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US Identifies ISIL Hacker Linked To Military Breaches (justice.gov)

An anonymous reader writes: The Islamic State hacker detained at Bukit Aman in Kuala Lumpur, has been identified as 20-year-old Kosovo student name Ardit Ferizi. The U.S. arrest warrant alleges that the Kosovo hacker executed computer attacks and committed theft violations, stealing the personally identifiable information of members of the U.S. military and federal employees. The Department of Justice warned that the leaked data was intended for the "purpose of encouraging terrorist attacks against those individuals."

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  1. Theft violations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why "theft violations"? You can't "steal" personally identifiable information, you can make a copy.

    1. Re:Theft violations? by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

      It is akin to intellectual property, so property-related words are fine to use in this context, as they always have been.

      Perpetrators, of which some you no doubt support, self-describe as "pirates".

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    2. Re:Theft violations? by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      At its root, "theft" is described as taking something that is not yours. I do believe this qualifies under that definition.

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    3. Re:Theft violations? by budgenator · · Score: 1

      Well just hack off his right hand, and if it wasn't theft, Allah will put it back on.

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    4. Re:Theft violations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're okay with apps, tracking cookies, and malware that "copies" your identity and location information without your permission?

    5. Re:Theft violations? by MagickalMyst · · Score: 3, Insightful

      From Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

      Theft
      a : the act of stealing; specifically : the felonious taking and removing of personal property with intent to deprive the rightful owner of it

      Taking something that doesn't belong to you where it does not deprive the owner of it is not theft. It could be considered copying; or copyright infringement, perhaps, but not theft per se.

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    6. Re:Theft violations? by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Theft:
      a: the act of stealing

      We don't need to go any further:

      From Dictionary.com: Steal:
      1) to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, especially secretly or by force:
      2) to appropriate (ideas, credit, words, etc.) without right or acknowledgment.

      Merriam Webster has similar definitions for steal.

      The list wasn't his, and wasn't available to him. Sounds like theft to me.

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    7. Re:Theft violations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      theft /THeft/
      noun
      the action or crime of stealing.
      "he was convicted of theft"
      synonyms: robbery, stealing, thieving, larceny, thievery, shoplifting, burglary, misappropriation, appropriation, embezzlement;

      Sorry, but that doesn't describe, in the slightest, the act of copying information.

    8. Re:Theft violations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      steal /stl/
      verb
      gerund or present participle: stealing
      1. take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.
      "thieves stole her bicycle"
      synonyms: purloin, thieve, take, take for oneself, help oneself to, loot, pilfer, run off with, abscond with, carry off, shoplift;

      2. move somewhere quietly or surreptitiously.
      "he stole down to the kitchen"
      synonyms: creep, sneak, slink, slip, slide, glide, tiptoe, sidle, edge
      "he stole out of the room"

      Without intending to return it. How do you return a copy? In the future when 3D printers are capable of such a feat, would scanning your neighbor's new Porshe and then 3D printing a copy for yourself be considered theft of your neighbor's vehicle? Would it be theft against Porshe? You didn't steal one out of their factory, nor from a dealership. You created a new one basically out of thin air. No property was taken.

    9. Re: Theft violations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can steal a secret, by depriving the owner of that secret. That's why "theft" is the correct word for trade secret or unpublished manuscript while "infringement" is better for copyright or patent.

      In this case the information has nothing to do with intellectual property, but it was generally private data and making it public counts as theft to me. Trying to call everything "infringement" dilutes the meaning and hurts the cause you think you're helping.

    10. Re:Theft violations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahh, but it does deprive the owner! Specifically the lives of those he's advocating a hit job on.

      The Department of Justice warned that the leaked data was intended for the "purpose of encouraging terrorist attacks against those individuals."

    11. Re:Theft violations? by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

      He (allegedly) took something that isn't his. How is that not stealing?

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    12. Re: Theft violations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even if you forged and milled every part yourself from your own materials you are not allowed to build a Porsche. The design is their property.

    13. Re: Theft violations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That only holds true when you produce them to sell.

