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IMDb Hits 25

An anonymous reader writes: The year 2015 heralded a number of notable Internet milestones — the humble .com domain name reached 30 years of age, while both eBay and Amazon reached the grand old age of 20. That the Internet Movie Database, a gargantuan film and TV show encyclopedia better known as IMDb, began 25 years ago as a pre-Web hobby project and is now one of the top 50 most visited websites on the Internet is a notable achievement. "IMDb is the only pure Internet company that can celebrate its 25th anniversary," said Col Needham, founder and CEO of IMDb, in an interview with VentureBeat.

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  1. my Mom's homepage by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    and my Grandmother still argues about it.

  2. Impressive but not unique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    There are a lot of things that started offline, moved online, and are still going strong after decades.
    The On-Line Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences comes to mind. Neil Sloane started that 50 years ago.

    1. Re:Impressive but not unique by plopez · · Score: 1

      online?

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    2. Re:Impressive but not unique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You missed the point. IMDB didn't start online either.

    3. Re:Impressive but not unique by greenwow · · Score: 5, Informative

      It was online. It started on Usenet.

    4. Re:Impressive but not unique by greenwow · · Score: 0

      The moderators were correct in burying your post as a troll, because Usenet was most certainly not online.

      Stupid kids.

    5. Re: Impressive but not unique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People are really confused as to what the Internet is.

    6. Re:Impressive but not unique by illtud · · Score: 2

      It certainly was online for whatever value of 'online' you'd choose to use. Obviously it wasn't on the web in 1990, as that hadn't started yet, but the web is a subset of the Internet. I was an avid user of rec.arts.movies db. When I accessed the very few websites available in early 1994 as a student at Cardiff University, the 'Cardiff Internet Movie Database' was there. I borrowed a copy of 'Clockwork Orange' on VHS (then still banned in the UK) via CIMB. Even then I was impressed that this obviously International resource was served out of the machine room downstairs.

    7. Re:Impressive but not unique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not what I get from TFA. It seems to have consisted of a database that migrated online through a Usenet project.

    8. Re:Impressive but not unique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What do you think usenet is? It's one of the very first online services.

    9. Re:Impressive but not unique by KGIII · · Score: 2

      Err... Define "online" for me, if you will... (I've only been "online" since 1985 or so, help me out.)

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    10. Re: Impressive but not unique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because a BBS can not be online or offline?

    11. Re: Impressive but not unique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So by your definition, e-mail is offline since it's not on the web. What have your tutors been smoking?

  3. Pure Internet Company? by great+throwdini · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not sure what the definition of 'pure Internet company' might be in this context, but IMDb has been owned outright by Amazon since the late '90s, so at best, it's a 'pure Internet subsidiary' ...

    1. Re:Pure Internet Company? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I remember when I first encountered IMDb. Downloaded it from aminet.
      It was fun playing around with a reasonably large dataset, picking out movies the same two actors had been on and such.
      The webpage, is much less fun, but it seems like you can still download the data from http://www.imdb.com/interfaces
      It claims to be a subset but doesn't specify what is missing.

    2. Re:Pure Internet Company? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > It claims to be a subset but doesn't specify what is missing.

      The ads and Web 2.0 bullshit?

      Seriously, fuck IMDB. They did exactly what Gracenote did, aggregated a huge pile of factual information provided FOR FREE by volunteers (i.e. you and me) and then sold it to the highest bidder.

      Fuck Jeff Bezos too, exploiting and mistreating low-wage warehouse workers to wring a little extra profit from your wallet.

    3. Re:Pure Internet Company? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      exactly. congratulations on being giant assholes. somehow managing to steal from the community
      and the sell it back to them piecemeal.

    4. Re: Pure Internet Company? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup. That's pretty much all I remember about imdb. They built a database on the contributions of enthusiasts and volunteers, then they sold out. Fuck 'em, indeed.

    5. Re: Pure Internet Company? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did the contributors grant them license to do that or does the current IMDb use data that is copyrighted by a wide range of people with different interests?

    6. Re:Pure Internet Company? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My own take on IMDB is that it's the internet poster-child for "commercial exploitation of user generated content". It's an identical model to Slashdot, though I bet Amazon makes a shit load more money from IMDB than Dice do from here.

      I think the main problem is the sense of scale (volume of visitors) is lost on most people. That, and determining how much money a website makes is pretty difficult for experts, and impossible for a regular web user to do.

      The reason the deceit is so strong, is that it's a similar experience to giving money to a homeless person on the street. Most people "feel good" about this, yet if they discovered later that the guy actually lived in a nice house and simply went out on the street to make money, they would be upset and pissed off.

      Same with IMDB and other websites based on user driven content. When people go there and contribute, they think they're doing something good and helping other visitors like them. They think they're being "nice" and to some extent they are, so many would claim that it's a win-win for contributors. Yet if they later discover that the website generated $X millions for it's owners, then I think (and rightly so) most contributors would be pissed. Why do we tolerate these parasites?

