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Amazon Lawsuit Aims To Kill Fake Reviews (theguardian.com)
Mark Wilson writes with a story at Beta News (relying on this report at The Guardian) that Amazon is suing more than 1,000 fake reviewers for their misleading, paid-for reviews:
The ability to read reviews of products before making a purchase is one of the great advantages of online shopping. But how do you know that what you're reading is a genuine review and not just glowing praise planted by the seller or manufacturer? Fake reviews are a serious problem, and Amazon is trying to do something about it. The retail giant has filed a lawsuit against 1,114 individuals for writing 'false, misleading, and inauthentic' reviews. Amazon says that the fakers are tarnishing its reputation, and the attempt to clean up the site is something that will be welcomed by consumers.
From the Guardian's version of the story: Amazon said there had been misleading five-star reviews and comments about products, such as: “This has lit up my life” about a USB cable. A bogus comment said “definitely buying more I was impressed with how bright the lights on the cable are”, while another reviewer gave a product top marks and added the comment “cool charger”.
Amazon is not suing Fiverr, a startup that raised $30m from investors last year, as the company says in its terms and conditions that advertising for services such as writing bogus reviews is banned.
So, let's see, now if post a review on Amazon, they might sue me? I knew it was pointless to post those reviews, but now it's clearly stupid, as well.
> "false, misleading, and inauthentic"
Like, advertising?
And before you say, "yes but we know advertising is advertising, and this is masquerading as something else"...
Consider the reality of "Native Advertising", the advertising industry's response to ad blocking: http://bit.ly/native_adverts
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Amazon is not suing Fiverr
OK, then... Wait, what?
What about reviews written tongue in cheek for humor? Amazon seems to actually embrace them:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/featu...
How is the USB cable review different than the ones in the link above?
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A+++++
If normal person writes review about the product whats amazon legal reason to civil court case????
Humor, for instance can almost always be false. http://www.amazon.com/review/R2XKMDXZHQ26YX/ref=cm_cr_dp_title?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B002HJ377A&channel=detail-glance&nodeID=1036592&store=apparel
Why leave a review if you could get incorrectly caught up in something like this down the line?
They are THE MOST accurate reviews I have ever seen or heard of! AAA++++++++++++++ accuracy! Would read them again!!!!!!! Top value!
1. Generally, I only put stock into the ones from verified purchasers - mainly because of all the people trying to game the reviews.
2. There is a growing, serious problem with reviews submitted people who've been given a product discount and "asked" to write a review. Interestingly, they apparently are required to state that fact in the review itself, which makes it easier for me to flag all such reviews as "unhelpful".
3. Amazon has its own ludicrous program for sending free products to people expressly so they'll review the items ("Vine", I think). These are also well worthy of being flagged as unhelpful, which I try to do whenever I'm exposed to them. Come on, Amazon... I only want to hear the experiences of people who purchased the product because they needed / wanted it. I couldn't care less about the opinion of someone who received the product just because they're considered a good reviewer in general - what a dumb concept!
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we should have the legal right to kill bezos in self defense then. fuck amazon. time for a corporate death penalty.
I got tired of receiving follow-up communications requesting reviews after I buy something. It seems to happen almost half the time now.
This is where to report these sellers: http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/reports
Finding a way to prevent the majority of online reviews from being written by the grade school kids currently polluting virtually every site. It's nice that they participate, but the opinion of an eleven-year-old really isn' that useful in pragmatic terms to me. I don't bother leaving or reading reviews anymore.
When there's a product that ships from China and has only a single, 5-star, over-the-top, broken-English verified-buyer purchase, I know to avoid the product. And all the vendor's products have similar ones... I guess we'll lose that filter.
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Amazon sues itself to get rid of false & misleading EMPLOYEE reviews.
Far more serious are real reviewers, who are happy to give a 4 or 5 star review to anything they get for free:
http://www.amazon.com/forum/am...
Amazon explicitly allows this, which I guess is better than driving it underground, but does nothing to account for this heavy reviewer bias:
"if you offer a free or discounted product in exchange for a review, you must clearly state that you welcome both positive and negative feedback. If you receive a free or discounted product in exchange for your review, you must clearly and conspicuously disclose that fact."