    14. Re:Theft violations? by penguinoid · · Score: 1

      Theft:

      a: the act of stealing

      We don't need to go any further:

      From Dictionary.com:
      Steal:

      1) to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, especially secretly or by force:

      2) to appropriate (ideas, credit, words, etc.) without right or acknowledgment.

      Nope, does not fit.
      1) Owner still has the property in question (presumably a physical data storage device with data); property was not taken.
      2) He acknowledged his source ("We hacked the military")

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    15. Re:Theft violations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have always said that there has to be a way in this day and age to spank these terrorists,, and anybody that hacks into anybodys computer is a terrorist ! We need to devise a way for computers to detect that they are being hacked and stop it and at the same time capture where the hacking is coming from and automatically call the pertinent authorities , and at the same time drawing power from the grid from a special power source set up by the Local electric company subsidized by the Legal System..and fire a burst of energy back down the line Frying the Perps Computer and hopefully Shocking the Crap out of the Perp him or herself .. AMEN NUFF SAID ,

  2. One Man....ALONE by sociocapitalist · · Score: 0, Troll

    Those in the US government responsible for the weak security that allowed the 'hacking' should be lined up along the wall right next to this guy.

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    1. Re:One Man....ALONE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would you need more than one guy to do it? Don't be a retard.

    2. Re:One Man....ALONE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you suggesting those responsible for the weak security knowingly aided terrorist activities?
      It might be so, but if it was a mistake on their part, being lined up with the bad guys isn't going to look good for the next round of IT recruits.

    3. Re:One Man....ALONE by gtall · · Score: 2

      Really? If you were caught advertently or inadvertently causing a security breach at your company, we could line you up along the wall as well?

    4. Re:One Man....ALONE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those in the US government responsible for the weak security that allowed the 'hacking' should be lined up along the wall right next to this guy.

      So you think Hillary! should be shot for using a private email server, administered by people without security clearances, on the open internet to hold and pass unencrypted classified data (NB - that fact that it may not have been marked is UTTERLY irrelevant - classified is classified whether it's marked or not)

    5. Re:One Man....ALONE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Come on. It should be a very sloppy security if this data is available online for a totally unauthorized person.
      They could probably just post it on Facebook.

    6. Re:One Man....ALONE by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      So you think Hillary! should be shot for using a private email server, administered by people without security clearances, on the open internet to hold and pass unencrypted classified data (NB - that fact that it may not have been marked is UTTERLY irrelevant - classified is classified whether it's marked or not)

      Shot?

      No....

      But I think the FBI and the Atty General should likely bring her up on charges akin to what Gen. Petrayus (sp?) and others that have mishandled classified Federal information.

      If you or I had done what "H" has been shown to have done, we'd already be negotiating for guilty plea and hoping for some mercy from the legal system.

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    7. Re:One Man....ALONE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It depends on how many people died - literally lost their life - because of my failure to do my job.

    8. Re:One Man....ALONE by sociocapitalist · · Score: 1

      Really? If you were caught advertently or inadvertently causing a security breach at your company, we could line you up along the wall as well?

      You misunderstand who I hold responsible. I am not talking about us, the insufficient technical resources who have the impossible job of securing critical infrastructure using commercial products against enemies who wield military technology against us.

      We are not at fault. We are doing what we can with the resources that we have available - in other words we are not sleeping at our posts in a time of 'cyber' war.

      A soldier on guard duty who falls asleep at his post in a time of war may be punished by death:
      “Any sentinel or look-out who is found drunk or sleeping upon his post, or leaves it before he is regularly relieved, shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death..."
      http://usmilitary.about.com/li...

      Why should politicians and other decision makers who fail to allocate the necessary resources to secure critical infrastructure not share the same fate?

      It isn't like they tried their best and failed. They dicked around, knowing full well that we have been under (for lack of a better term) cyber attack for the last ten years and have done nothing substantial to stop it.

      Now how many good people have their balls (metaphorically speaking) on the table because the decision makers fucked up?

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    9. Re:One Man....ALONE by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Really? If you were caught advertently or inadvertently causing a security breach at your company, we could line you up along the wall as well?