      It's exploitation and its dishonest, which is why community sites really need to be owned and run by their contributors. Compared to 20 years ago a successful website (millions of visitors a day) can be now run on easily accessible hardware. Hosting costs simply aren't that high any more. I am mentioning this because a common phrase thrown around online is "hosting isn't free" and "we need them [the owners] to run the site". This "woe is us" mentality in support of the site owners is just a corporate pity smokescreen to play down the value of the revenue generated by the site. Community hosting does not need to be expensive, and does not need the guaranteed up-time of the commerical interests.

      In closing, I'm simply advising you to think carefully about where and how you contribute online. Your efforts (my own post here included) will not be rewarded, while at the same time the website owner is making actual cold hard cash. All other "rewards" such as "reputation", "karma", and so on, are just ego stroking distractions and ultimately pointless. As for most experiences in life, to ignore the ego is to be truly free.

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    7. Re:Pure Internet Company? by nogginthenog · · Score: 1

      >I remember when I first encountered IMDb. Downloaded it from aminet
      Me too. Seems they stopped updating the AmigaGuide version in 2005. Slackers.

    8. Re: Pure Internet Company? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      Most of the data is just facts. They aren't copyrightable. Database rights might apply to the aggregation, but they're most likely owned by the aggregator (IMDB).

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  4. humble.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is a pure, raw, unfiltered, unadulterated internet company. Its budget was born in the red and was a black hole for VC funds. Nobody knows what it did, does, or is supposed to do. Its mission statement - you just read it! I think it's just a landing page....

    Wait, Humble Bundle? Oh, well, that's different then! ... ...

    Never mind!

  5. Happy birthday by evilviper · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Happy birthday IMDB! You've done more than any other site on the internet to convince me of the necessity of ad-blocking! Those HUGE banners above everything else, especially when they are the last thing to load and make the page move while I'm trying to click on the search bar but instead get taken elsewhere. The nice blurring of the line between just listing what's new, and giving huge extra amounts of intrusive space to movies that are paying you for clicks... And let's not even get started on locking-up content behind a paid service that was previously freely available (and still available on other sites). Or the Yahoo/Amazon-esque cramming more crap into every page, or spreading the content across dozens more pages, so that it takes 4 extra clicks to look-up the basic info nearly everybody visiting your site is looking for...

    No other site makes me curse for needing to use it like you do, IMDB. So happy birthday...

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    1. Re:Happy birthday by justthinkit · · Score: 4, Informative

      Pretty good rant, but one clarif -- you can make the "main details" page much bigger, by default, so that you don't have to click anything to find out who all was in and made the movie. Just a preference setting away, and it sticks like cookie dough.

      As to ads, I really had no idea IMDB had ads...

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    2. Re:Happy birthday by evilviper · · Score: 1

      I'm allergic to cookies...

      Now, if it was just a GET option I could append onto the URL, I'd be interested.

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    3. Re:Happy birthday by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The content itself is an ad for the movie industry and the products. IMDB serves multiple roles in the still relevant attention, interest, desire, action model. Too bad those marketers from the pre-Internet times still pretend it's all about exposure.

    4. Re:Happy birthday by jdavidb · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't know - I have been using adblock since before that was an issue on imdb. I had no idea they had an ad problem at all.

  6. Is it just the website? by Snotnose · · Score: 2

    I seem to remember IMDb started on Usenet in the 80s.

    1. Re:Is it just the website? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thus the phrase "Pre-Web" right there in the summary. TFA (which I realize is too much of a bother for most Slashdotters to read) mentions that it was started by a query someone posted on USENET. It was in 1990, though, not the '80s.

    2. Re:Is it just the website? by Cederic · · Score: 1

      I'll admit, I started using imdb after it was a website.

      Cricinfo on the other hand.. That was multi protocol before it was a website, albeit being younger than imdb.

      Both grew from crowdsourcing long before the term was invented and both continue to be a core part of my online life.

  7. Didn't realize IMDB was that old by Xian97 · · Score: 1

    I didn't realize IMDB was that old. I remember getting a CD of Microsoft Cinemania in 1994, which was the best reference that I knew of for movies at the time. I think they came out with a new one yearly, but Internet databases such as IMDB could be updated easier and more frequently so they stopped publishing Cinemania.

  8. Thank you moderators... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    for proving that you're spoiled children that know nothing about the Internet. Usenet is most certainly online. Marking this guy as a troll is ridiculous.

    1. Re:Thank you moderators... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reminds me of the people at work who argue with me that our records system is on the internet because they use it in a web browser... no its not on the internet its 100% local.