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help...
I've seen MANY products whose 4.5 star averages are purely because the seller sends out tons of free samples in exchange for positive reviews. Meanwhile, products that are considerably less expensive but don't bribe their customers unfortunately get less prominently featured in search results because their average rating, sales counts, and review numbers are so much lower.
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as long as they don't stop bad reviews / sue people for posting bad reviews
They should also do something about the fake 1-star reviews, the ones that tarnish a products or person's reputation. It is rampant in the e-book community, as are the 5-star reviews.
..which said I was legally obligated to pay any attention to the ToS of any random website. I hope their review system gets shitflooded and ddosed to the point that it's completely useless and they make a futile attempt to sue every Tor exit node and VPN in existence. Good riddance, fuckheads.
If you review a product on Amazon, that will follow you until the day you die (ok, not based on experience). Not just at Amazon but all over the web.
Also, Amazon, how about fixing your search results. More than once, I've been caught by results that don't meet the search criteria. For example, a 3.5 inch drive mixed in with the results for a search that specifically states 2.5 inch. I know I should read the description completely but, for some reason, I'm biased to expect the returns to match the criteria.
They must mean me. I always give overly enthusiastic comments and answers when Amazon bugs me to do so, in the hope that they won't ask me again.
Still waiting for my gift :
How Amazon steal people
I worry about losing the funny ones. Like these.
Some of this stuff is pure gold, and I think it actually helps Amazon overall, as it gets people to go to the site, and hang around on it, and think about it.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Fiverr must not be trying too hard to take down these services, because a search for "amazon" turns up a phony reviewer as the first hit:
https://www.fiverr.com/abigail...
Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
they do, however, regulate paid endorsements. See the difference?
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Fiverr is a cesspool of corrupt third world trash.
Not sure how many of these are legit, but they are funny as hell, since they replace sugar with some ingredient that leads to intestinal issues.
http://www.amazon.com/Haribo-Sugar-Free-Gummy-Bears/product-reviews/B008JELLCA/
Now about some boogers and cum?
And stop replying to your own idiotic posts
Say what you will shit consumer laws in the U.S. At least we can lampoon a product on its own page. Whatever dope Guardian writers are smoking; they forgot in the U.S. This kind of lawsuit can almost get you laughed out of court.
Automatically marking a review "unhelpful" when it is well written, thorough, and EXPLICITLY STATES that it's a review of a product that was received for free (and down-voting it for that reason alone) is just plain stupid, period.
What a dumb concept! You'd rather hear from idiot Joe, the axe-to-grind former employee of the company that makes the product and is now on a mission disparage the company with negative reviews, or Sally the underhanded paid reviewer who writes the review for a payment having never even laid eyes on the product and doesn't disclose it at all, or Bill the company's marketing guy who just posts positive reviews of his own products to generate buzz but acts as though he's a normal customer, or Steve the e-commerce moron who writes a 1-star review discussing how bad UPS messed up the box in shipment and doesn't even mention the product itself, or Nancy the mostly-illiterate, who writes incomprehensible gobbledygook that might be in some way related to the product, but rates it 1-star because it's "#1, the best."
Quite frankly, I'd MUCH MUCH rather have reviews from people who can actually write, are skilled at writing comprehensive and thorough reviews (as determined by the community of shoppers), and are honest about both their motivations and their product experiences. Essentially every single tech site and publication and YouTube channel and professional reviewer gets some products for free and/or is sponsored by manufacturers, and they don't always review things positively or benchmark things generously either. When I know who is writing the review and why, I can take that information into account along with the review's actual content and come to my own conclusion. This is especially helpful when it's a newly introduced product and there aren't any other reviews of it yet. I don't want to be the only guinea pig, especially if it's moderately to high priced.
So please stop trying to down-rank those reviews on "principle" and make me wade through the cesspool of idiocy and nearly unreadable reviews mentioned above just to get to the ones that, you know, tell me why I might or might not be interested in the product.. I'm smart enough to decide for myself if I trust the reviewer to be impartial or if the information in it is valuable without someone making a blanket judgement based only on one factor that they're fully honest and up-front about!
