Randall, Kem Marcus and others rewrote the book on representing the ideal female figure. Their artistry refined our awareness of fashion's evolution through the years (and their readers' journey to adulthood). In their case, they captured not merely styles of attire but the female form itself, in presentation, fitness, demeanor, and more.

      Yes, much of the magazine's appeal was superficial, but for perhaps 40 years its writing ably reflected and refocused the deep changes that befell America's postwar mores and priorities, especially among adult males, and it seldom failed to entertain and illuminate in doing so. No magazine since has earned a comparable iconic status for either gender of reader. Credit Mr Hefner for that. No small feat.

      The fact that Playboy's heyday also accompanied the women's revolution of the 1970s made its role as social observer all the more central to the discussion. Fortunately the magazine also attracted many of the best writers of the day, making its contribution to the discourse more than merely a feast for men's eyes.

      Farewell dear female fantasy. Your simpler times may be lost but they're not forgotten.

  13. Re:Hugh steped down in 1988, Christie on Jan 1 200 by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2

    She resigned on the 2008/2009 new year boundary.

    Correction: Jan 31 2009

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  14. Playboy without nudes would be... by dpbsmith · · Score: 3

    Playboy without nudes would be like Sports Illustrated without swimsuits. Wait, maybe I need to rephrase that.

  15. Playboy's decade long decline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As a former Playboy photographer, I can attest to the change in Playboy in the past 20 years. It went from being a magazine that provided some of the most stunning figure photography of the most stunning females to average photography of mostly average females. I was once told by a snot nosed twenty-something photo editor that the image editing department could make a Polaroid photo look like it was shot by Pompeo Posar. So much for the hours spent getting perfect lighting, flawless makeup, and just the right poses. A bevy of Mac computers and Photoshop were the end of it. I can remember one centerfold that mysteriously lacked a navel, and another that had five fingers and a thumb, thanks to the Photoshop geniuses.

    I can honestly say that I have never looked at an issue since quitting Playboy more than twenty years ago.