      YMBNH. OP is a slashdot reader, and therefore incapable of making any sheeple-y computer-related mistake.

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  3. Is Slashdot's Interpretation Legitimate? by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    or, Is Slashdot's Interpretation Slanted?

    1. Re:Is Slashdot's Interpretation Legitimate? by slimshady76 · · Score: 1

      I see what you did there ;-)

    2. Re:Is Slashdot's Interpretation Legitimate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The jihadists were forced to change it to ISIL after the FX Network sent a DMCA cease-and-desist letter to them to stop using ISIS, because it was already being used by the animated show, Archer, as the name of the private clandestine security company that the lead character worked for. Became sort of a moot point, though, since the show stopped using the acronym last year as the fictional company was absorbed into a CIA clandestine operations division.

    3. Re:Is Slashdot's Interpretation Legitimate? by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      ISIS is the name of a school I once went to, so personally I call the terrorists ISIL. Now, if that school had sucked more...

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  4. Should Have Used Social Media by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone should tell him that all the skilled hackers use Facebook, Craigslist, and LinkedIn.

  5. theft violations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unusual word combinations put strange mind thoughts into my thinkinator.

  6. Kosovo = US ally? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought that Kosovo is supposed to be an US ally? You know, US "saved" them in 1999? And gave them independence later.

    1. Re:Kosovo = US ally? by supertrooper · · Score: 1

      On paper yes. In reality no. In 2007 planned attack on Fort Dix. 2011 attack on US troops at Frankfurt airport.

    2. Re: Kosovo = US ally? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's your point? This was an individual who did the hacking.. Not the Kosovo government. Do you understand how the internet works?

    3. Re:Kosovo = US ally? by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Mod parent up!!! The US went out of its way in making an enemy out of Serbia - a country that had never been hostile to the US, and backing Muslims of both Bosnia and Kosovo against Serbia.

      Now, one would think that this would make the Muslims friends of the US, and the Serbs the enemies, right? Logically, we should have seen anti-US terror acts originating from Belgrade, right? But guess what? It has been the Muslims from anywhere and everywhere who've plotted against the US. It was a Bosnian who pulled off a shooting in a mall in Salt Lake City, UT some years ago. It was a Kosovar who participated in Fort Hood. In addition to supporting the Mohammedans against the Serbs, the US has also been supportive of Chechen Jihadis against the Russians. Yet, it was 2 Chechens - the Tsarnayev bothers - who pulled off the Boston Marathon bombings. Not non-Muslim Russkies, but Chechens! Note that!

      Yet, you have the brown nosers of the Mohammedans - be it Jihad Wahabi Bush or Mubarak Hussein Obama - who bend over backwards to grovel before Mohammedans. Not that any of that brownnosing has won us any friends.

    4. Re: Kosovo = US ally? by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Like I pointed out above, this was not the first Kosovo citizen to have done this. There was another who participated in Fort Hood. A Bosnian did the shootings in Salt Lake City, UT. In addition to supporting Bosnia and Kosovo, the US supported the Chechens and Uzbek Jihadis as well. Yet, the Tsarnayev brothers did the Boston Marathon bombings, and the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan is now a part of ISIS. There are plenty of 'individuals' from all the Muslim groups that the US has supported, which brings up the point of the GP - that supporting Muslim 'freedom struggles' against anybody is a self destructive exercise in futility

  7. Now that he's been charged.. by fred911 · · Score: 1

    Does it mean he has rights granted by the constitution or will he be held in perpetuum as an enemy combatant?

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    1. Re:Now that he's been charged.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some criminals are still just criminals. And keeping the drivers of criminals on permanent ice has become impolite.

      For everyone else, there's a Predator drone with a Hellfire missile.

      This kid was smart to be in Malaysia.

    2. Re:Now that he's been charged.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? You're defending terrorists when the Republicans that rule this country treat minorities worse than they treat terrorists? While they only waterboard, which doesn't do permanent damage so it isn't torture, they beat and kill us every single day with their thugs in blue. They hate us and want us to die. With the terrorists, they keep them on a tropical paradise and feed them and don't beat them. The Republicans hate us.