I only downvote reviews that actually suck (there are a lot of them), or that are obviously fake (for example one user reviewing all the products from just one company, often on the same day, and with no other reviews, or several reviewers with very suspiciously similar reviews all posted around the same time and often being the only review they've written).
I'm all for them deleting fake reviews, especially those that are written in exchange for money. But they had better leave these comments alone!
I hope Amazon doesn't shut down the reviews for the The Mountain Three Wolf Moon Short Sleeve Tee
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He's not just an actor, he's a golden-tongued living deity with powers far beyond the mere superhuman. Proof abounds in these Amazon reviews of his finest work: http://www.amazon.com/Very-Bes...
Just put a little popup next to the company name stating "In the past this company has paid reviewers for positive reviews. The veracity of the reviews below cannot be confirmed or denied."
Besides the scarlet letter on the offending company, I'm guessing this will have the side-effect of scaring away any potential legitimate reviewer who would not want to be mistaken for a shill. The company learns a valuable lesson in honesty which will be forgotten in 8 seconds.
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I did reviews, blog comments, forum posts, and such for extra cash for almost a year.
There are companies that even pay forum commenters to try and argue a specific point. They even give tips how to get a poster with an opposing view that argues with you banned, with tricks to use to make the debate go from heated argument to using certain arguing tricks to incite the opponent into raging and cursing/name calling/etc, then get them suspended or banned thus making you look the victor in spreading a company or organization's propaganda even if you don't believe it yourself.
For example you may hate Jews, or Scientology, or Coke, or Apple, Microsoft, lists go on and on and on...
But even though you hate them, you can get paid to post pro-propaganda in a real non bot post and they give you talking points on stirring up controversy and making the thread popular and arguing with those against your side.
Toward end, when I moved from fake reviews and 5 stars, and did paid forum posts I was arguing with posters that I personally agreed with but to get paid had to "act" like I truly believed the shit I wrote. And I personally got 3 people suspended and banned by inciting them into raging. I decided it wasn't fun anymore spreading bullshit and getting paid to practically troll.
Forums they target are from news comment sections to kooky conspiracy forums like abovetopsecret.com, Slashdot, Reddit, Somethingaweful (once you've proven to be a good poster the company will buy your membership into some forums), list goes on and on.
And using Tor to create multiple accounts for creating a virtual opponent so you actually debate yourself, but just enough to bait others into it, or you wind up winning your "fake debate" with yourself.
Here's just a few examples of companies that act as the "middle man" to the corporations, organizations, and charities that pay forum posters to push specific agendas. And yes Jewish lobby is a gigantic user of these services to attack and try to get any antisemitism banned or thread locked, and political parties,SJW groups, to brand loyalty and etc. It would blow your mind how many posters on your favorite sites are actually paid shills while they may argue with you, they honestly agree with you, they get paid to incite, debate, and spread viewpoints.
http://www.paidforumposting.co...
http://kickstartyourforums.com...
http://thecashchat.com/forum/
http://www.mylot.com/
http://www.postloop.com/
http://talk4dollar.com/
That's just a tiny tiny sample. But they are middle-men that way the true companies, organizations, charities have deniability of using paid shills.
For example you may hate Jews, or Scientology, or Coke, or Apple, Microsoft, lists go on and on and on...
This post itself looks like a ruse. Guiding the public to determine facts/fiction by love/hate is wrong on principle. Appeal to emotion is #1 in subterfuge. You list some websites (will not click them) as if to give yourself credibility because you are an actual shill. This is a nested loop of red flags.
pro tip: calmly analyze facts even if, and especially if, it's a "hot issue" like your government selling you down the river for Israel, or a company turning on the entire globe and updating their product (Windows) to full adware/malware/spyware like Windows 10 is.
Intelligent people don't need to be advised, but maybe reminded.
The post I am responding to reaks of total bullshit. Two false religions, a common soft drink, and two proprietary operating systems.. and then "it goes on and on".. naw homie.
This "confessed shill" is trying to shill you while saying "i'm not shilling you". Doesn't seem profound whatsoever either. I am picturing the stereotypical used car salesman or a gypsy at a Metro station with a baby in her arms asking for change. smh
I did reviews, blog comments, forum posts, and such for extra cash for almost a year.