  9. TPB by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    The most useful movie reviews look something like this:

    V: 9
    A: 9
    M: 8

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    1. Re:TPB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those reviews aren't useful, because lots of people give high audio and video scores to rips that are junk really quality-wise.

  10. IMDB ratings are no source of recommendation ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... because the reviews and user ratings are very obviously being spammed by marketing firms. 10 years ago you could almost trust an IMDB rating, today every second movie that comes out immediately pops up into the top 250 with raving reviews.

  11. More Disenchanted, still use it by bobstreo · · Score: 1

    I've been using IMDB forever. I still use it several times a day. I do have some nits to pick though:

    I have started to notice lately, a lot of images for actors are missing.

    I think I would like it if the image for the actor in the movie link was one from the movie, not one 40 years later. Much of the time
    there are images in the photos (if there are any) of the actor in the movie I'm looking at.

    Lastly, there seems to be some real issues with most foreign (non-Hollywood) movies.

    Frequently there is no detailed plot summary, rating, and actors links seem to be missing.

    Looking movie names up in their original language sometimes doesn't work at all.

      That's my whine, happy birthday IMDB.

    1. Re:More Disenchanted, still use it by Garybaldy · · Score: 1

      I can't speak for the A-list actors. Just for everyone else listed on IMDB. All of those pictures are uploaded by the person listed or an agent of that person. I have a profile as a lowly Grip. You can't add a picture unless you are an IMDB pro paid user. At least not that i have found yet.

      http://www.imdb.com/name/nm689...

    2. Re:More Disenchanted, still use it by bobstreo · · Score: 2

      I can't speak for the A-list actors. Just for everyone else listed on IMDB. All of those pictures are uploaded by the person listed or an agent of that person. I have a profile as a lowly Grip. You can't add a picture unless you are an IMDB pro paid user. At least not that i have found yet.

      http://www.imdb.com/name/nm689...

      So grips don't have agents? (Just kidding)

      I thought it would be something like that, agents need their booty. A-listers can probably afford it. and you wouldn't want to get into
      legal trouble by just pasting any old picture in there.

      I do dislike the watermarked images though.

  12. Wikipedia? by Crowd+Computing · · Score: 1

    Wikipedia is the first thing that came to my mind when thinking of a non-exploitative alternative to IMDB. Unfortunately, Wikipedia has "notability" guidelines that are often poorly implemented. An article about an obscure indie movie has better chances of not getting deleted in IMDB.

  13. Not the only pure internet company of that age... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe the most famous company, but my company has been around as long as the internet, so arguably it may even be older by a month or two. Bold statements don't always make them true.

  14. HTTPS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    25 years, and still no support for HTTPS (sure the home page shows, but any search gives an error). "Soon" must mean another 25 years.

  15. Ratings have changed by purpledinoz · · Score: 1

    I use IMDB mostly to pick out movies to watch based on user ratings. But I've noticed that in the past 10 years, there's been a divergence in IMDB ratings and my ratings. Anyone else notice this? Some movies rated 8 are total crap. 10 years ago, every movie rated 8 or above was guaranteed to be a great movie. Maybe my tastes have changed, but i feel the voters have changed. My theory is that IMDB is more popular, and now the people who vote on it are just the average person, not computer nerds like me.

  16. But the comments sections... by LaurenCates · · Score: 1

    ...have barely advanced beyond the age of three.

    Although I am willing to allow 25-year-old monkeys flinging poo as an alternative.

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    1. Re:But the comments sections... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been using it for a while and I noticed the comments really going to shit when Breaking Bad became popular. Maybe it was because previously most things I would look at were movies that didn't attract as many commenters.

      I do remember they used to delete obvious trolls - and people who linked to pirated copies. I think it just got too overwhelming to police and about a year ago I noticed my account had been disabled because now they want a credit card number (are they high?) or phone number (Do they really want a fake number?) to post comments.

      It didn't get rid of bad commenters completely but it did lose a lot of serious commenters like me.

  17. And there are those of us still miffed by mccalli · · Score: 1

    When it was at Cardiff University, I helped out for free as did many other people around the internet at the time. It was then taken commercial without any notice or recompense, with really quite sketchy and dubious claims of ownership, and it was quite a controversy at the time. I have still not forgotten it, and a lesson was learned that day.

  18. Clip from 1995 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's a clip about the IMDb when it was hosted at Cardiff Uni, which gives you an idea of how it looked like at the time. It's from a BBC Wales programme that was explaining this new-fangled World Wide Web thing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZiGaOD9l7g

  19. See ya by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lately it has been blocking me with a sign up for IMDb Pro. I guess its usefulness is ending. Happy Birthday!

  20. imdb wanted to be slashdot by sad_ · · Score: 1

    must be getting old.
    i remember a post on /. (long ago) where the imdb founder said in an interview that he would love to have a site like slashdot. not so sure that he still feels this way now though.

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