    3. Re:Now that he's been charged.. by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      Kill the little shit. It's fucking war. Treat it as such.

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    4. Re: Now that he's been charged.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The Republicans treat us worse than terrorists. Worse than terrorists.

    5. Re: Now that he's been charged.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You never hear about the Republicans taping terrorists like they constantly do with us. Constantly.

    6. Re: Now that he's been charged.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Say it with me, "Good day, PRESIDENT TRUMP. I hope your bath in the salty tears of the enemies of this country was refreshing."

      Whoever "us" is, YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED. LIKE ON A CALENDAR OR SOMETHING.

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    7. Re:Now that he's been charged.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And, while you're at it, also kill DigiShaman (671371), because he's a little shit, too.

    8. Re:Now that he's been charged.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There needs to be a war against macho trolling keyboard warriors too.

    9. Re:Now that he's been charged.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reported.

      https://tips.fbi.gov/

    10. Re:Now that he's been charged.. by afxgrin · · Score: 1

      I'm surprised he's turning on the US considering the bombing campaign NATO conducted on the Serbs much to the advantage of the Muslim Kosovars who make up 95% of the population. Guess he was too young to remember that....

    11. Re:Now that he's been charged.. by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Interesting how this all happens in big inner cities controlled by democrats but it is the republicans behind it. No true Scotsman or too much scotch?

      Just curious.

    12. Re: Now that he's been charged.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Say it with me: "Donald Trump has to put all his assets in to a blind trust if elected."

      That's not going to happen. Think whatever you like - The Donald likes rules when they benefit him and ignores them when they don't and this is one rule he cannot ignore. If elected, he very well may be the first president in 100 years to be legitimately impeached due to the above.

    13. Re: Now that he's been charged.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think whatever you like - The Donald likes rules when they benefit him and ignores them when they don't and this is one rule he cannot ignore.

      [citation please]
      What rule says he has to put his assets in a blind trust? Did either of the Bush Presidents (who are quite wealthy and have extensive land holdings in South America) do that? The only thing PRESIDENT TRUMP has to do is avoid a conflict of interest amongst his business dealings and government work. He would have to divest in companies that do business with the government, but he wouldn't have to put it all in a trust. Anyway I don't recall Michael Bloomberg (who is a billionaire worth more than Trump) putting his assets into a blind trust when he was Mayor of NYC. This just sounds like some DailyKOS propaganda.

  8. why did the media pixelface him? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I understand pixelating the faces of the Malaysian agents who have the guy in custody, but why pixelate the suspect, especially since there are other images of him out there? Is it a Malaysian law or something?

    1. Re:why did the media pixelface him? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If you are interested, unblurred photos are here.

  9. My Thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ISIS is evil. Full stop. Anyone found guilty of knowingly consorting with them should be executed. The US is dancing around, not calling ISIS what they are -- Islamic Terrorists. At least the Russians are making an attempt to kill a few of them. We are making every excuse to not get involved. Taking out ISIS isn't that diffcult if you're willing to do so.

    We know where they are. Satellites tell us this. No troops on the ground. Look up fuel-air bombs. Drop napalm and fuel-air bombs around known hideouts for hours on end. They are cheap for the military to use. Even if the bomb doesn't get you, suffocation will. They work and they work very well, and we don't use them near enough.

    1. Re:My Thoughts by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 1

      ISIS is evil. Full stop. Anyone found guilty of knowingly consorting with them should be executed

      They say the exact same about us

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    2. Re:My Thoughts by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And there are people around the world who believe that the Americans are terrorists for invading countries, torturing people, and doing things like blowing up hospitals. And they are taking your advice and killing the terrorists.

      BTW, the Russians aren't targeting ISIS. They are leaving that to the others. The Russians are bombing the rebels who were allied with the US that are going after Assad. The idea is that Russia and Assad can take out Assad's enemies while the rest of the world can work on ISIS. Then when Assad has complete control of Syria again then he can concentrate on ISIS.

    3. Re:My Thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Russians are bombing the rebels who were allied with the US that are going after Assad.