There are companies that even pay forum commenters to try and argue a specific point. They even give tips how to get a poster with an opposing view that argues with you banned, with tricks to use to make the debate go from heated argument to using certain arguing tricks to incite the opponent into raging and cursing/name calling/etc, then get them suspended or banned thus making you look the victor in spreading a company or organization's propaganda even if you don't believe it yourself.
For example you may hate Jews, or Scientology, or Coke, or Apple, Microsoft, lists go on and on and on...
But even though you hate them, you can get paid to post pro-propaganda in a real non bot post and they give you talking points on stirring up controversy and making the thread popular and arguing with those against your side.
Toward end, when I moved from fake reviews and 5 stars, and did paid forum posts I was arguing with posters that I personally agreed with but to get paid had to "act" like I truly believed the shit I wrote. And I personally got 3 people suspended and banned by inciting them into raging. I decided it wasn't fun anymore spreading bullshit and getting paid to practically troll.
Forums they target are from news comment sections to kooky conspiracy forums like abovetopsecret.com, Slashdot, Reddit, Somethingaweful (once you've proven to be a good poster the company will buy your membership into some forums), list goes on and on.
And using Tor to create multiple accounts for creating a virtual opponent so you actually debate yourself, but just enough to bait others into it, or you wind up winning your "fake debate" with yourself.
Here's just a few examples of companies that act as the "middle man" to the corporations, organizations, and charities that pay forum posters to push specific agendas. And yes Jewish lobby is a gigantic user of these services to attack and try to get any antisemitism banned or thread locked, and political parties,SJW groups, to brand loyalty and etc. It would blow your mind how many posters on your favorite sites are actually paid shills while they may argue with you, they honestly agree with you, they get paid to incite, debate, and spread viewpoints.
http://www.paidforumposting.co...
http://kickstartyourforums.com...
http://thecashchat.com/forum/
http://www.mylot.com/
http://www.postloop.com/
http://talk4dollar.com/
That's just a tiny tiny sample. But they are middle-men that way the true companies, organizations, charities have deniability of using paid shills.
Looks like damage control from a self-proclaimed shill. Used to sell bridges in Brooklyn area... but not any more. Now just telling it like it is. Uh huh. Posts list of shill links. Yeah ok. *cough* bullshit *cough*
shill /SHil/
North Americaninformal
noun
noun: shill; plural noun: shills
1.
an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others.
a person who pretends to give an impartial endorsement of something in which they themselves have an interest.
"a megamillionaire who makes more money as a shill for corporate products than he does for playing basketball"
verb
verb: shill; 3rd person present: shills; past tense: shilled; past participle: shilled; gerund or present participle: shilling
1.
act or work as a shill.
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See, normally I ignore your posts because they reek of racist stupidity.
This one skipped that initially so I made it as far as
nano chip chemtrails
Congratulations. You've killed your credibility even more thoroughly than when I was discounting it as a racist rant.
I was a reviewer for Newegg for a while where they would give you an item and you had 2 weeks to post a review on the item you received. That lasted for about 6 months before I stopped receiving assignments. I was always honest with my reviews, most of the items I received were useful and good in quality, though there were a few that did not work properly or had some inherent issues with their design. It's an easy problem to fix though. If that person didn't purchase the item from Amazon, they shouldn't be allowed to post a review. I think it should go the same way for other sites as well. If they don't do this, then the weight of the review from a non "Verified Purchaser" should be zero. It should have no effect on the review score and should show up lower in the results.
Have you ever fallen asleep at the keybhanusdiog?
The comical thing with this post is that you may be using the techniques you describe to kickstart a conversation in which you're replying to yourself and/or setting up a disinformation campaign.
Or you may be legit.
The two anonymous replies already received however.. they're fitting straight into the 'paid for' bracket.
I shall watch this thread with interest :)
Immortan Joe will look at you.
http://www.amazon.com/Wilton-7...
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What I've determined whenever I look at the reviews of a product on Amazon (or any site) is that no product produced actually works. Every product has the people that received DOA items, or they broke on first use.