      They're practically one and the same with ISIL. Where do think that ISIL's gets all it arms and Toyota trucks?

    4. Re:My Thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's your solution? Better jobs?

    5. Re:My Thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're living in a fantasy land if you thinking massively bombing and killing people in the middle east will magically get rid of middle eastern people who are angry at the west.

      We're making enemies faster than we can kill them.

    6. Re:My Thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ISIS is evil. Full stop. Anyone found guilty of knowingly consorting with them should be executed

      They say the exact same about us

      Two men say they're Jesus, one of them must be wrong.
      There's a protest singer singing a protest song.

    7. Re:My Thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And they murder innocents too. What's your point?
      If it is war, then let it be war, we shouldn't just let them kill everyone without consequences.

    8. Re:My Thoughts by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Where do think that ISIL's gets all it arms and Toyota trucks?

      From ignorant ACs like you. They aren't getting them directly from the US. Many of the weapons and materials were taken from the Iraq military when they pissed their pants and ran.

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    9. Re:My Thoughts by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      It depends on how massively you bomb the area.

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    10. Re:My Thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're ignorance is astounding. ISIL, al-nusra (al-qaeda in Syria), FSA, and all the other jihadist factions in the area have all worked together at one time or another. They share intelligence, personnel, funds and arms. The arms don't come from Iraq, they came from Libya. You know, that whole Benghazi thing where the CIA was using the Libyan embassy annex building in Benghazi to funnel captured Libyan arms to funnel to the FSA that somehow just happened to wind up in the hands of ISIL. Also like Toyota Hiluxes sent to FSA but also found their way to ISIL. You're crazy if you think that the "CIA rebels" are somehow any different ideologically speaking that ISIL. That's like saying that the mujahideen in 1980's Afghanistan were freedom fighters compared to the Taliban of today. They're all Islamic radicals. The US is just doing Saudi Arabia's and Israels dirty work for them to get rid of Assad.

    11. Re:My Thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty stupid comment. You might have some sort of logical consistency if said terrorists were targeting specifically the Americans who undertake these actions you (laughably) claim they do. Alas, they are targeting indiscriminately.

      And before your broken-record, dreary ass brings up civilians killed by American bombs note the part about "targeting". If you can find Americans who intentionally targeted civilians then by all means string them up.

    12. Re:My Thoughts by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      https://www.washingtonpost.com...

      Security forces retreated from the Malaab area of Ramadi at 1:30 p.m., abandoning about 60 military vehicles, including military-grade Humvees, said Col. Nasser al-Alwani of the Ramadi police force. About half of the abandoned vehicles were sent by the U.S.-backed government on Saturday to reinforce the neighborhood, he added.

      https://news.vice.com/article/...

      Police and soldiers stripped out of their uniforms and abandoned their equipment on the road as they fled.

      http://www.rferl.org/content/i...

      One day before the Iraqi soldier gave his account to RFE/RL on May 25, U.S. Defense Secretary Ashton Carter accused Iraqi forces of showing "no will to fight" and having "failed to fight" in Ramadi despite "vastly outnumber[ing]" the enemy, retreating and leaving behind large numbers of U.S.-supplied vehicles, including tanks.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      After the end of the war, both the CIA and the U.S. State Department were tasked with continuing to identify and collect arms that had flooded the country during the war, particularly shoulder-fired missiles taken from the arsenal of the Gaddafi regime,[32][33] as well as securing Libyan chemical weapons stockpiles, and helping to train Libya's new intelligence service.[29]

      ...

      Multiple anonymous sources reported that the diplomatic mission in Benghazi was used by the CIA as a cover to smuggle weapons from Libya to anti-Assad rebels in Syria.[30]:56[34][36][37][38] Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh cites an anonymous former senior Defense Department intelligence official, saying "The consulate’s only mission was to provide cover for the moving of arms. It had no real political role." The attack allegedly brought an end to the purported U.S. involvement, but did not stop the smuggling according to Hersh's source.[39] In January 2014, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence cast doubt on this alleged U.S. involvement and reported that "All CIA activities in Benghazi were legal and authorized. On-the-record testimony establishes that the CIA was not sending weapons ... from Libya to Syria, or facilitating other organizations or states that were transferring weapons from Libya to Syria."[40]

      Care to try again? The CIA was collecting arms, not distributing, unless you subscribe to the local Tin Foil Anonymous.

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    13. Re:My Thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, why not.

      In January 2014, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence cast doubt on this alleged U.S. involvement and reported that "All CIA activities in Benghazi were legal and authorized. On-the-record testimony establishes that the CIA was not sending weapons ... from Libya to Syria, or facilitating other organizations or states that were transferring weapons from Libya to Syria."[40]

      The US conducts investigation finding that the US did not break the law. Ha ha. How fucking convenient. Should I trust Seymore Hersch (and all those other reporting the same story found in your own link!?) , or should I trust the US government? That' an easy question to answer.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/13/world/middleeast/syria-russia-airstrikes.html?_r=0
      U.S. Weaponry Is Turning Syria Into Proxy War With Russia

      "The American-made TOW antitank missiles began arriving in the region in 2013, through a covert program run by the United States, Saudi Arabia and other allies to help certain C.I.A.-vetted insurgent groups battle the Syrian government." ...
      "The C.I.A. program that delivered the TOWs (an acronym for tube-launched, optically tracked, wire-guided missiles) is separate from — and significantly larger than — the failed $500 million Pentagon program that was canceled last week after it trained only a handful of fighters. That was unsuccessful largely because few recruits would agree to its goal of fighting only the militant Islamic State and not Mr. Assad.

      Rebel commanders scoffed when asked about reports of the delivery of 500 TOWs from Saudi Arabia, saying it was an insignificant number compared with what is available. Saudi Arabia in 2013 ordered more than 13,000 of them. Given that American weapons contracts require disclosure of the “end user,” insurgents said they were being delivered with Washington’s approval." ...
      "Provinces by insurgent groups that include both the Qaeda-affiliated Nusra Front and American-backed units calling themselves the Free Syrian Army — but not ISIS, which is strong in northern and eastern Syria into Iraq but has little presence in the west."
      [Supporting al-Qaeda, who would of thought?] ...
      "It is a tactical alliance that Free Syrian Army commanders describe as an uncomfortable marriage of necessity, because they cannot operate without the consent of the larger and stronger Nusra Front. But Mr. Assad and his allies cite the arrangement as proof that there is little difference between insurgent groups, calling them all terrorists that are legitimate targets." ...

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter-rebel_conflict_during_the_Syrian_Civil_War
      Inter-rebel conflict during the Syrian Civil War
      "Despite the conflict between ISIL and other rebels, one faction of ISIL has cooperated with the al-Nusra Front and the Green Battalion (a group of Saudi fighters) to combat Hezbollah in the Qalamoun region. ...
      http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/4/benghazi-report-full-inaccuracies-say-cia-contract/
      Benghazi report ‘full of inaccuracies,’ say CIA contractors

    14. Re:My Thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      http://www.france24.com/en/20141224-west-underestimates-danger-jurgen-todenhofer-embedded-islamic-state-syria-iraq/

      German journalist Jurgen Todenhofer, who recently spent 10 days with Islamic State (IS) militants in Iraq and Syria, tells FRANCE 24 they buy Western weapons from Syrian rebels and envision a future that includes a massive "religious cleansing"

      ...

      Todenhofer went on to say that the IS militants are being armed by the West – if only indirectly – as Western moves to arm moderate Syrian rebels have backfired.

      “They buy the weapons that we give to the Free Syrian Army, so they get Western weapons – they get French weapons I saw German weapons, I saw American weapons,” he said.

      “The best seller of weapons is the Free Syrian Army, which is financed by NATO, financed probably also by France, but at least by the United States.”