Though my favorite is the five-star review I saw for "Box was damaged so I returned it unopened, but what I saw of it, it looked okay"
The comical thing with this post is that you may be using the techniques you describe to kickstart a conversation in which you're replying to yourself and/or setting up a disinformation campaign.
Or you may be legit.
The two anonymous replies already received however.. they're fitting straight into the 'paid for' bracket.
I shall watch this thread with interest :)
consider facts, that is how simple it is.
facts are not a disinformation campaign by definition of facts. appeals to emotion are where bamboozling and subterfuge dwell.
there is literally nothing comical about any of those posts, but you say there is.
I don't give a sht whether scum jew troll 'skip' my posts or not. The Facts are stated clearly in my post. The JEW tribe now has trillions in weapons, the robbing, scheming, child raping mass murdering jew tribe has been spraying NANO CHIP CHEMTRAILS for a period of years, and recently added a bio weapon lab virus to the spraying to start the cull of nordic whites. For those who are not scum jews distracting on the web so no one does anything to stop them before their cull, see other information in 'distraction theater' post above. Keep copy to re read, postal mail info to others, put links on notes, hand out to everyone. You won't see a post like this much longer. Don't waste time. Get off the web get off your ass. No one is coming to save you. Make tribes, stop the jews, they mass murdered using your ignorance for world takeover, now the weapons are pointed at you. No one will stop them but you. Hand out notes to meet real people, make tribes.
Add this to the links in the other post - they do this now to masses of children they are also behind the massive child porno and pedophilia snuff worldwide - - skrewdriver.net/ritual.html
Only jews do the 'racist' bs. It was jews - 'who brought the slaves to america' by walter white, archive.org . The jews brought and owned most of them, then when the southerners were seceding to be free of bogus jew 'government', the jews ran around screeching 'free the slaves' so scum idiot northerners went and slaughtered their southern racial kin who were trying to be free of the jew. A century later after jews were making up bogus version of the kkk to stoke division, the same time bashing general 'whites' for slavery which most didn't own slaves and there were over 300k white irish slaves, the jews screeched again to con the bogus 'minorities' bs so jews gave themselves 'special' status to further crush whites with false guilt so idiot whites would pay for lying jews and blacks we owed nothing to and for every 'welfare' and scum immigrant parasite. In 1965, 95% of the usa population was white. Mostly nordic white, some millions of 'white' ashkenazi jew race faking as 'white'. They are not nordic white. It's jews behind the mass immigration destruction of us.
http://balder.org/judea/Hate-Speech-Laws-Immigration-Jewish-Influence-USA.php
It's millions in 'white' ashkenazi in jews 'govt', jew 'media' masses of jew trolls on the web that screech 'racist' bs so jews keeps other races hating general 'whites' for wha JEWS do, while what's left of real whites sit on their asses allowing the fraud. Those that do the 'racist' or 'hate speech' bs are JEWS or dupes and co-parasites with the jew. The JEW is the ultimate racist while they screech 'don't be racist' at nordic whites. . There is no such thing as 'white supremacist' on the 'white' skin Ashkenazi JEW supremacist.
Add that link and these to the others in 'distraction theater' and jew troll posts -
http://67.225.133.110/~gbpprorg/judicial-inc/Auschwitz.htm
http://67.225.133.110/~gbpprorg/judicial-inc/Hopie_ike.htm
http://67.225.133.110/~gbpprorg/judicial-inc/810dresden_primary.htm
http://67.225.133.110/~gbpprorg/judicial-inc/81murder_incorporated.htm
http://67.225.133.110/~gbpprorg/judicial-inc/Coure_d_Arlene.htm
http://67.225.133.110/~gbpprorg/judicial-inc/False_Flags_summary.htm
And tell anyone screeching 'racist' to FCK Off. To be 'racist' is to think. To discriminate is to use your brain.
It's everyone's right to be racist. The scum JEWS just beat it out of true whites while pumping up bullshit 'pride' in every other race and their own. Scheming lying scum. Chemtrail virus.
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– Harold Rosenthal
We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers forever. Nothing that you will do will meet our needs and demands. We will forever destroy because we need a world of our own. ~ Maurice Samuels, 1942.
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