    15. Re:My Thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Israel doesn't have a problem with Assad. Assad has kept their side of the Golan Heights off limits to anyone even thinking about attacking Israel over the years. The last thing he wants is to irritate Israel because he remembers the last time his country tried to push the Jews into the sea. And the US is not really doing anything to remove Assad. The majority of US air attacks have been in Iraqi territory and territory that Assad has lost to ISIS and other rebel groups. It is really strange that people have not realized the US really doesn't give 2 shits about the ME anymore. The US is not dependent on oil from that region and hasn't been for quite a while. That entire region could go up in a gigantic radioactive cloud tomorrow and the rest of the world would just nod and say good riddance.

    16. Re:My Thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, Israel just keeps bombing Syria every now and then because they love Assad. Right.

      US really doesn't give 2 shits about the ME anymore

      What chutzpah! kek.

    17. Re:My Thoughts by unixisc · · Score: 1

      If the Israelis wanted Assad gone, they'd have supported the FAS, al Nusra and ISIS. They actually have more sense than that then the cretins in Washington, both Democrat & Republican. They know that removing Assad would result in the ISIS in Damascus, which is why they have left them alone. That however doesn't nor shouldn't stop them from bombing supply lines to Hizbullah in Lebanon, where they are more involved in bombing Galilee than fighting ISIS

    18. Re:My Thoughts by Boronx · · Score: 1

      We aren't great guys either, but Putin is fighting for Assad, who can compete with Isis evil for evil. The US doesn't want ISIS taken out, because ISIS will cost Putin and the Iranians a lot to defeat. US just doesn't want ISIS overrunning Baghdad.

  10. Send in the drones... by jtara · · Score: 1
  11. Kill team deployed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kill team deployed

  12. Re:in other news: largest scale hackers also IDed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL that always happens. The vast majority sees that the NSA are the world's biggest hackers but it is very funny because pro-NSA gets modded up and anti-NSA gets modded down quite often.

  13. Re:in other news: largest scale hackers also IDed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, go ahead, bury the message you don't like, regardless that it has been shown to the world as the truth.

  14. "Executed" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It seems to me that "Executed" would be a good adjective to apply to this guy.

  15. Criminal or Enemy Combatant? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the interesting question.
    If he's an enemy combatant that was captured they broke no laws as they are at war, and what they did was legitimately gather intel for their side. They're going to gitmo until the war is officially over (har har - poor bastard.)
    If they are going to be charged with hacking crimes though, what does it matter about the ISIL connection? Thus the extradition seems like overkill for a simple hacking offense.

    Seems the US want to have things both ways here - he can't be both a criminal and a terrorist at the same time for doing what he did.

  16. Malaysia, a terrorist haven by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The news that the Islamic State cyber operative was operating in Kuala Lumpur of Malaysia is not at all shocking to those living inside Malaysia for Malaysia has become a safe haven to Islamic Terrorism for decades

    Kuala Lumpur also has played an important role on the 911 attack on the World Trade Center in NYC

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/LI11Ae01.html

    Top chiefs of Al Qaeda met at Kuala Lumpur to plan out the 911 strike on WTC, with the tacit blessing from the Malaysian Islamic government

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/could/

    The arrest of the student of Kosovo is but a 'show' for the real number of Islamic terrorists hiding inside Malaysia is in the thousands. In Malaysia they are being provided safe houses and new identities by the Malaysian government

    The truth is that the Malaysia government is very actively supporting Islamic terrorism - not only Malaysia is providing safe passage / new identities for known Islamic terrorists, the same Islamic government is also actively providing military training (including that of psy-ops and urban warfare), bomb making techniques, political support, weapon supply and financial assistance to several regional Islamic terrorist groups throughout Asia and in Australia

  17. That's right - Israel and Syria by unixisc · · Score: 1

    While Israel has been somewhat quiet about the Syrian civil war, they had misgivings about all the Sunni parties from the start of the war, due to their links w/ the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas. Hamas, which had relations w/ the Assad regime, broke that off once the war started at the behest of the Muslim Brotherhood. Israeli officials had privately been on record as saying that the devil they know is better than the ones they don't. While they have their issues w/ the Baath regime due to its links w/ Hizbullah, they are even more apprehensive about all Sunni parties - be it al Nusra, the Free Syrian Army, Khorasan or ISIS. The GP may have been right about the US, but not about Israel.